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    Good job! Swapping the rear shock from air to coil on ENDURO FSR.

    This weekend I swapped out my rear shock on my Enduro which was a float floatRL with itch switch to a FOX Vanilla coil RL.
    I ordered a 7 7/8 eye to eye with a 2" stroke vanilla. I also ordered the standard eyelet bushing for a Specialized Enduro they fit the float or vanilla just right. My Vanilla had a choice of spring rates so I got 550 lbs by 2.29 .
    I usually run my shock linkage in the steeper 70.5 by higher BB mode. Because the Vanilla has a slightly longer eye to eye measurement I flipped my linkage to the slacker and lower setting (69.5 by lower BB).
    With the longer shock it seems that I have settled in between the two settings. I would guess I have about 70 head angle but with the higher BB. I must also say I am running a Marzocchi Z1 on the front wich is a longer 5" coil shock which tends to slacken out the head angle a bit more by itself.

    First impressions of the shock: ( I only have one ride on it) The linear nature of a coil shock is much plusher than the Progressive rate of an air shock. There is no ramping up of the shock at the end of the travel just seemingly bottomless action. I also notice more rear wheel travel - closer to 6".
    The only time I missed my float with itch was a long steep grind up when I would normally switch to short travel 4" mode on the itch.
    The buttery plush feel of the shock was VERY nice on the way down or on tight switchbacks. Log crossing were very nice as I could tell I was geeting a bit more clearence with a higher BB.
    The rear end seemed stiffer too with a coil. The power transfer was very nice and the rear wheel really stuck to the ground as I pedaled hard over roots and rocks.
    More reviews to come with pictures.
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    some pictures of the switch

    Here are some pictures of the Fox Vanilla on my '02 Enduro. The first is my old Fox float held up - you can see it still had the old eyelet bushings on it.
    The rest are different views of the vanilla.
    The last is how the Float looked on the bike.

    All in all the change was very easy it only took about 20 minutes to swap it out. Having the extra set of eyelet bushings was key though. You would spend a lot long if you had to pry the old ones out of the Float and press them into the new Vanilla. Not to mention you would probably bugger them up pretty good as they are fairly soft aluminum.

    This is my first coil shock and I am still fiddling with the rebound and preload. Anybody else want to give some advice on those settings? I have the rebound set a bit slow. The Fox is very nice and each click on the rebound dial is a big change in action. I have mine set one click up from noticeably slow. How do you determine sag on a coil? I guess you need two people? I was considering wiping a small amount of grease on the piston getting on like you would normally check sag and then getting off and measuring how far the grease was wiped off (then of course wiping the grease off before riding).

    So lets hear from some others who have switched their shocks out.
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    Hi Chris,
    That RL fits in there great! You run yours the opposite direction from mine (Pre-load at the bottom) of course I am running a Vanilla RC and not the RL. My compression damping is at the top and my rebound knob is at the bottom. I run mine that way because I figured I would be tweaking the rebound more so than the compression and it is a squeeze to access the top knob since it is up in the seattower. Pre-load should be set at Appx .56" per the Fox owners manual (available on line from Fox in PDF format) the damping is really personal preferrence. I have mine set so that when I drop off of a 18" wall in the seat I get no kickback from the suspension. Not sure of the # of clicks? I will tweak rebound based on type of trail I'm riding. I am looking for some hints on setting compression damping? Once this shock needs to be serviced I am going to send it to Push Industries for the Pro-Pedal upgrade at $138.00 Coil over in my opinion really lets an Enduro show what it is capable of and is a lot more linear and comfortable for rough riding. I am anxious to see what it does for me on my next Urban Assault ride!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enduroguy
    Hi Chris,
    That RL fits in there great! You run yours the opposite direction from mine (Pre-load at the bottom) of course I am running a Vanilla RC and not the RL. My compression damping is at the top and my rebound knob is at the bottom. I run mine that way because I figured I would be tweaking the rebound more so than the compression and it is a squeeze to access the top knob since it is up in the seattower. Pre-load should be set at Appx .56" per the Fox owners manual (available on line from Fox in PDF format) the damping is really personal preferrence. I have mine set so that when I drop off of a 18" wall in the seat I get no kickback from the suspension. Not sure of the # of clicks? I will tweak rebound based on type of trail I'm riding. I am looking for some hints on setting compression damping? Once this shock needs to be serviced I am going to send it to Push Industries for the Pro-Pedal upgrade at $138.00 Coil over in my opinion really lets an Enduro show what it is capable of and is a lot more linear and comfortable for rough riding. I am anxious to see what it does for me on my next Urban Assault ride!!
    Hey I'm lookin to do a similar build ot my 01 enduro, can you post up some pics of your ride, and to Chris, that is one kick ass ride enjoy it.
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    air to coil

