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    Alright, an update on the -08 HŁsker BlŁ salvage project;

    We went to the office yesterday to get the frame straightened. Threw it in a vice, clamped between a couple blocks of wood to protect the BB shell, wrapped a string around, took some measurements and started bending. Bending the frame was a lot more effort than we initially thought, but an hour later we'd managed to straighten it to practical symmetry (with a tolerance of about two mm) and gotten the rear spacing right.

    A quick angle gauge measure ruled out any significant twisting of the front triangle, which was a major relief! Now it just needs to be built up and ridden to see if our DIY straightening method missed anything, but I'm pretty confident we mended it.

    I'll update once the project moves on!



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    ^ tall white socks are key when attempting such a procedure. Good to see you came prepared.
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    That is awesome! Thanks for updating.

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    Let's see your KM builds-0511191150-01.jpg
    Hi all, I have done some updating to the KM 06 model. Late last year a stick jammed up my rear wheel, destroyed the wheel and derailleur.
    Built new wheels using old Hope 2 Hubs with Flow upfront and Arch out back. 2.4 Ardent and 2.25 Ardent in back.
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    Shifts so nice. Wider spread than old 1x9
    The front Ardent has way more volume compared to 24mm iw it did have. Lots of traction up front at 18psi, rear a little squirmy when cornering hard at 20psi. Rear wheel all the way forward gets the front end nice and light on the tough uphills. Motor needs tuneup for sure.
    Finally starting to get dry here, 3 rides this weekend. Loving drive train and new dropper.
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    In an effort at fleet reduction, I tried to make my 'KM take the role of my townie bike:

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    It didn't take. It never does. The Karate Monkey was meant to be a rigid single speed mountain bike, simple as that.

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    Just sometimes with a drop bar.
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    sharing my km in lemon lime soda. tried both 27.5+ and 29. ended up with the 27.5+ setup
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    Mine is a work in progress still. Still needs some front and rear racks... this will be my daily commuter. Itís a crazy fun ride. 27.5 Schwalbe G One tires (2.35) set up tubeless.


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    Bought this one maybe a year ago. '06-08 XL KM. I liked it because it came with Paul hubs. Put some knobby 2.5" tires on it, road it on a few trails. It slowly accumulated more Paul stuff (levers, post, stem), but it's just been sitting because I have another bike with gears and this one was no fun to ride on the street because of the gearing.

    Decided to change that and went from 36/20 to 42/20 which is a pretty good compromise for a single speed in san francisco. Swapped out the knobby tires for a 29" hookworm in the rear and a 29" torch in the front. The hookworm is a heavy tire, almost 1/2 lb more than the maxxis Aggressor that it replaced.

    I had my heart set on an original Selle Flite to replace the leather brooks that was on it, borrowed from my road bike. Couldn't find one for a decent price so I picked up this brooks C13 for cheeeeap. First few rides it felt a little stiff but I haven't noticed that since. Bike comes in right at 26 lbs.

    I'm stoked to put some miles around town on it now, and it's not that much work to swap tires, chainring, and chain to get it set back up for the trails.

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    Very nice update to a classic! Looks like a comfy, city streets slayer.
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    I also posted this in the + bikes forum...my KM doing time in 29+ mode.
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    ^ That's a good Blue!
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    ^ That's a good Blue!
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    Race face arch25 29er with schwalbe marathon almotion tubless. Still trying to get pics to upload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMedic13 View Post
    Mine is a work in progress still. Still needs some front and rear racks... this will be my daily commuter. Itís a crazy fun ride. 27.5 Schwalbe G One tires (2.35) set up tubeless.


    I saw your rig at MBW. Nice setup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by erste View Post
    This is just pure SEX!!! Jeez man!

    My mate's HŁsker BlŁ (the one we straightened a few posts back) is gonna be built up as a singlespeed as well, hope it turns out as nice as yours!

    As for me, my Monkey's been out for the count for a while, had to source a new ISIS BB. Finally built it up today and got out on a wee bikepacking overnighter to try it out. Super happy to have it rolling again, love these 1st gen monkeys!




