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    New Krampus...Frame or complete

    Thinking about a new Krampus (and my first 29+), and wondering which is a better way to go.

    My main concern has to do with the stock wheels and tires. I'm worried the wheels are too heavy and will give me a bad impression of 29+. The dirt wizards look good but Knards or similar are probably better for the majority of my riding.

    I have a drivetrain and brakes so I'm considering a frameset.

    Should I get the complete and sell the takeoff wheels and tires and get something lighter? Or should I just ride the complete and see if I like 29+

    I have a Moonlander that I've ridden on single track so I'm familiar with heavier and bigger wheels. Just want give the 29+ concept a fair chance.





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    what the quan?!
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    I rode a 2017 stock one the other day, well it had a manitou fork on it, and it absolutely ripped! I think you'll be fine with the stock wheels. Swap'm out later if you must.
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    it's such a personal thing. the stock build is decent, durable, but heavy. the gearing on mine was way too high 34/11-36, now it's 30/11-42. no biggie. I'd rather the DW's than the Knards mine came with, which i immediately removed. i swapped out the grips and added a dropper. other than that it's pretty much stock.

    i prefer to build my bikes from the frame up, but i bought this one complete earlier this spring when they were on sale. I'm pretty picky about the parts i choose so i feel like i would have spent 2-3 times as much money if i pieced one together.

    for me it's not the rims that are a let down, it's the rear hub. it's a shimano 529 i think and i killed the freehub in 5 or 6 weeks. i replaced it for $20 and it's been ok so far but i plan on rebuilding the rear wheel this winter with a good hub.

    I didn't have any trouble getting the rabbit holes to be tubeless. rim strip, gorilla tape, done.

    i also understood it was going to be heavier, and it is, but it took me a couple rides to get my head around it. now i don't really care about the weight, it's not a race bike. it doesn't ruin the fun. if your overly concerned with weight you may want to build carbon wheels, but you'll only save ~200g in the rims plus maybe a little in the hub.

    I'm 200 lbs and a strong rider so my 33 lb XL bike isn't that bad. i could invest in a few things and save some weight but it's not a priority right now.

    how tall are you? what do you weigh?
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    I have the Rabbit Hole wheels on my Pugs. One strip of Gorilla tape and two strips of tubeless tape let me set them up tubeless with no issue. As tubeless, I don't notice any more rotational weight from the lighter MTB wheelsets I've used in the past.

    I didn't mind with tubes much, either. The momentum of 29+ is a serious benefit.
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    Are we talking about the 2017 Krampus build with MD40 rims, or the earlier versions with the Rabbit Hole wheels?

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    Build it.

    There is no better feeling than watching your baby take shape. You can pick and choose exactly what you want. If $ is tight, look for used parts. This also may reduce the parts that you need to resell for a loss after you upgrade them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETChipotle View Post
    Are we talking about the 2017 Krampus build with MD40 rims, or the earlier versions with the Rabbit Hole wheels?
    2017 with the MD40.


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    Quote Originally Posted by racefit View Post
    2017 with the MD40.


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    Out of curiosity, what size will you need? (Thinking of switching out my Krampus frameset for something with geometry that works better for me, but I love the Krampus, great bike).
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    Anyone know the weight of the Alex rims?


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    ^ no, the website says the 650b rims are 600g ish, 29" are probably 700 ish. similar to rabbit hole, WTB Scraper, most other aluminum rims...
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    I have always built my Surly's from frame/fork and never regretted it. I like the Rabbit Hole rims for the price and haven't had issues with tubeless setup for the 3yrs I've had the Krampus.
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    Anyone get a weight on the new Krampus frame?

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    Anybody snap some pics from a recent demo?


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    anyone who asks about the weight of a Surly frame isn't going to like the answer.
    Rigid SS 29er
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    SS cyclocross
    Full Sus 29er (Yuck)

    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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