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    Let's see your KM builds

    I'm about ready to order my Dark Black Karate Monkey frame and have been building it up on paper. I couldn't find any one thread with a lot of KM pictures on it, so if you don't mind post up some pics so I can get some ideas. Descriptions too if you want.

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    Dirty Skid Mark Brown
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    ^ wow, that's a beauty! I dislike my boring black frame and I miss my fat 2.35 rampages but this is my current winter commuter, it rocks hard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by surlywhore
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    Very Nice Is that a 16" frame? Love the color; mine is pearl-coffee.

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    Pitch Black 18" frame
    Surly Hubs (fixed gear)
    BB7 disc brakes
    RotoR cranks
    Echo Trials flat bar (29" wide)
    Dangerboy levers
    PurelyCustom HS spacer, top cap and valve caps.

    I liked the "coffee metallic", but couldn't get past the name of skid mark brown
    Husker Blu is a good color, but if I was buying now, I'd probably go with Chum Red - but then I'd have to figure out a non-red accent color for it.

    PS: I started with a standard SRAM 3x9 drivetrain - then added a Lefty, all of which is now on my FS29er.
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    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    22" black beauty

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    Very nice!

    Greenlightgo - is that a Mary bar, or a Fleegle?

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    Raceface crank
    lx, xt, xtr mix of parts
    monkeybar carbon bar
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    brooks b17
    racing ralphs
    new wheels on order from mikesee (tax refund by by)
    extra set of wheels with Big Apples for running paved paths

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    Quote Originally Posted by wh1tesurly ss
    Greenlightgo - is that a Mary bar, or a Fleegle?
    Neither - Titec J-bar. I previously spent about 10 months on my rigid Monocog Flight with a Titec H-bar. My wife has that bar now so I went for the new J-bar since I had the right length Thomson X4 stem in my spare parts bin. I didn't need the rise either.

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    Karate-Kommuter

    Mine's the POS behind it, but I really like this singlespeed commuter I saw last week.
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    Here's a pic of my medium KM. I stripped it down and repainted it before ever building it up. A few things have changed since this picture was taken when I got it in 2005, but I think it's still a god picture.
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    the g2 fork @ 100mm is SWEET but i still need to play with the bar/stem combo... it's not pretty but considering i've got less then $700 into the entire rig it's amazing...




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    Sweet,Donalson!!!
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    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/FN5-ch3-LNYx5ZPi1Sd3nQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCPHLvrud9oOOXg&feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.ggpht.com/_A06QdYL6xw8/SePpGEp_EZI/AAAAAAAAFBU/U44IusCfb4g/s800/DSCI0010.JPG" /></a>

    The details have changed, but the frame remains the same. I'm particularly (re)psyched on the fun of such a great frame. So I'll indulge myself in the details:

    18" brown frame
    UN-54 BB, 165mm 94 bcd Race Face DH cranks, 30t ring
    Surly hubs, 32h, DT Swiss comps, Mustang front rim, Open Pro rear, 18t Eno freewheel.
    XDX front, Nano rear. Tubeless.
    90mm Thomson X4, 800mm Kore bar, old Avid levers, small Ergon GP1s.
    BB7 front, Tektro Oryx rear.
    Thomson post, saddle soon to be a Gobi XM.

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    It's a great, great bike.

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    Its seen many, many builds. Touring, ss, mountain bike, commuter, road bike.
    It is currently in spring snow-slush meltout town mode.
    Nokian studs switched out yesterday for the exi's.
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    what rims are those?... and I WANT GROOVY LUV
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    The rims are old 44mm 29er snowcats - unavailable now.
    The bars are Ti from www.speedwaycyclesak.com
    Speedway also has similar (& much better) 50mm 29er rims in stock

    Greenlightgo - the frame bag is Epic Designs - It what puts my bread on the table
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    Post Shake-down ride changes.
    Went back to the KM fork - handling is much more intuitive than with the Jamis Exile fork. Looks better too -






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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
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    Went back to the KM fork - handling is much more intuitive than with the Jamis Exile fork. Looks better too -


    I agree- I keep waffling between 1x9 and SS on mine, but I wish Salsa offered the cro-moto grande with rim-brake studs. The KM fork is pretty, well, rigid Nice ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearbait
    Its seen many, many builds. Touring, ss, mountain bike, commuter, road bike.
    It is currently in spring snow-slush meltout town mode.
    Nokian studs switched out yesterday for the exi's.
    2 x 8
    Nice bag - would like to know more about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by dankilling
    The KM fork is pretty, well, rigid
    True - but it fits right in with the KM personality and purpose. IMO - it enhances a fat rim/tire setup and I don't experience any brake chatter, I was a bit spooked the first time I saw my taper bladed rigid fork on the Monocog Flight flex back during hard braking .
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    I went for another ride last night. The bike rode great. I need a longer stem with a bit of rise to it now though. The steerer tube on the KM for was cut pretty short by the previous owner who used this bike in the regional Root 66 XC race series.

    Also some higher volume tires would be a nice add on as well. A fun ride again though - real fun. So nice to have trails so close to home for those "crap I got home later than I expected" post work rides.

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    got my 18"chum red monkey finish today,rims and tyres are halo freedom & twinrail,parts are 97 XT/LX and hope from an old school cannondale/new build i had built but hardly used.will be 2x9 and lose the big ring when i get a bashring,semi slicks for 50-60 mile days in summer with some easy trails and knobblys on for winter mudplugging,
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    hope pro2 hubs,halo freedom rims,halo twinrail tyres
    cheap but waggle free suspension post
    sdg seat,to be replaced with a brooks pro ti when i can afford it!
    hope 90mm stem,fsa 50mm bars,ergon grips
    basicly the same build as my pugsley started out though i hope to eventully fit a alfine rear hub and dynamo front hub
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    Mine

    Sort of just realized I've owned this bike longer than any (of many) others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    I went for another ride last night. The bike rode great. I need a longer stem with a bit of rise to it now though. The steerer tube on the KM for was cut pretty short by the previous owner who used this bike in the regional Root 66 XC race series.

    Also some higher volume tires would be a nice add on as well. A fun ride again though - real fun. So nice to have trails so close to home for those "crap I got home later than I expected" post work rides.
    I got some intel that the 2.4 Ardent will be ready by Interbike.
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    I picked up some Weirwolf 2.55s from CB2 and installed them.

    I was a little bit dissapointed in their size once mounted up to my Syncros rims. I thought they'd be wider. They are however pretty "tall" and should be nice. I haven't found out yet because we've been besieged by rain here in CT all week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    I picked up some Weirwolf 2.55s from CB2 and installed them.