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    Hoping my photo shows up. Had one of the yellow KMs when they first came out. Sold it after I convinced myself I needed something else, but the more I researched the more I came back to the KM's versatility. It's been a fun process slowly collecting parts and building this thing up over the last few months. This is version one setup primarily for moseying along rail-to-trail paths and ice cream dates with my lady. Lots of awesome builds and inspiration from this thread. Cheers to y'all fellow Surly folk!

    Side note: the new i9 101 hub has been awesome so far. First fancy hub I've ever owned and the sound & engagement are something special.
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    Just cleaned her up


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkosan View Post
    Just cleaned her up

    dmn that looks great

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    The tubes on the older Monkeys seem to be a fair bit smaller diameter than the newer ones, which makes for a far better looking bike.

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    They're also about a pound and a half lighter. No offense to all the great new bikes, but I prefer the older style.

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    This is how my build has come together so far. I still need to shorten the brake lines and the supports for that rack I put on last night, but I'm already really happy with how it's turned out.

    This is the "around town" form of it, which is responsible for my short <2 mile commute, the odd grocery trip, and any weekend adventures around town towing the twins in the trailer (thanks to the Robert Axle Project thru axle). With 30mm wide 29er wheels running the 29x2.5 ExtraTerrestrial touring tires, it rolls pretty well on pavement, and the high volume gives a comfortable ride over the rougher stuff. I mounted the Surly rear disc rack last night and it's super solid, but also quick to remove if I'm ever worried about it getting in the way.

    The "trail" form of this bike will replace the 29er wheels with a 27.5+ wheelset running 3.0 Dirt Wizards to give some actual traction in some of the loose trails. These would likely get put on for camping trips to sandy destinations where I want to tow the twins around but then also ride on the trails, and it'd be nice leaving the full suspension behind. We'll see though...I've never ridden full rigid 27.5+ on anything before, so this is kind of an impulse experiment to see if I'd actually want to leave the FS bike behind and ride rigid occasionally.

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    Any reason to go KM over Krampus?

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    Wheel size. Which do you want? 27.5+/29 for KM, or 29+ for Krampus?

    The bottom bracket on the Krampus is a bit higher. But both are high.
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    Is the KM not a 29+ also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LezRide View Post
    Is the KM not a 29+ also?
    No. The wheels are smaller on the KM. That is the main difference.

    Smaller wheels are more agile. The 27.5+/29 option are approximately the same size overall. The 27.5+ have more rubber. 29 roll faster.

    29+ are huge. Take a lot of power to turn. But they roll over anything. I consider the KM a lot more versatile than the Krampus. Krampus is rather niche.
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    Really? I don't care much about speed, but do about handling and you are saying KM is better handler? I am looking for something that's a good enough handler that will roll over anything. Is the KM also lighter based on what you are saying?

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    Yes. You need to start going to bike shops and compare these things. Even if they donít carry the bikes you want, it should be obvious if you test bikes with both wheel types. Either bike makes a great trail bike. It comes down to the wa it feels to the individual. But everything else being equal, a smaller wheel weighs less and turns more quickly, so is more nimble.

    How tall are you?

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    I am 5ft7 and 158lbs lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LezRide View Post
    I am 5ft7 and 158lbs lady.
    Iím about the same height and weight as you. Also female. I started on a size small Krampus. It was too small so I changed to a medium Karate Monkey. Built both from frame sets. That was very expensive as I wasnít certain of size, and building from a frame set usually costs more. I am 170 cm, which is 5í6.75, and every size chart out me on a small. But I personally need to size up, and at our heights we are borderline depending on individual fit issues. I have a very long inseam and arm length., for example, and that makes fit different from what was expected. I suggest you buy from a shop and be properly sized. Both bikes are close to $1500.00 US. Most bikes shops will let you do layaway, which I mention since you talked about getting a frame set on one of your other threads. And any bike shop with a QBP (quality bike parks) account can buy a Surly. That is most of them. I do personally recommend the KM over the Krampus. The wheels and tires make the Krampus very heavy to pick up and carry if need be. And it takes more energy to pedal such large wheels. If you are not already an experienced cyclist that could make riding wearying. If you were a 6í5Ē male Iís say definitely Krampus. At your height you could certainly enjoy either, but I rate the KM as being a better fit for you in overall style.

