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    2020 Scout in Carbon coming?

    Anyone know if the current Ally Scout is being made in carbon?
    Its the perfect geometry - ticks every single box. But I want carbon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by richt2000 View Post
    Anyone know if the current Ally Scout is being made in carbon?
    Its the perfect geometry - ticks every single box. But I want carbon...
    Waiting anxiously for info as well. Demoed the aluminum version and really liked it. My "guess" would be yes for carbon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinboyer View Post
    Waiting anxiously for info as well. Demoed the aluminum version and really liked it. My "guess" would be yes for carbon.
    I'm torn between building a Scout and a carbon Smuggler at the moment. I'd prefer a Scout but 4kg for frame is pretty ridiculous. The Smuggler is a full kilo lighter but I'll have to buy new wheels to build it which adds to the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richt2000 View Post
    Anyone know if the current Ally Scout is being made in carbon?
    Its the perfect geometry - ticks every single box. But I want carbon...
    Should be a new Scout coming but look for changes compared to the current model. Carbon should be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    Should be a new Scout coming but look for changes compared to the current model. Carbon should be available.
    My kid really wants the carbon Scout bike for his birthday, which is coming up in a couple of weeks. He's fine not receiving it on his birthday and getting it further down the line, but I really wish they'd make the announcement that it's coming prior to his birthday so it would be "official."

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    There is a lot of rumors going around about the "New Scout!" I really hope that it comes out soon. I did a TR demo in my local riding area and talked with the TR guy about the Scout. He gave up no info but it sounds like they are doing something different with the Scout. I asked about the carbon Scout and his answer was vague.......but he inferred that they were cooking up something juicy......fingers crossed!

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    I thought I found a picture of a new TR bike...possibly a Scout. It looks like its just Sentinel though with some custom stickers. That was exhausting trying to figure out.

    https://www.pinkbike.com/video/506851/


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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    I thought I found a picture of a new TR bike...possibly a Scout. It looks like its just Sentinel though with some custom stickers. That was exhausting trying to figure out.

    https://www.pinkbike.com/video/506851/


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    That looks like a 2018 sentinel. Here's a pic of my old one for comparison.

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    The TR website is almost completely out of Scouts. Only a few sizes left in each build. It cant be much longer now?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!

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    Saw this on Matt Macduffs Instagram last night riding with the transition dudes. For sure a transition. Looks to be carbon and less of a rounded look and more sleek. The new scout??

    edit: I donít know how to upload pictures but if someone else could help me out that would be great. Itís the tan bike in the Instagram stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJurk0315 View Post
    Saw this on Matt McGuffey Instagram last night riding with the transition dudes. For sure a transition. Looks to be carbon and less of a rounded look and more sleek. The new scout??

    edit: I donít know how to upload pictures but if someone else could help me out that would be great. Itís the tan bike in the Instagram stories.

    Youíll need to post a link

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    https://www.instagram.com/matt_macduff/

    the picture is in his his Instagram stories. Donít know how to post pictures otherwise I would

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJurk0315 View Post
    https://www.instagram.com/matt_macduff/

    the picture is in his his Instagram stories. Donít know how to post pictures otherwise I would
    The guy has 1800 posts.....could you try to figure it out?

    All I found was this!


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    Correct. Itís not a direct post where you gather likes and comments type of thing. If you go to his profile and you click on his picture in his bio section of his profile because you get to any of his uploaded pictures it will take you to his stories. There you will be able to click through until you see the one that has him on a ride with the guys from transition. There you will be able to spot out the tan possibly new carbon scout.

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    https://instagram.com/stories/matt_m...=15vkgfcxz5za3

    Canít really tell what kind of bike that is but you may be on to something.


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    Thank you for explaining that......Iím not an Instagram regular.

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    2020 Scout in Carbon coming?-1239452d-a2d1-45b1-add9-14d5089860a8.jpg

    Looks like a Horst Link.....that head-tube though, good catch. Not sure what kind of bike it is. Someone will probably know.

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    Just say no to Broyoda brown.... I'm over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfly View Post
    Just say no to Broyoda brown.... I'm over it.
    They just colored it that way so people would think itís the current color way of this years bike.

    Hide it in plain sight.