    I am thinking of changing to a vanilla coilover but am unsure which spring to get. do you weigh 170 lbs + have you got about 30% sag?
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    spring rate

    Quote Originally Posted by rowdyflat
    I am thinking of changing to a vanilla coilover but am unsure which spring to get. do you weigh 170 lbs + have you got about 30% sag?
    I do weigh in at 170 lbs plus camel back. and I have my sag set at 1/2" which is 25% sag
    that seems to do just fine. (that is the recommended sag in the Fox maunal). My spring is a 550 x 2.29 it seems to do just fine.Nice and plush and no real bob from pedaling. Enduro guy has a Vanilla RC he is 6' and 225 lbs he is running a 600 lb spring.
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    air to coil

    Thanks for that cbchess.What is the deal with the bushings do the standard vanilla bushings fit OK[? I want to ask enduroguy whether he did any modifications to get the RC with its piggyback to fit? ]

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    Bushings on the fox

    Quote Originally Posted by rowdyflat
    Thanks for that cbchess.What is the deal with the bushings do the standard vanilla bushings fit OK[? I want to ask enduroguy whether he did any modifications to get the RC with its piggyback to fit? ]
    There is no Standard set of bushings- each bike takes different ones. The fox bushing from the Float fits just the same on the Vanilla. That being said you should have one set for each shock. You can get a new set of bushing from Fox just tell them your year, make, and model of your bike - it doesn't matter if you are putting them on the Float or Vanilla. I put one set on the wrong end when I first got my Vanilla and it took me 10 minutes to pry it off. I almost ruined it as it is aluminum and soft. So switching between the two shocks is not really an option with out risking trashing the bushings.
    I do ALL my own maintenance and build my bikes from the frame up so itís not like I was Ham fisting my way through this. You need to press them in with a clamp or Bench Vise. Just go really slow and use a block of wood on both sides so you donít bugger up the bushings.
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    Enduro guy put a small spacer under the ring that holds the spring on, a very small spacer. One end of the spring sits on a metal washer and the other end the metal washer can be screwed on tighter or looser to set pre-load. the first non moving washer kind of sits on a "shoulder" what he did was back the pre-load off until the spring was loose then slip an tiny spacer in between the shoulder and the washer like .25" or something. All this did was shifting the whole thing up a quarter inch so that the shock wouldn't hit the shock link.
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    Vanilla RC (piggyback ) on 03 Enduro ?

    I have the Vanilla 7.8 e2e 2.25 stroker with 450 lb springs and weigh bout 170 with gear. I was wondering about the Compression option if I try a piggyback Vanilla. Has anyone done this ? Comments on end user observations regarding the C option.

    Pics of piggyback on 03 showing any mods if required for fit would be appreciated.

    Gracias in advance....

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    ... and if we just ... Vanilla RC WILL work!

    I currently have a Vanilla RC on my Enduro and I run a 600 Lb spring, but I weigh in at 210-220 Lbs w/out gear and it works perfect. You will need to make a spacer to move the spring further up the shaft but it is really easy to do. I used a .25 headset spacer that I cut roughly in half and then formed around a socket. It took a little trial and error but it fits perfectly! I have a sketch I can fax over or maybe scan and e-mail over. I am hoping to get some pictures tomorrow. If I do I'll post them. This is such a great improvement in the rear suspension especially if you deal w/rocky terrain. Feel free to e-mail me for more info! Don the EnduroGuy!

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    Thanks

    enduroguy,
    I will watch for the pics since I cannot visualize why the piggyback will not fit.

    THanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSPRINGS
    enduroguy,
    I will watch for the pics since I cannot visualize why the piggyback will not fit.

