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    Official Specialized Camber Thread

    well, the first thread seemed to have a lot of speculation and questions...
    now that the camber is beginning to trickle into shops and hit the trails, i figure we'd get a new thread going with some real life experiences and pics...from us who are really riding them (not just getting them for free to test ride).
    here's my 2011 camber elite..size medium..






    here's what i've changed:
    -sram x.7 drivetrain
    -truvativ stylo crankset
    -pg990 cassette
    -pc991 chain
    -phenom saddle
    -sunline v1 am wheelset
    -maxxis advantage front / maxxis larsen tt rear tires (set up tubeless)
    -esi chunky grips
    -crank bros egg beater sl pedals
    -truvativ stylo race 100mm stem
    -truvativ stylo race seatpost

    weighs in at 27lb 10oz...which for a 5" travel trail bike is pretty good imo.
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    new thread fail.

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    i'll try to get it going... i want a camber pro 29er!

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    Man. The Camber seems so legit. I enjoyed my FSRxc, but it always seemed like it was the cheap bastard child of specialized's FS line up. The Camber on the other hand, looks to have fixed that.
    Anyone else ever think the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRY2KPUP
    Man. The Camber seems so legit. I enjoyed my FSRxc, but it always seemed like it was the cheap bastard child of specialized's FS line up. The Camber on the other hand, looks to have fixed that.
    Anyone else ever think the same thing?
    just wait til you get on a camber and pedal it...the fsr xc is a pogo stick compared to the new suspension layout by specialized.

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    That is a nice looking bike! Why did you change out the parts you did? What crank was on the original bike? Just curious. Looks great, I hope more people join in and post their Cambers as more of them hit the shops.

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    Im looking forward to seeing and reading more about them too. My fiancee and I are looking for an FSR bike for her, and have been eye balling a few Mykas, as well as a SWEET 2010 Safire Expert (for the brain) over the past few months. Im wondering if there will be a D4W model of this here Camber?

    Either way, sweet bike!

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    Why all the upgrades so soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz
    That is a nice looking bike! Why did you change out the parts you did? What crank was on the original bike? Just curious. Looks great, I hope more people join in and post their Cambers as more of them hit the shops.
    stock crank is in the first pic- deore octalink..
    swapped parts cause i needed a longer stem (shipped with a 75mm) and seapost (shipped with a 350mm)...
    had a line on the sunline wheelset, so i took advantage and i prefer sram over shimano.
    absolutely no reason to swap any parts other than wanting to, not needing to..
    outta the box, this thing was ready to rock!!
    i'm kind of a funny guy i guess....the elite only comes in one color combo, and i wanted to make sure mine was set apart...

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    2011 Specialized Camber Comp...

    Here is a pic of my Camber from a couple of weeks ago. I have changed a couple of things since then.

    I love this bike......
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Official Specialized Camber Thread-camber-pic.jpg  


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    I'm like 89% on the Camber being my next bike, its the heat.
    Hardrock 29er, Niner EMD9, Cannondale F29, Camber Expert, 650b Nickel all gone.
    2014 Giant Anthem 27.5 here.

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    that's pretty damn close to 100%...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    Here is a pic of my Camber from a couple of weeks ago. I have changed a couple of things since then.

    I love this bike......
    aren't you 6' and your bike's a medium?

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    89% of the time it works all the time...
    Hardrock 29er, Niner EMD9, Cannondale F29, Camber Expert, 650b Nickel all gone.
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    bspate, is that a storm sl rotor on your camber?

    if so, where did you get it?

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    I don't get it... Why replace mid grade parts with a different flavor of mid grade parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kroe
    I don't get it... Why replace mid grade parts with a different flavor of mid grade parts?
    i prefer my mid grade parts to be lighter and have 1:1 actuation ratio.

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    Hoping to own one soon

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    Cell pic of mine. Got it today and took it for a 20 min ride


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    i prefer my mid grade parts to be lighter and have 1:1 actuation ratio.
    Was that weight you posted before or after?
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    28lbs 10oz outta the box
    27lbs 10oz currently

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    I'm going to be getting a Camber Elite very soon. I will be swapping in my SLX cranks and shifters soon after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    aren't you 6' and your bike's a medium?
    I am 5ft. 11in. and about 202lbs......and yes, it is a medium. I have a rockhopper also that is a 17" bike and it feels small, but I love it feeling that way......like a BMX bike.

    The medium Camber felt a little cramped in its stock form for me, but after a few changes, I love it. It still feels small enough in the technical stuff to throw it around, but also feels tall and comfy when I'm just pedaling in the saddle. I think it's a perfect balance of a bike.

    It came home at 31.6 lbs.......it's at just under 30lbs right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dstdub
    bspate, is that a storm sl rotor on your camber?

    if so, where did you get it?
    If you mean brake rotors......then no, they are the stock ones that came with the piece of crap brakes. I hate them and they have way too much play in the levers and are very weak. It's a good thing I don't brake a lot where I ride.

    I don't have a lot of experience with hydraulic brakes......but I know they have to be better than what I'm dealing with right now. My BB5's on my cheaper bikes are better.......so something is not right. I may need to look up bleeding and adjusting hydraulic brakes....hhmm.

    What's the best rear hydraulic brake setup for under $150??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    If you mean brake rotors......then no, they are the stock ones that came with the piece of crap brakes. I hate them and they have way too much play in the levers and are very weak. It's a good thing I don't brake a lot where I ride.

    I don't have a lot of experience with hydraulic brakes......but I know they have to be better than what I'm dealing with right now. My BB5's on my cheaper bikes are better.......so something is not right. I may need to look up bleeding and adjusting hydraulic brakes....hhmm.

    What's the best rear hydraulic brake setup for under $150??
    Ya man....I can't believe they would put those brakes on that bike. Sometimes specialized really disappoints. The camber looks good at $1650, reality is..it's really closer to $1900 due to immediate need for brakes..etc.
    You might be able to adjust the pads in closer. Look up the "business card" adjustment and see if it will work for those. The thickness of a bus. card is what you want to see between rotor and pads.
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    I got my Camber pro frame in small, and planned to swap the components of 2009 XC FSR... will post soon.
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    added some new pics up top.

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    I just ordered a Camber Pro. Should be here in a month or so... I will continue to ride my 2007 FSR Stumpy. Its going to be a long wait

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    Just finished changing frames from the old 09 FSR XC to this new 2011 Camber..

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    best camber so far!

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    Crash4 -

    Very nice...whats weight?

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    Damn, sweet ride!!! I'm really luvin the camber, bike looks hot.

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    be careful crash4, with all that seatpost and the 100mm stem that's on there the people around here will be telling you that your bike doesn't fit you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    be careful crash4, with all that seatpost and the 100mm stem that's on there the people around here will be telling you that your bike doesn't fit you!
    Sure is a sign that a bigger frame prob. would have been best though.
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    is mine setup like it's too small for me?
    (first pics up top)

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    is mine setup like it's too small for me?
    (first pics up top)
    A smaller size helmet would probably be in order.


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    My new (1 month) friend...
    I have upgraded to X7 rear derailleur, X7 shifters, SRAM 980 cassette and SRAM PC991 chain.





