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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    I'm currently torn between getting either the Patrol or a Sentinel. I was hoping you guys could give me some advice as it's been difficult trying to make a decision, tbh.

    I'm about 5'6" and about 135 lbs geared up. My current bikes are a 2015 GT Sanction 650b (size S, I'm intending to sell it soon) and a 2016 Dartmoor Hornet AM hardtail (size M). Both were custom builds and were bought frame-only.

    I plan to use the bike as both my DH and Enduro bike, with my hardtail doing the mellower trails + XC stuff.

    Transition bikes are hard to come by in my country (the Philippines) and there are no demo bikes around, which is making my decision too much of a crapshoot.

    Hope you guys can help me out!
    Hi dude
    I am also 5'6. I ride a medium Patrol for a couple of years, it is the most fun/ versatile bike ever. I got a 35mm stem and a 78 wide bars.
    Last weekend i tested a Sentinel, all stock, medium size, 40mm stem, and it felt perfect, pedalling seated was very similar to my 16 Patrol, and going down it s a blast
    The bike is fast and stable, it jumps amanzingly, and you do feel the sbg when you start to lean the bike, not one problem with the wheelbase, at the end of the ride it felt like i owned the bike for months, such is the confidence it gives you. The only thing i disliked is the weight, specially when i compare it with my Patrol, and i do climb a lot.
    So, go medium and get a shorter stem, 31or 35mm and you will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    I'm currently torn between getting either the Patrol or a Sentinel. I was hoping you guys could give me some advice as it's been difficult trying to make a decision, tbh.

    I'm about 5'6" and about 135 lbs geared up. My current bikes are a 2015 GT Sanction 650b (size S, I'm intending to sell it soon) and a 2016 Dartmoor Hornet AM hardtail (size M). Both were custom builds and were bought frame-only.

    I plan to use the bike as both my DH and Enduro bike, with my hardtail doing the mellower trails + XC stuff.

    Transition bikes are hard to come by in my country (the Philippines) and there are no demo bikes around, which is making my decision too much of a crapshoot.

    Hope you guys can help me out!
    Hey Verbl,

    So I'll fill you in a bit as to what my thoughts were on the two bikes, and why I chose the Sentinel.

    The main reason I wanted to switch from my E29 was because it was a thoroughbred race machine. I really wanted a bike that was more playful and fun oriented, rather than all business, all of the time. This had me thinking that the Patrol was going to be the right fit for me but I was interested in how the Sentinel would handle as well.

    If I was to break down my thoughts on the three bikes and compare them, I would liken the Enduro to a Baja trophy truck. It is super smooth, eats up everything and loves to go fast. When I hopped on the Patrol, it felt like a dirt bike. It was extremely playful and loved to turn everything on the mountain into a feature. It had me popping off of every bump I could find on the trail. Then I hopped on the Sentinel and it felt like I had slid into a high end sports car. Super nimble, agile, and incredibly fast!

    For me the Sentinel really bridged the gap between my Enduro and the Patrol. It carried the speed of the E29 but exhibited some of the playfulness of the Patrol. I also am a big fan of the way the 29 inch wheels just eat up all the small imperfections on the trail. In my opinion, it takes a lot more energy to carry the same speed on the Patrol, due simply to how much more of the trail chatter that your body has to absorb.

    Both the Patrol and the Sentinel were very fun bikes to ride but in different ways. The Patrol felt like it had more ramp up in the rear and really rewarded you for pushing into the rear travel and launching off of features. The Sentinel just screamed down the hill, yet was still very spritely feeling while doing so. I guess I just love the rush of the speed combined with a bit of hang time more-so than just sending bigger hits at lower speed.

    The other thing that sold me on the Sentinel vs the Patrol was the height of the BB. Even in Bellingham, which has very buff trails compared to where I live, I managed to strike the pedals a couple of times on the Patrol due to how extremely low it was. With the tech terrain on my home trails, this would be a nightmare.

    If I split my riding time 50/50 between park and natural trails, I think I would have given more thought to the Patrol. I think my riding is probably more 20/80 park/trails and so the Sentinel just made more sense.

    At the end of the day that Sentinel is just a weapon and I can't wait to get this build done so I can unleash it!

    Hope that long winded comparison helps ha ha. If you have any more specific questions let me know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drapeado View Post
    Hi dude
    I am also 5'6. I ride a medium Patrol for a couple of years, it is the most fun/ versatile bike ever. I got a 35mm stem and a 78 wide bars.
    Last weekend i tested a Sentinel, all stock, medium size, 40mm stem, and it felt perfect, pedalling seated was very similar to my 16 Patrol, and going down it s a blast
    The bike is fast and stable, it jumps amanzingly, and you do feel the sbg when you start to lean the bike, not one problem with the wheelbase, at the end of the ride it felt like i owned the bike for months, such is the confidence it gives you. The only thing i disliked is the weight, specially when i compare it with my Patrol, and i do climb a lot.
    So, go medium and get a shorter stem, 31or 35mm and you will be fine.
    drapeado- Thanks for that review and sizing answer- i'm feeling more confident about going with a med on this. I have a Med Nomad now and while the cockpit fits the wheelbase is long already and the Sentinel will be even longer- more like a large on the nomad : ( I do notice that I have to slam my seat all the way back to be comfortable currently so maybe I will be in a better position on the sentinel med by being more centered on the frame. Now I'm finding there are no demos near me ...

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    Don't let the top tube length and such fool you - these bikes actually don't feel as long as you might think, in part due to the steep seat angle. My buddy rides a large YT Jeffsy, and I let him test ride my large Sentinel. I'm running a 35mm stem, and the cockpit of my Sentinel actually felt shorter than his Jeffsy with a 55mm stem. The uber slack head angle and steep seat tube make it feel pretty upright, the big difference it really the length of the wheelbase and how damn far away that front tire looks when you're seated. At 5'6 I think the medium is the right call for sure.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by zhendo View Post
    Don't let the top tube length and such fool you - these bikes actually don't feel as long as you might think, in part due to the steep seat angle. My buddy rides a large YT Jeffsy, and I let him test ride my large Sentinel. I'm running a 35mm stem, and the cockpit of my Sentinel actually felt shorter than his Jeffsy with a 55mm stem. The uber slack head angle and steep seat tube make it feel pretty upright, the big difference it really the length of the wheelbase and how damn far away that front tire looks when you're seated. At 5'6 I think the medium is the right call for sure.
    Zhendo- thanks good to know. I just feel it may be hard to manual something with the wheelbase of an x large nomad : (

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    I'm like 5'-7.75", also currently on a medium Nomad 3. I demoed a medium Sentinel and the fit felt perfect. It will definitely be my next bike. The ETT difference of the two is within 10mm of each other, so you could easily run a 35mm stem instead of a 40 or 50 or whatever you have on your Nomad and it will feel the same.

