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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    Lets get a thread going like the Fuel EX has. The stache should be getting in the hands of the riders here anytime. Lets see them....list the upgrades, tips, and ride reports.
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    Funny thing I was at my LBS the other day and asked if they would be getting any in. I got a quick NO. I can believe the LBS seems to only believe in XC bikes costing less than $1k. I will have to wait for the demo at Atlanta in Feb.
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    Here's my Stache 8. I love it! For the price it's spec'd great. The rear wheel is prettty heavy so I will upgrade down the line. Mine weighs 26.5 pounds with pedals in a 19.5 inch. really stiff rear end and stays. The routing for the internal reverb dropper is slick though I haven't installed it yet. I would have loved a fit damped fork but for the price the evolution is ok. Handling is typical Trek 29er which is the best out there! The G2 geometry is superior to other 29ers I have ridden or currently own. Seems like it'll last forever. this one's a keeper.
    Dealers that didn't pre order these won't get them any time soon. my shop has 15, 17 and 19 in stock in the Stache 8 and Stache 7.

    One more.
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    Here's a few more close up's of some frame detail. Nice work on this one. Kudos Trek.



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    Looks great! Thanks for the close up pics and how much it weighs. What is the little "on" switch on the rear derailer? I want to demo this bike in the worst way,...maybe replace my EX8 for stache 8.
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    A little different than what a stock spec would be.

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    Ride report:

    I don't have pics because I only demo'd the bike, but wow.

    I had to go out of my way to write a review.

    About me: my first really good mountain bike was a gary fisher tassajara hardtail with 140mm fork and full xtr. So I am smitten with a more burly type of hardtail. Also, I really like trek in general. The bikes literally feel like they are alive. They're so responsive. Anywho, I have owned and tested a fair amount of 29rs. Other than a rigid ss sir9 (which is a very different type of ride), I didn't like any of them a whole lot. I saw the potential, but they always had something I didn't like. None were quite there yet. Too heavy, to slow in the corners, doesn't like catching air, doesn't like being flicked etc....

    I'm not aware of, are atleast haven't tested 29 hardtail that wasn't a small travel/carbon race machine.
    So when I saw the stache in the works I was really excited. If anyone could nail a trail 29 hardtail, I was sure trek could.

    And wow, they did not disappoint.

    The bike: It was amazing. It was set up with xt brakes and slx shifters. My favorite. It had the 130mm fox fork (forget which one) so you can tackle more gnar without sacrificing a whole lot. But you all know that. The details were amazing. The paint was just a clear coat (with green highlights) so you could see where they had buffed the metal underneath. It was a work of art. Even down to the green raceface cranks. Beautiful.

    The ride: Amazing, of course. The first thing I noticed was the cornering ability. It only had 2.2 tires (didn't catch what they were) but it held a sharp corner with abandon. It was just begging to be turned and twisted and played with. As soon as you tilted it, it was like a dog let off the leash. The bike literally felt happy (or maybe that was just me). It felt more confident in a sharp turn than any 2.4 gnarly tire that I've ever tried. Maybe it was the geometry. It was alive in the corners. I've never felt anything like it. I never knew I had been missing so much in the corners.

    One thing I've never liked about 29rs is how they like to stay on the ground. I can't bunny hop them. Not the stache. I got more air on it that even the lightest 26 wheeled bike. Amazing.

    Maybe it was because my legs were dead, but it felt kind of slow in a straight line. Not sure if that was me, the gear ratio i was in, or the bike. It was certainly light enough though so that shouldn't have been the reason.

    I was too tired to climb, so I wasn't able to take it down or up a hill, but I talked to my buddy and he said it felt "like butter" downhill, and hammered uphill. I believe it.

    In the end, trek made a 29r that doesn't have the traditional 29 problems: sluggish, sits on the ground, weird in the corners. It not only got rid of the problems, but it blew past what you would expect. It was amazing to ride. Light, cornered like crazy, was really fun to flick around, and put a smile on my face Sure, you could tell it was a 29r, but it didn't have any problems at all. I would say it's the most fun 29r ever made, or atleast that I've tried.

    Dead on. I'll ride trek till the day I die. And of course, you should too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    What is the little "on" switch on the rear derailer?
    It increases the tension on the chain vs. a standard mech (supposedly). According to the blurb I saw on a retailer site, it's designed to stay in the "on" position in most cases. If you would like to reduce the tension on the chain (such as when you're removing a wheel), flick it "off".

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    they look more agressive than the average trek XC bike...is it just me?
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    They are, and that's the point. Slacker headtube, shorter top tube, not by much though. Also, beefed up frame with iscg 05 mounts and 12mm rear axle and 120mm of front travel

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    Got my Stache a week earlier than expected. Pretty psched. First bike I have ridden in a while that I instantly felt at home on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroS View Post
    Got my Stache a week earlier than expected.
    How long ago did you stop shaving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    How long ago did you stop shaving?
    Ordered fist week of October. Due on the 8th of November got on the 5th.

    I shave as the Stache is gray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Lets get a thread going like the Fuel EX has. The stache should be getting in the hands of the riders here anytime. Lets see them....list the upgrades, tips, and ride reports.
    First shake down ride yesterday on some pretty easy trails. I rode this bike twice at Trek World in August and couldn't get enough of it. It was a very tough wait. Our trails in FL are super tight and twisty with almost no straight lines. The Stache handles very quickly in the tight stuff and just eats up bumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by verdugomountainlocal View Post
    Here's my Stache 8. I love it! For the price it's spec'd great. The rear wheel is prettty heavy so I will upgrade down the line. Mine weighs 26.5 pounds with pedals in a 19.5 inch. really stiff rear end and stays. The routing for the internal reverb dropper is slick though I haven't installed it yet. I would have loved a fit damped fork but for the price the evolution is ok. Handling is typical Trek 29er which is the best out there! The G2 geometry is superior to other 29ers I have ridden or currently own. Seems like it'll last forever. this one's a keeper.
    Dealers that didn't pre order these won't get them any time soon. my shop has 15, 17 and 19 in stock in the Stache 8 and Stache 7.

    One more.
    If you want a FIT or other Fox shock upgrade you can send off the fork to Fox and have it done. They used to have the prices listed. I think it is around $150

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    Mine is supposed to be in next week! One thing I haven't been able to find is the handlebar width. Does anyone know what is stock? I'm hoping that they realize that 580mm isn't really considered "trail" anymore...

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    Not sure, i'll bet it's either 680 or 720. Both common sizes for bondager bars.

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    It will be a wide bar. Probably the 720
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    Mine is supposed to be in next week! One thing I haven't been able to find is the handlebar width. Does anyone know what is stock? I'm hoping that they realize that 580mm isn't really considered "trail" anymore...
    Just measured my 17.5 Statche bar for ya. Its 734mm end of grip straight across to opposite grip end.