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    Thank you, will take a look at the KM too.

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    My LBS suggested if I am looking at both the KM and the Krampus, to go KM as it would roll better for the hills we have in the area. He also find the geo better on the KM. Said to go Krampus if I am mountain bike-packing(which I won't be) or was a heavier and taller rider.

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    Ha! What I said. I love my KM. Such a great Ďanythingí bike. Wish I had the blue they have available now. But my purple is cool. A little too flashy. But nice.

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    What differences are there between years, including 20(which might not be out yet)?

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    LezRide- here's some interesting discussion on the topic: https://forums.mtbr.com/surly/karate...n-1095997.html

    I think the current KM started in 2016. I don't see any reason they would want to change the frame for at least another year.

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    Thank you.

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    Chime in please if you are still using your KM w/ 29x3.0 tires.

    I know they fit. Plenty of shots of that.
    But after a season or so w/ the usual dry/wet/mud/etc type riding- are you still happy w/ this set up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    LezRide- here's some interesting discussion on the topic: https://forums.mtbr.com/surly/karate...n-1095997.html

    I think the current KM started in 2016. I don't see any reason they would want to change the frame for at least another year.
    The current Karate Monkey has only been around since 2018. The mango colored one was the first with the current setup, and now the blue (or yellow) one. There was a second color along with the mango frame, was it the light purple? I forget, but 2018 in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likeybikey View Post
    The current Karate Monkey has only been around since 2018. The mango colored one was the first with the current setup, and now the blue (or yellow) one. There was a second color along with the mango frame, was it the light purple? I forget, but 2018 in any case.
    he's talking about the geometry of the frame. They haven't redesigned the frame since 2016 or thereabouts. everything since then has been color changes and build kit tweets

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    2017, I believe. The year before had the mint green 2nd gen. 2017 was Rhymes with Orange (Mango, School bus Yellow).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    2017, I believe. The year before had the mint green 2nd gen. 2017 was Rhymes with Orange (Mango, School bus Yellow).
    yep, the 27.5 version was the "Rhymes with Orange", and the SS was originally purple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    2017, I believe. The year before had the mint green 2nd gen. 2017 was Rhymes with Orange (Mango, School bus Yellow).
    I guess the Rhymes with Orange was actually what one would call a 2017 model. Though the availability was annoyingly pushed back and back and back such that maybe some intergalactic dealers got a few (I don't know) but my local shop was unable to get any until December 2017. At that point I was too frustrated to buy one. Sort of regret that now as it was a good color. Same color as my stolen '98 Stumpjumper, so it would have been cool to have in that regard as well.
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    Through the years, bikes have come and gone from my stable. My Karate Monkey, however, will always be. It always has it's place and it never get's old. Miles of smiles on this ride!

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    Looking at possible building up a KM. How much adjustment is there in the chain stay length? I know it's 423 pushed all the way up. How far can you safely push it back? Maybe I would be better off with an Ogre. The versatility of the KM is hard to beat though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_Ky View Post
    Looking at possible building up a KM. How much adjustment is there in the chain stay length? I know it's 423 pushed all the way up. How far can you safely push it back? Maybe I would be better off with an Ogre. The versatility of the KM is hard to beat though.
    Curious as to why you are so concerned. The KM is a lot more lively than the Ogre. I realize a longer wheelbase is more stable, but it looks like you are on a cross check now, and road style bikes are shorter in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian1386 View Post
    This is how my build has come together so far. I still need to shorten the brake lines and the supports for that rack I put on last night, but I'm already really happy with how it's turned out.

    This is the "around town" form of it, which is responsible for my short <2 mile commute, the odd grocery trip, and any weekend adventures around town towing the twins in the trailer (thanks to the Robert Axle Project thru axle). With 30mm wide 29er wheels running the 29x2.5 ExtraTerrestrial touring tires, it rolls pretty well on pavement, and the high volume gives a comfortable ride over the rougher stuff. I mounted the Surly rear disc rack last night and it's super solid, but also quick to remove if I'm ever worried about it getting in the way.