    I was a little bit dissapointed in their size once mounted up to my Syncros rims. I thought they'd be wider. They are however pretty "tall" and should be nice. I haven't found out yet because we've been besieged by rain here in CT all week.
    I get 60mm casing width on my Gordos, my bet is your around 57-58. FWIW, Nano is a hair over 55, close enough to call it 56 on the Gordo in the rear. WW front and Nano rear is a classic combo - wish I would have picked up a Nano much sooner in my 29er riding. I managed to score a new pair (still on the cards) for $15.50 on Ebay (yes, including shipping). More than enough tire front and rear for South Florida.
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    We need Coastkid to edit his post so this thread isn't streched out a mile wide any longer.

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    ...are all his pics showing up next to each other or what?... my screen has no problems with it...
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    yeah on my screen they stretch across rather than down.

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    IE or firefox?
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    The latest incarnation of my singlespeed commuter..


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    Got me to 7th place in the race today Always fun to see everyone out there on their mega-$$$ rigs with their bright day-glo jerseys.

    Only changes right now from the picture are M540 pedals and a geax suargo front tire. The close-ratio ultegra cassette is fun. My thinking is, if SSers can push 32-20 combos, then surely I can push a 27t.
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    Love the bike top tube a little shore so I will be changing to a thomson setback post

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    Here is mine. I just picked it up from a fellow forumite.



    For some reason I like this one

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    All right, here's a silly question, but I have to ask and see what everyone's doing..............How do you run the derailleur cables along the DT - do you run them around the opposite side to the shifter and cross them or Do you run them on the same side as shifters and run them straight?? What position do you have the plastic cable guide under the BB in - close to the center or off to the drive side??

    I have to ask, 'cause no matter what I do I cannot get my KM to shift cleanly through the cassette Doesn't matter what cassette - 25-12/105, 34-11XT, 34-11 PG990 or when I changed shifters out to new LX shifters or new XT RD. It drives me bonkers that no matter what I do I either get some delay around middle of the cassette either shifting up or down depending on if I add or release cable tension

    FYI I run my cables on the same side as the shifters and straight along the DT, no crossing.
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    Just finished my Monkey Build. Replacing my GT Peace 9r.
    Med Black Karate Monkey
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    32t Hone cranks and BB
    Avid bb7 185 ft, 160 r.
    Weirwolf lt front tire, nano rear.
    My fav- my hand polished Endless 20t cog

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    Nice looks similar to mine

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    Some great builds here - thanks for sharing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangerthanmilhouse
    Just finished my Monkey Build. Replacing my GT Peace 9r.
    Med Black Karate Monkey
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    I9 classic rear hub on Bonty Duster rim
    32t Hone cranks and BB
    Avid bb7 185 ft, 160 r.
    Weirwolf lt front tire, nano rear.
    My fav- my hand polished Endless 20t cog


    Nice bike, now we've got to go get it dirty on Heartbreak!!!!!

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    Love this thread and gives me inspiration for my build. I was contemplating between the KM and Jabberwocky, but this has convinced me to go KM. Chum Bucket Red, please! I'm going to transfer all the parts from the Monocog and sell that frame.

    fxdwhl - I always admire people that go fixed off-road. I have a fixed road bike, but I don't think I'll ever brave going fixed in the woods. Nice bike, BTW.

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    I got my Monkey to build into a snow bike:



    That's the original build -- fixed gear with Surly hubs, and Kris Holm rims. I ran it SS for a while as well.

    Then late last year I built a new wheelset with Gordo Rims, Hope hubs, and Racing Ralph 2.4s. I used the nearly-dishless SS version of the rear hub, and stuck the carrier portion of an XT cassette on there, along with one more cog to make a 1x6 drivetrain. I could easily go back to fixed-gear with a drilled cog, or SS with a splined one.

    Something about this bike just invites me to play with its configuration. I think it might get turned into a monstercrosser/drop bar MTB soon. I've got most of the required parts sitting around already...

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    From about a week ago. Also where the did some "trail work" and created a four foot Single track.

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    I took some inspiration from fxdwhl and YoungerNow. Another fixie-monkey is born! I love how versatile this bike is....its been singlespeed, drop bars, geared, rigid, suspended forked, disk, calipered, road, trail, race, commuter.....and on and on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankilling
    I took some inspiration from fxdwhl and YoungerNow. Another fixie-monkey is born! I love how versatile this bike is....its been singlespeed, drop bars, geared, rigid, suspended forked, disk, calipered, road, trail, race, commuter.....and on and on...

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    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SoQ7WQjmEh...7-1-09+002.jpg


    Set up for RAGBRAI. I'll add 2 small panniers and be riding self contained for the week.

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    LOL, self contained is the only way to ride RAGBRAI. Can't help but chuckle at all the guys on stick bikes who seem to think it's a race! One big rolling party gotta love it!

    happy trails...

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    bringing it back

    I freakin love my bike.

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    I camped not too much further than my first post above (with the snow). Nice day.

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    im looking forward to spring and summers lighter evenings riding the local trails...get the big wheels rolling

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    Updated with purple blingy stuff and a Ti seatpost - this is now my only MTB

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    is that the origin8 Off road (OR) bar? or jsut standard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by donalson
    is that the origin8 Off road (OR) bar? or jsut standard...
    Asked me?
    On my KM its an On One Mary Bar.

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    haha ya... sorry I see those and I go right into thinking origin 8... not that I can't see the "on-one" logo... sorry about that ... looks good all the same
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    Mine at lunch in Wisconsin last Monday (I think)

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    18" km frame
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    my favorite mtb ive owned, and currently the only one i own.

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    I love this thread! My Karate Monkey is my favorite bike. Every time I open this thread I want to leave my office and ride. Here is an updated photo of mine.


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    Here's mine - an '09 complete that I've tweaked into a 1x9 for the summer. Built up a new rear wheel on an XT disc hub that I got for free (used another Delgado rim). Pulled set of old Suntour thumbies off a junked mtn bike. I've run it with Midge bars which I like quite a bit, will probably go back to those eventually. Not sure if I will ever drop the $$ for a decent suspension fork, I am a cheap bastage.
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    Holmes - looks like a great place to ride the KM!
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    Thanks - that was taken up at the Soapstone Prairie natural area, about an hour north of Ft. Collins CO. Really mellow single track / double track / ranch roads - very rigid bike friendly.

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    Just sharing...


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    Finally got motivated and built one up. Lovin it so far, real dirt time will follow in the next couple weeks, as soon as the RAGBRAI rush ends in Sioux City and I can get out of the shop!

    happy trails...

