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    Stumpjumper FSR comp 2007 or wait for Stumpjumper FSR comp 2008

    Been reading posts all day about Stumpjumper FSR comp 2007 model, have seen one brand new for £1300, im thinking shall i buy this one or wait untill the 2008 model comes out?!? it would be aabout £200 extra im guessing aa they usually retail at £1500

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    couldnt say about the stumpjumper because the design seems quite a bit different. but i would probably get the 2007, i just really like the look of that bike and it rides great.

    I plan on buying an Epic and I am going to wait for the 2008 model so i can get the Specialized Brain

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    I will wait, I mean the 07 maybe will be a little more cheap for the nexts moths so wait maybe you can get it for a really good deal, but the 08 is new geometry so that means that you 07 will be hard to sell later. i willl wait and see how works the 08 models.

    I have the 2006 Stumpy expert so aybe i will sell it for 2000 USD and buy the 2008 but I have to put a extra 1500 USD, so i dont really know but the 08 looks great!!! check the spacialized.com

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    Any idea when the '08 Stumpys will be available in the US? Thanks.

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    I dont know but I just bought the 07 model, and Im really Happy with it

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    I don't recall seeing a "Comp" version of the new FSR for 2008.

    Also, I doubt the new geometry would make a real difference, since the 2007 version is actually a nicer design if you ask me. If it looked like a Trek Y22, then I'd understand.

    Why not compare parts to parts, and price to price? Aside from that, a new 2007 should be as good as a new 2008.

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    I just road a 07 SJ FSR comp and was quite impressed with the ride. The Triad and the Float R have the same ride feel and balance out the frame nicely (at least on the smooth AC). The frame is improved over the previous SJ and FSR XC models with M5 alloy and a cast "spider" one piece seat tube and a two pieced forged shock link that is bolted together with seal bearings on the lower shock eye. These two frame revisions alone improve the chances that the four outer shock link bearings are in alignment as opposed to the to the old frames; where the 2 pieced shock link and the 4 pieced seat tube were welded together in a jig. Keeping these old style frame components in alignment during the cool down phase is very hard to do, which is why the 07 SJ FSR shock link and seat posts should have much better consistency (quality control) from bike to bike. The 07's chain stays are asymmetrical and the forged drop-outs look more substantial as well. The top tube also looks like it is straighter and orientated at a shallower angle, which means it is inherently stiffer. Also the section of the TT has increased and larger effective welds can be applied to the seat tube, the head tube and bottom tube. The ORE bottom tube has a much larger section/diameter and bends into the seat tube-bottom bracket. The bottom bracket is now position below the bottom tube. The forged BB and chain stay link have also been reworked. All of these revisions on paper improved the previous SJ frame weaknesses; however why is Specialized producing this frame for only one model year? Because the 2008 frame is cheaper to make by eliminating the expensive seat tube. I assume the 07 SJ FSR frame will eventually make it to the FSR XC line in the near future. The one negative thing I see with the 08 SJ is the possibility of being stuck with Specializedís proprietary spike shock and fork.

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    The spesh. fork and shock only come on the higher end models, fork on the pro carbon and shock on the expert I think. The only thing I like is that you dont have to chop your seatpost any more because theres more clearence. Other than that, a mini enduro sl. No more talas, but the comp didnt come with one anyway. Personally, I like the 07 better.

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    How about some catalog images?

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    I chose the '07 Comp

    I asked myself the same question. Based on the website specs, the '07 bike seemed like a much better deal. Picked it up yesterday. Rode it today. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinski101
    Been reading posts all day about Stumpjumper FSR comp 2007 model, have seen one brand new for £1300, im thinking shall i buy this one or wait untill the 2008 model comes out?!? it would be aabout £200 extra im guessing aa they usually retail at £1500
    Am in the same situation, thinking I'll get the 07. Looks better, seems to be the same if not better on paper.. hmm...

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    I would go for an 07. You can get one now, and probably on sale or at a better deal. With your savings you can get a ligther rear cassette.

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    go to the following link for specs and pics

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=324552

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    Both 08 and 07 still Horst-Link design. Uninterrupted seat-post design & longer wheelbase (do a search if you prefer a longer wheelbase design - I don't) are some of the update design.
    From the spec i've read (COMP, ELITE & EXPERT).
    Just my opinion.
    If you want the "so-much-higher-price-increase" of 08' with some down-graded "Customized-For-Specialized" components and "maybe" just 1 or 2 better components (compare to 07'), sure go ahead, get the 08'. To some, they'll be happy to get the latest model year.