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    In the one after that picture at the end it shows him and the bike has a TR logo on it. Looks production ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJurk0315 View Post
    In the one after that picture at the end it shows him and the bike has a TR logo on it. Looks production ready.
    I dont think they will have it the same color.

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    Hiding in plain sight! Tell us about this #CarbonScout

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    I believe we have it folks! This is the carbon scout we have been waiting for! ... and will continue to wait for until they release it. Hopefully soon. I imagine before the new year

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    I believe this is also a new Scout(or some sort of new TR bike) Look at how flat that top tube is. I went through all the current bikes and nothing had that kind of angle on the top tube.

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    Really geeking out now!!!! Yes, I am a bike nerd!

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    @Transitionbikes When will we have this? #WheresmyCarbonScout?!!!

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    This is me when it comes to the Carbon Scout!

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    Is the draw for a Carbon scout, mid-travel 27.5 bike that big?

    I honestly thought that its the sentinel that would be the draw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Is the draw for a Carbon scout, mid-travel 27.5 bike that big?

    I honestly thought that its the sentinel that would be the draw?
    Ride a Scout and youíll understand. Party out front/business out back. Itís a fun bike that tempts you to get rowdy. Itís a very manageable trail bike that punches above its weight.

    I understand the draw to a 29er, but refuse to give up the characteristics of a 27.5er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Is the draw for a Carbon scout, mid-travel 27.5 bike that big?

    I honestly thought that its the sentinel that would be the draw?
    Well at least 10 people on these forums including me ;-)

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    Assuming the colors are the same as the current lineup, that dark grey one might be the new Smuggler other folks were talking about. That's just me guessing, I have no way of knowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GabeF View Post
    Assuming the colors are the same as the current lineup, that dark grey one might be the new Smuggler other folks were talking about. That's just me guessing, I have no way of knowing.
    I can't imagine they are going to keep the same colors for a new model! But you could be right that its a "new" Smuggler painted to match the current colorway.

    Lets hope they are just using current colorway to disguise the bikes underneath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Is the draw for a Carbon scout, mid-travel 27.5 bike that big?

    I honestly thought that its the sentinel that would be the draw?
    The OG Scout is a massively different bike to the Sentinel. If the rumor about the new Scout being 140mm rear is accurate then it will be a fair bit more bike than the original playful Scout, not a real replacement IMO.

    I gave up waiting on the Scout and got myself a carbon Smuggler. It's very playful as well, but the larger wheels take away a little from the berm slashing shenanigans that my OG Limeade Scout had going for it.

    The new Scout, whatever it may be still looks rad though. Even if it has a wee bit more travel, I think it'd just be a case of adapting to that and getting back to looking for every possibility of boosting off small trail obstacles and landing in the next corner. Those were good bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toodles View Post
    The OG Scout is a massively different bike to the Sentinel. If the rumor about the new Scout being 140mm rear is accurate then it will be a fair bit more bike than the original playful Scout, not a real replacement IMO.

    I gave up waiting on the Scout and got myself a carbon Smuggler. It's very playful as well, but the larger wheels take away a little from the berm slashing shenanigans that my OG Limeade Scout had going for it.

    The new Scout, whatever it may be still looks rad though. Even if it has a wee bit more travel, I think it'd just be a case of adapting to that and getting back to looking for every possibility of boosting off small trail obstacles and landing in the next corner. Those were good bikes.
    I demoed the Smuggler and I just didnít ďfeel it.Ē Iím sure if I gave it more time I could have set it up better and gotten used to it, but the OG Scout will always go down in my book as a bike that changed the way I thought about how much fun MTBíing can be. I really am crossing my fingers the bike doesnít grow/change/morph too much. Keep it nimble with short chain stays, short travel out back for poppy/playful feeling......I want to be able to catch air from launching off of acorn tops again!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    I demoed the Smuggler and I just didnít ďfeel it.Ē Iím sure if I gave it more time I could have set it up better and gotten used to it, but the OG Scout will always go down in my book as a bike that changed the way I thought about how much fun MTBíing can be. I really am crossing my fingers the bike doesnít grow/change/morph too much. Keep it nimble with short chain stays, short travel out back for poppy/playful feeling......I want to be able to catch air from launching off of acorn tops again!!!
    Oh I know man. I raced DH for years, slowed down and just got into doing weekend shuttles with the mates. Got really out of shape and decided to get a trail bike to lose weight. I bought a Giant Trance initially but it was horrible and boring and the wheels were flexy as hell. I demo'ed a Scout and couldn't stop smiling, went back and bought one. I did well over 10,000km on that little Scout all over Australia. XC, Enduro and marathon events, even a beginner cyclo-cross race. Skate parks, BMX tracks, National DH courses. I broke a chainstay on it (warrantied) and towards the end it was getting very rough looking, but my girlfriend has stolen it now and left me out looking for a replacement.