    THanks

    The Piggyback will fit w/it up at the top of the frame but will not, IF you run w/the piggyback at the bottom by the swing link because the spring hits the cross member of the swing link. Now that may be because my spring is set up high on the shaft towards the piggyback to help clear the cross mamber the way I have it on my bike? I had my buddy over after a ride on Sun to take a picture and his damn camera batteries croaked! Maybe another weekend? I am not going to be riding weekends for the next 3 weekends because of family obligations but once I do I'll get pictures.

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    ok

    Obligations...what is that all about? What about your obligations to the trail Goddesses? OK if it is Passover bee sure to honor the Trail Goddess and Elijah as well.

    Due to the physical configuration I can imagine potential problems with clearance / conflict with the end of the seat post if shock is installed with PB at top or bottom for that matter. The spring situation I will look forward to seeing. My bro just scored a 7.8 x 2.25 R coil for $120.00. Unfiortunately has wrong spring weight but I have one coming today which should work.

    These Enduros really come alive with coil in front and rear! Too bad 98% of the buying public ride em the way Spec shipped em with the crummy performing Air shocks.

    What state are you in ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbchess
    How do you determine sag on a coil? I guess you need two people? I was considering wiping a small amount of grease on the piston getting on like you would normally check sag and then getting off and measuring how far the grease was wiped off (then of course wiping the grease off before riding).

    So lets hear from some others who have switched their shocks out.
    Chris
    FWIW when I had a Vanilla R on my former bike I found I could slide the bumpstop up the shaft (carefully so's not to scratch the shaft) and use it as a sag/travel indicator without messing with zip ties inside the spring.

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    Great Balls O Fire

    Great Idea Fsrxc, Hmmm Beats The Dental Floss Trick.


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    ahhh I see

    Quote Originally Posted by fsrxc
    FWIW when I had a Vanilla R on my former bike I found I could slide the bumpstop up the shaft (carefully so's not to scratch the shaft) and use it as a sag/travel indicator without messing with zip ties inside the spring.
    thats a good idea. I checked mine by zip ties and lots of cussing. It was hard to get my fingers inside the spring to get the zip on.
    I forgot to take it off after checking sag. Then after my first ride I checked it again - it was up INSIDE my bump stopper!
    I guess that means I am getting full travel!
    Thanks~!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSPRINGS
    Obligations...what is that all about? What about your obligations to the trail Goddesses? OK if it is Passover bee sure to honor the Trail Goddess and Elijah as well.

    Due to the physical configuration I can imagine potential problems with clearance / conflict with the end of the seat post if shock is installed with PB at top or bottom for that matter. The spring situation I will look forward to seeing. My bro just scored a 7.8 x 2.25 R coil for $120.00. Unfiortunately has wrong spring weight but I have one coming today which should work.

    These Enduros really come alive with coil in front and rear! Too bad 98% of the buying public ride em the way Spec shipped em with the crummy performing Air shocks.

    What state are you in ?
    Actually it's the coil on the underside that hits the cross member on the top of the swinglink. I'm going crazy cuz I cannot show you what I mean! The Vanilla R will work no problem but the RC has special requirements. If you have access to a fax I can send you the modified Dwg I made to show the mod. Great deal on the R! I'm going to get a slightly heavier spring (650 or 700) to replace my 600, it's just a touch too soft. You are right about the Enduro coming alive w/the coil at both ends! I think I may be one of the 1st people in the country to put a RC on their Enduro! Good luck w/your conversion! I live outside of Pittsburgh, Pa.

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    Sell your RL shock?

    [Would you be interested in selling your air shock? (I have an '03 Enduro Comp )

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    ... and if we just ... Could Not Help Myself, Had To Go With The '03 Vanilla RL

    I have been on the fence on this topic for quite some time and have been debating going coil. Finally decided to go for it, and bought a '03 Vanilla RL from Fox last week. I originally ordered a 700# spring based on the spring chart, but after it was delivered, realized it was too stiff. Turned around and bought a 650#, after one ride and was AMAZED at the ride difference! The coil switch has made the bike come alive! I am getting the appropriate sag with the 650#, but ordered a 600# the other day to see the ride differences (I weigh 200# and ride very aggressive XC......can you say directonal changes through impact?!).