    The "trail" form of this bike will replace the 29er wheels with a 27.5+ wheelset running 3.0 Dirt Wizards to give some actual traction in some of the loose trails. These would likely get put on for camping trips to sandy destinations where I want to tow the twins around but then also ride on the trails, and it'd be nice leaving the full suspension behind. We'll see though...I've never ridden full rigid 27.5+ on anything before, so this is kind of an impulse experiment to see if I'd actually want to leave the FS bike behind and ride rigid occasionally.

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    I haven't had the Cross Check in years. I sold it and went to a Disc Trucker. Sold the Trucker last summer. Currently have an ebike for commuting and a Wednesday for gnarly trails. Looking for a for something in between. The fat bike is a bit of a pig on the roads. The KM looks like it would be a fun bike to take around town and some local trails. I've never cared for short chain stays. Stability and comfort are more my thing. I've got the Wheel pulled back on my Wednesday too. Thanks

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    New colors!

    Rhymes with Orange is Baaccckkk! And it's rebranded as Toxic Tangerine, of course. That color needs to be permanent.

    Plus, a cool battleship grey, not sure what they called it.

    And...they still have the current colors. Their blue should also stay. I love that color and wish I had an excuse to buy it.

    https://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey

    Whoo hoo! 5 KM Colors! Not like they won't sell out.

    Just wish the ICT were available in one of these, or anything not hot pink. Though part of me likes it.

    Oh, wow! Look at the grey, it's an earthy, shiny grey-brown. https://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey

    I need a reason to own multiple KM's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_Ky View Post
    I haven't had the Cross Check in years. I sold it and went to a Disc Trucker. Sold the Trucker last summer. Currently have an ebike for commuting and a Wednesday for gnarly trails. Looking for a for something in between. The fat bike is a bit of a pig on the roads. The KM looks like it would be a fun bike to take around town and some local trails. I've never cared for short chain stays. Stability and comfort are more my thing. I've got the Wheel pulled back on my Wednesday too. Thanks
    I've tested an Ogre a few times, it's more 'mannerly' on the road, but feels like a tank to me. I actually do ride my KM on the road a lot. Wish I could tell you if it is more or less stable than the Ogre, but I don't know.

    FWIW, I'm close to buying a Wednesday. Hopefully in November. I'm at sea-level, and we have gnarly roots though the forests, and a lot of squishy sand. The KM gets stuck, and fat tires would roll over obstacles, better. It's set up 29 and rather light. 2.4" in the front, 2.25" in the rear. It's also a great utility bike. But I put an Old Man Mountain rack with basket on the rear so my little dog can ride. It's removable, but a pain to do so. And bringing him with me is important for us both. When I take off the rack he ends up sitting at home, more. Might as well keep the KM set up like that for now and have a dedicated trail bike.

    I rather approve of a KM Wednesday combo.
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    Dang.
    Now I need to source a KM in Orange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    I've tested an Ogre a few times, it's more 'mannerly' on the road, but feels like a tank to me. I actually do ride my KM on the road a lot. Wish I could tell you if it is more or less stable than the Ogre, but I don't know.

    FWIW, I'm close to buying a Wednesday. Hopefully in November. I'm at sea-level, and we have gnarly roots though the forests, and a lot of squishy sand. The KM gets stuck, and fat tires would roll over obstacles, better. It's set up 29 and rather light. 2.4" in the front, 2.25" in the rear. It's also a great utility bike. But I put an Old Man Mountain rack with basket on the rear so my little dog can ride. It's removable, but a pain to do so. And bringing him with me is important for us both. When I take off the rack he ends up sitting at home, more. Might as well keep the KM set up like that for now and have a dedicated trail bike.

