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    New Karate Monkey

    Spotted this on the Surly website this morning. I'll just leave this here...

    https://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey
    Saying that you "hate" or are an "unapologetic critic" of a bike company doesn't make you insightful or interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Prototype View Post
    Spotted this on the Surly website this morning. I'll just leave this here...

    https://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey
    You mean that someone drank too much lemon lime soda and had to use the blue porta potty?

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    Hahaaaaaa , saw what you did there. TBH , I kinda like both of those colors.

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    It appears no changes besides the colors. I really like the blue. I like my "Rhymes with Orange" a lot as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodownzero View Post
    It appears no changes besides the colors. I really like the blue. I like my "Rhymes with Orange" a lot as well.
    Different wheelset and bars.

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    Is Surly going to use a different color for the 29er single speed complete bike ? I keep checking their website and it still lists the stand back purple for the complete bike and the black for the frame only version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankofdad View Post
    Is Surly going to use a different color for the 29er single speed complete bike ? I keep checking their website and it still lists the stand back purple for the complete bike and the black for the frame only version.
    i believe the purple ss was sold out a while back...
    i can't believe I'm riding a bike.

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    My curiosity got the best of me, so I emailed Surly about the 29er single speed as a complete bike, they got back to me as of now no complete 29er ss which makes sense since most would build what they want componet wise when they buy just a frame set.

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    Here is the green

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmrfstar View Post
    You mean that someone drank too much lemon lime soda and had to use the blue porta potty?
    That sounds like something Surly would do on purpose. Anyone remember 'drink more water' Steamroller yellow?

    Glad I have the purple monkey. Though I love the new purple metallic Krampus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    That sounds like something Surly would do on purpose. Anyone remember 'drink more water' Steamroller yellow?

    Glad I have the purple monkey. Though I love the new purple metallic Krampus.
    Is that the 'Stand back purple' that's on the karate monkey ss? That is sharp looking for sure! I wish I had room for one in my stable , haha.
    Saying that you "hate" or are an "unapologetic critic" of a bike company doesn't make you insightful or interesting.

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    I have a 142x12 rear and 100x15 front hubs at present. I know the rear will fit without much hassle, but I might need a tugnut type thing. does the frameset come with boost spacing, and what would be the best solution to making my front hub fit in that fork if so? can I beg Surly to trade me a non-boost fork?

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    fronts are 12x110
    i can't believe I'm riding a bike.

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    It's 110x15. I've been using one of these boost adapters on my front hub for well over a year without any problems.
    https://problemsolversbike.com/produ...ooster_-_k5143

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    Please Surly, just a little bit slacker head tube. Would a 67.5* head angle like on the Instigator hurt anything or just make it a proper modern handling bike?

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    what's the head tube angle on a KM with a 140mm fork? I'll bet it's pretty darn slack.

    not everything needs to be a slacked out endurobro trail sled. the KM is one of the few bikes in its class that still holds its own as an XC bike for the rest of us who don't shuttle run in the mountains.

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    I went pretty slack on the Riot, but came back around to not so slack on my Krampus with a 100mm Yari - better handling on the flat trails of Illinois. Back out East, it'd be scary, I think, but here... perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUGlife View Post
    Please Surly, just a little bit slacker head tube. Would a 67.5* head angle like on the Instigator hurt anything or just make it a proper modern handling bike?
    Yo Bro...just get a Works Components Angleset. You can slacken a 44mm HT up to 2 degrees...I think(at least...maybe it's a bit more than that).

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    Does anybody know if theyíre going to release a 2019 KM SS?

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    No complete SS 29er for 2019, you can purchase a frame set so you can build what you want or purchase a complete 27.5 geared bike and convert it to a SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUGlife View Post
    Please Surly, just a little bit slacker head tube. Would a 67.5* head angle like on the Instigator hurt anything or just make it a proper modern handling bike?
    Meh

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    I always felt like they had the SS on the wrong wheelset. I thought that a 27.5+ SS would be cool.

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    I always felt like they had the SS on the wrong wheelset. I thought that a 27.5+ SS would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman29 View Post
    I always felt like they had the SS on the wrong wheelset. I thought that a 27.5+ SS would be cool.
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    If that had been for sale a couple months ago when the orange ones were sold out and the black ones were the only color, I might have bought one. I'm happy enough with my Timberjack that Surly likely won't have another chance at me for a long time. :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman29 View Post
    I always felt like they had the SS on the wrong wheelset. I thought that a 27.5+ SS would be cool.
    SS mo bettah with big hoops. Roll ovah, contact patch and all that. 27.5+ is and feels smaller. Krampus SS? Now we're talkin.