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    Called a few local shops and found a dealer with a stache 8 instock. Too bad it is not in my size. Anyway the dealer is only 15 min from a somewhat local riding spot. I may go later in the week. Currently I am wrestling with the idea of a Cannondale F29-2, Stump jumper FSR comp 29, or the Stache 8.

    Just to toss this ou there I got a deal on a green endura jersey with black and gun metal colored endura shorts this week. They would be a perfect match to the Stache 8.
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    On the fox CTD system. Does the climb lock out or just stiffen the fork?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroS View Post
    Just measured my 17.5 Statche bar for ya. Its 734mm end of grip straight across to opposite grip end.
    THANK YOU! That's great news, I can't see wanting to go wider than that right now. It's nice that Trek realizes that to market it as a "trail" bike that wide bars are in order...

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    Mine is currently setting at the lbs still in the box. Pretty excited to see how the bike feels under me. Really enjoy the pics guys!

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    I am doing a frame build, and so far just have a Thomson Stem and Post on it. Going to do it nice with DT hubs, Stans, Etc.

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    Here`s my new ride. goes good with the Fish!
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    looks great! I talked to the lbs and the stache is not expected to be available until Feb. Going to check one out today at a bike shop close to a riding area.
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    Got to do a parking lot ride on a stache yesterday. It would have went better if it was a 17.5" and not a 21". Great bike. This looks to be a burly efficient bike. I am going to hold off until I can do a proper demo at the Atlanta demo in late Feb. Could this be a replacement to my 2011 Fuel EX8? I am not itching to rid my fuel but really interested in the 29er and its advantages. My LBS says I will be pleasently surprized how smooth the Stache rides being a HT. The XR-3 tires seem to be pretty good. Seem close to the XR-4?

    Any rumor if 2014 Trek will offer a carbon version?
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    stache 7

    pics on trek website dont do this bike justice, the finish is transparent so you see the polished frame just like the stache 8...great bikes and the 7,s price was 1499 not bad at all (they didnt have an 8 in stock yet)
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    That's a good looking bike. I'd like to see more pics that one is rather crappy lol

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    Had mine out today. Awesome bike it rails. It's so easy to get in the air. Super fast this fork is great shifting is awesome. Breaks are great. I love the shimano stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Alberto_ View Post
    That's a good looking bike. I'd like to see more pics that one is rather crappy lol
    yea, that pic not the best..I didnt have my phone and figured the person I was with was taking a few pics, but he didnt Looks so much better than their mamba,cobia,xcal paint schemes of this year..sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by verdugomountainlocal View Post
    Here's my Stache 8. I love it! For the price it's spec'd great. The rear wheel is prettty heavy so I will upgrade down the line. Mine weighs 26.5 pounds with pedals in a 19.5 inch. really stiff rear end and stays.
    If I may ask...on your 19.5" Stache 8, are the rotors both 180mm front and rear, or is the rear a smaller 160mm? Also, are they centrelock or 6 bolt? I'd like to have the proper set of XT ice-techs on hand for when mine arrives

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    I dont think it is centerloc because of the bontrager hubs. I dont remember the slx brakes (calipers)being ice tech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    I dont think it is centerloc because of the bontrager hubs. I dont remember the slx brakes (calipers)being ice tech.
    I've got a stock 2013 Superfly AL Elite and the rotors are centreloc (Bontrager hubs). I was thinking the Stache 8 would have them also instead of the 6 bolt style.

    I've seen others using SLX brakes with XT/Saint Ice Tech rotors with success, so thought I'd give that a try to see if there is much of an improvement.

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    I hope the stache has centerloc.....i just figured not having shimano hubs it would not. If so that is a plus.

    As far as the brakes go I dont see why you cant use a ice tech rotor without ice tech calipers. I dont know if there is much to gain with just the ice tech rotors and not having the ice tech calipers. Let us know if you notice a difference. Does shimano offer a different ice tech brake pads?
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    Ice tech brake pads have cooling fins on them. The caliper for say SLX or XT, is going to be same whether or not it came with finned pads.

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    I thought the calipers had cooling fins but after looking closer to a pic it is just the brake pads
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    Trek Stache in a 23". Did a full custom build with XTR and Industry Nine's, Reverb etc. Just waiting on the chain guide to run it 1x10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedal4Fun View Post
    Trek Stache in a 23". Did a full custom build with XTR and Industry Nine's, Reverb etc. Just waiting on the chain guide to run it 1x10.
    that is one sharp bike, let us know how it rides . Like to here the ride reviews.
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    Sweettt.....

    I am waiting to get a new tapered fork (harder to get the G2 one than I thought) without going to FOX themselves (and getting the new GOLD stanshion fork..)

    But seeing that I think I now want to go All-Out on this build (X-O) 2x10 setup and then I would have to get the Arch EX wheels you have!! Figured I am having my best year ever (work/salary wise) so why not just do it now (with new frame!!!)----here is my build now --it will look 'Totally different' this Spring riding these Pa. Trails!!!!

    --But I just LOVE this bike (Geometry wise)---it feels like a custome build to me!!
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    Here's mine.


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    Does the stache 8 have center lock disc rotors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Does the stache 8 have center lock disc rotors?
    No centerlock. 6 Bolt on Bontrager branded hubs.

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    In it's current form.
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    Super stoked, mine made it to the shop! Hopefully I'll be riding it soon! Pics aren't great but it's all I could grab yesterday. I threw it on the scale at the shop and in bone stock form the 21" was 26lb 14oz. Planning to go tubeless and put some pedals on it so it'll probably end up around the same weight. Handle bars are 720mm and it looks as if you could run a 2.4 on there if you wanted. Even with the 2.3 you can see why the seat post is shaped the way it is, there would be no clearance otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 247 View Post
    Sweettt.....

    I am waiting to get a new tapered fork (harder to get the G2 one than I thought) without going to FOX themselves (and getting the new GOLD stanshion fork..)

    But seeing that I think I now want to go All-Out on this build (X-O) 2x10 setup and then I would have to get the Arch EX wheels you have!! Figured I am having my best year ever (work/salary wise) so why not just do it now (with new frame!!!)----here is my build now --it will look 'Totally different' this Spring riding these Pa. Trails!!!!

    --But I just LOVE this bike (Geometry wise)---it feels like a custome build to me!!
    You can send your fork to FOX and have them do those upgrades. The gold is a Kashimra coating and you can get FIT converted also.
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    My local Trek Concept Store said they weren't stocking them until April.

    I'm actually not interested in the bike but if it was a 650B, I'd buy it right now.

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    First Ride!

    I got to bring it home yesterday! I didn't have a cent to buy a new bike but the LBS needed a new website (cycleandfitness.net) so in exchange for my time in making them a new user manageable site they ordered me a Stache! I think he felt bad that I was still on my 1999 Trek 6000 too...
    I feel like a kid in a candy store!