    I didn't notice the longer wheelbase at all.

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    Anyone have some settings for a Float X2 on this frame yet? Initial setup is very, very positive compared to the DPX2 that came on the frame. Body weight minus 15lb for starting PSI gives 19mm sag. 3 spacers and baseline clicker settings seem to work decent. Much better feel on impacts versus the DPX2, and doesn't come pogo'ing up either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GH28 View Post
    Anyone have some settings for a Float X2 on this frame yet? Initial setup is very, very positive compared to the DPX2 that came on the frame. Body weight minus 15lb for starting PSI gives 19mm sag. 3 spacers and baseline clicker settings seem to work decent. Much better feel on impacts versus the DPX2, and doesn't come pogo'ing up either.
    Pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightops View Post
    Zhendo- thanks good to know. I just feel it may be hard to manual something with the wheelbase of an x large nomad : (
    It is hard to manual compared to a smaller bike, but if you bought a bike for it's manual abilities you'd end up on a circus trike. All of these longer bikes are harder to manual in the parking lot, but its easy enough to loft the wheel at speed and the extra length is oh so worth it in just about every other scenario (except switchbacks, but nobody likes those)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GH28 View Post
    Anyone have some settings for a Float X2 on this frame yet? Initial setup is very, very positive compared to the DPX2 that came on the frame. Body weight minus 15lb for starting PSI gives 19mm sag. 3 spacers and baseline clicker settings seem to work decent. Much better feel on impacts versus the DPX2, and doesn't come pogo'ing up either.
    Did you buy the 2019 version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cYbernation View Post
    Did you buy the 2019 version?
    Yes, 2019. It has a long stiff bottom-out bumper in it. I just popped the air can off to correct the stroke length with some nylon washers behind the bumper. It's a very different bumper than what's on the coil shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GH28 View Post
    Yes, 2019. It has a long stiff bottom-out bumper in it. I just popped the air can off to correct the stroke length with some nylon washers behind the bumper. It's a very different bumper than what's on the coil shock.
    Whatís your weight? Are you getting enough progression out of the shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cYbernation View Post
    Whatís your weight? Are you getting enough progression out of the shock?
    185lb. Need to get it on some proper trails to really be able to tell. What is obvious is just how bassackwards the air can/spring curve is on the DPX2 compared to the Float. Sag numbers need to be re-thought with this air can versus the DPX2.

    The damping on flat landings is already far more useful too. There's no spiking or abrupt bottoming out, at least not to the same degree of the stock shock. Again, need to find somewhere to just do some laps to get a better feel for it.

    I have it loaded up with 3 spacers right now. It would appear that there's a slot for the 4th spacer that comes with the shock, but it doesn't seem to be wide (tall) enough to actually let the spacer clip into place. Very odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GH28 View Post
    Anyone have some settings for a Float X2 on this frame yet? Initial setup is very, very positive compared to the DPX2 that came on the frame. Body weight minus 15lb for starting PSI gives 19mm sag. 3 spacers and baseline clicker settings seem to work decent. Much better feel on impacts versus the DPX2, and doesn't come pogo'ing up either.
    I think Someone (cannot find where) in this thread called Transition about the X2 fit the Sentinel. They said it was not suitable for the frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumblefish2010 View Post
    I think Someone (cannot find where) in this thread called Transition about the X2 fit the Sentinel. They said it was not suitable for the frame?
    The 2019 has a revised bottom-out bumper and the positive volume is reduced to give more ramp-up supposedly.

    I could see wanting more out of it at some point though with 19mm sag and max spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhendo View Post
    Don't let the top tube length and such fool you - these bikes actually don't feel as long as you might think, in part due to the steep seat angle. My buddy rides a large YT Jeffsy, and I let him test ride my large Sentinel. I'm running a 35mm stem, and the cockpit of my Sentinel actually felt shorter than his Jeffsy with a 55mm stem. The uber slack head angle and steep seat tube make it feel pretty upright, the big difference it really the length of the wheelbase and how damn far away that front tire looks when you're seated. At 5'6 I think the medium is the right call for sure.
    Thanks to everyone here for responding.

    It's starting to look like the Sentinel over the Patrol atm. I'm on a Small GT Sanction now (415mm reach) but with a 50mm stem. I rode a Nomad 3 last week (size S) and it felt cramped. I'll certainly think about a size M in the coming weeks.

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    Is this paint chipping normal?
    Never had this happen on my Specialized frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    Is this paint chipping normal?
    Never had this happen on my Specialized frame.
    I hear the paint sucks on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    Is this paint chipping normal?
    Never had this happen on my Specialized frame.
    Yup happens on most bikes especially the Transition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    I'm like 5'-7.75", also currently on a medium Nomad 3. I demoed a medium Sentinel and the fit felt perfect. It will definitely be my next bike. The ETT difference of the two is within 10mm of each other, so you could easily run a 35mm stem instead of a 40 or 50 or whatever you have on your Nomad and it will feel the same.

    I didn't notice the longer wheelbase at all.
    Andeh Thanks for the compo its gonna make buying the med easier if I have to buy unseen..

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    Yeah unfortunately, paint chipping is a common complaint on 2018-2019 Transition frames.

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    2018-2019? Haha, you mean 2001-2019?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aenduro View Post
    2018-2019? Haha, you mean 2001-2019?
    Haha, yeah basically that. They have always sucked.

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    It is really annoying
    All my seat tube is full of paint chip and scratches from stones

    Thinking about getting some frame protection even that is it little bit late

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    If you guys haven't seen it yet, I'd recommend checking out ridewrap.ca

    Their tailored kit offers the most complete protection I was able to find out there. They're a newer company out of Whistler. With the paint chipping issues I wanted to go overboard with the frame protection and this was about as good as it gets I think.

    Their website says they have kits in stock for the Sentinel - that being said, I am still waiting on mine to arrive and the local shop said they ordered it a while back. Still worth taking a look at though.