    The new alloy frames are like 4kg though which is friggen mental, so I'm giving the carbon Smuggler a go instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toodles View Post
    I broke a chainstay on it (warrantied) and towards the end it was getting very rough looking, but my girlfriend has stolen it now and left me out looking for a replacement.

    The new alloy frames are like 4kg though which is friggen mental, so I'm giving the carbon Smuggler a go instead.
    The guy I sold my Scout to broke a chainstay on that bike too. I think it was common on the OG Giddy Up bikes. I think that's why the weight of the new frames got so heavy. They really beefed up the frames for SBG and I'll admit they were heavy, but it was because of all the reinforcements they did to areas like chainstays and putting dual bearings on those pivots. Frame just looked massive. I had mine just under 32lbs with a GX build, which wasn't horrible.

    I'm hoping the new Scout Carbon is 30lbs or less.

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    So Pinkbike every year does a thing called the Annual Field Test. They go up to Whistler and test a bunch of different bikes in different categories and they say in this video they "only test new chassis."

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-...ield-test.html


    Mike Levy posted the first bike they will be testing and that's the Norco Optic. A short travel 29'er that to me sounds a lot like a Transition Scout or Smuggler. They say the bike is "gravity tuned," or puts the rider in a more centered position........sounds a lot like SBG to me.....!!!

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-...rail-bike.html

    So what does all this mean and why am I posting it here? Well I have a broken wrist from a MTB injury and I can't ride, so I spend an enormous time making things up in my head....here is the latest bit of nonsense I have come up with.

    We saw a new bike of some sort from the pics on Instagram. The new head tube is a giveaway that there's something coming....a new chassis. We don't know yet but whatever it is should be tested along side the new Norco Optic right? A short travel bike that its numbers don't represent its actual capabilities. That sounds like a Scout to me. Mike talks about "what the Optic is for?" Short travel with modern reach and four piston brakes......c'mon this is the Scout!!!!!!

    I'm pretty sure I saw an Instagram post of the TR crew at Whistler a few days ago, although now I cant find it.

    Put all these together

    Pinkbike Annual Field Test (occurs in Whistler each year)

    TR crew hanging in Whistler

    Norco Optic is a copy of the Scout or Smuggler

    We saw a new frame from TR on Instagram

    We got a recipe for a new bike....maybe a Scout, maybe a redesigned Smuggler?

    The bad news is it looks like Pinkbike doesn't publish the Annual Field Test until January?

    The wait is miserable.

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    That new Optic looks awesome. Apparently the new Sight is supposed to be a Sentinel-killer as well.

    Glad to see some of the more economical manufacturers putting out great stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toodles View Post
    That new Optic looks awesome. Apparently the new Sight is supposed to be a Sentinel-killer as well.

    Glad to see some of the more economical manufacturers putting out great stuff like this.
    I see all the Optics are carbon framed for 2020, and they have a build for $3599! That's $400 less than most manufactures entry level carbon builds. Usually its $3999 for an NX build with Revelation or Yari. They are doing it with RockShox Pike Select and RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate. That's pretty damn good.

    I have purchased NX builds and don't mind the NX drivetrain at all. The only real drawback is the weight.....it shifts pretty good for the price. What I dont like about the entry level builds are the fork and shock is usually the lowest level (Yari, Revelation, or Fox Rythm) or something that you have to upgrade immediately.

    The Norco entry level gives you a good platform to start. Carbon frame and a pretty descent fork and shock. Well done! Upgrade the other stuff when you can and its a good deal!

    Unfortunately it has a press fit BB and wagon wheels so its off my radar, however, I like the build kit.

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    Just saw another review on the Optic. Rear triangle is aluminum. Maybe that's how they are keeping the price a little lower?