    Took my first ride up and down the street to start bedding in the brakes. It was my first time without clips or clipless in 15 years, I didn't realize how much I pull on the upstroke. Every time I started to mash hard I was picking my feet up off the pedal... But, I'm stoked I think it's going to be a great ride, I may get a shorter stem on order, around 70mm or so. I'd like a little more leverage when pulling on the bars and I feel pretty stretched out on it with the wider bars. Anyways... without further adieu, here's the bike:

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    Good job!

    sounds like you have a great LBS that took care of ya for your work, Its a pretty rad bike, I really want to test ride one of these. Have yourself a blast on that green beast . Congrats !!
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    Hello everyone, I'm proud to say I'm part of the Stache crew. I ordered this two weeks ago and picked it up last weekend. I originally purchased a 2012 Ex8 but it had a few problems so I decided to get store credit and wait for the Stache. I was also trying to wait for some reviews but I couldn't hold out. When I ordered it a few weeks ago my lbs had a 10% off sale on all 2013 bikes and I received a 100.00 trek gift card so I'm loving my shop right now. It's 25 miles from me but they have a loyal customer now. Sorry for the side way pics I could figure how to turn them after posting, they view proper on my computer.
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    Nice, welcome to the fold! I've been enjoying mine, got a couple rides in, it's miles ahead of my last bike.

    23"!!! How big a boy are ya!? I see the o-ring on the left fork, I suppose that came on it? Mine didn't have one.

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    Thanks, I cant wait for the weather to break here in Jersey to get some rides in. I'm 6 4" and did not like the feel of the 21.5 ex8, it felt like I was on top of the handle bars. This bike is gorgeous, the only thing I don't like about it is the grips.

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    Never noticed the frame size sticker say 21.5" / virtual 23". Is that a 29er thing?
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    No, virtual/actual is just a Trek thing. The seattube actually measures 21.5", but the toptube length makes it fit like a 23. My 19" Stache actually has a an 18" seattube.
    Worked at Trek/Fisher dealer 2008-2013. Only a little biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob9ers View Post
    Hello everyone, I'm proud to say I'm part of the Stache crew. I ordered this two weeks ago and picked it up last weekend. I originally purchased a 2012 Ex8 but it had a few problems so I decided to get store credit and wait for the Stache. I was also trying to wait for some reviews but I couldn't hold out. When I ordered it a few weeks ago my lbs had a 10% off sale on all 2013 bikes and I received a 100.00 trek gift card so I'm loving my shop right now. It's 25 miles from me but they have a loyal customer now. Sorry for the side way pics I could figure how to turn them after posting, they view proper on my computer.
    How do you like the stashe vs the fuel? The stache is on my radar along with a superfly or superfly 100
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    Do you think the superfly HT will be a noticably faster/more efficient than the stashe?

    Anyone notice on the trek website the stache on the main page has a rock shox fork and different handlebars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Anyone notice on the trek website the stache on the main page has a rock shox fork and different handlebars?
    Wow, that's interesting, looks like the 2012 Reba. Must have been a contender during development...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    Wow, that's interesting, looks like the 2012 Reba. Must have been a contender during development...
    The Stache used in most of the Trek promos I've seen is being ridden by Ross Schnell, who is sponsored by the SRAM/Rockshox/Truvativ group. Therefore, his rides are usually customised with their components instead of the stock bits.

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    Who is Ross? I have heard of him but dont know what he is known for.
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    Used stashe 8 on ebay 19"

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    Anyone running the stache single speed? If so what did you find worked best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavezFever View Post
    Anyone running the stache single speed? If so what did you find worked best?
    I've been curious whether you could use an ISCG guide as some sort of chain tensioner, to run it SS.

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    I have a e13 TRS+ dual mine. Works great. Had an MRP first and it was junk.....

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    I built this thing with stuff laying around in my garage.. I proceeded to destroy the rear 29er wheel in two rides at a very rocky/technical park near my house (I attribute this to the front end writing checks that the rear end can't cash and certainly not my riding style ) then, not wanting to put a lot money into this bike build, pulled a 26er wheel out of my laying around garage inventory, slapped it on and I have to say, I've been having a lot of fun on the new "69er Stache". I wish I could tuck the rear wheel in a little though. Would make my manuals a lot easier...

    This a very confused bike with two different wheel sizes, trek with specialized seat post/seat and the fact that I probably should be running a chain guide. With the type II sram der the chain stays on... for the most part.
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    so how do people like the tires that come on this bike.. the bontrager 29-3 experts
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    This bike is pretty sweet. I am digging the green color they threw on this years stache and rumblefish as we are in MSU country.
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    Pink bike stache 8 review

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    Holy high handlebars, batman!

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    Good job!

    I just completed the tubeless conversion and have to say it was EASY! Using stock Bontrager Duster rims and 29-3 tires. To do the conversion I used the Bontrager Rhythm Symmetrical strips (P/N 406892) and Bonty presta valves with 2oz Stans in each tire. With the first tire I didn't even need the compressor; I just used my floor pump and aired it up. Second one I needed the initial volume of the compressor to seat the tire but it was completely uneventful. Even with only 15psi in the tires I don't see how I could burp one of these, they are on there solid. Highly recommended for anyone that hasn't gone tubeless before and is scared to, this was my first try at tubeless and I won't go back. (Especially after having got a thorn puncture on my first ride on the Stache w/ tubes... )

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    fox 34 140 on the stache 8

    rode the bike at a trek demo yesterday at amelia park in Hialeah FL. My question is whether anybody has tried one of the fox 34 front forks. My thought is that this would make it super stiff and slightly more relaxed front end. Anybody try this yet?

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    Just ordered all my parts up for the Stache frame I have.

    XX1 grouppo
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    Fox 32 CTD 120mm
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    So excited for this build. I'll post pics when it's done.

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    I think you're going to be pretty happy with that build welbeast! I'm digging mine!

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    Broke my Stache...

    After about 100 miles my Fox CTD fork damper failed. The first 100 miles when in Climb mode the fork nearly locked out but would sag some from hard hits due to the blow-off valve (what I understand to be normal operation). Two weeks ago that changed and Climb mode felt pretty much like Trail, I had full suspension travel while in Climb. Looking around I found this thread, http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspen...ue-806075.html which helped me to realize that I wasn't imagining things. I used Fox's service request form on their site and in four business days had my fork back in my hands with a replaced damper, completely free of cost! (That's what I call service!) I quickly tested out the fork before putting it on the bike and unfortunately Climb mode didn't work on that damper either... I then wrote Ed at Fox again and he offered to replace the damper again but this time with a Performance FIT cartridge to give me peace of mind and is sending the new removed damper as a spare! I should have the fork back in my hands by Monday.

    I share this for two reasons. One, it seems that these forks, especially the early models, are prone to damper failure so keep your eye out for it. Second, Fox has amazing customer support and I have been very pleased with the support they have given me and I wanted to share my experience with them.