    Sad to see they did not spec in Fox Talas for this part XC & part Trail bike on the 08'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nizee
    Both 08 and 07 still Horst-Link design. Uninterrupted seat-post design & longer wheelbase (do a search if you prefer a longer wheelbase design - I don't) are some of the update design.
    From the spec i've read (COMP, ELITE & EXPERT).
    Just my opinion.
    If you want the "so-much-higher-price-increase" of 08' with some down-graded "Customized-For-Specialized" components and "maybe" just 1 or 2 better components (compare to 07'), sure go ahead, get the 08'. To some, they'll be happy to get the latest model year.

    Sad to see they did not spec in Fox Talas for this part XC & part Trail bike on the 08'.
    I kinda love/hate them not spec-ing the talas on the new stumps this year. I love it because honestly, since using my 120 on the dh's, I never ever use my 140 setting anymore. Too slow, and the 120 is perfect. And on the uphills, if it's technical, I also leave it in my 120 setting. This is where my hate part comes in. I'm lazy, and not a strong climber because I'm inconsistent. So climbing up my local mountain (3 mile non stop grind, fireroad) I like to use the 100mm setting. On long climbs, I want to use whatever advantage I can, so I use the 100mm setting. My .02

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    Knowing about UK prices I would have said when I first saw the 08's the 07, but I'm warming to the 08's like when I first saw the pick of the 07 SL in cream on that staircase I didnt like it at first but all of a sudden I thought I must have it. It's the same with the 08 comp and I'm nigh on certain that it will be an improvement. Choices Choices. Ask for more discount on the 07's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catnash
    Knowing about UK prices I would have said when I first saw the 08's the 07, but I'm warming to the 08's like when I first saw the pick of the 07 SL in cream on that staircase I didnt like it at first but all of a sudden I thought I must have it. It's the same with the 08 comp and I'm nigh on certain that it will be an improvement. Choices Choices. Ask for more discount on the 07's?
    You are likely to find some killer deals on 07's, providing there are still in stock - i suggest you look now. I'm under the impression that several, if not, many are going into 'panic buy' for the 07's models, since 08 colours are not looking particularly favourable or stylish..

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    Oh and I've had a look around for 07's in small, they look all sold out, but that's without asking Specialized.

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    Has anyone seen any specs for the '08 stumpys yet? Can't find anything anywhere!

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    Try this link to the '08 Stumpy FSR on the Specialized site:

    http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...sp?sid=08SJFSR

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    Here's a quick comparison. I included some pics at the end. (pardon the wide-screen)