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    I test rode a Camber Elite 29er a few days ago and really liked it, and am really thinking about getting one. The brakes seemed fine to me -- they're "pieces of crap"? Here's what Spec's site says they are:

    BRAKES: Custom Avid Elixir 3 R SL, hydraulic disc, tool-less reach adjust, alloy backed organic pads, G3 Clean Sweep rotor

    BRAKE LEVERS: Custom Avid Elixir 3 SL hydraulic, tool-less reach adj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    is mine setup like it's too small for me?
    (first pics up top)
    Would have to see you on it. How much post is in the seat tube? It may just be a fine, but looks like its barely in there...350mm posts aren't very long.
    It could just be a visual thing looking at it on here though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmtbiker
    I test rode a Camber Elite 29er a few days ago and really liked it, and am really thinking about getting one. The brakes seemed fine to me -- they're "pieces of crap"? Here's what Spec's site says they are:
    I thought they were talking about the Camber Comp which has Tektro Draco brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larlev
    Would have to see you on it. How much post is in the seat tube? It may just be a fine, but looks like its barely in there...350mm posts aren't very long.
    It could just be a visual thing looking at it on here though.
    it's a 400mm post...the min insertion line is 1" in the frame.

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    Where do you find out min insertion for seat post? I have the stock 350 for the camber and just wondering what the min insertion for those are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe23
    I thought they were talking about the Camber Comp which has Tektro Draco brakes.
    Aaaahhh. I'd never heard of those. All the rest have Elixir: 3 SL, R SL, 5 SL or whatever. I don't know the diffs between those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgFA
    Where do you find out min insertion for seat post? I have the stock 350 for the camber and just wondering what the min insertion for those are.

    Usually there is a line on the seatpost that says minimum insertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmtbiker
    Aaaahhh. I'd never heard of those. All the rest have Elixir: 3 SL, R SL, 5 SL or whatever. I don't know the diffs between those.

    The Dracos are ok - they do stop you pretty well. They are better than the Shimanos sets I have had on my previous bikes. I don't care for the levers myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    Usually there is a line on the seatpost that says minimum insertion.
    Oh ok. Thanks for the info. Never new that. You can tell Im a n00b.

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    Or a hole in back of seat tube. Looks like right under the "A" in camber

    Johnny....I read a 350mm comes with medium. How are you fitting...leg length wise? Did you check with your heel/knee bend like I mentioned before
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgFA
    Oh ok. Thanks for the info. Never new that. You can tell Im a n00b.

    See this is exactly why some of us question the fit sometimes. By you not knowing this...which is not your fault really. Some crappy lbs employee could have jacked it way out to make a bike fit you, not that they would...but we all know the type I'm referring to.

    It's very dangerous and bad for frame if it's not in past the minimum...actually more is better. I always have mine in 1"-2" past minimum(hole in seat tube)
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    I would make sure that the post is below the minimum insertion line on the seat tube. Protecting the frame is more important than the post.

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    it is...you can see the post through the hole in the seat tube...and i was just being facetious about my bike fitting me...my bike fits me like a glove.

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    I finally got a chance to demo a Camber Expert. Took it on the trails for about 4 hours yesterday. I have fallen in love. The bike feels perfect in every way. I still can't get over how light it is compared to the FSR XC I rode last year. The Reba/Fox combo works beautifully. I really like the Dyna-Sys set-up on the Expert. I was originally going to buy an Elite but I may be getting an Expert now.

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    Which ones have Dyna-Sys? I can't tell on Spec's web site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    it is...you can see the post through the hole in the seat tube...and i was just being facetious about my bike fitting me...my bike fits me like a glove.
    Maybe so....have you checked your position like described above? It's still something you should do if you haven't already
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmtbiker
    Which ones have Dyna-Sys? I can't tell on Spec's web site.
    Only the Expert has Dyna-Sys. The Pro uses a SRAM 2X10, the Comp and Elite use a
    3X9

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    I have a couple of questions for folks riding the Camber Comp:
    How does the Ario rear shock work regarding suspension bob?;
    How are the Tektro brakes regarding stopping power and feel?.
    Last edited by nunomaia; 09-21-2010 at 05:48 AM.

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    My Camber came with a 350mm seatpost and it was right on the minimum insertion line......so I put on a 400mm post...and it's also lighter than the stock one.

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    @johnny, no worries, fits me perfectly.

    Tips the scale at 26.2 lbs, here are some details:

    - Truvative Noir crank
    - SRAM X0 shifters/rd
    - Formula K24 hydro / R1 formula rotors
    - Hope Pro 2 hubs / Am Class Rims/spokes
    - CB Candy SL pedal
    - 2.1 Nev front/ 2.0 Karma back
    - SL-K Fsa Carbon Hb / SL-K stem/ Oury grip
    - Cane Creak Carbon headset / Carbon bottle cage
    - Fizik Gobi saddle




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    Finally sat on and ordered a Camber yesterday - should have it in my mucky paws by middle of this week. Slightly excited as its my first full sus. It's not what I initially planned to get when I decided to go FS a couple of months ago but after riding it and the one that I had planned to buy I'm really pleased things have worked out as they have.

    Have gone for the Elite due to better component spec over the Comp, though having ridden the Comp it does seem like a good buy for the relatively small cost.

    Roll on the weekend and taking it for a proper blast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunomaia
    I have a couple of questions for folks riding the Camber Comp:
    How does the Ario rear shock work regarding suspension bob?;
    How are the Tektro brakes regarding stopping power and feel?.
    I'm around 155lbs, and use PP almost exclusively. I tested on some paved bike-paths (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket) and get absolutely no bob at all except when standing up and *really* pounding on some steep hills. Even then it's maybe 5% travel. If you're heavier you might see some bob. If you're clyde-ish you may see some bob even when locked out -- the Ario manual shows weight max for lock-out... above a certain weight lockout becomes more propedal-ish.

    Can't offer an opinion on the brakes as my elite has Elixr's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotoDengo
    I'm around 155lbs, and use PP almost exclusively. I tested on some paved bike-paths (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket) and get absolutely no bob at all except when standing up and *really* pounding on some steep hills. Even then it's maybe 5% travel. If you're heavier you might see some bob. If you're clyde-ish you may see some bob even when locked out -- the Ario manual shows weight max for lock-out... above a certain weight lockout becomes more propedal-ish.

    Can't offer an opinion on the brakes as my elite has Elixr's.
    you shouldn't have to worry about blowing the shock with the PP engaged unless doing some significant drops or casing jumps

    try to learn to operate the switch with muscle memory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    you shouldn't have to worry about blowing the shock with the PP engaged unless doing some significant drops or casing jumps

    try to learn to operate the switch with muscle memory
    Que? I haven't had any issues bottoming out. I was relaying my experience with the PP platform and how stiff it is for my weight. For heavier riders, I'm guessing you'll see some bob in PP or even lockout. But thanks for the info about bottoming out. I set mine to about 80% of travel on the roughest trail around here and keep it there. Hasn't gone any further than that.

    I do have to reach down to switch b/t PP and open -- I guess that's muscle memory, as the switch is on top and it's pretty easy to reach without even looking. But with all the ups and downs I usually keep it on PP and don't need to mess with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotoDengo
    Que? I haven't had any issues bottoming out. I was relaying my experience with the PP platform and how stiff it is for my weight. For heavier riders, I'm guessing you'll see some bob in PP or even lockout. But thanks for the info about bottoming out. I set mine to about 80% of travel on the roughest trail around here and keep it there. Hasn't gone any further than that.

    I do have to reach down to switch b/t PP and open -- I guess that's muscle memory, as the switch is on top and it's pretty easy to reach without even looking. But with all the ups and downs I usually keep it on PP and don't need to mess with it.
    I was replying to where you said:
    (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket)
    I interpreted that as you look down to the lever to switch it and you are concerned you may blow a seal on the shock going over bumps with PP engaged.
    09AS-Rsl/09Six

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    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash4
    @johnny, no worries, fits me perfectly.