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    Gonna be a long winter!

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    Looks like we'll be moving in a different direction. My son isn't down for waiting until January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfly View Post
    Looks like we'll be moving in a different direction. My son isn't down for waiting until January.
    That's for the release. Judging by previous releases, they'll announce it in January and it won't be ready for the public until April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    That's for the release. Judging by previous releases, they'll announce it in January and it won't be ready for the public until April.
    I purchased my 2018 Scout SBG after they made the press release in August. Had to wait until they got back in stock because I missed the first batch that went up on their site. Had the new bike in February directly from TR website. So this might be longer wait if they donít announce soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    I purchased my 2018 Scout SBG after they made the press release in August. Had to wait until they got back in stock because I missed the first batch that went up on their site. Had the new bike in February directly from TR website. So this might be longer wait if they donít announce soon.
    I ordered my Smuggler Carbon the day it was announced. It didn't show up until mid-late April I know there were some folks that got them before that, but everyone I know that did was a shop owner or somehow connected to Transition.

    It was a bit frustrating considering the same frame was discounted by 15% in June, 2 months later.

    These smaller manufacturers seem to have more difficulty lining up their releases with availability, I'd generally expect a considerable wait time beyond the time of release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    I ordered my Smuggler Carbon the day it was announced. It didn't show up until mid-late April I know there were some folks that got them before that, but everyone I know that did was a shop owner or somehow connected to Transition.

    It was a bit frustrating considering the same frame was discounted by 15% in June, 2 months later.

    These smaller manufacturers seem to have more difficulty lining up their releases with availability, I'd generally expect a considerable wait time beyond the time of release.
    I agree. If you can wait out all the excitement and new bike desire, buying a bike before the new colorways come out can save you 35% from some manufactures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Is the draw for a Carbon scout, mid-travel 27.5 bike that big?

    I honestly thought that its the sentinel that would be the draw?
    Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehfour View Post
    Is the draw for a Carbon scout, mid-travel 27.5 bike that big?

    I honestly thought that its the sentinel that would be the draw?
    Iím considering about getting 1 of each. How ya like them apples?

    My Pinot Noir needs a little brother.

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    Anyone know what Transition is in the photo below?

    https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/17897117/

    The only non-Trunnion mount Transition bikes are the Scout and Smuggler, but look at the lower shock mount. All the current bikes, the mount runs the full length of the lower portion of the down tube, but this one terminates before it meets the seat tube.

    The rocker link also looks different and is cut out, instead of solid like current models

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Anyone know what Transition is in the photo below?

    https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/17897117/

    The only non-Trunnion mount Transition bikes are the Scout and Smuggler, but look at the lower shock mount. All the current bikes, the mount runs the full length of the lower portion of the down tube, but this one terminates before it meets the seat tube.

    The rocker link also looks different and is cut out, instead of solid like current models
    Looks like a 2017 carbon Patrol

    https://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/frame...et-2017-p18765

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    Quote Originally Posted by toodles View Post
    Looks like a 2017 carbon Patrol
    Ah, yup, you are right :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Anyone know what Transition is in the photo below?

    https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/17897117/

    The only non-Trunnion mount Transition bikes are the Scout and Smuggler, but look at the lower shock mount. All the current bikes, the mount runs the full length of the lower portion of the down tube, but this one terminates before it meets the seat tube.

    The rocker link also looks different and is cut out, instead of solid like current models

    The original Patrol, Scout, and Smuggler were non-trunnion shocks. 2015, 2016.

    As a note, the 2017 Patrol had a modified bell-crank linkage that used the trunnion mounted SuperDeluxe and had a more progressive leverage curve. That was only on the Patrol for one year.

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    No new info!

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    Second hand, but I talked to a guy on an older Scout yesterday who is looking to upgrade and Transition told him to look for something at the end of ski season. Ugh, if that's true then probably close to a year for general availability?

    I'm hoping that's wrong.

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    Must be tough to decide when to launch a new bike. Launch it in the spring and hope it builds enough reviews and excitement to catch the sales in prime riding season, or launch it in the middle of winter, and hope you can get the press to ride it somewhere relatively warm.....Texas, Arizona, etc.

    Larger bike companies might have the press come out to some location thatís rideable year round, but the smaller companies might not be able to do so......especially if itís just one model in their lineup.

