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    A moderate viewpoint from the wilderness crowd

    And it contains a Mike Vandeman post! Sometimes Bill Schneider fron New West magazine straddles the fence. He is getting praises and scorn from both sides on this one, but mostly praises from bike riders. It's a good read and has sparked some debate and some shouting.
    http://www.newwest.net/topic/article...lite/C146/L41/

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    Great read

    Great article! I am going to cross post it over on the Idaho Montana page and see if we can get some discussion going from both of the die-hard camps.

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    I'd been wondering what MV was up to. Well written article. The fact is that a large percentage of people under 40 (and some over) who feel drawn to the wilderness nowadays are getting there on a mtnbike. Hiking clubs, both nationally and in my local area are hurting as membership both ages and declines. There is no question they will be needed a strong presence to step up in the coming years if they are to retain any of teh gains they have made.
    I call for a mandate to allow only road bikes on trails to limit our speeds and increase our line picking skills-FB

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    Thanks

    I hope everyone reads this article. Pragmatic vs. Dogmatic. Probably the best thing we can all do is show our commitment to sustainable trails and just try set a good example. Bikers are under scrutiny on many different fronts right now. Let's not F it up. You would think that another alternative for our overweight couch potato culture would be met with open arms...

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    Same article here in Seattle, complete with MV post as well.

    http://www.crosscut.com/science-envi...ered+vehicles/

    Is common sense ready to rule over trail selfishness. i don't really see it myself, but at least there's discussion.

    i personally have alot of problems with Wilderness designation beyond the fact that bikes are banned. If you're curious i took a neutral moderate stand in this thread just to get ideas out...http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=334662

    But when faced with all the riding opportunities that would be presented, i'm not sure my resistance to further Wilderness Designation, would be or rather "could" be that strong, as far as representing my personal recreational interest.
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    I like the "muscle powered vehicle" idea. I've long believed that the only distinction worth making is motorized versus non-motorized.

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    That was a great, sensible article. If only cooler heads could prevail throughout the process, his proposal for an MPV designation makes so much sense...

    Thanks for posting and sharing the article.
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    ugh. I made the mistake of reading Mike V's post on that article and now my blood pressure is up. Please tell me that people still don't take that guy seriously.
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