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    My monkey continues to evolve. Put the Midge bars back on it, got a set of LX cranks for cheap, now running it as a 3x9. As I discovered front derailleurs on the KM are kinda finicky - picked up an old LX FD (M571 old style recommended by Surly) for 10 bucks to fix it up.

    Went up Old Flowers Road west of Ft. Collins over the weekend - couple of tough climbs, the granny gear was definitely welcome, and the big ring came in handy on the long dirt road descent back to the car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    As I discovered front derailleurs on the KM are kinda finicky - picked up an old LX FD (M571 old style recommended by Surly) for 10 bucks to fix it up.
    Did the same - but when I built up my KM I recognized that a new SLX front derailleur did a very good job. They seem to be different to other Shimano front derailleurs

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    For those of you with KM's that are not suspension corrected....what length fork did you get, and was there any offset?

    edit: I heard back from Surly that the original KMs were suspension corrected, but later models had the downtube adjusted to fit the crown of suspension forks.
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    Stock KM fork and lovin it!!!!

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    Here mine.... It already has changed from 3 x 9 to single to 1 x 9... I love how easy this bike is to change

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsullivan
    Here mine.... It already has changed from 3 x 9 to single to 1 x 9... I love how easy this bike is to change
    How do you like the Drake? 80mm? I think about picking one of these up every time they go on sale.

    Nice build

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    heres my KM with bike packing gear...





    full set up here; https://coastkid.blogspot.com/2010/07/packed-to-go.html

    and a film...

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    The Drake feels good for a lower cost fork.... Yes it is 80mm.. If you come across one on sale grab it. It does the job required. Really helps on a rougher decent

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastkid71
    heres my KM with bike packing gear...

    Why don't you use a carrier and bikebags?
    I won't like it, if I cannot see the front wheel...

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    hi there, with a bike packing set up alot of wieght is cental to the BB- stove,pot and food mostly, with a rack there is something else to break and traveling light all the room isnt really needed withthe frame bag,
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    KM2x2

    Here's my new ride.
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    This is the only material possession I own that someone will have to pry from my cold dead hands.

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    Posted a couple of times allready but hey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty W.
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    Looking good

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    KM at Coyote Ridge

    I decided that Midge Bars (at least with the setup on my KM) were a bit too hard on my lower back for off-roading, so I reluctantly swapped them out for a set of H-Bars (w/ Paul Thumbies). Seriously funky looking but oh-so-comfy. And Paul Thumbies are a *great* way to go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Westrider7


    This is the only material possession I own that someone will have to pry from my cold dead hands.

    Looking sweet!

    Okay, question for those listening. Some are using the Tugnutt chain tensioner with their SS setups and some are not. What's the thinking when setting up SS on the Monkey - is the Tugnutt needed or not?

    BB (thinking about trying SS on my KM...... )

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    regarding tuggnut

    Bruce,


    I run my KM as a single speed exclusively. I tried it as a 1x9. It works great but I don't care for gears.

    I use a chain tug (not a tuggnut but one from an On-One Inbred) on the drive side. I find that this really helps in a couple of ways.

    - it allows you to quickly re-align the wheel and ensure that it's square. install the drive side with the tug, adjust the non-drive side until there's no disc brake rub and....

    - I use it for both the quick release wheel and bolt on wheel that have seen use on the KM. I do so for the reason listed above.

    - You can get away with no tug if you use a bolt on rear but I always found that I had slippage with just a quick release wheel.

    One very nice aspect of the tugnutt is the spacer that comes with it. It ensures that if you use a quick release, the axle/skewer is lined up and doesn't have any slop . For this reason, I think you should have one if you plan to use a QR skewer.

    I hope that helps.

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    Here's mine on the CT last year near Hotel Draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Looking sweet!

    Okay, question for those listening. Some are using the Tugnutt chain tensioner with their SS setups and some are not. What's the thinking when setting up SS on the Monkey - is the Tugnutt needed or not?

    BB (thinking about trying SS on my KM...... )
    I use two (one on each side) on mine but could get away without it b/c I use bolt on hubs. That being said, I find it makes centering the wheel easier for me (and I'm a closet Type A which must have symmetry). They are not WW approved so don't hesitate to use some Redline tugs, etc.

    If I had QR hubs - I'd definitely use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Okay, question for those listening. Some are using the Tugnutt chain tensioner with their SS setups and some are not. What's the thinking when setting up SS on the Monkey - is the Tugnutt needed or not?
    Tugnut is probably not necessary with a standard SS. I use two on mine, as I'm running a 2x2 setup - dos freewheel in back, two chainwheels in front. The tugnuts make it easier to line everything up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I use two (one on each side) on mine but could get away without it b/c I use bolt on hubs. That being said, I find it makes centering the wheel easier for me (and I'm a closet Type A which must have symmetry). They are not WW approved so don't hesitate to use some Redline tugs, etc.

    If I had QR hubs - I'd definitely use them.
    Thanks guys. Looks like I will order a Tuggnut today (and a proper chain).

    My experiment at the moment is just using my regular QR hub/wheel converted with one of the Gusset SS conversion kits to get an idea and some trail time with a SS. The kit came with a 16 and an 18T cog. I put the 16T on with a 29T chainring to get me close to the gear inch de facto starting standard of 52.

    BB

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    Here's a pic of my KM:



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    Allready posted this bike but in the spirit of what the monkey is all about ( changeabilty ),here it is after trip to Mawson Trail in South Australia
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Thanks guys. Looks like I will order a Tuggnut today (and a proper chain).

    My experiment at the moment is just using my regular QR hub/wheel converted with one of the Gusset SS conversion kits to get an idea and some trail time with a SS. The kit came with a 16 and an 18T cog. I put the 16T on with a 29T chainring to get me close to the gear inch de facto starting standard of 52.

    BB
    You've had that KM for how long and you're just now setting it up single!

    I had never calculated it out before, but most of the guys I know running singles in DSM are running a 34-17 or 18. According to the calculator that's 52-55. Sounds like you're doing it right

    Have fun and let us know how you like it with one gear.

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    My Geared' 18" Red KM, dropping the triple crank soon, going 1x9 in a week or two.

    Couple of days after completion - had WTB Exiwolf 2.3 wirebead, horrible front tire btw.



    1 month later after a dozen+ hours on fire roads and some light singletrack, changed to Maxxis ardent 2.25 tires, broke and replaced a derailer. But one hell of a great bike!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ianick
    You've had that KM for how long and you're just now setting it up single!
    Yup. Bought it in 2003 and just now giving one gear a whirl. Perfect for my dog walks at the moment (just using a QR as my "tensioner"). Once the Tuggnut arrives, I'll take it out on the dirt.