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    Does anybody have any input fork selection on these bikes? I just ordered a new 2019, current front runners are:

    2019 Fox 36 GRIP2 - 44mm offset
    2019 MRP Coil - 41mm offset

    I know this is kind of a frame agnostic question, but figured I'd ask here to see if anybody has actual experience with either of these two forks on a Sentinel (or transition for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizRider View Post
    Does anybody have any input fork selection on these bikes? I just ordered a new 2019, current front runners are:

    2019 Fox 36 GRIP2 - 44mm offset
    2019 MRP Coil - 41mm offset

    I know this is kind of a frame agnostic question, but figured I'd ask here to see if anybody has actual experience with either of these two forks on a Sentinel (or transition for that matter).
    I have the new 36 and it works fine. I think I liked my 2019 Lyrik better though. I also want to try a 51mm offset fork on the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -C- View Post
    Haha, yeah basically that. They have always sucked.
    Now that you mention it, you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    I have the new 36 and it works fine. I think I liked my 2019 Lyrik better though. I also want to try a 51mm offset fork on the bike.
    Nice ride.....but aren't high offset forks somewhat counter to the SBG shtick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizRider View Post
    Does anybody have any input fork selection on these bikes? I just ordered a new 2019, current front runners are:

    2019 Fox 36 GRIP2 - 44mm offset
    2019 MRP Coil - 41mm offset

    I know this is kind of a frame agnostic question, but figured I'd ask here to see if anybody has actual experience with either of these two forks on a Sentinel (or transition for that matter).
    +1
    I just picked up an '18 Sentinel that has the RC2 36. It's a nice enough feeling fork but I really miss my Ribbon Coil that I had on my 27.5 bike. Debating selling the 36 to get another Ribbon or converting the RC2 to coil. Any opinions?

    Also MRP has a 41mm and 46mm offset option for the Ribbon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizRider View Post
    Nice ride.....but aren't high offset forks somewhat counter to the SBG shtick?
    That doesnít mean they work the best for my riding style.

    Plus, Ripmos come stock with 44offset forks, yet every fast person I know (including the pros I believe) run the 51 offset forks.
    *Yes I know the sentinel is way slacker, but they are fundamentally the same theory, right?

    Canít hurt to try. Other than your wallet... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    That doesnít mean they work the best for my riding style.

    Plus, Ripmos come stock with 44offset forks, yet every fast person I know (including the pros I believe) run the 51 offset forks.
    *Yes I know the sentinel is way slacker, but they are fundamentally the same theory, right?

    Canít hurt to try. Other than your wallet... lol
    Fair enough! Let us know...

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    You can buy just the 51mm CSU for your 36 if you're really that curious. Check out DirtLabs. Cheaper than a second fork.

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    Hi guys!
    I'm about to buy a 2018 Sentinel frameset, it has the RS Deluxe RT as stock, but the LBS offered me the upgrade to the Fox DPX2 Elite shox that is on the 2019 kit for another extra 150Ä.
    Is it worth it, is the DPX2 better then the Deluxe RT on the Sentinel in terms of performance?
    Thx guys!

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    If I was in your shoes, I would do the upgrade. That or I would look for a used DPX2 online - seems like a few guys have swapped theirs out for a coil or an X2. Not sure how the price would compare to what you can find guys selling take offs for. Just make sure to order the correct stroke if you do go that route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paxx View Post
    If I was in your shoes, I would do the upgrade. That or I would look for a used DPX2 online - seems like a few guys have swapped theirs out for a coil or an X2. Not sure how the price would compare to what you can find guys selling take offs for. Just make sure to order the correct stroke if you do go that route.
    It's more than just the correct stroke (if not buying a take-off), you need to get the correct factory tune, there are a lot of different tunes out there. The frame Manuf work with the OEM shock suppliers to get the general tune on the shocks correct for the frames. I'd say it is not an upgrade unless the tunes is specifically designed for the frame.

    I *think* some of the higher end shocks like the X2 are adjustable enough to get them to work with most frames....but, always safe to just get OEM shock or get a shock with a custom tune that matches the OEM one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    You can buy just the 51mm CSU for your 36 if you're really that curious. Check out DirtLabs. Cheaper than a second fork.
    My plan is to find a friend with a 160mm 51offset 29er fork I can borrow (or swap for a ride or two).

    I was close once, but the fork I borrowed had the steerer tube cut super short so it wasnít realistically going to even work on the sentinel.

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    The DPX2 is a take off from a 2019 Transition Sentinel, the other guy made the upgrade to an ÷HLINS TTX22, so it has the correct stroke and tune, otherwise I wouldn't be so tempted.
    My doubt is really just if the upgrade is worth of the extra 150Ä.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aglo View Post
    Is it worth it, is the DPX2 better then the Deluxe RT on the Sentinel in terms of performance?
    Thx guys!
    IMO the deluxe RT shouldn't be installed on any bike. I upgraded from a Deluxe RT to a DPX2 on my Process 153 and never looked back. There were so many cross-flow issues on the RT I couldn't adjust the rebound without it affecting the compression and vice versa. The 3-position adjuster is much better than just two positions also.

    *edit* if possible, ask to keep the old RT for an emergency spare if you're travelling to races etc. A spare shock is a lovely nice-to-have if you're travelling, even if it is just a Deluxe RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    My plan is to find a friend with a 160mm 51offset 29er fork I can borrow (or swap for a ride or two).
    I have a 36 51 CSU that I will sell for cheap if it'll work for you. I'm in Menlo Park. PM if interested.

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    How are people liking their sentinelís for all 2+ hour rides where your climbing for your descents? I climbing everything from 40+minute fire roads to tight PNW loam singletrack. Not along of switchbacks here. Still canít decide between sentinel or smuggler for my one bike quiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddiesconfusion View Post
    How are people liking their sentinelís for all 2+ hour rides where your climbing for your descents? I climbing everything from 40+minute fire roads to tight PNW loam singletrack. Not along of switchbacks here. Still canít decide between sentinel or smuggler for my one bike quiver.
    Perfectly fine. But all my bikes have been long travel so I donít really know any better.

    Would I race it in an xc race? Never.
    But I would happily take it on a backcountry epic 50miles/7500í and know it would be a blast on the rowdiest of descents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddiesconfusion View Post
    How are people liking their sentinelís for all 2+ hour rides where your climbing for your descents? I climbing everything from 40+minute fire roads to tight PNW loam singletrack. Not along of switchbacks here. Still canít decide between sentinel or smuggler for my one bike quiver.
    It's totally adequate for that type of riding. Most of my rides on the Sentinel are 2-4 hours, 3-4k ft of elevation gain. Compared to my other bike (Ibis Mojo 3, a 130mm travel DW link), the Sentinel is a bit more work to lug up a hill, but it's not a drastic difference. In fact, my first ride on it I PR'd a 45 minute fire-road slog. That was most certainly due to new bike stoke, and not the Sentinel's climbing prowess, but my point is that it's not a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddiesconfusion View Post
    How are people liking their sentinelís for all 2+ hour rides where your climbing for your descents? I climbing everything from 40+minute fire roads to tight PNW loam singletrack. Not along of switchbacks here. Still canít decide between sentinel or smuggler for my one bike quiver.
    The long slow climb and then fast and rowdy descent is the reason this bike exists and is pretty much the only kind of riding I do.