    Tips the scale at 26.2 lbs, here are some details:

    - Truvative Noir crank
    - SRAM X0 shifters/rd
    - Formula K24 hydro / R1 formula rotors
    - Hope Pro 2 hubs / Am Class Rims/spokes
    - CB Candy SL pedal
    - 2.1 Nev front/ 2.0 Karma back
    - SL-K Fsa Carbon Hb / SL-K stem/ Oury grip
    - Cane Creak Carbon headset / Carbon bottle cage
    - Fizik Gobi saddle



    Nice!

    With that kind of gate, that pic is definitely from the PI

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??
    Wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    I was replying to where you said:

    (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket)

    I interpreted that as you look down to the lever to switch it and you are concerned you may blow a seal on the shock going over bumps with PP engaged.
    Ah, I see. No I was referring to looking down to see if the the shock was traveling at all while I was pedaling in PP. Staring down while pedaling on narrow, rooty singletrack would seem dangerous, and roots and rocks would cause the shock to engage.... making it hard to tell how stiff the platform was (the "travel gasket" I was referring to was the external o-ring on the stanchion -- probably bad wording and the source of confusion, sorry).

    Staring at it while hammering on it on a paved path is pretty safe, seems a good control test of the PP platform, and I could make sure any movement of the o-ring wasn't b/c I hit a pothole/crack. Was just testing the pedaling platform. Haven't geeked out on it yet to test small bump compliance.

    As an aside, I had the rear shock pressure too high for too long... maybe 40% travel. As I started hitting the more advanced sections of the area trails, I never knew what might be around the corner so I was wary of bottoming out the rear. I bounced around quite a bit, almost like my hardtail. After learning the trails better and hitting the biggest stuff they had to offer, I gradually opened it up to around 80% travel and softened up the rebound. Wow! Like I got a brand new bike all over again. Half of the roots just -- phhht -- up and disappeared

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??
    cassette, wheels, tires (run a folding tire tubeless and you'll lose ~1lb or so) saddle...but unfortunately, the fork is where the major weight difference between the comp and the elite, pro etc...comes into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    My new (1 month) friend...

    I love my Camber, and the component upgrade was just enough for me to justify the added expense of the elite. I like the red/white, but I really dig the Comp's color scheme. I would have gone with something like that if it were an option. Nice looking bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??
    I ordered a Camber Comp and made the deal with the LBS on the following upgrades:
    - 2Bliss tyres and tubeless
    - XT cassette
    - deore crankset

    These should lower the weight significantly and improve function. I don't plan on upgrading more soon but wheels would be the next logical step. Specialized has some new wheels this year at competitive prices, the Roval Trail I think.

    BTW, my Camber should arrive today.

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    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.
    I got hope pro2 laced to ztr flow with dt comp spokes for like $350 shipped from CRC
    hand built, 1800g, AM strength

    2100g is ridiculous for a trail bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotoDengo
    the Ario manual shows weight max for lock-out... above a certain weight lockout becomes more propedal-ish.
    What is the max weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.
    Try crazedlist... multi-city craigslist search. You're taking a bit of a chance, and you might get skeptical people not wanting to ship things or fear of getting ripped off, but you might find a decent deal on some used rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    I got hope pro2 laced to ztr flow with dt comp spokes for like $350 shipped from CRC
    hand built, 1800g, AM strength

    2100g is ridiculous for a trail bike

    what is CRC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    what is CRC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.
    There's also these hand built wheels from BWW for under $300. http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...&productId=153

    Total weight 1897g. Total price (including tax & shipping) $280.

    Thus far, they are working better than I expected
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    hmmm-me needs to rethink my wheelset. I was urged by several, even some on this site, to shy away from 1800 gram wheelsets due to my weight (budget) I did call BWW and email, but I did not hget a response. How long does it take them to build/deliiver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    hmmm-me needs to rethink my wheelset. I was urged by several, even some on this site, to shy away from 1800 gram wheelsets due to my weight (budget) I did call BWW and email, but I did not hget a response. How long does it take them to build/deliiver?
    there's "1800g" wheels that would buckle underneath you and there's "1800g" wheels that you'd never bend out of true on a trail bike.

    Weight is not a direct measure of strength.
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    Azonic outlaws black $300. Looked at crc. Wheels above were $300 pounds covert to us $ and they were $500

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    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=40780

    azonic outlaws are full-on DH/FR wheels. I had a pair. They were like cinder blocks
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    My Camber Comp arrived. It rides like a dream. And it is a gorgeous bike. The anodized gold bits look amazing... now I'm thinking of getting some more gold bling for her. Upgraded on buying: 2bliss tyres, tubeless, xt cassete and deore crankset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    there's "1800g" wheels that would buckle underneath you and there's "1800g" wheels that you'd never bend out of true on a trail bike.

    Weight is not a direct measure of strength.
    agreed...it's all about the build
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    I will say the DT wheels that come stock on these SUCK! Unrideable now. I have had a few different bikes from hardtails to full susp and have never had a wheel bend like this. Lambdamaster - thanks for the link, looks like no stock for a month for their factory builds as shown. I looked in the wheel section and see BWW but for the $ am looking at Shimano XT hubs - so we'd still be pushing 2000-2100 grams.

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    Got a chance to ride a Camber Elite 29'er. I actually preferred it to the Camber 26'er I rode a few weeks ago. I may be considering the 29'er for my next bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    the elite only comes in one color combo
    Heya, I know this post is weeks old and was probably the case at the time but the elite comes in 2 colour combo's now well atleast there were 2 options avalible to me here in New Zealand. I just picked up my elite at lunchtime like 3 hours ago and its sitting in my car while im stuck at work! man i can't wait to get home tonight hehe, I'll post up some pics of mine later on but I went for this colour in the Camber elite, it looks awesome, its a bronze'ish and black combo, the rear shock isnt white in Rl though its blck with the roxshox logo on it:


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    that's a European edition....cool combo.

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    Here is my new baby, excuse the crappy camera . I am yet to get it out on a trail but whipping around the block and the flat park down the road it was very nice, Bring on tomorrow!

    Camber Elite, I got a medium (I'm 5'11 but seems fine size wise), It's all totally standard currently, the only thing I may do is get a slightly longer stem.





    Very happy so far, and would like to thank everyone for helping me come to the camber decision

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    did your medium come with a 75mm stem?
    even though it's sepc'd from specialized with a 90mm stem, the med's i've seen are being shipped with 75mm ones.
    i put a 100mm on mine, and it fits me perfectly at 6' tall...

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    Yeah it's a 75mm stem by default.

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    My medium came with a 75mm as well. It was way too short. I now have a 110mm on it and it feels perfect.

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    Here's my Camber Elite - had it for a couple of weeks now and loving it. Came to this from an old HT Giant and cannot believe the difference it makes. Bumpy rooty trails are now my favourite riding, the twisty stuff is so much quicker and the steeper sections dont need a fore thought. I can't believe how much more responsive it is, both through the suspension and the steering although it's taking a bit of getting used too and I have already had a couple of falls, mostly due to not quite being used to having such decent brakes. My only issue is the weight - just over 28lb feels heavy to a girl like me - so planning a few changes to get that down a bit and personalise the bike.

    Would definately recommend it to anyone looking for a do-a-bit-of-everything full sus bike. It's made riding so much more fun and I know it's going to help me improve massively.