    I rather approve of a KM Wednesday combo.
    I love the Wednesday and the way it will rolls over gnarly trails. Itís fun just to see where I can ride it. Thanks for your thoughts on the Ogre. Iím not looking for a tank. The KM looks like it would be a fun bike and considerably lighter than my Wednesday. I want to build one up rigid for riding around town and maybe some double track. Iím looking for a used one but so far no luck. I may just have to shell out for a new frame. The new rigid spec doesnít look bad. 12 spd 11-50 cassette and Tektro HD brakes. I was kinda wishing they would have a another 29er build. I had my Wednesday build up as 29+ Krampus but it wasnít much fun on the roads and the stand over was a bit too high for my liking.

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    Dang, I'm dreaming about an orange KM with 29x2.6 tires and a 140mm fork.

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    The Wet Clay would look real slick with tan sidewalls and a Brooks B17 and grips in honey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzymusketeer View Post
    The Wet Clay would look real slick with tan sidewalls and a Brooks B17 and grips in honey.
    I think it might be the color from the Ogre a few years ago, maybe Ď15 or so. I really dig it, and great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    I also posted this in the + bikes forum...my KM doing time in 29+ mode.
    Bike looks great! What fork is that and what width tires are you running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    Chime in please if you are still using your KM w/ 29x3.0 tires.

    I know they fit. Plenty of shots of that.
    But after a season or so w/ the usual dry/wet/mud/etc type riding- are you still happy w/ this set up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_Ky View Post
    How's the ET'S ride? I've like to do a similar set up for around town.
    i picked up a set of the ET's when they came out and love them. i picked them up when i had a 10 mile one way commute. Still using them 99% of the time. work fine as long as you stay out of super wet stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post

    Plus, a cool battleship grey, not sure what they called it.
    i got super excited for a minute. i really want one in the old battleship gray they used to do. although the wet clay isn't bad looking either.
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    Surly is pretty good at re-using old colors and calling them new names.
    Chum Bucket Red is the same as Brick Red or Brick Shit House or whatever.
    Perhaps Battleship is Wet Clay?

    Thanks CBRSteve. I donít want a Krampus but might be ditching the Trek Stache for a Monkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    Surly is pretty good at re-using old colors and calling them new names.
    Chum Bucket Red is the same as Brick Red or Brick Shit House or whatever.
    Perhaps Battleship is Wet Clay?

    Thanks CBRSteve. I donít want a Krampus but might be ditching the Trek Stache for a Monkey.
    Shiny side up Muchachoooo.

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    is Surly not offering the KM as a 29er anymore?! their site lists only the 27.5+ ? or is this just a "lack of inventory" issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    Perhaps Battleship is Wet Clay?



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    nah, the battleship gray is truly what its name says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    Surly is pretty good at re-using old colors and calling them new names.
    Chum Bucket Red is the same as Brick Red or Brick Shit House or whatever.
    Perhaps Battleship is Wet Clay?
    Wait, you mean hi-viz black, blacktacular, dark black, and dark black 2x are all the same color?

    Pixels on a screen can be hard to judge but I do think that the tannish gray Ogre is a lot lighter than what the wet clay KM appears to be. And the old Rhymes with Orange looks a bit more yellowy mango-ey than the new Toxic Tangerine. Nonetheless, both new colors seem pretty nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likeybikey View Post
    Wait, you mean hi-viz black, blacktacular, dark black, and dark black 2x are all the same color?

    Pixels on a screen can be hard to judge but I do think that the tannish gray Ogre is a lot lighter than what the wet clay KM appears to be. And the old Rhymes with Orange looks a bit more yellowy mango-ey than the new Toxic Tangerine. Nonetheless, both new colors seem pretty nice.
    But Trevor's Closet black is definitely different.

    Hard to say about the wet/clay tannish gray (uh, that's taupe). But I do like the pictures of the color with the KM better than the Ogre. And photography and light makes a big difference, too. Really like both colors. Wish I had an excuse to get it, and the porta potty blue.
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    According to this thread- Surly has historically always used the same color when they make a black frame. Supposedly itís even done so that a person can cover scratches w/ a black marker.
    https://forums.mtbr.com/surly/surly-...s-1101078.html

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    What the crap? I figured it was just a mistake but even QBP (Mothership distributor for Surly) shows ONLY 27.5 Monkeys.
    So the bike that (according to them ď the frame that helped spark the 29Ē wheel movementĒ) isnít even offered in a 29!?
    Weird. I know the bottom line plays and ever larger role at Surly. Did they find a shipload of low cost 27.5 wheels that helped them stay cheap?
    Now that the 27.5 movement has lost momentum (BaDumBum- thanks folks, Iíll be here all week. Tip your waitress) were they able to offer a stack of 27.5Ē bikes at an even lower price? (Or an even greater profit margin?)