    SBG was announced in August...had mine in February.

    Iím not holding out any longer. I need a bike ready to ride as soon as spring hits here in the NE. Riding season is just too damn short to wait for the release of a bike that may or may not be what I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    Must be tough to decide when to launch a new bike. Launch it in the spring and hope it builds enough reviews and excitement to catch the sales in prime riding season, or launch it in the middle of winter, and hope you can get the press to ride it somewhere relatively warm.....Texas, Arizona, etc.

    Larger bike companies might have the press come out to some location thatís rideable year round, but the smaller companies might not be able to do so......especially if itís just one model in their lineup.

    SBG was announced in August...had mine in February.

    Iím not holding out any longer. I need a bike ready to ride as soon as spring hits here in the NE. Riding season is just too damn short to wait for the release of a bike that may or may not be what I need.
    Transition are pretty poor at getting press to review their bikes.
    There are always way fewer review of TR bikes than other makes.
    Hardly anyone has reviewed the vanquish or throttle for example.

    Iíve bought a nukeproof reactor now. Chainstays are 5mm longer but everything else is spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrallen View Post
    Second hand, but I talked to a guy on an older Scout yesterday who is looking to upgrade and Transition told him to look for something at the end of ski season. Ugh, if that's true then probably close to a year for general availability?

    I'm hoping that's wrong.
    In talking with some of the Transition guys at a recent event, I think that February is likely for the announcement with availability in April/May. Conversations were very vague and guarded, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfly View Post
    In talking with some of the Transition guys at a recent event, I think that February is likely for the announcement with availability in April/May. Conversations were very vague and guarded, though.

    This scenario is what I want to avoid. If the bike is a hit the first batch will be sold out in no time, then you gotta wait.

    Oh well, I got something in my crosshairs. Shorter chainstays than the Scout, and ability to run 120,130, or 140mm travel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by richt2000 View Post
    Transition are pretty poor at getting press to review their bikes.
    There are always way fewer review of TR bikes than other makes.
    Hardly anyone has reviewed the vanquish or throttle for example.

    Iíve bought a nukeproof reactor now. Chainstays are 5mm longer but everything else is spot on.
    I find the Reactor pretty interesting. The only review I found said that the suspension was deliberately tuned pretty soft, but that it somehow still pedaled well. What's your impression on how it pedals with the shock open.

    Around here, you are constantly changing from up to down, so having something that pedals decently without having to flip a switch is a must. My SBG Patrol pedals really well for a Horst link bike. While my 2016 Stumpjumper just sucked the life out of you without using the trail mode at least.

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    I am guessing a carbon Scout with 140mm rear travel with a revamped linkage designed for hard hits.
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    Heard from a reliable source that the new Scout is either December or February for launch. There are a few bikes coming, but he couldn't remember what order they were coming out. Also it will be longer travel than the current Scout, so the 140 bet is pretty good it sounds like unless they go bigger.

    Sounds like a new Smuggler with more travel is also coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrallen View Post
    Heard from a reliable source that the new Scout is either December or February for launch. There are a few bikes coming, but he couldn't remember what order they were coming out. Also it will be longer travel than the current Scout, so the 140 bet is pretty good it sounds like unless they go bigger.

    Sounds like a new Smuggler with more travel is also coming.
    Seems weird...150/140 Scout?

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    Pinkbike did not test the Scout in their annual field test. I was hoping that would be the first review.

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    I have an almost perfect condition Large 2017 Carbon Scout I am getting ready to list for sale. If anyone is tired of waiting or prefer the numbers on the older version message me an I can get you details and pics.

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    There is a bike that has been intentionally blurred out on the video from TR Company Trip

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    Check out this cover up!


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    Either a new color blue for an existing bike, or this is a new model.

    Keep it tight but loose!

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    Gee, a bike company on a company riding outing riding future products and blurring them out?

    Some may see conspiracy... I see marketing smarts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Gee, a bike company on a company riding outing riding future products and blurring them out?

    Some may see conspiracy... I see marketing smarts.
    I see new bikes?