    I bought the RL for several reasons: 1. The coil Romic's track record has not been great. 2. The Fox shocks have a great track record and wonderful customer service. 3. The 5th Element coil is too expensive. 4. I prefer lockout based on my previous experience with the Float RL (ITCH). 5. I was concerned over the fit issue with the Vanilla RC. 6. At my weight and riding style, I do not truely see the benefit of ProPedal or Stable Platform tuning.

    Even though I bought the RL, I never had to use the lockout on my test rides. (I used it constantly with the Float.) I was making extended technical climbs that I had never been able to complete before without dabbing. Based on the nature of the coil spring and the "new" ride characteristics of the frame, I could have probably saved a little cash and searched for a Vanilla R in the 7.875 e2e. (However, if I like the 600#, I may need the lockout...we'll see.)

    The best thing about switching to coil is that I noticed the bike tracks so much better now. It actually feels as if the suspension linkage has stiffened. Like most, I have the flip-flop link in the slackest position due to the increase in e2e. I can not explain why the bike feels better, it just does. Prior to the coil purchase I was contemplating selling the frame and buying an SC Heckler. Banish that thought now!

    My next question is, does anybody want to buy a Float RL that is in great shape? How about a 700# spring for only $15.00?
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    air to coil

    Thanks to everyone for their help. I found a new 2003 Vanilla R on ebay w a 650 lb coil which might be a bit stiff for my weight 185 but we will see.It is coming soon. I have previously replaced the air shock with coil on my extended travel stumpjumper and it was much plusher and not bouncey. I ride a lot of slow technical tracks. The art is in having the right spring for your weight and the leverage ratio.

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    any pictures of your bike with coil?

    Quote Originally Posted by CCRiderKY
    I have been on the fence on this topic for quite some time and have been debating going coil. Finally decided to go for it, and bought a '03 Vanilla RL from Fox last week. I originally ordered a 700# spring based on the spring chart, but after it was delivered, realized it was too stiff. Turned around and bought a 650#, after one ride and was AMAZED at the ride difference! The coil switch has made the bike come alive! I am getting the appropriate sag with the 650#, but ordered a 600# the other day to see the ride differences (I weigh 200# and ride very aggressive XC......can you say directonal changes through impact?!).

    I bought the RL for several reasons: 1. The coil Romic's track record has not been great. 2. The Fox shocks have a great track record and wonderful customer service. 3. The 5th Element coil is too expensive. 4. I prefer lockout based on my previous experience with the Float RL (ITCH). 5. I was concerned over the fit issue with the Vanilla RC. 6. At my weight and riding style, I do not truely see the benefit of ProPedal or Stable Platform tuning.

    Even though I bought the RL, I never had to use the lockout on my test rides. (I used it constantly with the Float.) I was making extended technical climbs that I had never been able to complete before without dabbing. Based on the nature of the coil spring and the "new" ride characteristics of the frame, I could have probably saved a little cash and searched for a Vanilla R in the 7.875 e2e. (However, if I like the 600#, I may need the lockout...we'll see.)

    The best thing about switching to coil is that I noticed the bike tracks so much better now. It actually feels as if the suspension linkage has stiffened. Like most, I have the flip-flop link in the slackest position due to the increase in e2e. I can not explain why the bike feels better, it just does. Prior to the coil purchase I was contemplating selling the frame and buying an SC Heckler. Banish that thought now!

    My next question is, does anybody want to buy a Float RL that is in great shape? How about a 700# spring for only $15.00?
    Hey now! hey cc rider any pictures of your bike with a coil? what kind of fork are you running?
    nice handle by the way
    some one posted that they were looking for the float look further back up the thread.
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    My next question is, does anybody want to buy a Float RL that is in great shape? How about a 700# spring for only $15.00?[/QUOTE]

    Hey CCRider,
    I'll take your 700 Lb spring for $15.00 or if you want I'll trade you my 600 Lb spring and save us both a couple of buck?
    Also, I have my Fox Float w/ItCh switch and the air pump for sale for $135.00 It was re-built last summer at Fox. EnduroGuy
    Contact me at [email protected]

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    New question here. Can I buy your RL if for sale?

    My next question is, does anybody want to buy a Float RL that is in great shape? How about a 700# spring for only $15.00?[/QUOTE]

    Hey,

    I'd like to buy your Float RL if its still for sale and if it'll fit an '03 enduro comp? Thanks and congratulations on your new shock!

