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    Sram Trigger Shifter dissasembly

    Seeing as there seems to be SO many posts about people taking apart there triggers and not being able to put them back together pay attention!

    DO NOT taken them apart by removing the shift lever. To swap the cable on either the X0 or X9 triggers remove the TOP Cover by unscrewing the silver round thing and lift the cover off. Simply push the old cable out and feed the new one in.


    Should you for some reason require to go deeper into them i have posted the exploded diagram of both the Xo and X9 triggers (Xo one pictured first)
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    Thanks for posting this.
    You are right in spec'ing that people don't take it all apart, but the silver/grey cover only.

    I know the old method of changing the table sucked with the 06 X7s, but I found this to be much more problematic than that old plastic/rubber screw. Just too much room for error, not to mention the threading of a freshly cut cable thru the pinhole.

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    Yes the other shifters are a bit of a challenge to thread a cable into.

    The Xo and X9 are remarkably easy though.

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    Anyone know how the small spring installs inside part #5 (the paddle) for X9 shifter?
    It is not shown in the above diagram.

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    Yes but its extremely difficult to describe it....

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    dang it, that's the piece I can't figure out how it goes back in.
    No pictures anywhere?

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    Post a pic of your lever.

    I'll try and edit the photo to show where it goes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strafer
    dang it, that's the piece I can't figure out how it goes back in.
    No pictures anywhere?
    AHHHH! I just did the same thing! I wish I had found this post beforehand.

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    Some detail pictures

    Here are som pictures I took when I made the "common" mistake of taking off the bottom part of the shifter. Hope this helps people in the same situation.
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    Awesome, thanks!
    The first pic is just what I needed.

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    Very helpful, I was just setting my X-9 shifters and almost removed the bottom rather than the top, this is good to have handy just in case!
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    yeah, thanks. the exploded diagrams are slightly helpful but don't adequately show the placement for the plates and springs. At this point there are some photos that do a great job of this...I almost posted some myself after I got mine back together.

    As a side note I called sram for a little explanation, their answer was take it to a shop. No we won't explain it to you, it should have yes place the spring on the post and against the lever. not some microsoft proprietary b.s. (meaning belief system, however bovine that may or may not be).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodsban
    Here are som pictures I took when I made the "common" mistake of taking off the bottom part of the shifter. Hope this helps people in the same situation.

    does anyone know how to properly get everything back in place? I've put everything back in according to the pics above, but it still doesn't seem right. i'm going crazy trying to get this back in working condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edlubba
    does anyone know how to properly get everything back in place? I've put everything back in according to the pics above, but it still doesn't seem right. i'm going crazy trying to get this back in working condition.
    Me too seriously I need help with this - whoever can post steps for this will get legend status on mtbr - go for it!!! I'm going to try it tonight again, in my bathroom behind the shower curtain so I don't lose any tiny parts that sproing out under spring pressure.

    If I get it, I'll post something. But I tried before, and I don't see why tonight will be any different.

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    I think I got it. just assemble it like in the pics. Do it in a bathroom or somewhere without carpet in case the little spring flys away. Coil the spring down in there, make sure it stays in, I had to hold it in with my thumb. Make sure the spring coils from bottom to top, bottom is as you are looking down at the shifter. Then place the silver lever on top, and I placed the L bend of the end of the spring kind of into the notch on the silver shifter, you can see where it goes. I don't think I had enough spring tension, but it seems good. I'll post an update tomorrow after a parking lot test.

    Edit: Ha: I took it apart again to take pics and lost the spring. SWEET
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    We did it differently than how the pics have it. We assembled all the parts in the paddle first with the blackish top cap on. Then we found the right hole that the spring sits between the top cap and paddle. After that we pre-wound the spring around the assembled paddle and then placed it in it's proper position in the pod body.

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    Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou.