    The Sentinel actually climbs great. Itís not fast, but it is super comfortable and has loads of traction for the steep sections. It can be a bit of a handful in the super tight switchbacks, but it didnít take me long to adjust. Now the only switchbacks I canít make are too tight for my buddies to make on their shorter bikes anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jminus View Post
    The long slow climb and then fast and rowdy descent is the reason this bike exists and is pretty much the only kind of riding I do.

    The Sentinel actually climbs great. Itís not fast, but it is super comfortable and has loads of traction for the steep sections. It can be a bit of a handful in the super tight switchbacks, but it didnít take me long to adjust. Now the only switchbacks I canít make are too tight for my buddies to make on their shorter bikes anyway.
    I feel almost the exact same.

    The new bike smell has worn off on my 18' Alloy, but I'm still stoked on the bike. Most of my rides are 2hr+. There hasn't been a hill I haven't been able to turtle up (record now is a 5000ft sustained climb). Not the most enjoyable experience, but it's the rabbit speed decent is what makes it worth it. The wheel size and frame geo inspires so much speed and confidence, it's pretty amazing.

    I too had to adjust my entry for super-tight switchbacks, and sometimes have to endo the rear around, but it has not been an issue for me....and I encounter some pretty tight stuff here in SoCal trails.

    I would vote yeah, Sentinel would make for a good 1 bike quiver candidate....I also have a pretty capable 27.5 next to mine (Evil Insurgent).

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    Would I race it in an xc race? Never.
    Coward! :P (only saying that because I got suckered into making up numbers in Sport class XC race last weekend on my Enduro bike)

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    I'll say that while it's not the most efficient climber, flipping the shock into trail mode does make a big difference in the bike's responsiveness while on the gas and heading uphill. Also worth noting is how upright and comfortable the pedaling position is - the proportions of the bike just work well for my height and dimensions, so I'm far more comfortable pedaling this bike up for extended amounts of time and on longer rides relative to my old Evil Following, which was a more "efficient" bike.

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    Curious as to where people are getting the custom decals done?

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    Curious as to where people are getting the custom decals done?
    Any place that you can find that print and cut vinil, you just need to download the templates from the Transition website, choose a Pantone code and wait 5min.

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    As for the custom decals, yeah, just got the logo files sent over from Transition and then had a local shop print them off. I know that Fanatik also sells them online if you don't know of any print shops in your area. They have a number of different options that you can choose from.

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    I actually spent hours on Fanatik's website playing around on their custom bike builder playing with different part configurations, colour schemes, etc. It's pretty kick ass if you haven't seen it.

    You can see exactly how much your bike will weigh with different components on it, what the final price will be and everything. That's how I determined my entire build. I'd definitely recommend checking them out.

    I ended up ordering everything through my local shop because they've always been so good to me, but the Fanatik site is such a great resource!

    Here's the link.. https://www.fanatikbike.com

    Just click on the bike builder and start playing - careful, it might end up costing you a small fortune like it did for me though! ha ha

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    thanks for the link! I'm really looking forward to see your complete build - I like that gun& gold :-)

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    Well the new wheelset arrived today! Chris King hubs with cx-rays laced to We Are One Composite hoops.

    Not bad weights for 29ers, with Exo+ tires, 203mm rotors f/r and about 4-5oz of Stan's sealant!

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    Where did you get EXO+ ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    Where did you get EXO+ ???
    Just through my local shop!

    They are starting to spec them on the new '19 Santa Cruz bikes now. They ordered one in for me on the rear and the other they pulled off of one of the SC bikes. I wanted a DHF Exo+ up front but I would have been waiting until mid January so I decided to run the DHR f/r for now because that's what was available.

    I live in the interior of BC in a super rocky area and I destroy regular Exo tires. The DD have survived well for me so I'm interested to see if the + can bridge the gap. The Exo+ is a 75g weight increase vs the DD which is a 200g increase.

    I'm trying to keep the rolling weight lower to keep the ride a bit more nimble. That's the main reason I went with the Insider rims instead of the Agents as well. Going with the Insider and Exo+ vs the Agent and DD should save me about 225g of rolling weight per wheel which will make a big difference in feel on the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paxx View Post
    Just through my local shop!

    They are starting to spec them on the new '19 Santa Cruz bikes now. They ordered one in for me on the rear and the other they pulled off of one of the SC bikes. I wanted a DHF Exo+ up front but I would have been waiting until mid January so I decided to run the DHR f/r for now because that's what was available.

    I live in the interior of BC in a super rocky area and I destroy regular Exo tires. The DD have survived well for me so I'm interested to see if the + can bridge the gap. The Exo+ is a 75g weight increase vs the DD which is a 200g increase.

    I'm trying to keep the rolling weight lower to keep the ride a bit more nimble. That's the main reason I went with the Insider rims instead of the Agents as well. Going with the Insider and Exo+ vs the Agent and DD should save me about 225g of rolling weight per wheel which will make a big difference in feel on the trail.
    Ah, nice!
    Iím pretty light and ride in Santa Cruz which has zero rocks, but still rather run exo+ when not racing for the little bit of extra support. Preferably DHF front and rear.

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    I just swapped out my Deluxe RT for a DPX2 that I bought from PB as a new removal from another new Sentinel. Wow. I can feel the difference between the two shocks. I also installed my GX Eagle drivetrain too. I definitely love this bike now more than ever!

    I didn't like how the SRAM Level T brakes felt so I swapped them out for my Shimano XT brakes for the time being. I am definitely in the market for 4 piston brakes, but I will look around later on.
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    Hey Guys

    Got a 2018 Patrol now and was thinking I'd like to try a Sentinel

    Im curious if any of you have the similar line of thought as Daily MTB Rider

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tWMg8WafPw

    1) Heavy Bike but is great descender
    2) Not a fun bike to Climb, but will get you there and is a great descender
    3) Not Playful- but its a great descender

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Hey Guys

    Got a 2018 Patrol now and was thinking I'd like to try a Sentinel

    Im curious if any of you have the similar line of thought as Daily MTB Rider

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tWMg8WafPw

    1) Heavy Bike but is great descender
    2) Not a fun bike to Climb, but will get you there and is a great descender
    3) Not Playful- but its a great descender
    He nailed that review pretty much spot on. Best descending LT 29íer Iíve ever ridden but it comes at a price and thatís climbing efficiency and also nimbleness.

    Even if you build a carbon Sentinel as light as you could without compromising durability itís still a tank.

    I think if you can own 2 bikes itís a great choice but for a 1 bike solution there are much better options......Rallon, Ripmo, SB150, Spartan 29 and RM Instinct

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    He nailed that review pretty much spot on. Best descending LT 29íer Iíve ever ridden but it comes at a price and thatís climbing efficiency and also nimbleness.