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    Now with 30mm less spacers and a beautimous working Ragley Carnegie's bar. Awesome for rigid SS'ing.

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    I like that I could drop 30+mm of spacers and still get the bars just a tick below saddle height (my preferred location).

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    Nice! Ive been thinking of getting the Carnegies since they seem to provide an excellent compromise between the more conventional bars and the extreme sweep bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenTwo
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    Nice! Ive been thinking of getting the Carnegies since they seem to provide an excellent compromise between the more conventional bars and the extreme sweep bars.
    I've had them in the fleet for a while - they were on my wife's bike just staring me in the face. I like the 'alt' bar, have run the Titec H-bar or J-bar for the past 3 years on my singlespeed bikes.

    The Carnegie's bar has a great feel to it and carving a corner with this set of handlebars is fantastic - not sure how they accomplished that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I've had them in the fleet for a while - they were on my wife's bike just staring me in the face. I like the 'alt' bar, have run the Titec H-bar or J-bar for the past 3 years on my singlespeed bikes.

    The Carnegie's bar has a great feel to it and carving a corner with this set of handlebars is fantastic - not sure how they accomplished that.

    My KM is currently equipped with a Salsa 17degree sweep Pro Moto flat bar . This is the sweepiest bar I have ever used , Glad I picked this up for my first 29er . .

    They are not equipped with designs that negate a longer stem, so I am also running them with 100mm Thomson Elite X4s now .

    I will post pictures of my karate monkey soon

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    My 18" KM's conversion to 1x9 finished, used a Surly SS Chainring 33t and MRP 1.x chain guide, cost was about $75, and couldnt be any happier atm. Now with that Front Derailer gone another water bottle cage incoming. Might remove the monkeynuts and experiment with losing 10mm+ of chainstay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by riiz
    My 18" KM's conversion to 1x9 finished, used a Surly SS Chainring 33t and MRP 1.x chain guide, cost was about $75, and couldnt be any happier atm. Now with that Front Derailer gone another water bottle cage incoming. Might remove the monkeynuts and experiment with losing 10mm+ of chainstay.

    Nice setup! You'll get the best mud clearance on that 2.4 Ardent by keeping the monkey nuts.
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    Those are actually the 2.25 Ardents, but I might play around with a 2.4 on the front in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riiz
    Those are actually the 2.25 Ardents, but I might play around with a 2.4 on the front in the near future.
    My Monkey

    2.4 Ardent in the front, 2.1 WTB motoraptor in the rear.

    Other specs:
    Syntace Vector Carbon 12* 685mm bar
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    WTB wheels with Shimano hubs
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    I will be posting a thorough build as the bike transforms into a budget blinglespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty W.
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    what tires are those? size?

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    *Finally* got a working Reba SL fork after going through four of them in about two weeks. It all worked out rather well as I also got the full Push rebuild for free (paid for by the LBS where I bought the fork).

    Also picked up some Velocity Blunts / XT wheels off fleabay (actually through same LBS) for cheap. Waiting on some Bontrager rims strips / valves to try a tubeless conversion.

    I've gotten in two good rides with this setup, it feels *great*.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Thanks guys. Looks like I will order a Tuggnut today (and a proper chain).

    My experiment at the moment is just using my regular QR hub/wheel converted with one of the Gusset SS conversion kits to get an idea and some trail time with a SS. The kit came with a 16 and an 18T cog. I put the 16T on with a 29T chainring to get me close to the gear inch de facto starting standard of 52.

    BB
    Been messing around on it for a month now. I finally pulled out the camera to take a few shots today. Hard to believe I've had this frame since 2003 and here it is 8 years later for the first try at SS'ing it.

    25.08 pounds with the heavy Slime filled tubes, Thudbuster, Ardent 2.4's and boat anchor pedals. She's not going to win any beauty contests, but it's nice to have in the bike stable.

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    How do you like the thudbuster? I've been toying with the idea of adding one to my KM.

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    I'm running an LT thudbuster with the same Ardent 2.4 on the rear.

    I like it a lot. The KM rides harsher than most of the other 29ers I've owned. I think it's a combination of short chainstays and minimal seat post and my weight (<160).

    With the thud it's a non-issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    How do you like the thudbuster? I've been toying with the idea of adding one to my KM.
    Takes the edge off - at least the ST version. I've tried the LT version on my KM as well (nice and plush), but the saddle was already mounted to the ST, so I just used it for the build. SS, rigid, and a standard seatpost is a nice simple combo, but ouch!!! I'm too used to full suspension 29"ers to not have something provide some flex on the KM.

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    Thanks guys - I may just have to try a thudbuster on the KM at some point. Although I am seriously contemplating a FS rig for next season so it might be moot.

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    Bruce - that's a pure fun machine build there - nice job!
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    Out on Continental Divide Trail. September 2010.



    2003 model. On 3rd color. Great bike.

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    had for couple months and still really enjoying
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    Couple action shots from today on the monkey...



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    I swapped over most of the parts from my 05 Skid Mark KM. New Features for 2011 include a lower stand over height, revised rear drop out, and new cable routings. I'm really digging the full length cables and increased stand over.

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    Oh my.. That looks really nice. Not sure if it's the new paintwork, but that Surly KM is one of the nicest Ive ever seen .

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    That is EXACTLY what I want! Full length cables UNDER the top tube with three cable holddowns. The lower standover isn't bad either. I have been planning on customizing my KM by cutting off the brakes bosses and cable guides, adding cables holddowns under the top tube, and then having the frame prepped and powdercoated a "special" color.

    huevos, what is different about the drop outs? This is the first time I have heard anything about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1
    huevos, what is different about the drop outs? This is the first time I have heard anything about them.
    The rear drop out was changed to allow for removal of the rear wheel without loosening the brake caliper bolts. With a standard 160mm rotor it should work flawlessly, with my 200mm rotor on the back, i found I needed to add some spacers on the rear caliper to get the rear wheel in and out...i may just go to a smaller rotor because Im a little worried the mounting bolts dont have enough bite with the spacers. Ill try to post some pics of the difference if I get a chance this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huevos

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    Very nice looking Battleship Gray!

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    @Huevos Just ordered a Battleship grey KM yesterday. What size frame do you ride?

    Sweet color!

    Amazing, after 7 (!) years of thinking about the KM i finally jumped in :-) Will post some pictures when it arives (probably mid december)

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    Used Monkey frame
    Syntace Vector bar
    Avid BB7 brakes
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Shimano XT crankset (180mm)
    Crank Bros Mallet 2 pedals
    Shimano/WTB wheelset
    Maxxis Ardents 2.4 front and back

    I still need to replace the black Thomson seatpost with silver Thomson seatpost. Both the front and back wheels need to be rebuilt.