    <pre>
    Year Item Description
    2007 BOTTOM BRACKET Truvativ GXP, sealed outboard cartridge bearing
    2008 BOTTOM BRACKET Shimano M542, 2pc custom for Specialized
    2007 BRAKE LEVERS Avid Juicy 5
    2008 BRAKE LEVERS Custom Avid Juicy 5 SL, hydraulic disc
    2007 CASSETTE / FREEWHEEL Shimano HG50, 9-speed, 11/34t
    2008 CASSETTE FREEWHEEL Shimano HG-50, 9-speed, 11-34t
    2007 CHAIN SRAM PC-951 w /Power Link
    2008 CHAIN SRAM PC-971 w/ Power Link
    2007 CHAINRINGS 22S/32A/44A 4mm thick outer, 4 bolt 104/64mm
    2008 CHAINRINGS 22S/32A/44A, 4 bolt 104/64mm
    2007 CRANKSET Truvativ Stylo, 2pc crank/BB
    2008 CRANKSET Shimano A/A/S 2pc custom
    2007 FORK Fox Float 120 RL, 120mm, rebound/compression adj, lock out, alloy steerer
    2008 FORK Fox Float 120 RL, 120mm travel, rebound/compression adjust, lock out, alloy steerer
    2007 FRAME FSR M5 manipulated alloy frame w/ Transform monocoque TT, sealed cartridge bearing pivots and rear shock mount, replaceable derailleur hanger, two sets of water bottle bosses, disc only, 120mm travel
    2008 FRAME All new Stumpjumper FSR M5 manipulated alloy frame w/ ORE TT/DT, sealed cartridge bearing pivots, DMD Direct Mount F. Der, replaceable derailleur hanger, disc only, 120mm travel
    2007 FRONT BRAKE Avid Juicy 5, hydraulic disc, G2 Clean Sweep S/M: 185mm rotor, L/XL 203mm rotor
    2008 FRONT BRAKE Custom Avid Juicy 5 SL, hydraulic disc, 185 and 203mm rotor
    2007 FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano M581 LX, 34.9mm clamp, bottom swing, dual pull
    2008 FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano M581 LX, DMD, top swing, dual pull
    2007 FRONT HUB Specialized Stout disc, sealed cartridge bearing, high/low flange, 32h
    2008 FRONT HUB Specialized Hi Lo disc, 28h CNC flange and disc mount, sealed cartridge bearing, 9mm DT RWS alloy QR
    2007 FRONT TIRE Specialized Resolution Pro 26x2.1", 120TPI, aramid bead, dual compound
    2008 FRONT TIRE S-Works The Captain 26x2.0", 120 TPI, tubeless ready aramid bead, dual compound
    2007 HANDLEBARS Specialized XC low rise 31.8mm OS bar, 2014 butted alloy, 6 degree up, 8 degree backsweep, 620mm width
    2008 HANDLEBARS Specialized XC low rise 31.8mm bar, 6066 butted alloy, 6 degree up, 8 degree backsweep, 640mm wide
    2007 HEADSET 1 1/8" Threadless, alloy cups w/ 10mm insertion, sealed cartridge bearing
    2008 HEADSET 1 1/8" threadless, alloy cups w/ 10mm insertion, sealed cartridge bearing
    2007 PEDALS Shimano M-520 SPD
    2008 PEDALS Crank Brothers Smarty custom for Specialized
    2007 REAR BRAKE Avid Juicy 5, hydraulic disc, G2 Clean Sweep S/M: 160mm rotor, L/XL 185mm rotor
    2008 REAR BRAKE Custom Avid Juicy 5 SL, hydraulic disc, 160 and 185mm rotor
    2007 REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM X-9, 9-speed, long cage
    2008 REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM X-9, 9-speed, mid cage
    2007 REAR HUB Shimano M-525 disc, 32h, alloy QR
    2008 REAR HUB Shimano custom M525SL hub for Specialized, 32h, alloy QR
    2007 REAR SHOCK Fox Triad, custom on-the-fly 3-position switch 1) lock out 2) Open 3) ProPedal pedal assisting damping, adjustable rebound, 7.75x1.75"
    2008 REAR SHOCK Fox Triad, custom on-the-fly 3-position switch 1) lock out 2) Open 3) ProPedal pedal assisting damping, adjustable rebound, 7.25x1.75"
    2007 REAR TIRE Specialized Resolution Pro 26x2.1", 120TPI, aramid bead, dual compound
    2008 REAR TIRE S-Works The Captain 26x2.0", 120 TPI, tubeless ready aramid bead, dual compound
    2007 RIMS DT custom for Specialized X430, 24mm w/eyelets, 32h
    2008 RIMS DT Swiss custom for Specialized X420, 24mm w/ eyelets, 28/32h
    2007 SADDLE Specialized BG Rival, hollow Cro-Mo rails
    2008 SADDLE Specialized XC MTB, hollow Cr-Mo rails, SL foam
    2007 SEAT BINDER 7050 hard annodized alloy collar w/ QR, 34.9mm clamp ID, black
    2008 SEAT BINDER Alloy collar w/ QR, 34.9mm clamp ID
    2007 SEAT POST 2014 butted alloy, black, 30.9 x 350/400mm
    2008 SEAT POST 2015 butted alloy, two bolt non-setback, 30.9 x 350/400mm
    2007 SHIFT LEVERS SRAM X-7, aluminum trigger 9-speed
    2008 SHIFT LEVERS SRAM X-7, aluminum 9-speed trigger
    2007 SPOKES DT Swiss 1.8mm stainless, black, alloy nipples
    2008 SPOKES DT Swiss 1.8mm stainless, alloy nipples
    2007 STEM Specialized adjustable rise, OS 31.8, 3D forged w/CNC finish
    2008 STEM Specialized adjustable rise, 31.8mm clamp, 3D forged w/CNC finish
    2007 TAPE / GRIPS Specialized MTB, dual density
    2008 TAPE/GRIPS Specialized thin lock on grip, dual density
    2007 TUBES Specialized Ultralight 26x2.0", presta
    2008 TUBES Specialized Ultralite, .6mm, presta
    </pre>


    Changes?