    GotoDengo - it's prob worth mentioning that like BigRuckus missus I choose this over the Myka. It's a better spec for less money and tbh the Myka just didnt fit me - I'm a 5'6 normal sized/shaped girl. I ended up with the medium Camber and bar the standover height not being quite as much as I'd like it's perfect

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    What were you riding before this? I read before a hardtail 29er. What specifically? Size as well. Why go back to 26 FS? Why not stay 29 FS (I'm aware some think this is unneccessary, but I don't know why)? Thinking about buying this bike.

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    a custom 2009 rockhopper expert, size 19" (always felt a tad big)


    ...before that, a 26" s-works carbon stumpy

    i've never had a 26" fs, so i didn't "go back" to anything.
    a fs 29er is a little too extreme atmo.
    too much going on...29er and fs seems redundant.
    i can definitely tell a difference on the exact same trail going back to the smaller wheels..i rode the 29er for 10 months...handles much better, more nimble and overall a faster bike.

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    scarlett, at 5'6", why in the world did you get a medium??!!

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    Here's my new Comp before I put the pedals on and lost the sticker. Maiden voyage today and she's nice and dirty now. Surprised at the quality of the disc brakes. Still not sure I'm a fan of the Ario...that might be my 1st upgrade. I think she's beautiful.


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    new pedals, 2.3 s-works eskar 2bliss front, 2.2 s-works captain 2bliss rear.






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    Damn Johnny, beautiful bike....how long till the only stock bit is the frame?

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    the brakes, fork and bars are the only thing left stock....

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    Still waay too shiny. Are you riding it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    scarlett, at 5'6", why in the world did you get a medium??!!
    Because the small was too small, and the large was too big?

    Seriously though, I planned to get a medium Myka but the WS geometry just didn't fit me at all - the medium was far too small and upright and the large too long. My current HT is a 17" Giant and the Camber has a shorter top tube length. The medium Camber feels great and the riding I have done with it so far has made me confident I chose the right bike in the right size.

    Also, I believe the Specialized sizing guide for the Camber does say the medium is for 5'6" upwards (I think it's 5'6"-5'11").

    ETA - Crap, just realised that it was my OH who was logged in - not me. Do'h... Scarlett!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVR
    Still waay too shiny. Are you riding it?
    hell yeah i am!
    it gets a healthy dose of Pedro's bike lust after every ride.

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    i have a sinus infection and can't ride and it sucks.
    just wanted everyone to know that.
    carry on.

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    Man up and ride!

    I get horrible sinus infections all the time and I still ride.

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    i usually do too....but this one sucks hardcore.
    i left work early for the first time in a few years yesterday.
    kicking my ass.

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    Just picked mine up yesterday - Camber Elite 29er

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    I've had a Camber Comp since mid September and am impressed with the geo but it is time to lighten it up and install some higher end components. I should of waited and just ordered an Elite but it was an impulse buy and just had to have it that day. Most of my riding is all over Texas.
    So far my list is:

    Stans Arch laced to Hope pro II tubliss
    Carbon bars ??
    Carbon Post ??
    Formula Brakes
    Forks ??
    Rear shock ??
    Stem ??
    and I am also wanting to change out the whole drive drain most likely to XTR

    If you could build your camber any way you wanted on a budget around $2K what would you do?

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    thomson post
    ritchey wcs stem
    bars are a preference, but i wouldn't go carbon
    formula r1 brakes
    arch to proII's is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco0220
    I've had a Camber Comp since mid September and am impressed with the geo but it is time to lighten it up and install some higher end components. I should of waited and just ordered an Elite but it was an impulse buy and just had to have it that day. Most of my riding is all over Texas.
    So far my list is:

    Stans Arch laced to Hope pro II tubliss
    Carbon bars ??
    Carbon Post ??
    Formula Brakes
    Forks ??
    Rear shock ??
    Stem ??
    and I am also wanting to change out the whole drive drain most likely to XTR

    If you could build your camber any way you wanted on a budget around $2K what would you do?

    A total of $2k or $2k worth of upgrades? No offense, but I would put the bike up for sale or try taking it back - I know one of the LBS in Dallas area has a 30 day exchange. I would then buy the Elite and have less $ involved in upgrading.

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    lol @ hannah montana username.

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    All in fun

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    do you put on a blonde wig and noone is able to recognize you?

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    So...I'm going to be the negative nancy in this thread. Stoked for all of you that got your bikes and I hope you enjoy them a ton! but....I test rode a 29er Camber at Rockville Park last week for an event my shop had. I set sag up appropriately and have ridden a stumpy fsr 26" and now my 2011 enduro.
    Does anyone who has a 29er Camber find it extremely uncomfortable in the saddle? It had the proper saddle size, 143mm and with proper sag set up, I still found the bike a pain to ride. Hopefully im just weird and no one else feels the same way, but I was curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannahMontana
    A total of $2k or $2k worth of upgrades? No offense, but I would put the bike up for sale or try taking it back - I know one of the LBS in Dallas area has a 30 day exchange. I would then buy the Elite and have less $ involved in upgrading.
    Usually in the past I have built from frame my last bike was a Yeti 575 and a Stumpy FSR before that, like I said it was an impulse buy, plus I have a very bad habit of not being able to leave anything alone (from firearms to cars and anything in between) no matter what parts are on it from the factory, even if I had waited for the elite I would do the same to an extent, I guess I get more satisfaction in upgrading than the initial purchase lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco0220
    Usually in the past I have built from frame my last bike was a Yeti 575 and a Stumpy FSR before that, like I said it was an impulse buy, plus I have a very bad habit of not being able to leave anything alone (from firearms to cars and anything in between) no matter what parts are on it from the factory, even if I had waited for the elite I would do the same to an extent, I guess I get more satisfaction in upgrading than the initial purchase lol

    I know that feeling. My Comp was an impulse (should have done the Elite). Have upgraded shifters and rear der., seatpost and wheels (had to do the wheels -the crappy 445 bent..)

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    don't worry guys...i got the elite and still changed almost everything on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    don't worry guys...i got the elite and still changed almost everything on it!
    so you know what I mean, plus for some reason the gold/white/and black just caught my eye

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    it's just the way 99% of bike guys are.
    a bike can come spec'd with awesome stuff, but it's human nature to have something unique!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larno
    Heya, I know this post is weeks old and was probably the case at the time but the elite comes in 2 colour combo's now well atleast there were 2 options avalible to me here in New Zealand. I just picked up my elite at lunchtime like 3 hours ago and its sitting in my car while im stuck at work! man i can't wait to get home tonight hehe, I'll post up some pics of mine later on but I went for this colour in the Camber elite, it looks awesome, its a bronze'ish and black combo, the rear shock isnt white in Rl though its blck with the roxshox logo on it:


    I wish I had that color option when I got mine. I'm fine with the white, I just like that one better (maybe I'd feel the same way about the white if I had gotten that one first). I actually like the Comp's scheme the best.

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    Hey rjg5......did you notice a difference with swapping out the 445 wheels??

    They seem pretty light and sturdy to me so far.....but would be willing to get some new ones if the weight difference and handling was noticeable.

    The wheels look to be weighing in at about 1900 grams for the set, but wasn't sure if it would be worth dropping $500 to save 200-300 grams of weight.

    I don't have much experience or knowledge in the wheelset department.

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    BSpate - I ended up with heavier wheels (Azonic Outlaws at 2310 grams) but I love them. I don't notice any wieght issue, but I do notice the lack of flex, which I like.