    Before this thread I though all was lost! That final documented picture/technique by edlubba was the thing I needed to get it all back together. This thread was awesome- so much help. I can now change gears again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodsban
    Here are som pictures I took when I made the "common" mistake of taking off the bottom part of the shifter. Hope this helps people in the same situation.
    i have a problem with the X.0 shifter - it doesn't shift properly any more.when i am on the smallest cog it shifts once, but for the next shift i have to push it twice as far, for the next one even farther and so on. and it just shifts 5 times . so i opened the whole thing up, hoping to be able to do something to fix it, so far without luck. does anybody have a picture or text of how the lower spring needs to be seated?
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    i have a problem with the X.0 shifter - it doesn't shift properly any more.when i am on the smallest cog it shifts once, but for the next shift i have to push it twice as far, for the next one even farther and so on. and it just shifts 5 times . so i opened the whole thing up, hoping to be able to do something to fix it, so far without luck. does anybody have a picture or text of how the lower spring needs to be seated?
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    anybody have a diagram for a SRAM 2006/2007 front shifter pod? A rebuild/put-back-together thread would help too. Every one I've seen on this board has been for 2008 shifters.
    thnx! ryan.

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    This thread has been a great help for me to get my shifter back together, well almost back together. I made the rookie move of taking off the two philips head screws and black plastic plate to get the cable off. oops.

    Anyway, I can get it back together to the point that it shifts, but not with the black plastic plate on. When it's on it causes friction that doesn't allow the paddle to return. The round shims, black and silver, must have to stack a certain way and engage the lip of the plastic plate. What is the order? Is there a trick to getting past this point of the assembly? Thanks

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    Anybody?

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    You'll need to post some pics - i dont work on X9 alot mostly X0.

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    pls confirm your year/model of your SRAM shifter and if it's right or left

    Thanks.

    I got my Front shifter back together and working great. With my bros help we eventually figured it out.

    Incedently, if anybody else breaks the index finger pad off of the FRONT shifter (left), I did that, and opened up my shifterpod and used crazy glue to glue it back on, and it's worked fine since. As per this thread, its a pita to get it back together if you've never done it but definately do-able.

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    Attached are some pictures, though they don't show much. This is the shifter for my front derailleur.

    There are two seals (or washers or whathaveyou), a silver one and a black one that can be seen in the pictures that were already posted. I'm quite certain the black one goes on first and the silver next, but do these need to interact with the lip of the black cover plate? Do I need to make sure they are above or below the lip?

    As I said before, I can get the shifter reassembled and working perfectly, but then I go to put the black cover plate on and it screws up the works somehow.
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    I guess I'll be calling Sram tech support...

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    Are you screwing the plate on loosley then inserting the lever?

    I think the black plate might be putting pressure on the mechanism if your installing it after fitting the lever.

    On my XO i have two very thin metal washers/spacers above the lever. The Black ones goes in first then the silver on goes in. All they do is seal the shifter off from dirt etc, they do nothing in regards to shifting etc.

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    I'm putting the black plate on after I completely assemble the lever. I think I tried putting the black plate on before fitting the lever once and it did the same thing, but I'll try that again. It's tough to do that though since the black plate must go over the spring, as can be seen in the pictures.

    If that doesn't do it, maybe I'll try without the washers just to see if that is indeed the problem.

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    are your shifters xo or x9?

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    and what year?

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    2008 x.9

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    mine was 06/07

    Allright, sorry I cannot help you. Mine was the front shifter for 06/07 Sram x9.

    If anybody needs help with that one, buzz me.

    Good luck with yours man.

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    had the same issue with mine, got it all back together, but now I find that the big thumb lever wont return after you shift, anyone have any ideas?

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    I couldn't get mine to work with the 2 o-ring/shims installed, so I simply left them out. Without them it shifts perfect, with the thumb lever won't return.

    Yeah, they may get contaminated easier without them, but heck I'm pretty proficient at taking apart and assembling them so I can clean them now.

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    Brilliant thread

    This thread could be the missing link In summer I took my 6.6 to Morzine in French Alps with some friends for an event, whilst getting use to the tracks I had a few offs. One of these bent the silver lever on my rear XO trigger shifter and after straightening it out shifting was a lot more difficult.

    It was always one of those jobs I was going to get round to sorting out properly but never did and then last weekend the silver trigger lever suddenly felt like it had gone through its travel and locked up.

    I took the upper section to bits, checked everything out, cleaned a little bit of dirt, fitted a new cable (very easy) and reassembled, it seemed to work fine in my hand however it does not work when fitted to the bike.

    I never removed any springs so I assume they are ok but I am unsure about the square pin location as there appears to be more than one hole/slot in the plate that it can locate in.