    (Typed as a half awake, night shift worker, that knows nothing about businesses plans)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    According to this thread- Surly has historically always used the same color when they make a black frame. Supposedly itís even done so that a person can cover scratches w/ a black marker.
    https://forums.mtbr.com/surly/surly-...s-1101078.html

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    I am working on building a KM up for the same purposes as you, plus a little extra off road riding on some of the in town trails here in Rapid. I noticed your B.O.B set up, can we have some details on that, as I have one and would like to use it!

    Happy trails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by squish View Post
    I am working on building a KM up for the same purposes as you, plus a little extra off road riding on some of the in town trails here in Rapid. I noticed your B.O.B set up, can we have some details on that, as I have one and would like to use it!

    Happy trails...

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    I sold BOTH my Monkeys a few weeks ago. If you go BoB on a 2017+ Gnot Boost frame, I have a Robert Axle Project machined axle I'll sell for a good deal. I have no use for it any longer, obviously. I sold my BoB Ibex trail building trailer as well but it went with the '16 KM frame which ran a 10mm TA in my case so I ended up with this stray.

    Got some near brand new take off Dirt Wizards to part with, too. 27.5x3.00 and only ridden a couple times, literally, before I switched to my usual Nobby Nics.

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    Simple, yet effective!

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    pink monkey

    2008 frame. built up in 2010 after 8 years and a particularly wet fakawi (south florida adventure ride) combined with detached retina resulted in a complete tear down and $80 powder coat. Still my gravel grinder, critical mass, get the girls to school on time bike... Love my monkey!
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    That pink is dead sexy!
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    Gorgeous KM!
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    Monkey on the Atlantic.

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    Mine set up in trail mode
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    Anyone have a Purple Karate Monkey size large frame and fork they would like to sell?

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    Here's how my Karate Monkey looked in 2008 or so when I was riding it. Now it's set up with gears and disc brakes as my son adopted it 9 years ago.

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    Giving rigid riding a try


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    Anybody out there in monkey land with an old medium frame theyíd like to trade for a large ?? This one is older, black, straight 11/8 head tube (not 44mm), but not so old that it has canti mounts too.

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    Works Angle headset on the Monkey. HA from 67,5 to 65,5. Shredability went all the way to 11



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    Quote Originally Posted by stoltlama View Post
    Works Angle headset on the Monkey. HA from 67,5 to 65,5. Shredability went all the way to 11
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    That looks sweet. I am considering an angleset on my second generation KM. It is suspension corrected for an 80mm fork, but I might add an angleset and a 100mm fork. That might lower the headset a hair, so would a 120mm fork work or is that pushing the headtube/frame too much for what it was designed for?
    it's a challenge some of us are ultimately worthy of.

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    Let's see your KM builds-img_20200324_120052.jpg

    My new KM. Love it!

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    Changed the currently unused bolts for black nylon ones for more lightness and stealhtness.
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    Let's see your KM builds

    Meanwhile in southeastern Massachusetts...



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    ^ I like that fork, what is that?
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Monē fork and bars. 120mm corrected. Technically thatís beyond spec for the older frames, but at this point, itís a go. Iíve not seen too many of these older bikes with detachable headtubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Monē fork and bars. 120mm corrected. Technically thatís beyond spec for the older frames, but at this point, itís a go. Iíve not seen too many of these older bikes with detachable headtubes.
    How are you liking it so far compared to the stock fork? I was actually thinking about getting the mone fork for my krampus but haven't seen it on many other bikes.

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    Itís definitely got some more inherent flex. Iíd buy it again, if that counts for anything.

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