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    Help me out here guys:
    I looked at a Camber Elite today and thought it was very nice. I come from a bmx and dj background. I've owned and raced bmx xc cyclocross and road. The only full sus I've owned was a GT from '93. I am very used to and prefer the solid stiff feel of an aluminum hardtail that is very quick handling ala bmx. That said, age and old injuries are catching up so my lower back is more open to another full sus. I've test ridden one 29er HT and didn't like it at all. I actually went in today to look at a light 26 HT. They sold it so I was looking around and the Camber just looked sweet. So now I'm really thinking hard about this bike. I live in very flat terrain with tight techy trails. Tons of roots and sand. At least 50% of my riding will be on roads, paths, and commuting. I pretty sure I want a 26 but I'm just not sure if I want to go HT or FS. I'll do some small jumps and drops but my extreme days are behind me. And finally, the weight of it. Almost 30lbs and my current bike is barely 20 but fully rigid.

    All of that said, I guess my questions are: do you think I'd enjoy this bike? Should I give 29 HT more thought? A 26 HT or maybe a lighter 26 FS?

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    it has dual lockout on all models...won't be IDEAL for road, but it'll be better than bouncy bouncy...

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    HT all the way

    Like Johnny the Boy said, a Camber won't be ideal for road riding. Personally, I don't own a Camber, but I am extremely interested in purchasing one in the future (probably next year). If you're road riding 50% of the time, then I would use the $1800 that you'd spend on a Camber Elite and get either a lower end Stumpy HT or a high end Rockhopper. From the type of riding you do, I think that a quality HT will serve you better than a FS. Just my 2cents.
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    OK guys, I'm really having a hard time deciding what bike to get and need help. Leaning Camber (that's why I'm here) but nagged by the Stumpy FSR comp. Price aside, would you go Camber Expert, or Stumpy FSR comp? My last bike was a '98 M4 Stumpy hard tail. I rode it until this year and don't buy bikes often. I mostly ride XC trials and rarely ever jump. Just need to soak up the bumps on my beat up back. These would mostly be 2 to 5 inch tall roots, occasional 1 foot drops, and general single track small bumps. I test road a Camber comp but no LBS has FSR comps to test. I do some off road tri's but am a mid-packer at most races. I am worried that the FSR might feel weird having all that travel. Then again, the Camber isn't that much less travel wise. I'm sure either one would "work" but I want some honest opinions. This will be the bike I ride for the next 5 year at least. So, Camber Expert or Stumpy FSR comp? Thanks for your advice

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    I honestly think it's really close Scooper. I would ride both, but you've said you can't do that. The Stumpy has better components and more travel, but costs a bit more. I have a Camber Comp, and I hate the rear shock, but the Expert does not have the Ario.

    Sorry that's no help, but thought I'd say I think between these two it comes down to personal choice, not which is better. If money was not an argument, I would buy the Stumpy with more travel.

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    Just ordered a 29er pro model. Nice rootbeer and white color. Pro model has the front and rear fox shocks, carbon SRAM cranks. Should help with the weight a little...

    Anyone ride a camber pro or have any info on weight??

    LBS said it should be in early December!!

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    What is weird is that the ONLY thing I am hesitant about the Stumpy is the extra travel? Maybe it isn't that big of a deal. Am I crazy (loaded question) for not wanting too much travel? Problem is I am ignorant of FS to a large degree. Wish I could ride em both. Or buy them both!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    28lbs 10oz outta the box
    27lbs 10oz currently
    Nice lookin' bike.

    What did all the upgrades cost ya ?

    For $250 more you coulda got the Expert, which would have upgraded the fork to the Reba, and dropped about a lb right away wouldn't it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    What is weird is that the ONLY thing I am hesitant about the Stumpy is the extra travel? Maybe it isn't that big of a deal. Am I crazy (loaded question) for not wanting too much travel? Problem is I am ignorant of FS to a large degree. Wish I could ride em both. Or buy them both!

    Not at all. I would be all over a Stumpy FSR EVO myself if it had 20mm less travel.

    As it is I'm about 50/50 on whether to do the SJ and spacer down the fork and shock or order a Camber Pro and slap an RP23, X.0 RD, X9 shifters, and some new wheels on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    Not at all. I would be all over a Stumpy FSR EVO myself if it had 20mm less travel.

    As it is I'm about 50/50 on whether to do the SJ and spacer down the fork and shock or order a Camber Pro and slap an RP23, X.0 RD, X9 shifters, and some new wheels on it.
    What's the difference between the triad 3 thst is on the pro and the rp 23? Looks like they both have the 3 position pro pedal and the adjustable rebound..

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    RP23 has an additional 3 positions worth of tweaking for the Pro Pedal setting. Triad seemed fine to me however in my 2 days w/ a Camber Expert test bike, so the shock would be more of a want vs. need thing.

    I think I'd definitely want to swap shifters (and RD as a result) right off the bat as I was unable to get the brake levers setup inboard of the shifters w/o having the down shift triggers constantly digging into my thumbs.

    Wheels I'm mostly just concerned about long term durability on. I run about 210 lbs w/ a 3/4 full Camelbak and a bottle and while I don't get huge amounts of air, I do like to get air under my tires as often as possible. If they had the Roval Control Trails from the Stumpy in blue, I'd probably see if I could get the LBS to do a swap for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    RP23 has an additional 3 positions worth of tweaking for the Pro Pedal setting. Triad seemed fine to me however in my 2 days w/ a Camber Expert test bike, so the shock would be more of a want vs. need thing.
    I was originally buying the elite, but after going home and looking at the pro I really liked the component upgrades but wasn't looking to drop 3k on a new bike. Went back the next day and he gave me a great deal on the pro 29er for only $500 more than what I was getting the elite for...I think for the shock upgrades, carbon cranks, 2x10 drive, and a couple other touches it was well worth it...

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    2011 Camber Elite to go along with my 2008 Bighit III.
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    Here she is!

    After 11 years on an M2 hard tail, I took the plunge. Sold a few things, saved some, and got an early X-mas. I'll ride later and see how she does on some single track!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    After 11 years on an M2 hard tail, I took the plunge. Sold a few things, saved some, and got an early X-mas. I'll ride later and see how she does on some single track!
    What model is that? I haven't seen sliver with red trim yet. Looks sweet.

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    It is an Expert model. It is actually the "test bike" color but Specialized had it up for two weeks as an American color choice by mistake. When I had my LBS order one, they sent the black and red instead. Thinking they had made a mistake, we got in touch. Long story short I was able to get them to send a test bike color. The red and black is called "Red and Black." The test bike is called "Red and Black Test Bike." So the names through everyone off. Anyway, I was glad the get the one I was after. It is about 28 pounds according to my very non-scientific scale with the test pedals. Might be less with my Xt's.

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    Awesome. Not only is it a cool color scheme, but fairly unique among US riders.

    I saw a different color scheme for the Elite on Spesh's site, briefly. I like the white/red fine (I actually like the Comp's scheme the best), but would have preferred the alternatives color scheme if it were available. I don't see the non-white Elite model on their site any more. Was that a mistake for US customers, too?

    For that matter, why do they -- a US company -- offer different color schemes only outside the US?

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    Good question. It seems like they would save money by having a standard color set for everything. I guess they research focus groups to see what people want. The one funny thing is that on my bike there were no stickers on the fork whatsoever. Not a big deal, but nothing indicated what kind of for it is other than the little "powered by SRAM" sticker on the back of one of the legs. Maybe being a test bike they don't put those on? Seems to be the right fork, just no stickers.