    I live and ride in the UK and the UK distributors warranty team whilst very polite said its out of warranty ( I offered to pay for a fix) and we don't attempt to fix them under warranty, we just exchange failed ones for new ones so I'm afraid you will have to buy a new one

    So now I'm working on the basis I have nothing to lose by getting further in to the guts of the shifter but I would really some advice on what you think might be the cause of the problem and any XO photos showing the pin location would be much appreciated, thnx Paul

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    Hi Yespsb,

    Im based in the UK so if you need help gimme a shout.

    The UK distribution centre is well.... You appear to have found out !

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    Hi Ross

    Ross, have you had your XO's completely to bits ? no problem is that I still have not diagnosed what damage the impact caused other than bending the gear lever, because if that was the only problem it would have disappeared when I straightened out the lever.

    Without an accurate problem diagnosis I'm left with no option other than to pull it to bits and see if I can see where the problems lies, if its a broken part the next challenge will be getting hold of the spares as the only spares the UK disty has are the levers

    I guess from other posts you can get a much better choice of spares in America.

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    Does anyone know if the XO front trigger shifter has different internals than the rear shifter?

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    There are more bits inside the rear shifter yes as you have 9 gears instead of the fronts 3 gears.

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    Thanks, I was starting to think I lost some peices. My confusion was in the amount of detents. Now I know three gears equals two detents.

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    Many thanks from a brazilian old dog!

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    Perfect thread for what I needed to know.

    Big thanks from canada!

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    2009 X.0 Trigger Shifter problem - new one maybe?!

    Lots of people here having problems re-assembling the shifters once they've taken them apart. I've just bought a set of these second-hand, but in spectacularly good nick (don't even look used) - but when I trid a test-shift, I noticed that the alloy lever contacts the plastic down-shift lever; so much so that it prevents the alloy lever returning. Now that's physical, external interference with the up & down-shift levers, not a mechanism problem.

    Now this is expensive kit - so I'm at a loss as to what the hell SRAM is playing at with the lever design, so far I'm thoroughly unimpressed. Everyone raves about these, so I'm assuming there is something I've missed - has anyone else had issues with lever interference?

    If there's anyone out there that can advise, I'd really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyd_963
    Lots of people here having problems re-assembling the shifters once they've taken them apart. I've just bought a set of these second-hand, but in spectacularly good nick (don't even look used) - but when I trid a test-shift, I noticed that the alloy lever contacts the plastic down-shift lever; so much so that it prevents the alloy lever returning. Now that's physical, external interference with the up & down-shift levers, not a mechanism problem.
    Then either a) the alloy lever is bent (it's replaceable) or b) someone took them apart and didn't reassembly properly (the lower spool installed at an angle rather than flat). Since you bought them second hand either is possible.

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    price you pay for a lightweight bit of kit - too far I think!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo
    Then either a) the alloy lever is bent (it's replaceable) or b) someone took them apart and didn't reassembly properly (the lower spool installed at an angle rather than flat). Since you bought them second hand either is possible.
    Thanks for the advice Cosmo, I actually took these in to a dealer for some advice, and it turns out that the lever was (ever-so-slightly) bent.

    The guy that sold these to me swears blind that they were never crashed, and were fully functional when removed. These are very lightweight shifters, and I think SRAM have pushed the weight savings that bit too far - the lever alloy is very soft, and bends very easily - apparrently due to an impact in the post-bag during transit. If thats the case, I wouldn't want to see how they stand up to a crash.

    With the mechanical tolerance being so precise, just a slight bend will require new levers (75 for parts, plus assembly costs at the LBS) - I went straight back to Shimano, and will not be trying SRAM again. Disappointed.

    On the plus side, the seller claimed on the postal insurance, and I got all my cash back.

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    Firslty, who on earth is charging you 75 !? An X0 lever kit is 35 from the UK distributer at public prices, trade will be even cheaper....

    Secondly do you really need an lbs to undo a a bolt ?

    The X0 lever is held on with a small grub screw, undo it and rotate the shifter either direction and it comes off. Takes at most 10 seconds to do....

    Thirdly, yes it is alloy but aluminium is actually very stiff (hence why forks,rims,frames to name a few) are made from it.... Shimano's are plastic the last time i used a set so if they break your screwe. Why not remove the lever and bend it back into place ??

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    There are thousands of people who are very happy with their SRAM shifters. Before you write off SRAM, I'd suggest you bring it to a qualified mechanice to check out.

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    Fair enough - I'll name & shame; that'll be GA cycles Southampton. Didn't really need the LBS to replace the levers, it's just that you can't find replacement levers online, and the 75 was what was quoted for 2 x levers, ordered to store & fitted.