    Charles

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    Float R or RL? Fit an '03 Enduro??? THanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by enduroguy
    My next question is, does anybody want to buy a Float RL that is in great shape? How about a 700# spring for only $15.00?
    Hey CCRider,
    I'll take your 700 Lb spring for $15.00 or if you want I'll trade you my 600 Lb spring and save us both a couple of buck?
    Also, I have my Fox Float w/ItCh switch and the air pump for sale for $135.00 It was re-built last summer at Fox. EnduroGuy
    Contact me at [email protected][/QUOTE]

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    ... and if we just ... Sorry For Delay On Pics...Working Too Hard!

    Finally got back to my home computer!! Here are a few of the pics I took tonight. Not the best, but I will have better pics after I clean her up.

    My 600# spring came in today, so I will try it out tomorrow. We plan on multiple runs on a few trails, so I will switch between the 600# and 650# on separate runs to get the best idea of which spring rate is best.

    As for the 700# spring, send me an e-mail at ccandcc"at"insightbbcom, or call me at 270-843-8174. (Put a squiggly for the "at" and a "dot" before the com.) Same goes for the FLOAT RL. It should fit the '03's with no problem.

    '02 Enduro frame (2nd warranty replacement), Race Face cockpit and cranks, King headset, Shimano shifters/brakes/deraileurs, '04 Z1 FR, '03 Vanilla RL, Crossmax XL tubeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCRiderKY
    >> '02 Enduro frame (2nd warranty replacement), Race Face cockpit and cranks, King headset, Shimano shifters/brakes/deraileurs, '04 Z1 FR, '03 Vanilla RL, Crossmax XL tubeless.

    Hey KYRIDER, (Nice Ride !)
    What were the specific details/problems for the TWO warranty frames?

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by enduroguy
    I currently have a Vanilla RC on my Enduro and I run a 600 Lb spring, but I weigh in at 210-220 Lbs w/out gear and it works perfect. You will need to make a spacer to move the spring further up the shaft but it is really easy to do. I used a .25 headset spacer that I cut roughly in half and then formed around a socket. It took a little trial and error but it fits perfectly! I have a sketch I can fax over or maybe scan and e-mail over. I am hoping to get some pictures tomorrow. If I do I'll post them. This is such a great improvement in the rear suspension especially if you deal w/rocky terrain. Feel free to e-mail me for more info! Don the EnduroGuy!
    Is this the shock with a piggy back on it? and if so....do you have a picture of it? I would love to make this mod, but just don't see how it could fit? Your assitance would be a big help.

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    Information On Warranty Frames & Ride Reviews (long)

    Regarding the two warranty frames....

    I originally ordered an Enduro Pro frameset (Black w/Red). It was one of the very first batches, so any and all of the of the recall issues affected my new ride. I can not remember the order, so here it goes: 1. Bad disc brake tabs (total rear end replaced by Specialized), 2. Frame not clear coated so all the stickers came off (nothing done because I actually liked the all Black look), 3. Frame actually split in two because of incorrect spec on upper shock eye welds (that was scary because I actually split the frame in two. I thought it was the shock losing air, but found out it was the seat tube junction failing!). On #3 they replaced the entire frame. There were no more Pro's available, so I opted for the Yellow Comp frame and kept my FLOAT RL shock that came on the Pro. Oh yeah, I also had one of the "bad" FLOATS that went out with the wrong seal kit. The shock kept leaking air until I found out there was a recall and was sent a new seal kit (worked like a charm after the seal upgrade).

    Just dumb luck I purchased one of the very first frames off the assembly line. Specialized ALWAYS helped me out (along with the shop I bought the frame from.) The frame was only $850 new, so I thought it was a good deal regardless of the issues. The Enduro has been to Fruita, Grand Junction, Moab, Phoenix, Sedona, Flagstaff and the 24 Hours of Adrenaline in Conyers, so it has served me well.

