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    Offical SRAM X.0 2X10

    https://sram2x10.com/?p=881

    Looks a little different, and better, than those early spy photos. https://files.posterous.com/waftycra...4DSHykXQ9p4%3D

    Thank God.

    I misspelled "Official". Damn.
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    Looks good but, I still say: No grip shift, no 2x10 for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amillmtb
    Looks good but, I still say: No grip shift, no 2x10 for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amillmtb
    Looks good but, I still say: No grip shift, no 2x10 for me.
    I'm with you there
    I'll be sticking with my 2x9 set up for awhile to come.
    My favorite XO rear dérailleur will continue to be the 08' medium cage
    with an XX up front..And of coarse the XO grippers. This setup has proved
    itself over and over to be the fastest, cleanest shifting system I've yet to ride
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    as someone who adopted gripshift when the xtr 960 flippy shifters came out i was hesitant with the sram xx with out gripshift.

    i'm sold on triggers again thanks to the fast flawless great shifting from the sram shifters try em'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amillmtb
    Looks good but, I still say: No grip shift, no 2x10 for me.
    More...no grip shift , no Powerlink, no 2x10 for me.
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    no spendy without twisties

    me also.

    NO XO or XX twist shifters = NO XO or XX 10 speed drivetrain upgrade.

    wasn't impressed with XO trigger shifters - XTR worked far better - but vastly prefer grip shifters

    ...could SRAM possibly abandon its greatest product?

    ............................

    (hey OP that link doesn't work)

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge

    could SRAM possibly abandon its greatest product?
    when is the first world cup xc race?

    look closely on the photos of euro guys bikes that are running sram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge
    me also.

    NO XO or XX twist shifters = NO XO or XX 10 speed drivetrain upgrade.

    wasn't impressed with XO trigger shifters - XTR worked far better - but vastly prefer grip shifters

    ...could SRAM possibly abandon its greatest product?
    Me too.
    Weird that SRAM would just drop what got them started in the business. First models did not work so good. But the current X.0 grip shifters are better than anything else if have ever used. Triggers are OK, but like everything about twist shifters, from the ease of replacing cables, to the simplicity and greate shifting.

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    The thing is, Sram would really only have to develop a ONE rear grip shifter for the 10 speed stuff. With the 2x front, it does not matter at least to me what kind of shifter is being used on the front. Current twist shifters are probably fine. So are triggers if trim is not needed.

    Would not NEED to have different levels really. A couple of grip options would be fine. So, maybe 2 levels, XX with "race grip" and x.9 with trail grip. Maybe the marketing guys would protest.

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    With all of this new 2x10 stuff is SRAM completely phasing out the 9-speed x.o? On BTI's catalog it says that once all of the green x.o parts are gone, thats it. No more. And same with two other colors that were a part of the color your ride group. Also, the only noir crankset option they have is the gray color. No more fun ones

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    Hope SRAM is reading mtbr.com, everywhere thread I read about 10 speed has the same
    result.... No gripshift, no 10 speed. Make the damn twisters !!!
    I don't need sex, life f*cks me everyday.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex11
    Hope SRAM is reading mtbr.com, everywhere thread I read about 10 speed has the same
    result.... No gripshift, no 10 speed. Make the damn twisters !!!
    I wish they would, but about a year ago saw a quote from a high up at SRAM. They have no intentions of making 10speed twist shifters. Mentioned lack of market, and compatibility with brake levers.

    Personally i cannot believe they could not modify their current 9 speed twist shifters and make them work.

    I believe it is a profit thing for them. That is, a lot more profit on the trigger shifters. And they probably believe that we will come around. I might but only after i can quit easily buying 9 speed X.0 twist shifters and derailleurs.

    Plus, 9 speed works very nice for me, thank you. When i went from 9 to 10 on my road bike, only thing i noticed was the shifting tolerance was more picky, chains did not last as long and cost more, cassettes cost more, etc.

    Same type of issues with Shimano, they had a very nice XTR group with the 952 and came out with 960 and integrated shifters with rapid rise rd. That was the point i went from Shimano to SRAM and have not looked back.

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    Is X0 2x10 actually available yet? I wonder about the price and weight difference from XX.

    PS. I made a brief attempt to search.

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    Idea! Sram 10-Speed MTB Weigh Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    Is X0 2x10 actually available yet? I wonder about the price and weight difference from XX.

    PS. I made a brief attempt to search.
    I don't think pricing information has been released. There doesn't seem to be a good chart of weight comparisons, so I made one for the XX to X7 line. All weights are in grams. It's interesting that some of the lower end parts are a bit lighter.

    See the attached image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SplijinX
    I don't think pricing information has been released. There doesn't seem to be a good chart of weight comparisons, so I made one for the XX to X7 line. All weights are in grams. It's interesting that some of the lower end parts are a bit lighter.