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    I like fox....but their build qualities have been in the tanks lately. Source, shop rat.

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    So what do we think guys, could the Stache 8 hold a BMF Clydesdale (6'5" 350#)? I've given up on the Fuel EX 8/Remedy 8 for now, since I'm told a HT is the way to go til I shed some weight.

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    According to Trek no. Weight limit is 300lbs, same with the remedy and fuel.

    If you have the money you could try. You'll probably need a beefier set of wheels though at the very least. Kona used to make a bike called the Clydesdale that was designed for heavier riders. Not sure if they still do or if there is a weight limit.

    As far as a 29er hard tail goes I would take a look at Misfit Pscycles(spelling?). They make some steel frames that use really beefy tubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welbeast View Post
    According to Trek no. Weight limit is 300lbs, same with the remedy and fuel.

    If you have the money you could try. You'll probably need a beefier set of wheels though at the very least. Kona used to make a bike called the Clydesdale that was designed for heavier riders. Not sure if they still do or if there is a weight limit.

    As far as a 29er hard tail goes I would take a look at Misfit Pscycles(spelling?). They make some steel frames that use really beefy tubing.
    Damn alright, that just leaves the SC Chameleon and the Stumpy Evo 29... Leaning more towards the SC on this one.

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    Are the head tube lengths coming in at the claimed 118mm on 21 and 23in sizes?

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    I just measured my 21" and it's pretty close, 118.8mm. I think the actual head tube is pretty much right at 118mm but the clear coat add a skosh...

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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    Hey guys... n00b here.

    I've been eyeing a Stache 7 at my LBS. Seems like everyone is pretty happy with theirs in this thread. While I know the components aren't top notch on the 7, they should be enough to get me started on some single track, right?

    This particular build comes with a Recon Silver fork, 2x10 Shimano SLX drivetrain, Elixir 1 brakes, and Bontrager wheels and tires (like most Treks do). I really like the idea of a 2x10 for the terrain I'll be riding (unless someone can convince me of going 1x9 or 10. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    Hey guys... n00b here.

    I've been eyeing a Stache 7 at my LBS. Seems like everyone is pretty happy with theirs in this thread. While I know the components aren't top notch on the 7, they should be enough to get me started on some single track, right?

    This particular build comes with a Recon Silver fork, 2x10 Shimano SLX drivetrain, Elixir 1 brakes, and Bontrager wheels and tires (like most Treks do). I really like the idea of a 2x10 for the terrain I'll be riding (unless someone can convince me of going 1x9 or 10. Thoughts?
    The SLX gear has been good to me on my EX8. The build overall is plenty good to get you on the trail and then some. The only weak thing I notice is the brakes. They still will be just fine as you build skill. But save up for some SLX or XT brakes down the road.
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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    That's what I have heard in general about the Elixir 1's. I can't imagine it being a huge deal to replace them down the road. I was most concerned with the fork (is the silver no-good compared to the gold) and the Bontager stuff.

    Thanks for your help and input!

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    The only real differences that matter to me are the fork, brakes and crank. The crank is probably not going to be perceivable except to the most experienced riders, the brakes are quite a bit different. SLX are great brakes, Elixers are said to be OK if set up well but not quite the 1-finger ease of the SLX and it's been said that they require more maintenance. The last is the forks and this is the biggest difference. The Recon weighs about 1lb more that the Fox and only has lock-out rather than three settings of compression dampening (CTD). If you're not a weight weenie and are just looking for a SOLID bike to get started on the 7 is going to be great! If you decide to upgrade the fork and brakes down the road you'll be well over the $660 difference in price (The fork alone is that much). I'm guessing there's maybe 1.5lb difference in the two bikes.

    That's a lot of words just to say that you'll be VERY happy with the 7. I'd only get the 8 if you are planning to upgrade the fork in the future or are very concerned with weight.

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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    Thanks for providing the details. That helps a lot. I don't think I have enough of a knowledge base to know what I will upgrade yet. I just want something solid to start with. Since the 7 is the 'lower budget' version of the 8, I question the quality (kinda like a base model car vs. fully loaded).

    I like certain things (the 2x10, Shimano drivetrain) on the Stache a lot as well as the Trek name and rep that comes along with it. I'm also considering looking at a Kona Taro but the 1x9 gearing scares me a bit for climbing. Also considered a Specialized Carve Comp 29... same price point as the Stache 7, I think.

    Either way, thank you. Any other input you have on the bikes listed above (without going crazy off topic) would be appreciated.

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    You should be able to just buy calipers and levers if you upgrade brakes. Should be no need for rotors. Very easy upgrade. Probably cost you just over $200. The bontrager stuff will do you well. No issues with wheels and so on. The elixer 1 will be fine for awhile but you will want better later. You could have the dealer trade you up to SLX before you leave the shop. Maybe offer the shop retail on the bike but ask fo rSLX brakes (shop keeps the stock brakes) and swap you over to tubless.
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    I think the fork on the 7 will be fine for atleast a few years.
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    Ordered a Stache 7 19.5" last week and it arrived at the lbs on Friday. Looks great, unfortunately it came from the factory with a tweaked rear triangle/dropouts. When inserting the rear axle it missed the drive side dropout by almost 3/8"!! So off to warranty with it. Kinda bummed but at least there is a foot of snow on the ground so not a big rush.

    Just to chime in on the fork discussion...I went with the 7 because I actually prefer the RS fork (ease of service/manuals/parts etc.) And if the riding is that gnarly I take out the Tracer VP anyway. Only plan on swapping out the TK damper for MoCo damper ($50ish) and SLX brakes sometime this summer.

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    Mine don't line up perfect either. But not off that much.

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    Just got back from the southeast bike expo. Got to demo the stache on the trails there. It is really a nice package. The trails are actually where the 1996 olymipic mountain bike race was held. The hard tail was great on the first lap (probably 5-6 miles total) then I rode the rumblefish elite and then the superfly 100 al elite. Then finally I went out for one last lap on the stache. I like it alot but have reservations on the HT thing. But I should note the trail rides alot on the face of granite rock/hill. There is absolutly no give the that ground. Handleing was good. The first stache I rode was better than the second. The second bike had some creeking and the fox CDT did not seem to work. The other trails there were supposed to be pretty muddy I stayed away from those. There was a "feel" to the bike that I really liked. I was not loving it the second time out. At that point I was pretty tired so that took away from the experience. My local trails would be more forgiving that the granite rock. When I say rock it is not loose rock. It is a large face of a hill that is rock. THe 29-3 tires are great! The weight of the bike was great also. There were a couple dips in the trail probably a 4 foot swell and the stache felt the best jumping but of course it is not a FS bike. At this point for my trails I would either buy the Superfly 100 AL elite or the stache 8.