    1) Bottom Bracket/Crankset. Shimano A/A/S(??)/M542 vs Truvativ Stylo/GXP. I can't find any info on the M542. I hate when there's no info on OEM parts.
    2) Brakes. Juicy 5 vs Juicy 5 SL. Similar?
    3) Chain. PC 951 --> PC 971. Woohoo!
    4) Frame change of course.
    5) Front Hub. No idea what possible changes mean.
    6) Tires. Looks like the new ones are "tubeless-ready". Not sure why 2007 ones say 2.1"; mine were 2.0
    7) Handlebars. Wider (20m); different alloy ..
    8) Pedals. Was Shimano M-520 but now Crank Brothers Smarty
    9) Rear Derailleur: Same X-9, but old is Long-cage, new is Mid-cage. Meh.
    10) Rims. DT Swiss X420 on new, X430 on the old. I wonder, does that man 10 grams lighter?
    11) Grips. New ones are lock-on? Hmm.
    12) Tubes. Not sure what the old size was, but new are .6mm

    Everything else seems the same or unimportant changes. Same fork, Same Triad shock.

    Of course the "FEEL" will be quite different, I would think. But its hard to tell without testing it out.

    2007 picture:
    <img src="https://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/2007/bikes/SJ_FSR_Comp_Army_Green.jpg"></img>
    2008 picture:
    <img src="https://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/2008/bikes/9383-41_l.jpg"></img>

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    I just picked up an '07 test bike and I absolutely love it. I considered the '08 for a minute but the cost vs performance was significant factor. I compared to my other hobby motorcycle racing and asked myself if my skill as a rider warrants the lastest and greatest equipment. Answer: No I'm not a pro and thus the my skill level is probably no where the limit of the bike. I see all the time on the race track, guys with the lastest and greatest getting spanked by the guy riding the old tech. I do like the bling factor though but the savings to the wallet far out wieghed that. Just my $.02.. Still would love to ride an '08 to justify..

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    Would the A/A/S designation for the cranks mean Aluminum/Aluminum/Steel in the rings?

    Also, the geometry seems different enough that the new Stumpy FSR should feel even more like a XC bike than the 07, and I am not sure if I would like that. I prefer XC style positioning, but I with the 07 I finally have a bike that fits right. I like the position of the bar relative to my saddle height and the rider is still somewhat biased to the rear (and that helps my elbows a lot). The new bike with the shorter fork (120 vs. 140 on my Elite) might keep me over the bars a bit more. This would help during climbs (the 120mm at 07 geometry still isn't enough to keep the front wheel on the ground) and I think the overall changes might help with climbing even further.
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    Go for the 2007 model in my opinion! I love mine, and doubt I would even swap it for a brand new 2008 model even if they offered it for free!
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    It's nice to see that they dumped the stylo. That thing was a piece in my opinion.

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    I had to go with an 07 Pro, just got it on Monday. I got it for 600 cheaper than the MSRP of the '08 Expert. Components are much better IMO and I like the interrupted seat tube design.

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    I'm going with the 2008 Comp for myself. I've had the oportunity to check out the spec that will come on the bike by building up a 2008 Epic Comp at the shop i work at. Heres a list of the things i liked about the new spec.

    A. Front Hub: Spesh is using the new 9mm quick release axle design from dt-swiss. Its quite easy to use and is much stiffer than a normal quick release, and works much better then the old design of 9mm.
    B. Mid Cage X.9 - Shifts far better IMO, you just need to know how to shift
    C. Lock On Grips : Small change, but big on feel, they're nice and thin.
    D. A/A/S Crankset : Seems to be just like the XT-760 crank, possibly just slightly heavier, or whatever.
    E. Juicy 5 SL customs : Different lever and body compared to the normal Juicy 5s, apparently lighter too.

    All of this equals? A sick spec for this bike. And its identical to the Stump FSR Comp.

    I'll be ordering myne tommorow
    Everyones got a little weight weinee in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by half_man_half_scab
    It's nice to see that they dumped the stylo. That thing was a piece in my opinion.
    Why do you say that? I've never had problems with mine. My buddy had his crank arm crack in half on is cannondale, now that is a piece.

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    I just got my SJ Elite 07. I tried it this morning, it's so sweet, specs wise, this is a killer . I already got a 25 miles on it..and I also got a good deal on my local LBS on this. their last stock. :-)....so hurry if you want the 07, I think theirs a panic buying going on. just my 2 cents.

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