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    2020 Scout in Carbon coming?-ccaf70a4-d58b-43c6-9fb3-99c7f2a92bf1.jpg2020 Scout in Carbon coming?-ee69759e-446b-4379-820d-28f992e7e2cc.jpeg2020 Scout in Carbon coming?-cb430e24-d3cd-4fd5-8c07-33b7812cb0c2.jpg


    This is in a new ad for a hoodie... anyone know that bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJurk0315 View Post

    This is in a new ad for a hoodie... anyone know that bike?
    Its a Patrol.

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    What have you heard lately?


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    I was at Transition today (and yesterday) but I felt stupid asking about a carbon Scout, although I'm really curious. Handling on the SBG Scout is great, but it is heavy. They've always told me you don't feel weight on the frame so much (which makes me scratch my head re: why they sell carbon frames w/ NX builds), yet there's carbon versions of the other models. I've never owned a carbon frame, so I demo'd another brand's carbon bike last weekend and yes I noticed a difference, in feel if not in weight.

    Asking TR about a carbon Scout feels like bugging a Subaru dealer about when there's gonna be another hatchback WRX. You just get this look cuz they've heard it a thousand times before.

    I'm ready to switch frames but suspect I it would take half the year to actually get a frame, don't wanna wait that long.

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    Iíve been on a Nukeproof reactor carbon 275 for a month now.
    Fed until of waiting... its an incredible bike and everything I wanted out of the new scout except the logo.

    Iím now tempted to swap out my big bike for a patrol carbon to keep my vanquish happy!

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    Anyone on this thread been on the Guerilla Gravity bikes? Just looked at those after re reading here.

    I tried a Revel Rail which has in between sizing (Patrol ETT is probably too short for me in medium, Rail is 20mm longer). Missing that SBG steering feel but was otherwise very impressed.

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    My size 4 Shred Dogg could be here any month now. Will report back later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitek View Post
    Anyone on this thread been on the Guerilla Gravity bikes? Just looked at those after re reading here.

    I tried a Revel Rail which has in between sizing (Patrol ETT is probably too short for me in medium, Rail is 20mm longer). Missing that SBG steering feel but was otherwise very impressed.

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    I ended up buying a GG Shred Dogg. 150mm front and 140/130mm rear fits what I wanted from a bike. Only 1 test ride so far but with all the adjustability with Geo adjust headset and shock length (you can put a 210x50 or 210x55) to get a rear that has 140mm/130mm or 130mm/120mm it allows you to set up the bike the way you want....in a matter of seconds.
    Transition is a great company and build great bikes.....but check out GG....they have been awesome with everything so far, great customer service and support.

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    Címon. Release this bike already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecooke21 View Post
    Címon. Release this bike already.

    Patience my friend. You shall be rewarded.
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    Big fan of the OG Scout, SBG Scout was good, not as good as OG though. Like the Scout for a trail bike, like Transition as a bike company, but they have to drop a game changing V3! Maybe they got something good cooking, but the SBG Scout isnít on sale yet at their online store? The timing is all wrong, by the time they release and bikes become available it be summer!

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    Canít say too much, but hold on just a wee bit more.
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    Maybe the Bottle Rocket video they just released is tied into the Scout Release? Trying to make a bike that was as polarizing as the Bottle Rocket! I never owned or ridden one, but from the comment section on PB it was a special bike. Hopefully they are leaning that way with the Scout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinboyer View Post
    Canít say too much, but hold on just a wee bit more.
    Well, in fact you aren't saying anything. Still, Transition says they are working on something and we might see more once the winter is past.

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    Meh lots of bikes that kick ass these days. No info but some vague mumbles isn't anything I can plan around. I have been riding a Scout since 2015, but I am stoked for my Shred Dog to show up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostin View Post
    Meh lots of bikes that kick ass these days. No info but some vague mumbles isn't anything I can plan around. I have been riding a Scout since 2015, but I am stoked for my Shred Dog to show up!
    The two rides I have had on my Shred Dogg reminded me of the OG and SBG Scout. Run it at 130mm for OG Scout playfulness, run it at 140mm for that planted SBG feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostin View Post
    Meh lots of bikes that kick ass these days. No info but some vague mumbles isn't anything I can plan around. I have been riding a Scout since 2015, but I am stoked for my Shred Dog to show up!
    A mate of mine just picked up a carbon Norco Optic. Despite the big wheels, it feels as playful as my old Scout. It really is a blast to ride.