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    It seams that a fairly high percentage of the open bath CTD forks (like the one on the Stache8) fail almost immediately. The good news is; They seem to hold up after FOX repairs them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friz View Post
    Mine don't line up perfect either. But not off that much.
    Same here, I've got about 1/4 inch of play also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    Same here, I've got about 1/4 inch of play also.
    Yea mine was off enough that it took two people to put the rear wheel on... One to compress/twist the triangle and the other to put the axle through.

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    I would be very concerned about a mis-aligned rear dropout issue. If that occurs on mine when it gets in, I imagine that I'd have a hard time taking it home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friz View Post
    It seams that a fairly high percentage of the open bath CTD forks (like the one on the Stache8) fail almost immediately. The good news is; They seem to hold up after FOX repairs them.
    It seemed to be in the trail setting. I should have tried experimenting with the CTD on the other bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    It seemed to be in the trail setting. I should have tried experimenting with the CTD on the other bikes
    When to dampner goes. The switch does nothing and all the settings are mush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friz View Post
    When to dampner goes. The switch does nothing and all the settings are mush.
    Now that you mention it the fork was kind of like you discribed.
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    I got mine Stache 8 in January. Have not put to many miles on it.
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    Trek warrantied my Stache 7 frame for an 8...wish they would've traded brakes as well haha. Can't decide on the name though...torn between christening her either Magnum P.I. or The Bandit. Pictures this weekend after pick up.

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    Crappy photo but here is what I finished last week.

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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    Seems like most people in this thread have Stache 8's. Where are all of the Stache 7 users?

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    I intended to buy a Stache 7, but my dealer had an 8 in stock for close to the same $.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friz View Post
    I intended to buy a Stache 7, but my dealer had an 8 in stock for close to the same $.
    Guess that kind of makes the decision for you. The price difference around here is $500-600+.

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    Stache 8 in the house. Changes include a carbon post and bar, eggbeater pedals, RL cages and ergon GS1 grips. I have also put in Bontrager's TLR rim strips and set the wheels up tubeless. Look forward to breaking it on this weekend.

    Pics coming!

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    Crappy photo but here is what I finished last week.

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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    Zippen, what do you think of the new RXL wheels? What do they weigh?

    Anyone have any idea how heavy the stock Dusters are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhopton View Post
    Zippen, what do you think of the new RXL wheels? What do they weigh?

    Anyone have any idea how heavy the stock Dusters are?
    I am interested to find out too
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    Stache 8

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    Here's my build: Stock w/ Shimano Saints, 125mm stealth reverb w/ left hand remote, raceface atlas monster green handlebar. My buds are green w/ envy...

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    Originally put down cash on a Cannondale Trail 2,

    Now own a Treck Stache 7 instead Zero Comparison between the two

    Pick it up friday, that orange is hot and the bike... freaking awesome

    My Damn Spank Spikes in orange are on backorder

    Friday cannot come soon enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by jangles View Post
    Originally put down cash on a Cannondale Trail 2,

    Now own a Treck Stache 7 instead Zero Comparison between the two

    Pick it up friday, that orange is hot and the bike... freaking awesome

    My Damn Spank Spikes in orange are on backorder

    Friday cannot come soon enough
    Very nice!...you will dig its ride...super quiet, can shred on the DH and still climbs well...

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    First Bike In Over 15 years and wanted one I could own and not have to upgrade for sometime. Everything about this bike I love.

    Ill be riding cheap plastic pedals until my spanks arrive, Thats really the only upgrade I plan. Bike was alot of money! Picked up a seat bag today at the LBS to go with it. as I will need one of those!!

    I Have to learn to ride a mountain bike again!!

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    What shoes you pairing with those pedals....5-10s?

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    heck no some airwalks LOL, I cant justify spending that much on a shoe lol

    The bike and the spanks, helmet, cage bottle has drained me, I still have to buy a lock and some lube for the chain as well

    maybe down the line I can see it, but right now, I just want to ride with what I have

    There was a big $$ difference between the SL2 and the Stache

    So Im happy with everything I have got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhopton View Post
    Zippen, what do you think of the new RXL wheels? What do they weigh?

    Anyone have any idea how heavy the stock Dusters are?
    I haven't ridden the new ones yet as the trails here are unrideable right now. | neglected to weigh mine before putting on tires and such. Claimed weight is 1580 grams.

    My guess is the stock Duster wheels weigh at least 2000 grams.

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    Stache 7 19" will be arriving Thursday for me aswell.

    1st 29er ever for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam View Post
    Stache 7 19" will be arriving Thursday for me aswell.

    1st 29er ever for me

    Mine is also 19", you picking it up on thursday? what pedals you putting on it?

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    Mine is also 19", you picking it up on thursday? what pedals you putting on it?
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    Cool, just got the UPS tracking number in my email for My Orange Spank Spikes!! Still going with el cheapos on friday So i can ride it!! You picking yours up thursday?

    Weather has been crappy here in cleveland, hopefully friday is a brighht bright sun shiney day

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    Re: Lets see your Stache official thread

    Well the weather is finally starting to warm up here in Jersey, my Stache has been sitting in the living room waiting to go out to play since December. The good thing is I've had time to get all my safety items and for good prices, I even picked up some five tens for 40.00.

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    not to interupt thred, but how do you guys like how the stache rides, do you notice any diffence from the other trek hard tails
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    How's it handle the tech ST? Climb? Descend? Anyone riding a 15.5? I'm looking at the 8, how's the fork treating ya? Again, thanks.
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    Its a fun bike that has some great tech built in so the descents are stable. Its not as easy to get the front end up but the bike doesn't mind getting some air. It climbs great with no wondering by the front end. DirtRag said it had a neutral riding position and I'd say they're spot on. The fork has been solid so far. I did have the spring under the knob that controls the CTD mode slip out but it was easily fixed. I'm pretty satified so far as my commuter/ everyday local trails bike.

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    Cool, I appreciate the reply. I guess I have to get on one. How is the CTD feature on the shock? Do you use it or set it and forget it?
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    I've used the feature a lot if the conditions warrant it. you know...pavement...lock it out, general trail use on local trails...just keep in the trail mode, if I've got an extended descent..open it up. But...I'm not constantly changing it on the fly, my trails just don't warrant it because its mostly rolling singletrack...probably the thing I use the most is the reverb dropper post...more so than even the shifters, I highly recommend getting one even if it means getting the 7 vs. the 8 if money is a factor.

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    Cool, thanks again. One more question, could you describe what you mean by the front wheel is hard to get up? Do you mean unweighting it to get it up and over an object or bunny hopping. Again thanks!
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    I mean its harder to manual or wheelie drop...requires some extra body english to get the front wheel up

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    well my bike had its frame upgraded to a stache 8 frame due to a bent back frame.

    Picking it up tomorrow at 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by setransou View Post
    I mean its harder to manual or wheelie drop...requires some extra body english to get the front wheel up

    Again thanks. What size frame are you riding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by setransou View Post
    I mean its harder to manual or wheelie drop...requires some extra body english to get the front wheel up
    Because of those massively long chainstays.