    Even if you build a carbon Sentinel as light as you could without compromising durability itís still a tank.

    I think if you can own 2 bikes itís a great choice but for a 1 bike solution there are much better options......Rallon, Ripmo, SB150, Spartan 29 and RM Instinct

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Hey Guys

    Got a 2018 Patrol now and was thinking I'd like to try a Sentinel

    Im curious if any of you have the similar line of thought as Daily MTB Rider

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tWMg8WafPw

    1) Heavy Bike but is great descender
    2) Not a fun bike to Climb, but will get you there and is a great descender
    3) Not Playful- but its a great descender
    Not really actually. Thoughts on each below:

    1) It's not that heavy in the carbon flavor, the aluminum is where it gets porky. That said, the aluminum frame is burly as hell and I have never regretted saving that $1K versus the carbon.

    2) Climbing on this bike is actually surprisingly good given its intentions. The pedaling position is super comfortable, and the suspension does a good job of staying high in the travel while on the gas. If you need more support, flip the DPX2's switch into the middle compression setting and it's quite efficient.

    3) Also disagree here, but a lot of this has to do with proper suspension setup. When I got the bike, I was running too little air pressure and too much rebound damping. The bike sat pretty deeply into its travel, and the rear end felt stuck to the ground. Fast forward to now, I've beefed up the compression shim stack, added air pressure and backed off rebound damping for a more responsive ride. With these tweaks, the bike is very lively

    All of my complements for this bike, and critiques of others, are based on frame of reference. I ride downhill bikes at Whistler in the summer months, teach mountain bike classes in the Pacific Northwest, and ride really steep, really technical trails nearly every time I go out. The stability of the long wheelbase and uber-slack HA make this bike a revelation when speeds or the angle of the terrain pick up. For how well it performs in the gnar, it is surprisingly nimble to me. The alloy frame has shitty paint, but has been incredibly reliable despite me ragging on it all year and logging lots of miles as an instructor. This bike falls at the extreme end of the modern geometry spectrum, especially in the HA department, and bikes like the Ripmo and Rallon have steeper head tubes and are correspondingly a bit shorter in the WB. They will feel quicker in flatter terrain, but won't keep pace with the Sentinel when things get truly hairball.

    Looking at key geometry figures and suspension can tell you a lot about how the bike will ride...these bikes getting glowing reviews all generally have well-sorted suspension, so look at the geo charts and think about how extreme of geo your riding style can justify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Hey Guys

    Got a 2018 Patrol now and was thinking I'd like to try a Sentinel

    Im curious if any of you have the similar line of thought as Daily MTB Rider

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tWMg8WafPw

    1) Heavy Bike but is great descender
    2) Not a fun bike to Climb, but will get you there and is a great descender
    3) Not Playful- but its a great descender
    I think he misses the mark by a mile aside from the descending part.

    1) Not heavy. The frame weight is right in line with other bikes in this class (the weight is posted earlier in this thread). He porked out his build and blames the bike for not feeling light or responsive. My bike is 29lbs even with 1000+ gram e13 tires.

    2) I find this bike climbs great and some tech climbing is "fun" but not sure enduro bikes are supposed to be fun to climb.

    3) This bike is most definitely playful unless you're trying to ride it like a short, steep xc/trail bike and sit on top of while putzing around wondering why its not knifing around sharp corners. Sentinel is very responsive to rider input but until you give it input, it predictably rides like a long, slack 29er.

    The reviewer says this bike is not for the xc type rider... shocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhendo View Post
    Not really actually. Thoughts on each below:

    1) It's not that heavy in the carbon flavor, the aluminum is where it gets porky. That said, the aluminum frame is burly as hell and I have never regretted saving that $1K versus the carbon.

    2) Climbing on this bike is actually surprisingly good given its intentions. The pedaling position is super comfortable, and the suspension does a good job of staying high in the travel while on the gas. If you need more support, flip the DPX2's switch into the middle compression setting and it's quite efficient.

    3) Also disagree here, but a lot of this has to do with proper suspension setup. When I got the bike, I was running too little air pressure and too much rebound damping. The bike sat pretty deeply into its travel, and the rear end felt stuck to the ground. Fast forward to now, I've beefed up the compression shim stack, added air pressure and backed off rebound damping for a more responsive ride. With these tweaks, the bike is very lively

    All of my complements for this bike, and critiques of others, are based on frame of reference. I ride downhill bikes at Whistler in the summer months, teach mountain bike classes in the Pacific Northwest, and ride really steep, really technical trails nearly every time I go out. The stability of the long wheelbase and uber-slack HA make this bike a revelation when speeds or the angle of the terrain pick up. For how well it performs in the gnar, it is surprisingly nimble to me. The alloy frame has shitty paint, but has been incredibly reliable despite me ragging on it all year and logging lots of miles as an instructor. This bike falls at the extreme end of the modern geometry spectrum, especially in the HA department, and bikes like the Ripmo and Rallon have steeper head tubes and are correspondingly a bit shorter in the WB. They will feel quicker in flatter terrain, but won't keep pace with the Sentinel when things get truly hairball.

    Looking at key geometry figures and suspension can tell you a lot about how the bike will ride...these bikes getting glowing reviews all generally have well-sorted suspension, so look at the geo charts and think about how extreme of geo your riding style can justify.
    Zack- thanks for your feedback- I was the guy that picked up your old 200mm Sram rotor

    Im going to hit Transition for a demo to see how different it feels on the ups and downs vs my patrol

    I suspect that it will be more monster truck vs flickable that my 2018 GX patrol is

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    I do not agree when he makes this bike seem like a horrible climbing bike. The position you are pedaling in because of the steep STA is comfortable for me to pedal all day until my fitness gives out. It climbs better than my previous bikes of a specialized Enduro and a Commencal meta.

    I think my bike weighs 32.5 lbs. Also lighter than my previous bikes.

    My biggest complaint now that I got a lot of miles on mine is that the rear tire clearance is not enough for my liking. I prefer to run a 2.5 Maxxis DHF front and rear, and with this tire it will rub the chainstays/seatstays when cornering really hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhendo View Post
    Not really actually. Thoughts on each below:

    1) It's not that heavy in the carbon flavor, the aluminum is where it gets porky. That said, the aluminum frame is burly as hell and I have never regretted saving that $1K versus the carbon.

    2) Climbing on this bike is actually surprisingly good given its intentions. The pedaling position is super comfortable, and the suspension does a good job of staying high in the travel while on the gas. If you need more support, flip the DPX2's switch into the middle compression setting and it's quite efficient.