    Plans for the future:
    Modify frame - replace top tube cable stops with cable holddowns under the top tube, cut off brake bosses, powdercoat frame, fork, and stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    @Huevos Just ordered a Battleship grey KM yesterday. What size frame do you ride?

    Sweet color!

    Amazing, after 7 (!) years of thinking about the KM i finally jumped in :-) Will post some pictures when it arives (probably mid december)
    mine is a 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    mine is a 22.
    Very interesting. The standover on the new 22" visually appears to be the same as the older 20". My Monkey is a 20" and a line drawn from the top tube intersects the top of the tire at the same spot as your 22".

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    Campstove Karate Monkey

    Great versatile bike
    22" Frame
    Halo Freedom Disc
    XT 180mm
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    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1
    Very interesting. The standover on the new 22" visually appears to be the same as the older 20". My Monkey is a 20" and a line drawn from the top tube intersects the top of the tire at the same spot as your 22".
    Hence my question. I thought for sure it was a 20" I really like the look of the new frame. It looks definitely more compact. Keep them new-frame pictures coming ;-) And ofcourse don't hold back any pictures of the older ones :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdee
    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
    Very nice new monkey
    Is that a medium?
    When trails gets tougher, Just stand up and deliver.

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    How does she ride?

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    That should be a medium, but it certainly looks like my 16" Monkey !



    Ill be grabbing one of these newly designed KM, maybe once the warranty on this one(08) is over .

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    Hence my question. I thought for sure it was a 20" I really like the look of the new frame. It looks definitely more compact. Keep them new-frame pictures coming ;-) And ofcourse don't hold back any pictures of the older ones :-)
    The stand over on the 22" 2011 KM is .2 inches higher than the stand over on the earlier 20" KMs.

    see: http://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey_complete/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn
    Very nice new monkey
    Is that a medium?
    Yep, it's an 18". I had a 2003 20" and the medium fits and feels way better.
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    Oh oh

    Wrong place to post. Sorry, please remove.
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    KM 2011 Build list

    Hi there,

    Thought i post my KM SS build list of the stuff i just ordered. Obviously i don't have any picures yet because, well ... i don't have the bike yet. I'm experimenting with Misfit Psycles parts (stem, post and bars) just because i like the company and the website. There, ehh ... different. Will post my findings of these parts later. While not a weight weenie (obviously) i'm aiming between 11-12 KG (24-26 lbs) fully build. Any experts who can confirm i'm on the right rack with this range?

    The Surly grey in combination with all the polished silver parts and the brown saddle/grips should make a nice combination.

    Now the waiting game begins. ETA half december. Pictures in due time...

    By the way, love this thread! Great KM's Great pictures. Hope i can post some soon.

    Right now the weather is just about perfect ... great trails just a mile from my house, no wind, clear skies, crisp temperature ... and i'm ... behind my computer. Not the place i want to be right now :-)

    Frame 2011 20" Surly Karate Monkey Grey
    Clamp Surly Silver
    Fork Surly 2011 Karate Monkey Grey
    Headset Chris King NoThreadset Silver
    Bracket Phil Wood
    Cranks Middleburn + Spider silver
    Pedals Shimano PDA 530 silver
    Chainring Middleburn 36t
    Chain KMC X1
    Brakes BB7 185mm/160mm
    Brake Levers Avid SL levers
    Wheels Chris King Singlespeed silver - DT Comp -Salsa Semi Silver + CK 19t
    Cog See wheels
    Tires WTB Weirwolf 2.55
    Tubes Schwalbe
    seatpost MisFit 350mm silver
    Saddle Brooks Swift brown
    Stem MisFit Fugly silver
    Handlebars Misfit Fubar silver
    Grips Cork
    Cables Nokon brake set silver
    Bidon cage 2x King Cage Ti

    Happy trails!

    PS Anybody knows some polished (!) silver brake levers? Can't find any.
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    For a little fun and to do a comparison of sorts of steel vs Alu I threw my Manitou Minute 120 fork on the Monkey for a day and have to say it really made it super fun, but I know it wasn't designed around that height fork and I have an alu frame designed for it already, so only did it for the one day - looks great though. Really liked the taller BB, didn't have to worry so much about pedal strikes and amazingly the bike still handled really well with it. Can't say I like the hsorter front centre though, especially with the axle all the way forward and the 120 fork I could really feel the twitchiness, not too bad, but you had to constantly be paying attention.

    Build in pic....Pro2/Flow wheels, X7 RD, LX FD, X9 shifters, M760 cranks 34/46 rings, 110/6 stem, cheapie seatpost, flat bar 9 degree sweep, Juicy7s F/Mono Min R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    PS Anybody knows some polished (!) silver brake levers? Can't find any.
    Paul Love Levers come in silver....

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    My Monkey

    I bought this bike I don't know how long and it has seen several different iterations over the past several years. It lived most of it's life as a SS with knobbies but has seen time as a commuter with slicks, a 1x9, 3x9, dinglespeed.

    Now I'm experimenting with a 6 speed. 2 chainrings manually shifted, 3 cogs from an exploded 12-25 cassette and an old 105 double rear derailluer. I've got a pretty decent gear range 36-32 upfront and 21, 17, 15 in the rear. I could only fit 3 cogs on my Novatec hub's short cassette body. Nothing special but she's mine.

    Happy trails!
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    Build list?

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdee
    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
    Nice! 25 lbs is what i'm aiming for.
    Can you please give us the build list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    Nice! 25 lbs is what i'm aiming for.
    Can you please give us the build list?
    Sure can!

    It now has a 1x9 setup with an X9 shifter, X7 rear derailleur, XT chain, Third Eye Chain watcher and a Deore 11-34 cassette) and weighs 26lb 10 oz

    The SS build is below:

    WTB speedisc lites laced to Speedisc rims 32h.

    Panaracer Rampage 2.3 front and rear with tubes (need to convert to tubeless)

    Salsa skewers

    BB7s with XTR levers and Odyssey Linear Slic Kable and housing (really nice stuff).

    Thomson Elite 27.2 x 390 (cut down from 410)

    WTB Devo saddle cro-mo rails

    SLX crankset with a Vuelta 32t aluminum chainring and a FSA clear poly bash.

    Surly 21t cog (lots of steep climbing at our local trails)

    XT pedals

    Ritchey Pro stem 90mm

    Easton Monkey Lite DH 710mm width

    King headset

    ODI lock on grips

    Sram PC 830 chain

    Niner You are What You Drink top cap

    That's about it. I'd have kept it a SS but I've been dealing with some very old running related knee issues and really need gears for a while. At least until I get them sorted, then it'll be back to SS.
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    Monkey Love

    I've been loving looking at all the monkeys while waiting on mine to show up from Fed Ex. This is my first 29er and I think the Karate Monkey will be an awesome introduction.