    Try a proper short CS bike like a Honzo, Yelli, or N9, wheelie central!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by setransou View Post
    I mean its harder to manual or wheelie drop...requires some extra body english to get the front wheel up
    I noticed the same thing but there's a good chance it's because I'm coming from a 26" Trek 6000. I did put a 70mm stem on mine and it has helped quite a bit, especially making bunny-hopping a more rewarding experience.

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    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    Thats all im gonna say this bike is sooo badass!!

    Ordered all the stuff necessary today to convert the tires to tubeless. LBS will call me when it comes in to drop it off to do the conversion

    For some reason my bike came with the avid elixer 3 brakes even though it says it comes with the 1s..

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    Has anyone converted this to singlespeed? I am curious. It'll have to be tensioned or magic-geared but it seems like the bike would be fun in this form.


    This thread is a bit anti-climactic for a owner's photo thread since all the bikes look the same.

    Let's see a. Let's see your Trek Stache in action. Or in exciting destinations!!!

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    Any of you guys know if the easton havoc stem in 65mm will fit my stache and stock handlebars?

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    As long as it is for an 1 1/8 steer tube and 31.8 bar, you should be fine.

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    New to all of this but here is the specs for it..

    Model Havoc
    Material Easton CNC Aluminum
    Handlebar Clamp Size 31.8mm
    Steer Tube Clamp Diameter 1 1/8"
    Length (Size) 35mm, 50mm, 65mm
    Rise 0
    Stack Height 38mm
    Weight 224g (65mm

    will it work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jangles View Post
    New to all of this but here is the specs for it..

    Model Havoc
    Material Easton CNC Aluminum
    Handlebar Clamp Size 31.8mm
    Steer Tube Clamp Diameter 1 1/8"
    Length (Size) 35mm, 50mm, 65mm
    Rise 0
    Stack Height 38mm
    Weight 224g (65mm

    will it work?
    Yup.

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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    Went to my LBS today and they didn't have any Stache's in stock during their sale. WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    Went to my LBS today and they didn't have any Stache's in stock during their sale. WTF.
    The bikes are just starting to become available to dealers but its in high demand so having in stock ready for you to ride is not always possible. Talk to the owner/sales staff. Bet they can help if you're interested...but don't expect it to be on sale given its demand.

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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    Tent sale... EVERYTHING was on sale.

    Good to know that they're just starting to get stock. I'll have to keep an eye out.

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    My Stache 7 in 19"



    Have fitted tubeless rim strips and valves and XR3 TLR tyres with sealent and replaced the brakes with a set of Avid X0's in Black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    Has anyone converted this to singlespeed? I am curious. It'll have to be tensioned or magic-geared but it seems like the bike would be fun in this form.


    This thread is a bit anti-climactic for a owner's photo thread since all the bikes look the same.


    Let's see a. Let's see your Trek Stache in action. Or in exciting destinations!!!

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    I think I got there after the action, but this is where I found my Stache the other day. From the amount of empty beer cans and Pringles containers, I think it was luring fat bikes off the trail, getting them drunk and having it way with them.



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    Thanks friz, I placed the order for it In 65mm. Front just felt really long and stearing wide after riding it.. Thinking a shorter stem will help me out!

    sweet bike norcosam,, why the tire change?

    My orange spank spikes platforms will be delivered to me tomorrow!

    Im oficially done swapping for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by jangles View Post
    Thanks friz, I placed the order for it In 65mm. Front just felt really long and stearing wide after riding it.. Thinking a shorter stem will help me out!

    sweet bike norcosam,, why the tire change?

    My orange spank spikes platforms will be delivered to me tomorrow!

    Im oficially done swapping for now
    Replaced with the same tire just the Tubeless version.
    I also replaced the stem with a 70mm one.

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    Just got back from a lil sight seeing ride, felt great



    Beautiful day, but freakin cold

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam View Post
    Replaced with the same tire just the Tubeless version.
    I also replaced the stem with a 70mm one.

    Hey sam, what kind of difference did you feel/get changing to a shorter stem on the stache?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jangles View Post
    Hey sam, what kind of difference did you feel/get changing to a shorter stem on the stache?
    Never rode it with the 90mm one,but it felt odd.Was too stretched out for my liking,also I have a Nicolai AC 650b Pinion and this has a very similar top tube length and i was tring to keep the riding positions similar,Nicolai has a 615TT and a 75mm stem, Stache is running 620mm TT and a 70mm stem.

    Did 16 miles on it earlier,seems to ride very well,nice and lively,Front end lifts easily,Forks are now set and seem to work very well.Did some quite Technical and rocky terrain and it seems to handle it well.The Clutch SLX rear mech is amazing,no dropped chains and stealthely quite.

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    Is 90mm stock stem for all frame sizes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Is 90mm stock stem for all frame sizes?
    Looking on Trek Tech(i work in a bike shop) seems that the stem lenghts vary with size of frame ordered.

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    Thats what I always thought with stem lengths.
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    90mm came on my 19 frame

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    The 21" comes with a 100mm stem.

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    For those that have installed a Reverb Stealth on your Stache (I have seen a couple in pics on this thread), are there any tips you can offer to someone that will be doing that soon?

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    If any of you guys with a 19" frame want to swap the 100mm that your bike came with for a 90mm that came on my 17.5, let me know. Mine is 2 weeks old and I just can't find the sweet spot yet with the 90mm stem. I think 100 would be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhopton View Post
    If any of you guys with a 19" frame want to swap the 100mm that your bike came with for a 90mm that came on my 17.5, let me know. Mine is 2 weeks old and I just can't find the sweet spot yet with the 90mm stem. I think 100 would be perfect.
    19" come with 90mm.
    I swapped out the 90mm on mine for a 70mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhopton View Post
    If any of you guys with a 19" frame want to swap the 100mm that your bike came with for a 90mm that came on my 17.5, let me know. Mine is 2 weeks old and I just can't find the sweet spot yet with the 90mm stem. I think 100 would be perfect.
    I'll trade you straight across, I just took the stock stem off my 21".

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    My pedals have been delivered sitting outside

    Too bad Im stuck at the office working late

    Cant wait to see them in person and install them

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    just ordered mine today for 2295 , trading in my mamba for an aditional 420.00 off . Putting on my richie pro stem and bars from my mamba to make the #8 feel familiar...
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    youll love it, took mine on a slightly muddy basic trail ride yesterday and it performed awesome, the recon forks were great and the bike went through everything. Pavement and dirt.

    Look into going tubeless.