    I didn't want to risk bending the lever back, as I didn't know how resistant to fatuige the alloy is, and didn't want to risk causing a fracture (especially as I still had opportunity to request refund - if I broke it, I'd have been screwed).

    I've been riding Shimano for 10+ years, and never had a problem (depite a couple of crashes serious enough to land me in hospital...). I've no problem with plastic levers, might not look so bling, but it's light enough, and very tough.

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    Really helpfull! Thanks a lot!
    Anyways took me more than an hour to rebuild the trigger haha. Now is smoooth!
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    Can anyone help me fix my Sram SX-4 Shifters...I was trying to replace the derailleur cables and i unscrewed the whole thing and cant put it back now...Yes, I know it was a dumb thing to do, but I dont know how to change the cable inside of it.......SOMEONE PLEASE HELP...

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    All help is appreciated

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    Hello, anybody con help me - how to fix this:


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    Thanks for posting the pictures and information. Very helpful! I wish that SRAM would post this type of information and detail on their website!

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    Sram XX shifter

    FYI, I took apart my SRAM XX right hand 10 speed shifter by accident. After two attempts I have got it back working again. It is like a Swiss watch inside like many of the previous photos detail. If anyone wants advice on fixing 10 speed Sram shifters please let me know as I really can help! I should have taken photos, but my hands were all greased up as you can imagine. Next time I will....
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    My right X.0 10-speed shifter is having a problem where the big lever doesn't return most of the time, and if you pull it back it still isn't engaging to shift. These came on the bike and have never been opened up. Is this a common problem on these? How do you fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    My right X.0 10-speed shifter is having a problem where the big lever doesn't return most of the time, and if you pull it back it still isn't engaging to shift. These came on the bike and have never been opened up. Is this a common problem on these? How do you fix it?
    Does the cable move freely inside the housing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strafer View Post
    Does the cable move freely inside the housing?
    Yes. And it shifts down to the smaller cogs just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    My right X.0 10-speed shifter is having a problem where the big lever doesn't return most of the time, and if you pull it back it still isn't engaging to shift. These came on the bike and have never been opened up. Is this a common problem on these? How do you fix it?
    Are you happy to take off the top cap cover? It is fairly easy and you will be able to see the mechanism as you try shift and return. Observe the top spring for tension and also, perhaps with a flash light, look at the ratchet mechanism and see if it is engaging / dissengaging efficiently. There are two ratchet pins that take the main shifter movement and pass it up above to the ratchet circle, engaging cable tension to go up a gear.

    Do not take off the main shifter from the bottom at the moment! That is where the ratchets are located and it gets tricky.

    It is just a case of finding the fault in x y or z.

    Let me know how you get on and perhaps post some photos..Mr T..

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    any threads to put back together x5 shifter?

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    i had a question on my sram x0 trigger shifter for the front.

    i opened the top with the simple thumbscrew in order to change the cable on it, as i did for the rear trigger, but the front trigger has a different layout, and when i opened it one little piece fell out and i cannot figure out where it goes. i cannot find a manual online nor a way online to see where it might go, so i thought i would take a photo and ask here. you can see my opened shifter and the small U-shaped wire that came out from somewhere.
    if someone can point to where it goes it would be much appreciated. thanks...
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    I make it this spring, but I can't remember how I should fit.

    Finally, I ended up unscrewing second one - this helped (but be careful)

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    I have the same exact problem with a XO front shift. Please Help!

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    That "wire" inserts into the barrel adjuster, open ended prongs first. Same exact thing happened to me when I tried changing the shifter cable (Supposedly and easy job). It was very difficult too get back in. I had to open the right hand shifter pod to note lay-up with other wires (internals are slightly different). I used a small pair of needle-nosed pliers to get it back in. Even then I think I did it by chance.

    FYI: My 1992 Suntour XC Pro thumb shifters in friction mode (no indexing) are simple and flawless. Still going strong. Never have to deal with the cage rubbing the chain b/c I can adjust on the fly with the lever. Raced Sport-Class in 2011 with them passing guys on $10K-S-Works bikes.