    So far it's still being built, (spent all day driving around to black friday stores only to be given limited time to build my new ride) I have dubbed this build the Judo Ape.

    Cell phone build picture.


    Hopefully I will finish it up tomorrow and get out on a ride to break it in.

    Build is focusing on a winter commuter/single track bike, built with parts I've had laying around waiting to see some dirt.

    Frame & Fork: Surly Karate Monkey
    Stem: Syntace F129
    Bar: FSA 180 Flat Now Race Face Evolve DH White
    Grips: ESI Silicone
    Shifters: Shimano XT M700 Friction Thumbies
    Brakes: Hope Mono Mini 7" front 6" rear
    Headset: Chris King
    Wheels: WTB SpeedDisc Formula Hubs SS rear
    Tires: Conti Mountain King 29x2.2
    Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 10spd 23..21..19..17 cogs Now 28.. 23.. 17.. cogs on SS hub
    Crank: Race Face Evolve X-Type 44-32
    Pedals: Crank Bros. Candy C
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR M-951 Short Cage Rapid Rise Now XTR M-952 Long Cage
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT M732 Top Mount Bottom Pull
    Seat post: Thomson Setback 26.8 + Coors can shim
    Seat: Fizik Arione Tri

    The gearing choice should give me 8 very usable ratios for both street and trail, but I may change it all up after my first ride, only one way to find out!



    Well I had my first short ride on the trail and I decided that I may need to rethink my gear choices for the trail (everything was rideable but wished for a bit lower of a gear for the longer climbs) and I need to work on the tire pressure (I know the mountain kings aren't known as great tires for the trail but they roll great on the pavement at 65psi {did 38 front and 32 rear on trail})



    Another crappy picture but at least its complete.


    Update: After spending plenty of time on the trail on the pavement and in the snow I have decided to change up the rear cogs for the rest of the winter until I get around to finding a 22T... So I have decided to take some exploded cassettes and run a 28.. 23.. 17.. in the rear and 44.. 32.. in the front. I have also found that running the 2.2 Mountain Kings between 20 and 30 psi really made a difference and took care of the teeth rattling.
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    Cruiser/Commuter Monkey

    Alfine 8 & Sugino DX MTB


    Chainline was a problem. I ended up with a 32t on this crankset to get 47.5mm. It looks like I have clearance to go to a 34t.


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    Nicely done Bernard! That looks like a great commuter. I was very close to going the alfine route on mine.

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    Hey Huevos, if you measure vertically above the BB what height do you get with your current setup on the 22" KM? Have to ask as I have the old model and when I measure it right now with Ardent 2.25" R/ WW LT F I get about the same meaurement they're stating for th new one - I get 33.75" with tape held infront of BB. According to what you're saying they've dropped it about an inch?
    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    The stand over on the 22" 2011 KM is .2 inches higher than the stand over on the earlier 20" KMs.

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    @LyNx Ive got a Specialized 2 Bliss 2.0 on the back and a 2.35 exiwolf up front. When I measured the standover with the tape bisecting the axle of the BB, the tape reads 31.75. When I measure closer to the middle of the top tube, my number is much closer to the figures from Surly.

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    Thanks man, that's really great, that's a 1/2" lower than when I have on my 38mm city slickers Won't help me really though, as besides that and the annoying brake tabs my Monkey is working just fine Me getting a sweet AM alu hardtail since hasn't improved the need to want a new one either - although the ride of the steel is definitely smoover.

    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    @LyNx Ive got a Specialized 2 Bliss 2.0 on the back and a 2.35 exiwolf up front. When I measured the standover with the tape bisecting the axle of the BB, the tape reads 31.75. When I measure closer to the middle of the top tube, my number is much closer to the figures from Surly.
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    Just ordered my Monkey. Hopefully will have it by the weekend! Stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    Just ordered my Monkey. Hopefully will have it by the weekend! Stoked!
    Battleship or Black?

    I was curious if anyone has taken delivery of the new 2011 Karate Monkey frame/fork in the black color yet. Plenty of gray bikes have been shown, but I don't recall seeing it in black yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Battleship or Black?

    I was curious if anyone has taken delivery of the new 2011 Karate Monkey frame/fork in the black color yet. Plenty of gray bikes have been shown, but I don't recall seeing it in black yet.

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    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.
    Sweet. I think yours will be the first new frame in black posted. I look forward to seeing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.
    Agree, black is a better color than the new grey. imo

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    I went black too
    Just pick up mine last night and Im excited to build it up tonight
    I think I need to file a "not feeling well" syndrome this afternoon so I can go home and have the building process started,
    Will post my picture later tonight
    Cheers
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    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. https://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/post-pics-your-fully-rigid-ss-29er-612263-8.html

    And here's a pic of my Battleship Gray KM, for all you gray bashers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. https://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/post-pics-your-fully-rigid-ss-29er-612263-8.html

    And here's a pic of my Battleship Gray KM, for all you gray bashers!

    Hey, I like grey but just prefer black.

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    I hear you man! I really had a tough time deciding between the two colors
    when ordering mine. My last bike was black, so I decided it was time for
    a change of color.

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    Here's my black Monkey. I just picked it up after work tonight. I got the complete since I didn't have many swappable parts. I'd still like to keep my Heckler for more techy days... we'll see I figure I'll upgrade here and there over time.

    No trail time yet, but on the road, yard grass, and sidewalks it seems to be what I want. Hopefully it doesn't snow tonight in NC (horrible, being in UT for the last 5 years, I lived on snow!) and I can get a ride in tomorrow.

    FWIW, Cycletherapy in Lewisville, NC (just outside of Winston-Salem) is the best bike shop I've dealt with. I ordered the bike on Tuesday at 4:55 PM. It was in the shop and built by 5:15 PM Friday. Thanks Mike!

    This is just in the living room. Not the best light. Better pictures to come.

    How clean does that look?


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    I like the way Surly kept their black frames. This color option has been a very faithful "Surly color", I must say .

    The new 2011 builds all look pretty sick. Can anyone comment on the differences in ride quality between the 2011 and the older style frames? I am not so keen on the Taiwan generic parts on the stock build though, always preferred a custom spec-ed built .

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    Here's my black Monkey. I just picked it up after work tonight. I got the complete since I didn't have many swappable parts. I'd still like to keep my Heckler for more techy days... we'll see I figure I'll upgrade here and there over time.