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    Tubeless is very easy.You need to order the trek/bontrager rim strips and valves.TLR tyres and and some sealent,mine went on with a track pump very easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam View Post
    Tubeless is very easy.You need to order the trek/bontrager rim strips and valves.TLR tyres and and some sealent,mine went on with a track pump very easily.
    The Tires on the stache are tubeless ready, I did not have to buy new tires.. Or maybe im missunderstanding

    I just ordered the rim strips/sealant/valves

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    Tyres on my Stache 7 were standard tyres not TLR or Team ones

    They were XR3 29x2.3

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    The stache 7 and 8 both come stock w/ 29-3 tires...not xr-3s. You can set up the 29-3s tubeless no problem. Like previous poster said...just rim strips/valve cores/ sealant and you're golden!

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    Quote Originally Posted by setransou View Post
    The stache 7 and 8 both come stock w/ 29-3 tires...not xr-3s. You can set up the 29-3s tubeless no problem. Like previous poster said...just rim strips/valve cores/ sealant and you're golden!
    29-3's that are not TLR they are the basic cheap ones not the expensive Team versions that are tubeless ready.

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    art No. MSRP* Bead FT/RR/PR Sidewall/Tread Size TPI Type Weight
    428465 74.99 Aramid Dual Black / Black 29 x 2.30 (TLR) 120 Clincher 705g

    428466 54.99 Aramid Dual Black / Black 29 x 2.30 60 Clincher 675g

    428467 44.99 Wire Dual Black / Black 29 x 2.30 60 Clincher 765g

    Only the top one is TLR

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam View Post
    29-3's that are not TLR they are the basic cheap ones not the expensive Team versions that are tubeless ready.
    you don't have to have the TLR team's to go tubeless...I've been on my stock 29-3s for 3 weeks now shreddin the gnar with zero issues homie. Im a mechanic and I work at a Trek shop...I've set up plenty of non-tlr tires without incident.

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    I am also a mechanic at a trek dealer.

    Not worth the risk in my book.

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    Well im giving it a go on the 29-3s that came on it. LBS said everything will be awesome so, Just waiting for the parts to arrive,

    In the meantime



    So Much more room/pedal than the cheap-o's i had installed, Just got done configuring the PINS, will install tomorrow.

    Anyone else riding platforms on their stache?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jangles View Post
    Anyone else riding platforms on their stache?
    I went with some Wellgo B103's and a pair of Five Ten's from Pricepoint. I love the look of those Spank's but couldn't justify it... maybe someday. I've loved them! After 15 years of clipless it was pretty rough for 6-8 rides but now I'm really enjoying the freedom. I honestly don't feel like I'm loosing any efficiency with them but I do feel a little more free to push the corners a little harder and do "stupid" stuff like learning how to manual...

    I also went tubeless with my 29-3 "Expert" (non-team issue) tires with no problems... I've been running them down at 16psi in the snow with no problems and 22psi all around.

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    I figured just to get a great pair of pedals right off the rip. The LBS recommended clipless, but every bike i have ever owned has had platforms, so i stayed with the tried and true that i know. Plus being able to take my foot off without having to think, gives me a piece of mind. Dont want to be held back to one type of shoe ya know? I dont do serious riding just ride for fun and pleasure and to get muddy every now and then, so a good pair of platforms was worth it to me. Ive never had this high end of a bike before.

    Glad to know others are running tubeless on the non team issues,makes me even happier on the decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by setransou View Post
    The stache 7 and 8 both come stock w/ 29-3 tires...not xr-3s. You can set up the 29-3s tubeless no problem. Like previous poster said...just rim strips/valve cores/ sealant and you're golden!
    Its the same tire tread/design. It used to be known as XR3 = 26" and 29-3 = 29". New tread design also this past year. Bontrager has consolidated their tire names. It used to be split up 26" and 29" on their website.
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    What do you guys think an optimal 1x10 setup would be for building a stache frame up without getting into xx1 price range?

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    I'd probably get something like the SRAM X7 Crankset (or the X9 or X0 crankset), remove the spider and buy whatever size MRP Bling Ring you are wanting to try out. I would love to do this myself but don't know that I need a 28T chainring bad enough to replace the awesome green crankset...

    You can save $20 by going with a Homebrewed Components chainring but if you want to be riding before summer is over I'd probably go with the MRP.

    Then for the cassette the stock Shimano HG62 11-36 seems like a winner to me. You might be able to shed a couple grams with a different one though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    I'd probably get something like the SRAM X7 Crankset (or the X9 or X0 crankset), remove the spider and buy whatever size MRP Bling Ring you are wanting to try out. I would love to do this myself but don't know that I need a 28T chainring bad enough to replace the awesome green crankset...

    You can save $20 by going with a Homebrewed Components chainring but if you want to be riding before summer is over I'd probably go with the MRP.

    Then for the cassette the stock Shimano HG62 11-36 seems like a winner to me. You might be able to shed a couple grams with a different one though...
    Awesome info thanks. Id be running a 32t ring in front with 11x36 in the rear. Do you think getting a double crankset and running it spiderless or with bash guard is better than using a single speed crankset like xx1 crank? Is there any chainline issues with converting a 2x10 crank to 1x10?

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    If you're just running a 32T up front then you really could go with any crankset, double or triple and a standard 104BCD 32T chainring. With a triple spider you could get two bash rings from BBG and sandwich or "bashwich" your middle chainring to give protection and as a form of chain retention. The XX1 does seem to be a great product but short of that your other options are more a matter of preference or flexibility. I suggested spiderless just to give 28T & 30T chainring options.

    I'd also look at the Shimano Zee Short Cage Derailleur in the 11-36 model. This won't work if you want to go 2x10 but it will keep your chain as tight as possible with 1x10.

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    was thinking the same,might just try a 32 or 34 and see what its like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    If you're just running a 32T up front then you really could go with any crankset, double or triple and a standard 104BCD 32T chainring. With a triple spider you could get two bash rings from BBG and sandwich or "bashwich" your middle chainring to give protection and as a form of chain retention. The XX1 does seem to be a great product but short of that your other options are more a matter of preference or flexibility. I suggested spiderless just to give 28T & 30T chainring options.

    I'd also look at the Shimano Zee Short Cage Derailleur in the 11-36 model. This won't work if you want to go 2x10 but it will keep your chain as tight as possible with 1x10.
    The inner BBG plate (at least the one I have) doesn't work on the Stache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blunderbuss View Post
    The inner BBG plate (at least the one I have) doesn't work on the Stache.
    Good to know! I noticed that the chainstay widens out quickly there. Thanks for the info!

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    It actually wasn't even the chainstay that was the main issue. The bb shell is too fat, as in girth. If I ever get around to it I'm going to try filing some material from the inside edge of the plate to see if it will mount. For now I'm just running 2x10 (full XT) on my Stache.
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    Lets see your Stache official thread

    I have had my stache 8 for about a month now. To date, I've put on a carbon xxx post to soften the feel of the super stiff frame, a carbon RXL handlebar that is slightly shorter at 690mm wide, changed the saddle to my all-time favorite - a WTB Silverado, and put my bontrager computer on. I also put on my favorite Ergon grips and set the tires up tubeless with the TLR rim strips and Stan's. although not TLR tires, the 29-3 Expert has become an all around favorite tire. It sticks in all conditions and sets up tubeless super easy.