    3) Also disagree here, but a lot of this has to do with proper suspension setup. When I got the bike, I was running too little air pressure and too much rebound damping. The bike sat pretty deeply into its travel, and the rear end felt stuck to the ground. Fast forward to now, I've beefed up the compression shim stack, added air pressure and backed off rebound damping for a more responsive ride. With these tweaks, the bike is very lively

    All of my complements for this bike, and critiques of others, are based on frame of reference. I ride downhill bikes at Whistler in the summer months, teach mountain bike classes in the Pacific Northwest, and ride really steep, really technical trails nearly every time I go out. The stability of the long wheelbase and uber-slack HA make this bike a revelation when speeds or the angle of the terrain pick up. For how well it performs in the gnar, it is surprisingly nimble to me. The alloy frame has shitty paint, but has been incredibly reliable despite me ragging on it all year and logging lots of miles as an instructor. This bike falls at the extreme end of the modern geometry spectrum, especially in the HA department, and bikes like the Ripmo and Rallon have steeper head tubes and are correspondingly a bit shorter in the WB. They will feel quicker in flatter terrain, but won't keep pace with the Sentinel when things get truly hairball.

    Looking at key geometry figures and suspension can tell you a lot about how the bike will ride...these bikes getting glowing reviews all generally have well-sorted suspension, so look at the geo charts and think about how extreme of geo your riding style can justify.
    I donít know what youíve previously ridden but the bike pedals like Shit. Yes the STA helps on seared grind it out climbs but the bikes has poor pedal efficiency.

    Yes I understand all the Pros and Cons regarding the Sentinel as well as all the LT 29íers since I own quite a few and the giddy up kinematics blow in this regard. Like I said below I think anyone that needs to get to the top to really get the most out of this bike ďDownsĒ because itís the best around. The long WB and TT keep you in the optimal position for steeps and plowing but the bike in no way is nimble or playful.

    You can only do so much to achieve that ďPoppy EffectĒ without getting diminishing returns. The bike was never intended to be that way anyways.

    The Sentinel is great for flow and straight line speed and wide banked turns and most of its jumping characteristics come from the high trail speed you carry so you can boost everything.

    You can paint whatever picture you want as an owner but youíd be lying about the nitpicks he ďDailymtbriderĒ had as they are exactly the Sentinels weaknesses which is perfectly fine because it has plenty of strengths.

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    One other thing to note is the YouTube reviewer lives and rides in Bellingham and those variety of trails lead me to believe he knows what heís talking about since Iíve ridden there twice as well at Galbraith. Tight and Techy mixed with tons of flow and features. Not to mention heís a solid rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    I do not agree when he makes this bike seem like a horrible climbing bike. The position you are pedaling in because of the steep STA is comfortable for me to pedal all day until my fitness gives out. It climbs better than my previous bikes of a specialized Enduro and a Commencal meta.

    I think my bike weighs 32.5 lbs. Also lighter than my previous bikes.

    My biggest complaint now that I got a lot of miles on mine is that the rear tire clearance is not enough for my liking. I prefer to run a 2.5 Maxxis DHF front and rear, and with this tire it will rub the chainstays/seatstays when cornering really hard.
    You can put a steep STA on every bike in production and itíll pedal adequately. The bikes is not at all snappy and has tons of wasted suspension movement just like all 4 bar designs.

    Using the 3 position lever helps keep the rear End movement somewhat in check but the you lose traction and the rear end tends to get hung up or skip.

    I get everyone that owns the bike is fine with those compromises but every single current model release is copying what Transition and Pole did with STA - Seated position pedaling so then what sets the bikes apart are kinematics and antisquat.

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    In the end itís not important to spotlight how the bike climbs anymore because it only needs to be adequate to get up the hill.

    I enjoy riding my Sentinel and I finished a 6 day trip riding GJ/Fruita/Moab as well as Crested Butte and Gunnison so I did plenty of steep and Techy climbs as most days had 2500-3500 feet and Iím just stating my views on the points the reviewer made and remember were only talking about 140mm of Rear travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    You can put a steep STA on every bike in production and itíll pedal adequately. The bikes is not at all snappy and has tons of wasted suspension movement just like all 4 bar designs.

    Using the 3 position lever helps keep the rear End movement somewhat in check but the you lose traction and the rear end tends to get hung up or skip.

    I get everyone that owns the bike is fine with those compromises but every single current model release is copying what Transition and Pole did with STA - Seated position pedaling so then what sets the bikes apart are kinematics and antisquat.
    I think that's why people say to use the middle position on the DPX2. I noticed when I demo'd it that it seemed to be the sweet spot: firm enough to pedal out of the saddle without a ton of bob, but still active enough to not get hung up on roots & stuff. I personally am fine with flipping the climb switch once every 30-45 minutes it it means it descends awesome.

    The reason why I am heavily leaning towards getting the Sentinel over a lot of the other copycats is that it seems like every one of them doesn't go all the way on geometry, or goes too far the other way for kinematics.
    * Ripmo - climbs great but not slack enough HTA. Also, I previously found Ibis suspension just skips around on descents.
    * Smash - similar story - not slack enough HTA, still a 4-bar but tuned more toward pedaling. Sizing is about half size off from normal, so if you're on the edge like me you're kinda screwed. When I demo'd a GG, it just felt too high and firm for my taste.
    * SB-150 - probably great, but $3,800 for a pressfit frame? Get out.
    * Offering - again, kind steep HTA, unless you run in x-low, or use an angleset. I'm going to test ride one of these tomorrow. I suspect it will feel similar to Ibis or GG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    I donít know what youíve previously ridden but the bike pedals like Shit. Yes the STA helps on seared grind it out climbs but the bikes has poor pedal efficiency.
    Compared to what though? Please share with us some other Enduro bikes that are ďlong and slackĒ that pedal extremely well in comparison.

    It is the best pedaling bike I have owned and I will have no worries taking it on a 10kí elevation day or racing it in an EWS. (Also racing it in TransBC this year)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    I think that's why people say to use the middle position on the DPX2. I noticed when I demo'd it that it seemed to be the sweet spot: firm enough to pedal out of the saddle without a ton of bob, but still active enough to not get hung up on roots & stuff. I personally am fine with flipping the climb switch once every 30-45 minutes it it means it descends awesome.