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    Ride report

    I took it out today once I got home. I goofed with the seat post height until I got it set right, then ran a few out and backs on a trail. At first, the rear felt like I had a flat tire or was peddling through mud. I couldn't figure out why. With the shock locked out, everything was fine. This is my first FS bike and I'm sure it takes some getting used to, but it felt weird. I rode back home and checked the pressure. It was low for my weight (198). I ran it up to what the manual said and it rode much much better. As for the seating, it is way upright compared to my M2 hard tail. Kind of nice on the back, but I may get a longer stem to get back to a familiar position, more over the front tire. I felt like I was "behind" the front tire instead of on top of it. I think sliding the seat forward and getting a longer stem will get me there. The bike rides great and weighs about 28 pounds. I can't wait to take it out on a long ride. This bike also is about 2 inches longer than my M2. I have a short bed with a bed rail form clamp. The rear tire hits the tailgate now where my old bike had plenty of room behind it. This will probably mean a more stable ride hopefully not at the expense of being "flickable". Overall I am very happy with it. I rode a few bikes that cost a lot more and this one feels really great comparatively. I never rode an EPIC, but I assume it would be more "racey" in geometry than I need. The Stumpy was more expensive and had a lot of travel. This bike seems to hit a sweet spot for me. I occasionally race but mostly just ride trails and like to be out there getting a good workout while taking in the scenery. I would recommend this bike if you are on the fence. If you are mostly a racer, take a look at the EPICs. If you hit hard drops and like the jumps, maybe the Stumpy FSR. But for me, the Camber is it. More reviews after I get a real ride in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    Good question. It seems like they would save money by having a standard color set for everything. I guess they research focus groups to see what people want. The one funny thing is that on my bike there were no stickers on the fork whatsoever. Not a big deal, but nothing indicated what kind of for it is other than the little "powered by SRAM" sticker on the back of one of the legs. Maybe being a test bike they don't put those on? Seems to be the right fork, just no stickers.
    I think that's probably because the Test Bikes would usually have the green stickered Reba from the silver/black color schemed Expert.



    Kinda weird as the black/red scheme's fork would work perfectly w/ the Test Bike scheme. I was definitely puzzled as to why they would intentionally mismatch the colors, but apparrently all the Test Bikes are that way according to the LBS guys.

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    That IS weird. One other thing that didn't make sense: The Specialized website says it has a "single air" fork. But mine has a small sticker that says "dual air" on it. There are valves at the top and bottom of the left leg to attach a pump to with recommendations on how much to set each based on weight. Is the Specialized site wrong? Or do I have some mutant fork with dual air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    That IS weird. One other thing that didn't make sense: The Specialized website says it has a "single air" fork. But mine has a small sticker that says "dual air" on it. There are valves at the top and bottom of the left leg to attach a pump to with recommendations on how much to set each based on weight. Is the Specialized site wrong? Or do I have some mutant fork with dual air?
    Nope it's definitely a dual air. I don't think they make a Reba that isn't dual air (not sure about the Reba Brain actually).

    Definitely a screw up on the Specialized site.

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    Is it normal for the fork to make a "sucking" sound on the rebound? If I set it to a fast rebound, it doesn't do it. But if get about 25% toward Mr. Turtle, it gets loud when recovering from bigger hits, getting worse the slower you set it.

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    Yes,you will hear the sucking sound. Good description, btw. Sounds like taking a short, sharp, breath in.

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    My Camber after a short trail ride

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    Hello,

    Is the weight of the Camber frame known ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    Not at all. I would be all over a Stumpy FSR EVO myself if it had 20mm less travel.

    As it is I'm about 50/50 on whether to do the SJ and spacer down the fork and shock or order a Camber Pro and slap an RP23, X.0 RD, X9 shifters, and some new wheels on it.
    The 2011 Epic has an EVO model with 120mm and it is one sweet looking bike! I am interested in this as well as the SJ models

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    Well, I took my son to the LBS "to pick up his (my old) bike which needed new tires". This was the day before his 15th birthday. While the old KHS is still Ok, it is now too small for him and I have been putting money down on a Camber since August. He did get a nice surprise and is very happy with it after one ride. I took it out myself and personally would reduce the shock and fork pressures, raise the saddle and alter his cleats to allow a sl more toe-out (neutral) position. It feels really good. A real bargain for the ride and frame quality. Sadly, now he may not just be bigger than me, but faster.

    The DT wheels (same as the ones Sid Nitzerglobin has in his pic) have a strip of yellow rim tape. It looks like they are tubeless compatible. Is that true? He has already had his first flat.

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    hello
    I'm planning to buy a Camber expert and i could use some advice about what size should i get - S or M?
    my measures: height 5'7", inseam 30", arms 24", weight 136lbs

    thanx in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnparadise
    Well, I took my son to the LBS "to pick up his (my old) bike which needed new tires". This was the day before his 15th birthday. While the old KHS is still Ok, it is now too small for him and I have been putting money down on a Camber since August. He did get a nice surprise and is very happy with it after one ride. I took it out myself and personally would reduce the shock and fork pressures, raise the saddle and alter his cleats to allow a sl more toe-out (neutral) position. It feels really good. A real bargain for the ride and frame quality. Sadly, now he may not just be bigger than me, but faster.

    The DT wheels (same as the ones Sid Nitzerglobin has in his pic) have a strip of yellow rim tape. It looks like they are tubeless compatible. Is that true? He has already had his first flat.
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    Think I'm finally ready to pull the trigger on a Camber Pro. Planning to place my order tomorrow pending approval of the price we worked out tonight. Sounds like I'm probably only looking at a couple of days for them to get it in store, maybe by the weekend I'll have some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    I'm planning to buy a Camber expert and i could use some advice about what size should i get - S or M?
    my measures: height 5'7", inseam 30", arms 24", weight 136lbs

    thanx in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    I'd take a wild ass guess and say a small but you're getting close to medium range. Either might work for you w/ proper adjustment of saddle and stem length,

    Definitely try to at least sit on both sizes and see which works better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    FWIW, I got the large. I am 6' 1" with a 32" inseam and the fit is very comfortable. HTH
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEH215
    FWIW, I got the large. I am 6' 1" with a 32" inseam and the fit is very comfortable. HTH
    I'm going w/ the L as well, 6'2" and a 33" inseam. Felt like it fit like a glove in my 2 days w/ the test bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    I'd take a wild ass guess and say a small but you're getting close to medium range. Either might work for you w/ proper adjustment of saddle and stem length,

    Definitely try to at least sit on both sizes and see which works better.
    yup, thats my wild guess as well, it would be best to test them both i know, but local store doesn't have either of them, only L... so i'll have to order one (S or M) first and then see how it fits.

    Basically i was kinda hoping that some Camber owner who is around my size could give me some pointers how and what did he/she choose.

    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
    yup, thats my wild guess as well, it would be best to test them both i know, but local store doesn't have either of them, only L... so i'll have to order one (S or M) first and then see how it fits.

    Basically i was kinda hoping that some Camber owner who is around my size could give me some pointers how and what did he/she choose.