    The final upgrade is on the truck from brown Santa. A custom built King wheelset with their Green hubs, Arch EX rims, black brass nips and black supercomp spokes. Won't be the lightest wheelset, but I should save a few grams and the "awesome" factor will be there for sure!

    Overall, I'm really enjoying the geometry of the bike, it's playful, quick, climbs well, descends great and sure footed and just doesn't feel like my superfly carbon hardtail that I broke last year in a crash. Sure the chainstays could be slightly shorter, but, ill agree with others and say that the package works really well together.

    As it sits ready to ride, it is 26.3lbs with two cages and eggbeater pedals.

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    We will need pics!
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    Its pretty amazing how much a shorter stem changed my bike this morning, So much more control of the front end, dont feel stretched out, infact I feel absolutely perfect on my stache now. It was so hard to control and pedal while standing up on the standard 90mm stem that came on my bike, now with the 65mm i can actually stand up and pedal with complete control. It feels rock freaking solid. The longness of turns feels pretty much gone, and everything is snappier on the front end. Love it Love it Love It a thousand times more.

    New pedals gave my feet much more room to maneuver position on the pedal as well. they feel great on the foot, and my feet feel like they are glued on to the bike.

    It is like a whole new bike now














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    Those are some ...hmmm interesting color choices! But hey its not how it looks...its how it rides right!?

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    mine

    Lets see your Stache official thread-dsc05112.jpg
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    put some quality time on it this weekend and love the bike, shortened the bars to 680mm..forks feel great over rooted out sections and was surprised that this turns tighter than i thought.
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    How do you like your stache, I may pick one up Friday im test riding a EVO and a stache. tell me what you enjoy most about the trek.

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    I am a 200lbs 6'0" aggressive rider in the piedmont area of nc. My trails are a mix of rolling singletrack w/ a few tech features spinkled about. I venture into western nc and va from time to time. For how and what I ride, the bike is pretty fun. I've got a wider bar (rf atlas), shorter (50mm) stem, tubeless setup and a reverb seatpost.

    …ros: the drivetrain (crank arms are bomber, rear der. is xt shadow plus), the frame is stout and at stock puts the rider in a neutral position (I like to descend so I put on 50mm stem to skew more to the rear), the thru axles give confident handling in off camber, rutted, or roudy terrain, and finally the brakes (shimano's slx brakes are amazingly effective with enough stopping power and great modulation plus you get tool free reach adjust.

    Cons: takes some effort to get the front wheel up on wheelie drops, manuals etc..., to really get the most out of the bike a reverb is almost a given if you like to get aggressive on descents ($$$).

    Its a good all rounder that can be a quiver killer with the right setup. I use mine for commuting, trail riding, pub crawls, pretty much everything but pisgah national forest and lift access of course.

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    Nice sounds like you enjoy it a lot thanks for the info.

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    How would you guys compare the green Raceface Turbine cranks that come on the stache 8 to the new xt double crankset? Like the green matching the bike but am trying to decide between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by setransou View Post
    I am a 200lbs 6'0" aggressive rider in the piedmont area of nc. My trails are a mix of rolling singletrack w/ a few tech features spinkled about. I venture into western nc and va from time to time. For how and what I ride, the bike is pretty fun. I've got a wider bar (rf atlas), shorter (50mm) stem, tubeless setup and a reverb seatpost.

    …ros: the drivetrain (crank arms are bomber, rear der. is xt shadow plus), the frame is stout and at stock puts the rider in a neutral position (I like to descend so I put on 50mm stem to skew more to the rear), the thru axles give confident handling in off camber, rutted, or roudy terrain, and finally the brakes (shimano's slx brakes are amazingly effective with enough stopping power and great modulation plus you get tool free reach adjust.

    Cons: takes some effort to get the front wheel up on wheelie drops, manuals etc..., to really get the most out of the bike a reverb is almost a given if you like to get aggressive on descents ($$$).

    Its a good all rounder that can be a quiver killer with the right setup. I use mine for commuting, trail riding, pub crawls, pretty much everything but pisgah national forest and lift access of course.
    Why not Pisgah? What is it like there? I have been thinking of taking a trip there. Only about 4 hr drive for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavezFever View Post
    How would you guys compare the green Raceface Turbine cranks that come on the stache 8 to the new xt double crankset? Like the green matching the bike but am trying to decide between the two.
    I did an extended trail demo of the stache 8 and rumblefish pro (3 ring XT) I thought the Race face had a better feel than the XT. The BB felt smoother although I am not sure if it is a different BB. The RF crank felt light and stiff. XT was on par but the RF edged it out IMO.
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    The Turbines are actually pretty stiff relative to the XT. I have some XT's though on my Intense SS (freeride/parkbike) and it withstood multiple lift access days so they are both durable, solid cranks. I think the crankarms from RF have a lifetime guarantee against breakage (not chainring wear or bent rings mind you). Time will tell on the chainring durability...

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    I had the orange pedals on order before I got the bike. I thought i was getting the orange stache, butthe LBS had an 8 frame with 7 parts, and i really liked the look of the 8 frame after seeing it up close. So i walked out with that one. Bottle cage same thing had it before the swap.

    Decided on the orange stem to match my pedals. I love the way it looks and love the bike. Its dfiferent from everyone elses thats fo sure

    Im a bigger rider 250pds and the bike is a dream. I dont find any issues getting the front wheel up at all. Its a fast bike. It may not have th better components of the 8, but for where I live and what i ride on. It has everything i need and more. its really the perfect bike for me. The frame is stout and beastly. Brakes work awesome. Shifting is excelent. Just the over all fun on the bike is great. If i had to choose again. Id buy the same bike no questions asked. It really is the perfect bike for me what I wanted from a MTB.

    If youre on the fringe, go ride one. Ill enjoy mine for many years thats for sure, and thats what its about right? Find a bike you like, make it yours, not worrying about what someone else is riring ane just have fun.

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    [QUOTE=jangles;10273152] I love the way it looks and love the bike. Its dfiferent from everyone elses thats fo sure

    Im a bigger rider 250pds and the bike is a dream. Just the over all fun on the bike is great. If i had to choose again. Id buy the same bike no questions asked. It really is the perfect bike for me what I wanted from a MTB. "

    Way to Go Jangles !! That's what its all about, making her yours and loving it
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    I have a 21 Stache 7 on order at my LBS. Cant wait to ride it. If it feels good its coming home with me on Friday. I'm 6'4 300lbs and Have tested a few different bikes in the last two weeks, just have not found the right one yet I am hoping that this is the bike for me.

    PS. any one have any good\great platform pedal suggestions for under $50

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