    The reason why I am heavily leaning towards getting the Sentinel over a lot of the other copycats is that it seems like every one of them doesn't go all the way on geometry, or goes too far the other way for kinematics.
    * Ripmo - climbs great but not slack enough HTA. Also, I previously found Ibis suspension just skips around on descents.
    * Smash - similar story - not slack enough HTA, still a 4-bar but tuned more toward pedaling. Sizing is about half size off from normal, so if you're on the edge like me you're kinda screwed. When I demo'd a GG, it just felt too high and firm for my taste.
    * SB-150 - probably great, but $3,800 for a pressfit frame? Get out.
    * Offering - again, kind steep HTA, unless you run in x-low, or use an angleset. I'm going to test ride one of these tomorrow. I suspect it will feel similar to Ibis or GG.
    I wasnít at all trying to veer you away from how great of a bike the Sentinel is.....I love mine but itís not the best tool for every job and myself and the reviewer explain those couple shortcomings.

    Every single bike has weaknesses and compromises.

    Youíll love the Sentinel if you get one and Iíd suggest going with the Carbon frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    Compared to what though? Please share with us some other Enduro bikes that are ďlong and slackĒ that pedal extremely well in comparison.

    It is the best pedaling bike I have owned and I will have no worries taking it on a 10kí elevation day or racing it in an EWS. (Also racing it in TransBC this year)
    RansomĒGimicky but worksĒ, Rallon ďSP cloneĒ, Spartan29 ďSplit PivotĒ and Yeti SB150 ďSIĒ all are similar in Geo and HA and all pedal better than the Sentinel in Open mode on the Shock.

    These bikes also firm up when you need to lay down power on sprint sections or undulating terrain like youíd get on an EWS course. Where having a race bike can make up tons of time when most toplevel guys are all good at descending.

    You asked so Iím happy to help. Now Iíll admit the only bike in the bunch that can equal the Sentinel on the downs is the SB150 and the compromises with that bike are limited rear tire clearance and also a slightly compliant rear end as it was engineered with a little flex to help take the edge off long extended descending tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    You asked so Iím happy to help. Now Iíll admit the only bike in the bunch that can equal the Sentinel on the downs is the SB150 and the compromises with that bike are limited rear tire clearance and also a slightly compliant rear end as it was engineered with a little flex to help take the edge off long extended descending tracks.
    Thanks for the reply. I havenít been on any of those bikes so I wouldnít know any better.
    And I donít doubt the SB150 is an all around better bike. But I probably have around $4200 invested in this bike, and no way would I be able to build a new Yeti for even close to that price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    I donít doubt the SB150 is an all around better bike. But I probably have around $4200 invested in this bike, and no way I would be able to build a new Yeti for even close to that price range.
    The bottom line is the Sentinel is a badass bike and I love mine. To be honest Transition doesnít need any gimmicks or BS with the bikes they build as they are Burly and aggressive and rarely will hang you out to dry when things get Gnarly.

    They also overbuild the frames which is very reassuring and gives you that extra peace of mind. I know Iím a grown man and 210 pounds full kit and I have no problem grinding out climbs to get the real reward of an amazing DH.

    I only agree with a few compromises which isnít a problem since the bikes is so good.

    You really canít put a price on that smile inducing feel when your barreling down the sketchiest lines in the PNW and thatís exactly why the Sentinel is loved.

    Most people that buy that bike understand this and itís all good.

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    So um, is my aluminum Sentinel NX overweight at 36 lbs? I weighed it when it was stock and it was on or about 35.5 lbs. Since then, I installed a SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain with a SunRace 12spd cassette, kept the RaceFace Aeffect crank, Cushcore, ANVL handlebar, pedals, and saddle. I also replaced the Deluxe RT with a DPX2. I also live in WA state too

    I do get a little rowdy and I tend to ride on the rough stuff regularly. I thought about swapping to a carbon Sentinel frame next winter. I can handle the weight of the bike and I climbed quite a bit with this bike when it had the NX gear on it. It was a heavy climber during my 1,500ft climb but it wasn't too bad. I want to do the same climb but with my Eagle now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    Even if you build a carbon Sentinel as light as you could without compromising durability itís still a tank.
    I donít know what youíve previously ridden but the bike pedals like Shit.
    RansomĒGimicky but worksĒ, Rallon ďSP cloneĒ, Spartan29 ďSplit PivotĒ and Yeti SB150 ďSIĒ all are similar in Geo and HA and all pedal better than the Sentinel in Open mode on the Shock.
    Iím happy to help
    The bottom line is the Sentinel is a badass bike and I love mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    RansomĒGimicky but worksĒ, Rallon ďSP cloneĒ, Spartan29 ďSplit PivotĒ and Yeti SB150 ďSIĒ all are similar in Geo and HA and all pedal better than the Sentinel in Open mode on the Shock.

    These bikes also firm up when you need to lay down power on sprint sections or undulating terrain like youíd get on an EWS course. Where having a race bike can make up tons of time when most toplevel guys are all good at descending.

    You asked so Iím happy to help. Now Iíll admit the only bike in the bunch that can equal the Sentinel on the downs is the SB150 and the compromises with that bike are limited rear tire clearance and also a slightly compliant rear end as it was engineered with a little flex to help take the edge off long extended descending tracks.
    Not to derail a sentinel thread, but have you ridden a ransom? Itís a downright beast on the downs. More active than SI suspension, and when you replace the fit4 damper with a grip2 you get a fork that can keep up with the rear suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1976 View Post
    Not to derail a sentinel thread, but have you ridden a ransom? Itís a downright beast on the downs. More active than SI suspension, and when you replace the fit4 damper with a grip2 you get a fork that can keep up with the rear suspension.
    I rode the Ransom just 2 weeks ago in Manizales Colombia for 2 laps on one of my favorite trails. Bike felt good but Iím not at all interested as it was my friends new bike for 2019 race season and honestly I had more fun on the Spartan 29.

    With that being said the Ransom and SB150 are probably the 2 hottest race bikes at the moment and I have a friend in Colorado thatíll race the next year on the Ransom and he parted ways with the SB150 due to rear tire clearance and Shock bushing issues and a few other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    With that being said the Ransom and SB150 are probably the 2 hottest race bikes at the moment and I have a friend in Colorado thatíll race the next year on the Ransom and he parted ways with the SB150 due to rear tire clearance and Shock bushing issues and a few other things.
    I havenít even seen a single Ransom in person. In California for 2019 I think the hottest race bikes will be the SB150, Pivot Firebird 29, and the new SC long travel 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    I rode the Ransom just 2 weeks ago in Manizales Colombia for 2 laps on one of my favorite trails. Bike felt good but Iím not at all interested as it was my friends new bike for 2019 race season and honestly I had more fun on the Spartan 29.

    With that being said the Ransom and SB150 are probably the 2 hottest race bikes at the moment and I have a friend in Colorado thatíll race the next year on the Ransom and he parted ways with the SB150 due to rear tire clearance and Shock bushing issues and a few other things.
    Cool, ya I wasnít that interested in the Ransom either and thought the twinloc was a gimmick that Iíd never use. Until I rode my buddyís Ransom. It honestly blew my SB 5.5 away for what we ride most of the time. My 5.5 is also on the small side for me being a large at 6í1, especially now with the modern geometry thatís out.