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    Interesting if that ended up being the Scout. I like the idea of flip chip/dual setting travel.

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    What happened? They ask you to take it down?
    Yeah, fair call to them. Must suck trying to organize a surprise party for bike companies.

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    Anyone screen shot it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richt2000 View Post
    Anyone screen shot it?
    I got it, itís the tan colored bike from one of the above posts.

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    So letís start the speculation.......we know there is a new bike....could be the new Scout, or not, maybe itís a Sentinel or Smuggler. Either way itís got adjustable travel. A lot of bike manufacturers like Santa Cruz, Guerrilla Gravity, have adjustability in the suspension design. I think that whatever they got itís probably a new suspension/linkage or possibly different iteration of the Horst Link. From the above photos clearly the only post they intentionally blocked out the bike with the PBR bike is the side angle that shows the shock layout. Maybe there going coil? Maybe itís a new Horst link design they havenít used? Weíre close to seeing something new at least.
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    Still a 27.5, right?

    Also, what adjustable travel?
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    says 10mm (62.5); 140mm (57.5) travel (stroke) at a guess. sounds more like a sentinel than a scout.
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    The more I think about the leaked photo it makes a lot more sense that its the new Sentinel. If you go to TR's website the Sentinels are on sale, and they got plenty of sizes available in each build kit. They reduced the Patrols before they dropped the #oncoil models. Gotta get rid of old models first.

    If I had a guess the leaked photo is the new Sentinel with adjustable travel for trail mode and enduro/bike park mode.......and it's #oncoil.

    That leaves the Scout months away from release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POAH View Post
    says 160mm (62.5); 150mm (57.5) travel (stroke) at a guess. sounds more like a sentinel than a scout.
    Metric Trunnion mount shock lenghts.........

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    I have seen the leaked photo (it is still available in Pinkbike) and it says 150-140 (depending on different strokes) instead of 160-150 mentioned before (unless it is a different photo).

    If this is the new Sentinel I wouldn't consider changing from the current one for just extra 10mm (I would really prefer 160mm) unless of course there more changes to geometry, linkage progression etc.

    Anyway let's wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpgalanis View Post
    I have seen the leaked photo (it is still available in Pinkbike) and it says 150-140 (depending on different strokes) instead of 160-150 mentioned before (unless it is a different photo).

    If this is the new Sentinel I wouldn't consider changing from the current one for just extra 10mm (I would really prefer 160mm) unless of course there more changes to geometry, linkage progression etc.

    Anyway let's wait and see.
    The photo looks like a better engineered rocker link, along with the adjustable travel and different tubing design. I'd expect longer reach and wheelbase, at minimum, and hopefully a standard shock size.

    It also looks like a OneUp dropper post, judging by the 'U' on the seatpost that you can see through the clamp and the fact OneUp prints ONEUP in caps down the rear of the seatpost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    So letís start the speculation.......we know there is a new bike....could be the new Scout, or not, maybe itís a Sentinel or Smuggler. Either way itís got adjustable travel. A lot of bike manufacturers like Santa Cruz, Guerrilla Gravity, have adjustability in the suspension design. I think that whatever they got itís probably a new suspension/linkage or possibly different iteration of the Horst Link. From the above photos clearly the only post they intentionally blocked out the bike with the PBR bike is the side angle that shows the shock layout. Maybe there going coil? Maybe itís a new Horst link design they havenít used? Weíre close to seeing something new at least.
    I'll be glad to speculate.
    I'm thinking something modular like GG because two different strokes are listed on the sticker.
    Also, I'd go with Horst link because the sticker still says "Giddy Up."


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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    So letís start the speculation.......we know there is a new bike....could be the new Scout, or not, maybe itís a Sentinel or Smuggler. Either way itís got adjustable travel. A lot of bike manufacturers like Santa Cruz, Guerrilla Gravity, have adjustability in the suspension design. I think that whatever they got itís probably a new suspension/linkage or possibly different iteration of the Horst Link. From the above photos clearly the only post they intentionally blocked out the bike with the PBR bike is the side angle that shows the shock layout. Maybe there going coil? Maybe itís a new Horst link design they havenít used? Weíre close to seeing something new at least.
    Wouldn't that make it Giddyup 3.0?