    No trail time yet, but on the road, yard grass, and sidewalks it seems to be what I want. Hopefully it doesn't snow tonight in NC (horrible, being in UT for the last 5 years, I lived on snow!) and I can get a ride in tomorrow.

    FWIW, Cycletherapy in Lewisville, NC (just outside of Winston-Salem) is the best bike shop I've dealt with. I ordered the bike on Tuesday at 4:55 PM. It was in the shop and built by 5:15 PM Friday. Thanks Mike!

    This is just in the living room. Not the best light. Better pictures to come.

    How clean does that look?

    That is very nice looking. Black is beautiful. What size did you get? Looking forward to your ride report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    Now with 30mm less spacers and a beautimous working Ragley Carnegie's bar. Awesome for rigid SS'ing.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/KV4-o-KDrEP1CG8as6ecxA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/THw1cQQnk2I/AAAAAAAAD-s/r6OKI7Soj-Q/s800/IMG_6630.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q2qwGjUPL4D6Fk2wQrUXGQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/THw1ch-o6EI/AAAAAAAAD-0/rQpzPhkWjjM/s800/IMG_6632.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kUO2fa9mWKJJ8KF6Wpn2Ag?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/TJlBWCkgbYI/AAAAAAAAEB4/QpHfYW8TDvs/s800/IMG_6737.JPG" /></a>

    I like that I could drop 30+mm of spacers and still get the bars just a tick below saddle height (my preferred location).

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gbOzHG72WCDIJrdnGcbSZg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/TJlBWUHlACI/AAAAAAAAEB8/ji-CS2rrCEA/s800/IMG_6740.JPG" /></a>

    I call dibs on that bike when you want to sell, but dude, drink much?

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    The KM did not disappoint. It was a little weird at first having no full suspension sag, but I got used to it quickly. I was surprised at how fast I rode as I was originally expecting to slow down a lot. Love the 29 inches. Rolls over almost everything and maintains momentum. I found one thing to work on - my climbing position out of the saddle. On one short but steepish climb I was way too forward out of the saddle. Didn't unweight the front at a big root and "disembarked". Saw stars and may or may not have broken my hand. I'm hoping it's nothing major. Loooove the bike though. Granted it's a new bike, but I was so much more tuned into the ride and working with the trail instead of letting the suspension do it. I sense this bike getting a lot of attention.

    Some stoke:





    Wife was there too. She took most of the pictures.




    Editted to add: It's 20" frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvossman
    I call dibs on that bike when you want to sell, but dude, drink much?
    JV, as a fellow South Floridian, I thought you would recognize my hurricane preparedness stocks 24 gallons.....just in case

    I did mov them a while back though.......

    No dice on the sale! I love this bike!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=612263&page=8
    Dang, I missed that one. I guess I saw the drop bars and skimmed right on by it.

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    sorry can't find it. Only one I see is a Kona Unit on some snowwy tracks.

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    jvossman, look @ Post #369.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenTwo
    I like the way Surly kept their black frames. This color option has been a very faithful "Surly color", I must say .

    The new 2011 builds all look pretty sick. Can anyone comment on the differences in ride quality between the 2011 and the older style frames? I am not so keen on the Taiwan generic parts on the stock build though, always preferred a custom spec-ed built .
    There is no noticeable change in ride quality between years. As far as I know, same steel, same builders, same basic geometry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    jvossman, look @ Post #369.
    i'm stupid, but don't see where do you see the post #?

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    Here it is. The post #'s are located on the far right, opposite from time/date the post was made.
    Not viewable if you have your page magnified.



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    my first 29'er

    My tonight posting of pictures is very long...so here it is just after I build it.
    Once it goes out to the parking lot, then to the trail, the picture taking was totally forgotten

    The first time I roll my leg over the top tube, it reminds me when I was a kid trying to mount my father's bike.

    At first it feels tall but after tweaking with steer tube spacers the other things, I easily tend to blend with the bike.

    didn't even need more than 5mins to get use to it. it just feels right.

    Handling is excellent, steering is quick but not scary on steep stuff probably because 29'er rolls easily on technical stuffs,

    Now here's the funny thing, when I try to ride my favorite and beloved Turner 5 Spot (26'er of course) it feels strange, the steering on a slack side of 68 feels weird, the wheels looks like a bmx wheels now

    Now this might give me new problem in the future

    action shots would be better, but this simple one for now, cheers
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    Still love my RFX even with the Monkey sitting nex to it. You could always build a Sultan!

    happy trails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn
    Now here's the funny thing, when I try to ride my favorite and beloved Turner 5 Spot (26'er of course) it feels strange, the steering on a slack side of 68 feels weird, the wheels looks like a bmx wheels now

    Welcome to the big wheels and what it does to the rest of the bikes you own.

    Now this might give me new problem in the future

    See below....

    action shots would be better, but this simple one for now, cheers
    Now that's a nice shot of one of the new black beauties!!! Sweet build and enjoy it. Let us know when that Turner 5 Spot gets sold and you get a full suspension 29"er to add to your Monkey. It's the logical next step, trust me.

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    Thanks Men,
    I've been dreaming of the new 5 Spot to replace my old one for my next project but that changes now

    Really a headache to choose between the two, or the Three once the RFX comes out in 2012
    When trails gets tougher, Just stand up and deliver.

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    Here's my KM at the Barton Creek Greenbelt several weeks ago. I bought it as a complete with the intention of it being my urban ride, and its sort of became my only bike instead. I added gears (3x6) and some beefier wheels with bigger rotors. Also switched out most of the cockpit to what you see here. I'm really happy with it. It truly is a great, versatile bike.


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    We had a sanctioned run/mtb duathalon after a whole lot of rain. Trail took a bit of a beating but will be ok with some work. The KM ate the mud for breakfast.

    Muddy monkey.

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    Finally the 20" KM grey has arrived

    Took her out for a spin today (minutes after i picked her up).

    Apart for the grips (diameter is too small, probably will order a set of Ergon Bio Cork grips) this bike handles really well. I LOVE it!

    The saddle (Brooks Ti Swift) is amazing, no complaints even after two hours of riding. It feels like the rails is flexing a bit, just the right way. The FuBar is a really nice surprise. The brakes are amazing (BB7). Love the handling, the big wheels, the simplicity of SS ... oh well ... I had a ton of fun today.

    Cheers. Good thing i have nothing planned tomorrow ...
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    digging the cork and brooks Socrates

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    My 2008 Karate Monkey.

    After participating in two overseas mountain bike races, I can say that I've got the build dialed in already.