    Was debating between the sentinel or waiting for the new Santa Cruz LT 29er to be released. But the Ransom jumped right up there with them and I can also get a really good price on one so that might be the direction I go.

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    A lot of locations must just have easy ups, then fantastic and extended downhills.
    Where I ride, a poor peddaling bike negatively effects 80% of the ride time that is either undulating or uphill. Thankfully there are a handful of bikes that shred going down, while also climbing very well.
    I'm still searching for that magical trail that is downhill in both directions however!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    A lot of locations must just have easy ups, then fantastic and extended downhills.
    Where I ride, a poor peddaling bike negatively effects 80% of the ride time that is either undulating or uphill. Thankfully there are a handful of bikes that shred going down, while also climbing very well.
    I'm still searching for that magical trail that is downhill in both directions however!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paxx View Post
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    Have you used this brand of grip before? If you have what do you think of them?

    I have big hands and have issues with numbness. I've been shopping around for larger diameter grips and have stumbled across the Revgrips. They make a 34mm diameter grip and I'm interested but the price is holding me back.

    Before anyone suggests Oury/squishy silicone grips let me stop you because all those grips do is squash down into a tiny size and get crazy slippy when they get wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Have you used this brand of grip before? If you have what do you think of them?

    I have big hands and have issues with numbness. I've been shopping around for larger diameter grips and have stumbled across the Revgrips. They make a 34mm diameter grip and I'm interested but the price is holding me back.

    Before anyone suggests Oury/squishy silicone grips let me stop you because all those grips do is squash down into a tiny size and get crazy slippy when they get wet.
    I have two frequent riding buddies that have used those grips for an extended period of time in the past. I believe they both felt like they were decent, but did not offer them any (or very little) benefit in lessening hand fatigue on long rough descents. Neither of them are still using these grips right now.

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    I have the large diameter rev grips and like them a lot. There is no certain fix to hand issues but I find these grips fantastic on really rough terrain. Work as advertised IME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Have you used this brand of grip before? If you have what do you think of them?

    I have big hands and have issues with numbness. I've been shopping around for larger diameter grips and have stumbled across the Revgrips. They make a 34mm diameter grip and I'm interested but the price is holding me back.

    Before anyone suggests Oury/squishy silicone grips let me stop you because all those grips do is squash down into a tiny size and get crazy slippy when they get wet.
    Been running the first set they offered for awhile now with great results. I think they help in my
    opinion. Also bought the race series for my
    Other bike after getting it built. Only grip I will run. Worth it in my opinion. Good Luck!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Have you used this brand of grip before? If you have what do you think of them?

    I have big hands and have issues with numbness. I've been shopping around for larger diameter grips and have stumbled across the Revgrips. They make a 34mm diameter grip and I'm interested but the price is holding me back.

    Before anyone suggests Oury/squishy silicone grips let me stop you because all those grips do is squash down into a tiny size and get crazy slippy when they get wet.
    Iíve only got one ride on them so far but Iíve got a couple buddies that swear by them. I think if youíre looking to the solution to that problem though, you need to look at the SQ-Labs 12* backsweep handlebars. They immediately fixed my numb hand issue.

    I wanted to mix it up and try a different combo on this build but after the first ride I donít think it will be nearly as effective as the backsweep bars. They feel a bit strange for the first 2-3 rides and then you just forget about it and enjoy pain free riding after that.

    Iíll report back on the Revgrips after a few more trips out though. Iím hoping they work!

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    As for the whole climbing/playful/descending discussion - I think itís all relative to your trails and your riding style. I really like the active 4 link suspension for the tech climbing in my area compared to the ďbetterĒ climbing suspension designs out there. Combine the active suspension with the steep seat angle and youíve got a winning combo. Maybe not for fire road grinds, but thatís not what I have.

    As for playful, this bike is extremely playful compared to my Specialized Enduro. Maybe not compared to a bike thatís designed solely for flicking around a trail but for a bike that can still win enduro races, it is extremely playful. Put this bike next to a SB150, Capra, Enduro, etc and I think this bike could be considered very playful.

    Again itís all relative. I bought this bike because it can keep up with the big bikes on most of the rowdy B.C. terrain around here but is way more playful and climbs a lot better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Have you used this brand of grip before? If you have what do you think of them?

    I have big hands and have issues with numbness. I've been shopping around for larger diameter grips and have stumbled across the Revgrips. They make a 34mm diameter grip and I'm interested but the price is holding me back.

    Before anyone suggests Oury/squishy silicone grips let me stop you because all those grips do is squash down into a tiny size and get crazy slippy when they get wet.
    Have you tried ergon grips? I had the same issues as you, big hands, numbness/cramps on long descents, Iíve been using the ge1 grips for a couple of years and now the gd1 grips both in the thick diameter and they have completely stopped the issue for me. At £25 for a pair they may be worth a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Have you used this brand of grip before? If you have what do you think of them?

    I have big hands and have issues with numbness. I've been shopping around for larger diameter grips and have stumbled across the Revgrips. They make a 34mm diameter grip and I'm interested but the price is holding me back.

    Before anyone suggests Oury/squishy silicone grips let me stop you because all those grips do is squash down into a tiny size and get crazy slippy when they get wet.
    Check out the ODI Rogue grips. They are larger in diameter and have good grip and enough squish but not too much.

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    Well folks, here she is! Sheís been dubbed the #mountainmurderweapon by a buddy of mine and I think that might just stick!

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    This thing is an absolute beast! I canít wait to get more seat time.

    Also, I donít know how to post videos here but if you search Instagram for my name - Max Picton, or search that hashtag #mountainmurderweapon youíll find a cool time lapse video of us building the bike in the shop.

    Well, Iím off to go shred! Later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paxx View Post
    Well folks, here she is! Sheís been dubbed the #mountainmurderweapon by a buddy of mine and I think that might just stick!

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    This thing is an absolute beast! I canít wait to get more seat time.

    Also, I donít know how to post videos here but if you search Instagram for my name - Max Picton, or search that hashtag #mountainmurderweapon youíll find a cool time lapse video of us building the bike in the shop.

    Well, Iím off to go shred! Later!
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    Hey Paxx your bike build and parts choices for your build are probaly the single best culmination I've ever seen on any bike posted on these forums.....absolutely stunning !

    I especially love the choice of Insider Wheels the keep weight down and of course the Magura brakes as well as the custom Decals. Obviously finnishing everything off with your Push front and rear coil setup.....Congratulations
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