    Didn't see that on the Sneak Peek picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solar_evolution View Post
    I'll be glad to speculate.
    I'm thinking something modular like GG because two different strokes are listed on the sticker.
    Also, I'd go with Horst link because the sticker still says "Giddy Up."


    People in PB forum say the embargo ends 2/13. We'll know tomorrow!
    Whatís weird about the pic is to achieve the travel you have to have two different stroke lengths to achieve that travel. Maybe they got a way to limit the stroke on the shock. Iím thinking a coil with a spacer/bottom out bumper that would limit the stroke by 5mm? GG you can run two different travel lengths with the same stroke shock. Just move one bolt and you got two different travel lengths and it changes kinematics. This pic has makes me wonder......do you gotta have two different stroke shocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    do you gotta have two different stroke shocks?
    Yeah there's a few other brands that let you chose which shock to run for different travel. If its a new Sentinel, I'd say the numbers look bang on. If that was an option when I got my Patrol, I would have gone the Sentinel. Next bike...

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    We find out something tomorrow!?!?!?

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    pics and geo are on the transition page of PB... and yes, carbon.

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    Reach and wheelbase are longer and ETT is shorter. HA as slack as the Patrol and ST steeper than before.

    Wonder what pricing will be. Too bad the travel isn't adjustable on the fly.

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    Huh... did PB jump the gun a bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Huh... did PB jump the gun a bit?
    I'm not exactly sure how it works but these are from Transitions PB account. They upload the photos to their profile page and they are obviously not hidden when they do. I imagine PB will use them for an article when they do first ride impressions?

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    Images on one of the writers profiles too, launch must be imminent!

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    Shit! Looks awesome.

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    Going to ride the Scout tomorrow. Will take some real time pics and post them up here.

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    3200 for the frame set ... ouch. I'm going to see if I can get a parking lot ride during my lunch break anyway.

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    Damn that's a good looking bike, the blue is stunning.

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    The blue does look good in person. At 5 11 I fit the large well but the medium is easier to throw around. I need to demo to see if I could live with the medium.

    The large doesn't feel overly long compared to the 2018.

    We didn't set up the sag, so it's hard to judge the suspension riding around in the parking lot.

    The stock dropper on medium was too low. Large 210mm was a little tall, I assume it can be lowered a little. Either is much better than the older Scout.

    Can feel the slackness of the HA. If you don't like that floppy feeling... This isn't the bike for you.

    Bike is noticeably lighter than my 34 pound SBG scout... The demos are x01 builds.

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    Build kits looks awesome, most everything I'd choose. Oneup dropper and bars are great, I have them on my Patrol.

    Speaking of the Patrol, these look like slightly longer 150/140mm Patrols. My guess is next year they'll spec them with 160 forks and 150 travel rears and call it the "long dong scout" or something like that.

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    The reviews I've read thus far mention the bike having good pedaling characteristics, which doesn't exactly sound like the previous generations of transition bikes, which prioritized active suspensions and traction over snappy pedaling. I'm curious to hear how the bike pedals out of saddle.

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    I did a quick and dirty analysis in Linkage X3 and it does look like the new kinematics have a little more anti-squat and about twice as much anti-rise (up to around 70% or so) as the previous design. Kinematics look very similar to the new Sight but with a little more anti-squat and anti-rise at least in my rough analysis.

    It seems like this bike is basically a lighter, more playful Sight (27.5 version). The bikes look very similar, and aside from the Scout's shorter chainstays in most sizes, the geometry is almost identical especially if you run 150 rear / 160 front. Kinematics are very similar too, but I think the Scout might be a little more progressive and pedal a little better. Frame weights for the Norco are still unconfirmed last I checked, but it's looking like the Scout frame is probably 0.5 to 1 lb lighter.

    I can see how the geometry might not be for everybody, but I'm really liking the look of the reworked linkage. It looks super clean and seems like the kinematics will be a significant improvement over the old design. I feel like Transition really killed it with the attention to detail on this one too. Can't wait to see what updates they have planned for their other bikes.

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    Love the look of this bike 👌.
    Has anyone heard any rumours that transition is making an Alu version of this at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shlec View Post
    Love the look of this bike 👌.
    Has anyone heard any rumours that transition is making an Alu version of this at all?
    "2020 Scout in Aluminum Coming?"

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