    See the attached image.
    Thanks! I don't think the new stuff will be out by the time I will build, so it looks like I will be looking at XX 2x10, X0 3x9, or a 2x9 of some kind.

    The other thing I noticed around here was mention that the 2x10 chains did not have a powerlink. Reading the SRAM 2x10 site, they mention power linked chains.

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    For sram 10 speed chains you get a 'one use' power lock not reuseable power link however kmc and probably others make 10sp power links that work exactly the same way as the gold 9sp sram power link, hope this helps.

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    Does anyone have an actual availability date for the 2011 X0 stuff? This is something I haven't been able to coax out of anyone yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ-X
    Does anyone have an actual availability date for the 2011 X0 stuff? This is something I haven't been able to coax out of anyone yet...
    I'm waiting for pricing. XX is way out of my league short of an obscene bonus. I'm probably looking at mostly X9 with one or two X0 parts for my XC/racing frame, and complete X7 for the trail bike I want to build next year.

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    dates????

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    apparenlty 2x10 x.9 groups will start shipping to manufacturers in mid july. so the retail market will be looking at a little while after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie_yeti
    apparenlty 2x10 x.9 groups will start shipping to manufacturers in mid july. so the retail market will be looking at a little while after that.
    Anybody else here know when X.0's hit the market?

    I'm curious on how a 1x10 would ride! Building an Intense Tracer Vp soon and would like something light for the drivetrain...

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    On May 29, a SRAM guy told me XO 2X10 would be available in about 6 weeks.

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    Does anyone have any general idea when these will be released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slalomnorth65
    Does anyone have any general idea when these will be released?
    That's funny.

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    If you go on the trek site you can see some good pics of the production XO stuff on the new superfly.

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    I saw them yesterday on the site...so maybe will see them retail soon...

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    There is a thread discussing what some call acceleterated wear on the XX drivetrain. I wonder if the XO will eliminate these potential issues?
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    Don't know if it's been posted already, but Bike Radar has initial ride impressions of the x.0 group here:

    http://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...e-review-26550

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    ANd they mention a 24/36 x0 crank!!! I hope this is true. Its getting time for a new crankset and I am dreaming of a whole X0 Group to update my 2006 stuff.

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    When will we see some pricing on this?

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    Where was a 24x36 crank mentioned?

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    Big radar review, 60% throug the article.

    "X0 will have more gearing options, though, with the same 26/39T and 28/42T sizes as XX but also a three-ring setup, a smaller 24/36T range aimed at 29ers, and even possibly a dedicated singlespeed spider further down the road. Three-ring cranks will feature the same X-Glide technology as the two-ring ones, with unique 22/33/44T sizes in keeping with the system's required fixed-integer ratios across the spread. If it's even remotely close to the performance of the two-ring setups, we expect the three-ring shifts to be simply superb." -BikeRadar

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    I've been waiting to see a quoted weight for the 11-36 xo cassette. 260g sounds great. I hope thats accurate.

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    compatibility

    Hi, will the new XO triple chainset be compatible with the 9 speed XO components.
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    even the old gold power links only had a reccomended life span of 1 use though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destin
    even the old gold power links only had a reccomended life span of 1 use though
    No. One chain is different than one use. They said it wore at the same rate as the chain, so when you get a new chain, use a new powerlink.

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    anybody have a confirmed weight on the 11-36 cassette ?

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    I agree, SRAM really needs to make 10 speed GripShift. 2X10 to be exact. There IS a market for them...
    that rug really tied the room together.

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    its on ebay now....

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    Must . . . have. . . . 2x10 grip shift . . . . (slobber . . .grunt)
    Will make myself if SRAM no make.

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    Any new news about when the XO is to be shipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesinmud
    Any new news about when the XO is to be shipping?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-SRAM-X-0-XO...ht_1190wt_1023

    Above item on ebay (2011 X0 grupo) says it will ship by the end of July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTZeek
    http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-SRAM-X-0-XO...ht_1190wt_1023

    Above item on ebay (2011 X0 grupo) says it will ship by the end of July.
    Ya, I'm watching that as well. dealmaker hasn't responded to my emails from a few days ago. Just thought I'd check if anyone else has some news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    as someone who adopted gripshift when the xtr 960 flippy shifters came out i was hesitant with the sram xx with out gripshift.

    i'm sold on triggers again thanks to the fast flawless great shifting from the sram shifters try em'.
    +1 I just put on the new silver SRAM x0 2x10. AMAZING. And, downright cheap compared to XX with minimal change in performance. Heck some of the reviews said (and I can't remember the reasons atm) that it should actually work BETTER than XX for trail riders. Shifting in the front is better than rear shifting has been on some systems I've ridden. Give it a try, you won't regret it.

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