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    who knows where i can get the little bolt that has a female threaded end on one side and male threaded on the other? or even what it is called.
    thanks

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    i found this thread AFTER explodering my front X0 shifter. took the bottom screw/cap off.

    doh!

    ready to throw the thing out the window. just cannot get it back.

    you think my LBS will be able to rebuild it? or am I sending it back to SRAM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacticacidbath View Post
    i found this thread AFTER explodering my front X0 shifter. took the bottom screw/cap off.

    doh!

    ready to throw the thing out the window. just cannot get it back.

    you think my LBS will be able to rebuild it? or am I sending it back to SRAM?
    I can fix it for you. Where are you based?

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    Hey I am really good at fixing shifters.

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    Who want some advice?

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    i need advice! i have a shimano LX Deore shifter and the left(front) shifter hasn't been able to get my FD to bring the chain to the biggest ring. it feels like it is at max and i couldn't shift any further. i thought it was just an issue with the cable tension and i tried all kinds of things. finally, i thought it may have something to do with the shifter in the first place coz i can't press any further than the 2nd stop. i don't feel any "bite" to it. so i opened it up and voila.. the teeth that's supposed to bite onto the ratchet isn't reaching after the doing the first ratchet. if i push a little bit on the teeth and shift while doing so, it goes in and i get to the 3rd position. i tried to see if there's any way to adjust this teeth but i don't see any screw or something.

    is there a way to fix this? or is it more convenient to just replace it? it's not much of an issue as i don't use the big ring much (complete newbie) and i see folks here trading it for a bash-guard. it just irks me as i know there IS something wrong and i just choose to ignore it...

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    Would anybody happen to have a closeup of the X0 2 x 10 shifter innards.
    I changed my cable yesterday and the clock spring doohicky came out.
    I think I put it back correctly, but I'd feel better if I saw a pic of it correctly installed.
    Thanks all,
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    anyone help, my second set of shifters have failed. They have never been pulled apart. The shift lever wont engage and just free spins? any idea?

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    Hello ppl!
    Today, during a ride, my Sram XX right shifter(10sp) lost a "click" whan i try to drop a shift. I mean when pulling rear derailleur to bigger chainring. When i drop it to smaller (with small lever) it works and clicks, to other saide - wont. It works and engages, but without click-stop.
    I'm affraid only dosmount can help me, but...

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    I've found the problem and solve it - broken spring.
    And at this moment trigger looks like this:
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    Help me put all this together!!!
    Where the end of big lever spring sould be?
    I can't understand and complete this one...
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    Last edited by Dimon Hell; 05-20-2014 at 01:40 PM.

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    Finally!
    Sram Trigger Shifter dissasembly-993918w.jpg
    Everything works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimon Hell View Post
    I've found the problem and solve it - broken spring.
    And at this moment trigger looks like this:
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    Help me put all this together!!!
    Where the end of big lever spring sould be?
    I can't understand and complete this one...
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    where does the little spring go in your third pic? nvm. figured it out. thanks for the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimon Hell View Post
    I've found the problem and solve it - broken spring.
    And at this moment trigger looks like this:
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    Congrats on getting it working. I'm going through the same process right now, but mine is an x0 10 speed. I thought I had it last night, but it's got the same issue as in the beginning. It shifts onto the bigger rings, but won't go to the smaller rings. It clicks and binds up. Won't let the ratchet go the give the cable some slack. Any idea what's causing this? I found installing that little flat spring shim thing really tough to keep in place. Could that be in wrong?

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    SRAM XX. Assembly.

    I too did the incredibly dumb move and disassembled my shifter. That damn spring orientation is not shown on any of the manuals or parts lists.

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    I ended up getting mine working again. Turns out that I wasn't getting that flat shim spring arm piece in proper. After taking it apart and assembling it several times, I got good at it, and started seeing how it works. Just takes time, and some mechanical understanding. If you're dumb enough to take it apart, you're probably smart enough to get it working again ha ha

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    If I remember correctly, I wasn't seating the end of that thin arm against the release thumb trigger properly. And it was disengaged when I took it apart, so I didn't realize that it was the problem from the get go. Good luck! Any questions, I'll try to help. Take pics if you can

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    How far is the spiral spring supposed to be wound up? I rotated the connected steel disc around 90 degrees before attaching the through bolt, but I suspect that the tension is too low. The downshift lever hesitates before returning to the neutral position.
    Last edited by Einar Irgens; 04-10-2017 at 11:15 AM.

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    Anyone know if the guts of a 2x x7 front is the same as an Xo ?

    Thanks

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