    Now for a detailed ride comparison between two spring rates. I weigh 200# and ride aggressive XC. No big drops, but I love the downhills and flats (at 200# with a 30+# bike,I have issues with uphill climbs). I originally purchased a 700# spring based on the spring calculator for my weight, but found it was too stiff. I ordered a 650#, and liked the ride, but it felt just a tad stiff. I liked the ride characteristics, but thought maybe a 600# would give a softer ride. I rode two identical laps on a favorite trail today, and switched between the 600# and 650#. At my weight, the 600# rode just like the FLOAT. A little mushy on the hills, and too much pedal "bob" when mashing gears. Also, on hills, I felt it allowed the head tube to slacken a bit, so that made the front end dance a little (this is where I would always lock the FLOAT out). When I rode the 650#, it kept the rear end down on climbs, and made the frame feel "tighter", and the rear end less prone to "dance" on fast, technical descents (like I said, I love going downhill). I still liked the feel of the bike on the trail (with the 650#), and it absorbed everything I threw at it.

    Proper spring weight is critical with coil shocks, so you may need to go through a little trial and error to get the "just right" feel you are looking for.

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    Spring weights

    KY,
    Roger on the warranty issues. I bought a 2002 Enduro and had prob with warr (upper shock mount welds) but they took care of me. My first float on my Kona in 2000 went back under warr because of seal bind. They too took care of me. I too have 300, 450,500, 600, 700 springs and I can safefully say that 95% of the peeps who buy coil springs stock on their bikes have the wrong spring rate. They wont know it till they have the chance to try optional springs. I am 165 and ride long aggressive XC and love drops and rocks. The 450 has been nice and plush, it does bottom out a bit sooner than I would prefer, hence the new 500. I will ride it soon.

    If you like the feel of the coil at the rear, be sure to go coil up front...READ my earlier posts on the subject - I hope they help. THis is a great bike!

    Peace
    I hope to be in Moab in 2 weeks for a week and hope to have my bike dialed in by then.

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    swapping the rear shock from air to coil on ENDURO FSR

    My new Vanilla R came yesterday. I am having difficulty getting the stainless shaft out of the eye of the rear end of the original float shock, out of the swinglink. May take to LBS.Does it have to be punched out with considerable force or is using a vice the go?

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    Are you referring to your eyelet bushing?

    If so, use a socket and a vice. A punch will damage the busing. I do not recommend reusing the bushing out of the Float. New bushings and reducers can be purchased for less than $15 from Fox. Good luck with the new shock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdyflat
    My new Vanilla R came yesterday. I am having difficulty getting the stainless shaft out of the eye of the rear end of the original float shock, out of the swinglink. May take to LBS.Does it have to be punched out with considerable force or is using a vice the go?

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    air to coil

    sorry that should have read difficulty getting shaft out of vanilla to fit aluminium bushings . Anyway I rang the Fox importers and they said press everything with a vice which I did .
    The bike rides much better w the Vanilla and the 650 lb spring , no bob and smooth as.
    On a another site Bear made a good point that you need to be careful to use a stiff enough spring to prevent the Vanilla from bottoming out often which would damage the shock.Whereas the float cant bottom out because it ramps up towards the end of the travel due to the physics of compressing air..

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    New question here. fender question

    Quote Originally Posted by CCRiderKY
    Finally got back to my home computer!! Here are a few of the pics I took tonight. Not the best, but I will have better pics after I clean her up.

    My 600# spring came in today, so I will try it out tomorrow. We plan on multiple runs on a few trails, so I will switch between the 600# and 650# on separate runs to get the best idea of which spring rate is best.

    As for the 700# spring, send me an e-mail at ccandcc"at"insightbbcom, or call me at 270-843-8174. (Put a squiggly for the "at" and a "dot" before the com.) Same goes for the FLOAT RL. It should fit the '03's with no problem.

    '02 Enduro frame (2nd warranty replacement), Race Face cockpit and cranks, King headset, Shimano shifters/brakes/deraileurs, '04 Z1 FR, '03 Vanilla RL, Crossmax XL tubeless.
    Nice bike CC Rider!
    hey what kind of rear fender thing do you have there? that is exactly what I need. the rear shock on the enduro gets a bit dirty in sloppy conditions - which pretty much is all the time during the spring.
    is it a home made deal or something you bought? how much and where did you get it?
    I'm getting one ASAP!
    Thanks!
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    Rear Fender Came From Specialized

    $15.00 from Specialized. Ordered it off their Web site. Does a good job keeping the mud off of the shock, does not affect the shock in any way and does not stand out too bad. Fits in place with 3 zip ties.