    Specs:
    Karate Monkey frame and fork
    Chris King black headset
    Salsa Pro Moto 17 deg, 710mm long
    Thomson Elite 100mm stem
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Thomson Elite seatclamp
    Middleburn RS7 w/ SKF Stainless Steel BB
    2011 XTR Race pedals
    KMC X9 chain
    Fizik Gobi Xm
    Ergon GE1 White
    Magura Louise Carbon brakeset w/ Hope floating rotors
    Front Wheel: a2z hub w/ DT revolution laced to Salsa Semi rims. Stan's sealant with Racing Ralph 2.4
    Rear Wheel: Hadley 72-pt hub w/Dt revolution laced to Salsa Semi rims. Racing Ralph 2.4





    Gearing: 32:20

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    Just built her up. Maiden ride tom. Some crappy phone pics.









    Surly Karate monkey frame
    American classic wheels
    Surly steel fork
    Specialized fast trak tires
    Thomson stem
    Avid bb7 brakes
    Surly open bars
    FSA seat post
    Velo saddle
    Truvative 32t crank
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    Ritchey grips
    Cane Creek headset
    Surly 18t cog

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    Here's my setup after doing some warranty-voiding frame modifications (detailed here: https://forums.mtbr.com/frame-building/friday-show-tell-04-08-11-a-699520.html ):

    - 200X Surly Karate Monkey 20"
    - Fox F29 Fork with spacer removed to make it 100mm travel (G2 geometry, taken off a GF Rig)
    - Cane Creek 100 Headset
    - Ibis stock stem
    - On-One Mary Bars
    - Ergon GX-1 Team Issue Grips
    - Avid BB7s with crappy 160 Roundagon rotors and awesome Speed Dial levers
    - Bontrager Rhythm Comp Rear wheel with Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.25
    - Bontrager Rhythm front wheel (not even a Comp, from before they went to sealed cartridge bearings = suck) with Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25
    - WTB seat of some kind
    - Pure Race KS i851 dropper post (best $50 I've ever spent)
    - 190mm Profile BMX cranks
    - Animal 28T chainwheel / 18T and 22T rear cogs on cassette
    - shaved off everything unnecessary to make this a permanent-SS bike with internal cable routing







    A little muddy, better shot of the cable routing for the dropper post:


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    Mine's arriving soon (hopefully) great ideas, loving the drop bar approach and the cable routing as above

    Just hope I don't go back to the drawing board before it arrives for my wallets sake!

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    The Chimp

    she's a big'n
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg
    she's a big'n
    Nice! Is that the 22" sized Monkey?

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    Post-race muddy monkey.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aTomOfAllTrades

    True NC native:
    Oh my God Cheerwine is the best!

    We stock up whenever we go to NC, but now we have a local mom and pop grocer that gets Cheerwine here in North Florida. Awesome stuff.

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    Can someone post a photo of a 2011 with the bars turned around and the cranks horizontal, thank you in advance.

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    Carnegie bars?

    Green light Go, are those the flat Carnegie bars, and just for interest why upside down? Thinking of getting one so would be interested in your feedback
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by renovator
    Green light Go, are those the flat Carnegie bars, and just for interest why upside down? Thinking of getting one so would be interested in your feedback
    Thanks
    I'm pretty sure you're asking me, but no they're actually typical On-One Mary bars run with the rise, right-side up. Personal flavor of course, but I love them for suspended riding...when I put the rigid fork on there my hands end up getting rattled so much they slide inward on the grips and tear my hands up, so I'm going to put flat bars on for rigid riding from now on. The sweep is really comfy otherwise.
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    Karate Monkey in the Hudson Valley, Spring 2011
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    I really want to replace my crosscheck frame set with a KM frame set. I want to ride harder than the Xcheck frame should be ridden, and the KM can do everything the Xcheck can plus some. Thats the way it seems anyway. It will ride trails better, and potentially tour better should I decide to do that? My Xcheck is very new, so i figure I wouldn't lose too much in the swap. Am I crazy to do this? I don't think so, but you all ought to know better. What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaultbrad
    I really want to replace my crosscheck frame set with a KM frame set. I want to ride harder than the Xcheck frame should be ridden, and the KM can do everything the Xcheck can plus some. Thats the way it seems anyway. It will ride trails better, and potentially tour better should I decide to do that? My Xcheck is very new, so i figure I wouldn't lose too much in the swap. Am I crazy to do this? I don't think so, but you all ought to know better. What say you?
    I actually bought my KM with the intention of gearing it and turning it into a road bike. That was a mistake, It was way too much fun off road and I ended up buying a CC too.

    The CC has a better set of braze-ons than the KM, and the KM can't take a rack when you're running discs. I think the CC would be better suited to touring on the road/dirt roads because of this. Also keep in mind the KM is designed around fat knobbies. Shortly after I bought mine, I tried a taller gear and a set of 700x25 slicks. It felt awkwardly low to the ground and I kept striking the pedals in corners.

    There is some overlap, but the KM is a mountain bike. Have you looked at the Troll (more braze-ons for touring, but little wheels) or one of the Salsa bikes like the Fargo?

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    Thanks for the opinions! Considered those. Would do exclusively fun rides, SS, dirt, with the slight chance of future short tours(unlikely any time soon). Could get old man mtn racks to go with the discs when I get some. I have wheelset, v brakes, cranks, etc, etc, etc. Everything I'd need to just swap over, minus a wider BB. I'm a tallish dude and want to try some 29" dirt action. I like the idea of fat knobbies and I like the track ends on the frame. I also like that I'd be able to get the bars higher. Maybe I'll see what I could get rid of my CC frame set for.

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    I want one of these dang things soooooo bad. And all these pictures aren't helping.

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    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr


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    Simplicity at its finest!

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    Unknown year
    Large frame
    Gravity stem
    Thomson seatpost
    180mm XT crankset
    Mallet2 pedals
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Syntace Vector carbon handlebar
    Avid BB7's
    HBC chainring, Surly cog
    XT hubs with Mavic TN719 wheels
    Ardent 2.4's front and rear for full suspension bombing
    Double tuggnuts on the rear
    and the FUN factor turned up to 11!

    I hope this helps Flynnster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1

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    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Simplicity at its finest!

    IMG_1778 by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Unknown year
    Large frame
    Gravity stem
    Thomson seatpost
    180mm XT crankset
    Mallet2 pedals
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Syntace Vector carbon handlebar
    Avid BB7's
    HBC chainring, Surly cog
    XT hubs with Mavic TN719 wheels
    Ardent 2.4's front and rear for full suspension bombing
    Double tuggnuts on the rear
    and the FUN factor turned up to 11!

    I hope this helps Flynnster
    Nice build.
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