    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    Hi folks: my Camber Expert. First photo 100% OEM in Vegas. 2nd photo with Monkeylite handlebar, 100mm FSA stem, GrabOn grips and WTB Rocket V Pro saddle in Sao Paulo. There are two mistakes in Specilialized's site: Reba solo air (it's dual: if not would be a Recon Gold with other sticker) and 90mm stem in M size (it's actual 75mm). 12.4kg




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    Quote Originally Posted by TEH215
    One thing I may mention is that using a water bottle on the large frame is a little tricky but can be done. You may want to check on the smaller frames....just an FYI
    no prob, hydration pack FTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    I don't think I'd even consider an XL in this frame for me. The large test bike felt just about perfect after raising the saddle 1.5" or so above the bars in the default setup the LBS had it at. Saddle was pretty far back on the rails, but KOPS and reach were very good and I believe I'll actually wind up w/ more set back on the post that comes w/ the Pro vs. the Expert that I tested so I should gain back a bit of tweaking range.

    I had gone w/ a 21" on my Rockhopper as the 19" felt too small and while it has been serving me well and I have achieved a pretty comfy fit on it overall, it's always seemed maybe a tad big and only afforded me 1.75-2" of standover.

    The advise I generally hear when between sizes is to go smaller rather than larger as it's often easier to correct your fit up than down. The smaller frames can also be a bit lighter and potentially slightly more maneuverable, but I'd say the fit would trump both of those for me.

    It's a bummer they don't have medium or a small you can at least sit on.

    Bottle clearance was definitely pretty tricky on the L. It took a concerted effort to navigate my bottle in and out of my Ribcage w/o tearing off the Pro Pedal lever. I might have to check out a side entry bottle cage or a shorter bottle as I like to carry a bottle of electrolyte/carb drink and do straight water in the Camelbak.

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    With a bike that is too small you can always get a longer stem and seatpost. You might look like a circus act, but you can ride it. With a bike that is too big, you're F'd.

    Beautiful pics Bikebr.

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    ok, Camber expert size S is on the way... upon arrival we'll see how's it hanging.
    I will post some pics and then we'll take it from there

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    I'm 5'6" with a 30/31 inseem and I got a Medium. I found that I was between sizes according to the charts, but when I actually sat on the bikes the medium felt perfect.....

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    Woohoo! It's here!

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    27lbs, 15oz w/ XT M770 pedals, MK SS 2.4/2.2, Ergon GA1 grips, and a Zee Cage:


    Going to go get it dirty tonight after work .

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    Got a few more pics.

    After cleaning up after the inaugural night ride:


    A few from my ride out at John Bryan today. Pretty crazy ride, wound up w/ a quarter to half inch of muddy ice frozen to like every trailing edge on the bike and a ~4lb chunk between the linkage joints, seat tube, and FD by the time I got back to the car. This is gonna be fun to clean up...




    Bike performed great overall but had frozen out the FD by 2/3 of the way through my ride. The Mountain Kings actually wound up working really well in the snow.

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    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.

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    Awesome pics Sid! To a guy in Houston, that looks like a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.
    Personally I'd call it a trail bike, so somewhere in between an XC and AM bike.

    Both the test bike and my Pro seemed solid to me landing jumps ~3.5 high or so to flat w/ the wacky OS 24 9mm QR. I'd imagine a 15mm axle would make things a bit stiffer and more durable. I'm about 210lbs. and the thing I'd worry the most about being able to handle this type of jumping/drops over the long term are the wheels, but they might do OK .
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    (Sigh) I wish I could get my bike that dirty :-) No stream crossings around here, and by the time the trails re-open after some rain, I have to actively hunt down remaining mud puddles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    Personally I'd call it a trail bike, so somewhere in between an XC and AM bike.

    Both the test bike and my Pro seemed solid to me landing jumps ~3.5 high or so to flat w/ the wacky OS 24 9mm QR. I'd imagine a 15mm axle would make things a bit stiffer and more durable. I'm about 210lbs. and the thing I'd worry the most about being able to handle this type of jumping/drops over the long term are the wheels, but they might do OK .
    Thanks for the respose. I was looking around and actually found that the Giant Trance may be more of what I'm looking for. Roughly the same price range and comes with the 15QR already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    Thanks for the respose. I was looking around and actually found that the Giant Trance may be more of what I'm looking for. Roughly the same price range and comes with the 15QR already.
    Camber is essentially Specialized's Trance, I actually test rode an X2 in the process of picking out the Camber (just around the parking lot however, no demo bikes for Giant I could find at the local LBSs). I hear good things about the Trance for sure.

    I've been doing the same kind of jumps and hits on my Rockhopper w/ 9mm QR for a while now and have yet to break or bend one. The stock Alex RHD wheels have definitely got some issues at this point, but they were pretty crappy from the get go.

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    Just picked up my Camber Pro tonight. I will be swapping a few parts and then posting some pictures. I am putting on my Easton carbon bars, Thompson seat post and stem, then I will put it on the scale. Well what was the first ride like? Money well spent? I wont be riding here in Reno, NV for a few months, maybe time for a rode trip to some warmer weather.Your crazy man, $2800 bucks and you take it out in the snow, not me. Next summer I will be tearing it up. Sweet ride.

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    First ride was actually a night ride on Friday. The lower spots of the trail were still pretty soft so it was kind of a slow one. Feet got really cold so I picked a pair of these on Saturday since apparently nobody in this town carries winter MTB shoes.

    Sunday's ride was pretty darn fun, but very messy. I think I got some infintesimal inkling of what cyclocross might be like, albeit at a MUCH lower intensity level. The parts where the snow hadn't been worn through were actually the best from a grip perspective, still all in all if I made sure to brake in a straight line and keep my weight on the pedals things handled pretty well. Getting a little bit of slip angle on the rear end when taking turns at closer to the limits of traction felt pretty cool. The only major yikes moments came when the rear tire got deflected mid-turn off of roots that ran parallel to the trail a few times.

    The bike felt great, suspension seemed to stay consistent in its dynamics despite it being cold enough to freeze the spray to the frame pretty much instantly (~25F). About the only issue I ran into was the FD getting frozen out as I mentioned. This really wasn't a huge problem but as the ice started building up, the uphill parts through fresh snow became a pretty decent work out w/ 38x36 as my easiest gear combo. Still doable, just a bit tougher than I would usually tackle them with. If I had a 34 or 36T ring and a chain keeper I might consider going 1x10.

    I'm planning to continue to ride all winter, trail conditions permitting. We usually don't get feet of snow around here, and once the ground gets nice and frozen it should be a good deal less messy. Only thing that will screw me up is if we get the yoyo-ing temps w/ things constantly freezing and thawing and re-freezing or if it turns out to be mild enough to rain a bunch. Sub 20F temps w/ a lot of wind have a good chance to make my rides a good deal shorter and less frequent as well.

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    Hi all,

    I am planning to replace my old Giant NRS 3 frame with an Expert Camber one. Does someone know the bottom bracket spindle dimension used in the Camber? The Specialized website shows that the Expert model has a BB-ES25 bottom bracket and I know it has a 68 mm shell width, but have not been able to find the spindle dimension. Can anyone help?

    Thank you

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    Hi Bicimapas,
    please check the bottom bracket width. For me it seems to be 73mm. The Expert uses a standard outboard bearings, hollowtech type (probably a SM-BB50 or BB70), not the Octalink ES-25. Another mistake in Specialized's site...

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    Thanks Bikebr,
    I was told by the LBS mechanic that the Camber has a 68 mm shell. I will go back and measure it myself. I am planning to get a new crankset (the one on my NRS is 8 years old) so I may go with an external bearing version which can accomodate either shell size.

    Greetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikebr
    Hi Bicimapas,
    please check the bottom bracket width. For me it seems to be 73mm. The Expert uses a standard outboard bearings, hollowtech type (probably a SM-BB50 or BB70), not the Octalink ES-25. Another mistake in Specialized's site...
    Same as for the FSR XC. The Specialized site was wrong so its always best to check yourself. No probs when you have a Hollowtech II though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.
    The bike will do what you want and pretty well, but if you have a hankering to air and really rough trails, then you should get heavier wheels and rubber.

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    I am following up this thread for a while and thinking of to get a Camber Expert 26 er, I am riding a "13.5" Swiss Code hardtail" (I know it's too small for me), it's big step for me and I wanted a FS bike which can last me for at least next 5 years or life.

    I am 38 years chinese, 5.6"/ 156lb, my arm length 20.5" and inseam of 32", I am caught in between S or M size for Camber FSR; according to the chart, I should go for the "M" but I worried it will be too big for me. (I am learning to wheely and bunny hop now)

    Appreciate all the Camberer out there can give me some advice, thanx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel1996

    I am 38 years chinese, 5.6"/ 156lb, my arm length 20.5" and inseam of 32", I am caught in between S or M size for Camber FSR; according to the chart, I should go for the "M" but I worried it will be too big for me. (I am learning to wheely and bunny hop now)

    Appreciate all the Camberer out there can give me some advice, thanx.
    Hi Samuel,
    I'm going to assume that you can't get on a Camber to test ride, because this is by far your best bet. Do you have a Specialized dealer? If so, go get on an FSR XC and see how the S and M fit you. They're similar enough that you (and the dealer) will know the right size. If you're still on the fence, I would say get the smaller bike because you can always get a longer stem and/or seatpost on a bike that is too small. If you go too large, you're stuck with the frame dimensions. Good luck, and post some pics when you make your purchase!

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    Hi kwides,

    Thanks for your advice, there is a Specialized dealer here in Penang, Malaysia. But I guess they do not have the FSR XC, the Camber stock had just arrived 2 days ago and they are trying to assemble the S and M model for me to try out..

    I am so excited as I might go and try it out this afternoon, an early Christmas gift for me from my own wallet ^^

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    wow, gotta have one. think ill talk to the guy at the lbs tomorrow. on the layaway plan i should be able to swing a comp or an elite by april, just when id really want to start the season. nice that the pricepoint is actually obtainable. the bike is like a little brother to the stumpy, not an ugly half-stepchild like the fsr was.

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    How'd it go Samuel?

    I've never ridden in MY, but have a friend who rode in Singapore and said it was awesome.

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    Hi kwrides,

    Yeah, quite number of Singaporean will cross the strait to cycle in MY.. Cycling is getting popular here..

    Well, I tested both S and M size, I found S size is more comfortable, may be I get used to the smaller bike (My HT is only 13.5"). I felt M size is little too big, seems like bigger then me.. I will be travelling for the next 5 days so I will take some time to think about this.. Is it true that bigger bike are more stable when doing uphill climb? I am newbie and stuck in the sizing the right bike..

    I'm thinking of to go for Camber coz Specialized claimed that it is in between Epic and Stumpy, please share with me how's your Camber performance so far? Thanx..

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    I really like the bike, but I recommend saving up the coin to get the better models with a shock that has pro-pedal. Mine really bobs a lot on flats or when climbing. Sure, I can reach down and lock them it, but it's not convenient. I'm going to upgrade mine.

    I mostly ride on very rooty trails with a lot of tight angles. We have several ups and downs, but only of 20 feet or so. Biggest drop off is probably 3 feet. The bike excels in all those conditions, except for very steep climbs, where the bob gets in the way of progress.

    I'm very pleasantly surprised with the performance of the cheapo brakes and love the stock saddle and handlebar. The tires are ok, but slip a bit in dry conditions.

    I hope that helps. If you have specific questions, fire away.

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    Hey kwrides, I appreciate very much for your details explanation, this help a lot especially for a newbie like me.

    I guess I had make up my mind to go for the Expert model, but tomorrow I will drop by Kuala Lumpur Specialized concept shop (350KM south from where I live, travel by car of coz) to do the final test ride to see if the S size really suitable for me, if everything goes smooth, I am going to get a Specialized Camber Expert Silver/ Black by next Monday 20 Dec ^-^

    Thanx a lot!

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    Suppose to collect my S size Camber Expert today, but when I were there in the shop, the LBS told me I got to wait for another 4-5 days coz the Reba Fork has some manufacturing defect, they need to replace a new one.... sigh....

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    teeth #

    Does anybody know the size ( teeth ) of the Camber Pro 29er chainrings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlorga
    Does anybody know the size ( teeth ) of the Camber Pro 29er chainrings?
    Pretty sure they're 33/22

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    They seem bigger than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlorga
    They seem bigger than that.
    It's totally possible that they are. I'm just guessing at 33/22 as that's the size of the rings on the Stumpy FSR 29ers w/ 2x10s and the 2x10s of the Stumpy FSR 26ers aside from the EVO seem to be the same as the Camber Pro 26er. Epic Expert Carbon 29er and Sworks 29er have 38x24, but they are described as XC double cranksets, where as the Stumpy FSR and Camber Pro are listed as XC Trail double cranksets.

    I don't now how much bigger of a big ring I'd want for the 29" wheels on a 2x10 personally. Trying to torque up bigger hills in 32/36 on the 3x10 of the Epic Comp 29er I test rode for a couple of days was definitely giving a pretty substantial workout already. The 38/24 rings on my Camber Pro 26er have definitely encouraged me into using the FD alot more than I used to.

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    If they were 38/24, I would buy one, I need bigger than 33/22.

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    Spooky creaky BB

    Anybody else have a really creaky BB on a new Camber? I've got a Camber Expert that is creaking like a haunted house under any kind of load. I called my LBS and they said ride it a few more times then bring it in for a tune up. Is this think just loose? It creaks more than my 11 year old Stumpy M2 comp did!

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    Need to pick a Camber size

    I'm down to my short list for a new dual suspension bike. The Camber has made that list. Not sure what size I need. I'm on a 15.5 2009 stumpy hardtail right now which feels about right. However, I'm apparently overlap on S's susp. bikes b/w small/med. frames. I've ridden a small stumpy fsr comp for a day earlier in the year out in Vegas and have ridden a medium Camber for about 5 minutes. The med. felt pretty good and standover was Ok. What r u guys riding? I'm 5'7" w/ 29.5" inseam, 25.25" trunk and 25" arms I've done a fit calculator and it advised I need a bike w/ around 28.1"-28.7" of standover and a virtual TT of around 23.1-23.5
    Thanks!

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    My other half's a little shorter than you and she went for a medium as she preferred the extra room in the cockpit - though it's all down to personal preference. Happily it does mean that at 6', I can just about fit into it until I get my own bike sorted!

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    Great thread and awesome machines!



    I got one too, yesterday! Merry Christmas












    5'7" on a small, weight distribution felt more fun and confident.

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    Greater than Gravity,

    Sweet!!! Is that a Zee Cage? I cant find green color in Malaysia, can you help me to source one?

    Mine still in LBS awaiting for the Reba shock replacement. But I get them to change to Green Jagwire for the gear cable...I guess I have to wait for another 2- 3 days to bring her home..

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    Any idea what is the weight for the S size Camber Expert? 26lb?

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    Hey samuel, yes it is a Zee Cage! I got it at the LBS.

    Green cable housing is a good Idea! Can you post pics with the green cable housing when you get your bike? Im trying to find green hydraulic hoses for the brakes..

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    GTG/ Kwrides,

    My S size Camber Expert finally home, will bring her for a virgin ride in one hour time.. I am damn excited ^^

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