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    I'm just pissed there won't be a 2019 SS for sale. It's hard enough to get permission from the wife to buy a new bike. Somehow I don't think she'll understand that I'd have to buy a frame . . . . then a wheelset, crankset, brakes, etc!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Interceptor View Post
    I'm just pissed there won't be a 2019 SS for sale. It's hard enough to get permission from the wife to buy a new bike. Somehow I don't think she'll understand that I'd have to buy a frame . . . . then a wheelset, crankset, brakes, etc!!!
    Haha you don't need all that stuff. Just buy the complete then buy a SS spacer kit and a single cog, pull the cassette, pull the derailleur, shifter, cable, and shorten the chain and yer done. Cost less than fifty bucks.👍

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    yeah, but doesn't the shifty shifty km cost quite a bit more than the ss km?
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    New Karate Monkey

    I just put my 2012 SS rigid KM back together again after 2yrs on a FS Stumpjumper. I forgot how telepathic the steering is, the bike just goes where I point it, and how simple a machine the KM is. Yeah, itís a rougher ride but it has also highlighted that Iíve gotten a little sloppy. The one improvement I can see on the new one is the ability to run a dropper post, something Iíve come to enjoy on my FS. The head angle on the 2012 is 71 with an offset of 43mm, the new one 69 with an offset of 47. Iíd hate to lose that nice intuitive feel and replace it with something that has wheel flop, which my Stumpy has a little bit of.

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    Okay, I may have to take back my previous statement. While the 67* Instigator does rip downhill, there are definite drawbacks when climbing, especially climbing tight switchbacks. The Wednesday is at about 68* with suspension fork and is much more nimble in the trees while not giving up much downhill.

    TL;DR---There may be a new KM in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUGlife View Post
    Okay, I may have to take back my previous statement. While the 67* Instigator does rip downhill, there are definite drawbacks when climbing, especially climbing tight switchbacks. The Wednesday is at about 68* with suspension fork and is much more nimble in the trees while not giving up much downhill.

    TL;DR---There may be a new KM in the future.
    Ding ding ding!!!! Slack HTA is actually pretty dang limiting in many trail riding scenarios. I went 68 degree HTA with a Honzo and enjoyed it very much, until I sold that and got a specialized Epic HT with 69.8 degrees HTA. Quicker and more nimble than the honzo in so many situations and the Epic climbs way better and just generally pedals way better. So the koolaid that was 68 and 415 chainstays was trumped by 69.8 and 430 chainstays. The terrain is very technical and steep.

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    It just got real today

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtl3341 View Post
    It just got real today

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    That colour seems to be very similar to the Pea Lime Pie Troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtl3341 View Post
    It just got real today

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    More pics of paint please


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    Quote Originally Posted by racefit View Post
    More pics of paint please


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    Whatcha want to see on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtl3341 View Post
    Whatcha want to see on it?
    Unwrapped and out of the box would be nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Prototype View Post
    Is that the 'Stand back purple' that's on the karate monkey ss? That is sharp looking for sure! I wish I had room for one in my stable , haha.
    Yeah, it is! Very colorful. I should post an updated photo.
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    How much does the new geared KM sell for?
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    I wonder why they switched from the Alex rims to Scrapers (or "scrappers" as they call them)?

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    I'm honestly really surprised I'm still on my Alex MD40... it started denting and going wobbly in the first few rides, but I keep truing it and it keeps running... so I ride it.

    The MD40 is an OEM only rim in most sizes. The Scraper is a rim I pretty much only hear good things about... seems like an upgrade to me.

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    Amazon has 27.5 Mulefut 50 rims for $34. Sun Ringle must be discontinuing that rim.

    I think the Mulefut is a nice strong rim. You can also get a 148x12 Mulefut 50 27.5 rear wheel for $150 and a front for $100. You can seal mulefuts rather well with gorilla tap on the inside if you want tubeless.

    This is not 27.5 related, but I had a pair of Stan's Hugo's on my Niner ROS 9 Plus. I replaced them with Mulefut 50 29. Those Stan Hugo's I think were the worst rim ever designed. If you ever look at a crosscut picture of the rim you can see what I mean.

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    Still looking for any riding impressions of the new KM with 29" wheels. Anybody ride one yet?

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    It's not all that new... Check the KM thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blue Sky View Post
    Still looking for any riding impressions of the new KM with 29" wheels. Anybody ride one yet?
    I love mine. It's not the lightest mtb in the fleet nor is it the fastest. It is by far the funnest. What kind of ride impression were you looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUGlife View Post
    Okay, I may have to take back my previous statement. While the 67* Instigator does rip downhill, there are definite drawbacks when climbing, especially climbing tight switchbacks. The Wednesday is at about 68* with suspension fork and is much more nimble in the trees while not giving up much downhill.

    TL;DR---There may be a new KM in the future.
    KM with a 140 for splits the difference. I have never really wished for a steeper HA. I have ridden slacker bikes and it seems like 65* would be too slack for climbing. 66-68 seems like where it's at, for me.

    Love my KM. Missing riding it after work now that daylight savings kicked in.

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