    IMHO, is well worth the $15.00.

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    Just wondering/

    Hi guys I was amazed that coil is really posible with the enduro. I bought my enduro 4 months ago I love the bike. its just that at first I thought i made a mistake of buying this bike because of the kind of ride i am doing i'm more of FR/DH although sometimes we need to climb, but from what i saw from here damm i can work out to replace my float with the coil, I'm heavy i'm 215 lbs..thats why most of the time if i see a big drop i'm trying to be careful and if i can, I stay away from it worrying i might break the shock but with an option to replace it with coil shock i think i'll be more confident enough. do you guys know where i can find a good source for the fox vailla rl i tried ebay not much. if you can provide the website or phone no. of a dealer i will appreciate it. I'm here at california. Have a fun and safe riding! Thanks

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    The RL Is No Longer Available After Market

    The RL was discontinued after 2003 because the ProPedal damping actually made the lockout a moot point. Personally, I prefer lockout. It is doubtful you can find an RL with the online retailers anymore, so give Fox a call. They may have some older models available. I picked up mine from the factory, but paid around $315 for it.

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    I put a vanilla R coil on my enduro months ago its a killer. Coupled with a Sherman firefly + a fat front tyre it makes a reasonable freeride bike. You need to work out the correct spring for your weight I weigh 175lb so a 550 is the go.There is an English website that will work out the correct spring based on weight + Leverage ratio.

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    Found a 8inch Vanilla RC

    I've been searching for a vanilla rc to go out back on my 03 enduro. I've found a 8 inch e2e but no specified stroke and a 500 x 2.30 spring. I've looked under fox website and did a quick search and did not find any 8 inch e2e. Do you think this could be a 7.875 and the guy is not accurate due to the 500 x 2.30 spring that comes with it?

    Gabe

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    Quote Originally Posted by upperbidwell
    I've been searching for a vanilla rc to go out back on my 03 enduro. I've found a 8 inch e2e but no specified stroke and a 500 x 2.30 spring. I've looked under fox website and did a quick search and did not find any 8 inch e2e. Do you think this could be a 7.875 and the guy is not accurate due to the 500 x 2.30 spring that comes with it?

    Gabe
    It could be an OEM shock that is only offered with a specific bike. Enduros come with a shock that is 7 5/8" (7.625) or so 7 3/4"(7.75) or 7 7/8" (7.875) is about as big as you want to go.
    Each increase in shock eye to eye is going to raise your BB and steepen your head angle. It might get to be too much for your frame and really screw up you feel and handling as an 8" eye to eye would really start messing with your geometry. I' d be careful. did you trybuying a new one? I bought mine new from Cycle path in Portland OR for a great price. Bill Larsen run the shop up there drop him an email and he should be able to hook you right up. [email protected]

    he also got me the bushing that fit my enduro for the shock
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlopex
    Hi guys I was amazed that coil is really posible with the enduro. I bought my enduro 4 months ago I love the bike. its just that at first I thought i made a mistake of buying this bike because of the kind of ride i am doing i'm more of FR/DH although sometimes we need to climb, but from what i saw from here damm i can work out to replace my float with the coil, I'm heavy i'm 215 lbs..thats why most of the time if i see a big drop i'm trying to be careful and if i can, I stay away from it worrying i might break the shock but with an option to replace it with coil shock i think i'll be more confident enough. do you guys know where i can find a good source for the fox vailla rl i tried ebay not much. if you can provide the website or phone no. of a dealer i will appreciate it. I'm here at california. Have a fun and safe riding! Thanks

    Arlopex

    I'd pass on the RL , get a Vanilla R and have it Pushed. They sell all the time on E-bay. As I understand it running a lock-out compromises the dampning.

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    Vanilla rc??????

    so is there any chance that we can see some pictures of this bad boy. I would really like to upgrade to that shock if it really is possible.

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    7.625"x2.00

    Does fox or 5th make a shock in these dimentions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyBread
    Does fox or 5th make a shock in these dimentions?
    fox make the oem version of the air shock in that dimension. if you go coil you can put a 7.75 or a 7.875 on there and make it work. my coil was a fox Vanilla RL 7.875
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