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    Quote Originally Posted by wired00 View Post
    I'm trying to track down a rear derailleur hanger for 2019 29er with Shimano 11 speed xt derailleur. Anyone know where to order? My local spec dealer where I got the bike bloody shut down

    Also, anyone tried replacing outer gear cable for rear shifter? Does it just feed through or is a nightmare?
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    It looks like Push now sells the ElevenSix for the 2019 stumpy (but not the Evo??). I can find no reference online (or instagram) of someone actually buying the beautiful piece of MTB jewelry for their stumpy.

    Crazy way to spend $1200 or totally worth it? I'm tempted...

    ...Storia looks cool too.

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    Did you listen to the recent podcast on Vital MTB?
    I thought it was really interesting.

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    Anyone knows What the weight is on the comp carbon stock wheels??

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedalBin View Post
    Did you listen to the recent podcast on Vital MTB?
    I thought it was really interesting.
    I started listening... gona take me a while to make it through all 3.5 hrs!

    Might have to buy the 11-6 after listening to Darren for that long

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellmountain View Post
    Anyone knows What the weight is on the comp carbon stock wheels??
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    Weights from my 2019 comp carbon wheels (with tires and inner-tubes, no cassette, no discs)

    2.22kg Front (Butcher Grid) / 2.43kg Rear (Purgatory Grid)

    FWIW, weights on my SC Reserves (2oz stans no tubes, no cassette, no discs)

    1.97kg front (DHF EXO 2.5) / 1.92kg rear (Agressor 2.3)

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    Thanks. Can we assume the weight is around 2400-2500 then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellmountain View Post
    Thanks. Can we assume the weight is around 2400-2500 then?
    It was north of 2200g with my previous generation (2016) Carbon Comp wheels. Don't know about the current models.

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    I'm helping my buddy install a Fox DPX2 210x55 on this 2019 Stumperjumper ST29 (he has the LT yoke). The DPX2 he bought does not have shock/mount bushings; does anyone know what kit he needs in order to install the DPX2 on the frame?

    I believe bought this kit:

    https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/pro...ece-aluminum-2

    which was suggest by a bike shop and he had that it installed. However, it is too wide for the frame and the inner diameter is much larger than the mounting hardware.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks!

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    hello,

    for the Fox bushing I donít know, my TTX Air came directly with the good mounts hardware. However - donít know if it helps - but normally the DPX2 should be 210x50 on a LT SJ.

    regards

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    Thinking of switching my stumpy back to st. Anyone interested in trading an lt fox dps performance with yoke for a like model st? Not interested in the x fusion already have one.
    Quote Originally Posted by HamfisT
    I understand that engineering has value in and of itself. But in the end, it's still just a pile of aluminum tubes.

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    has anyone got all the bearing sizes for the new stumpy ?

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    Not really

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    Why not? What do you need??

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    Do you mean OD = 21, ID = 12 = 6801.
    OD = 24, ID = 12 = 6901.

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    yes that sort of thing. the bearing numbers and quantity for each pivot.

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    actually i apologize thats brilliant!!

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    Now this looks very interesting...

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/st...=271542-173584

    It's a limited edition Downieville 29er. The interesting part is that the suspension has been increased to 140mm at the front and 130mm at the back by using a 190x45mm shock instead of the 190x42.5mm usually found on the ST's. I'd been wondering about trying this when I get round to replacing my O2 shock and by altering the Recon to 140mm when I service that (probably next month).

    So it looks like the Stumpy has another config we can try.

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    interestingly its got the new rear seatstay, id be interested to know what other changes have happened?

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    what are the differences between old and new seat stays?

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    Looks like the the new chainstays only apply to the carbon models. I would think strengthening rather than tyre clearance?

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    ive noticed that they are running 2.3 rears now as well.

    im guessing its like the evo one so a couple more bearings?

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    I like this LTD Edition Stumpy. I'm going to demo a carbon ST for a couple days and if I like it I'm going to order one. Spec'd rather nicely...

    Always had a soft spot for a Stumpy, went with a Pivot 5.5 for the last two years and now I'm ready for a 29er and this could be the one.

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    Anyone notice the geometry chart on the LTB Pemberton Edition 27.5?

    Is it a mistake? The medium is showing 455 reach. Is it a completely different chassis? Would be rad if they adjusted the sizing. Always thought the medium felt small for its size.


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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeldorian View Post
    Anyone notice the geometry chart on the LTB Pemberton Edition 27.5?

    Is it a mistake? The medium is showing 455 reach. Is it a completely different chassis? Would be rad if they adjusted the sizing. Always thought the medium felt small for its size.


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    The numbers look the same to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_mtb View Post
    The numbers look the same to me.
    Check out the chart. 455 in a medium. Looks like they are just changing the sizing scale.


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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeldorian View Post
    Check out the chart. 455 in a medium. Looks like they are just changing the sizing scale.


    Pemberton LTD 27.5




    Standard 27.5

    Ahh, I was looking at the 29er version. Yeah thatís got to be a mistake.

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    Sorry if this has been addressed in here,
    Is the link, rearward axle path, flat suspension curve (ha), and aggressive #'s of the 2020 Enduro going to trickle down to this model year stumpy?
    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

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    Well this was my third day on the bike. I am 100% sold on 29ers. I'm not a pro or ex-pro but I can tell the difference coming from my Mach 5.5. I thought my riding buds were jerking me around about the my small wheels (27.5) but it carries momentum and speed more than I was expecting.

    I'm also 90% sold on the Stumpy. I demo'd the ST expert and for a 30lb sled it pedaled fantastic, seated and out of the saddle. The other notable thing I noticed was the snappy feel, steered better than my 5.5, maybe the 67 degree HT angle...IDK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.a.n. View Post
    I've got a large ST 29. In the low setting with a 130mm fork with 51mm offset I did not like this bike at all. Couldn't get the front to bite in turns or hold a line. Wandered on climbs and just felt, for lack of a better word, vague.

    I put it in the high setting, then swapped out the Fox 34 with a Fox 36 at 140mm of travel and 44 mm offset and now I love the bike. It tracks better in corners, I can feel the front tire traction now, it climbs better, more stable at high speeds. Overall just a completely better bike. The difference was night and day.

    Personally, I think all new 29ers should come spec'd with reduced offset forks, not just slacked out bikes. But that's just me. Honestly, I think you would love the bike with a reduced offset fork.
    I suggest a lot of that change was due to high vs low setting you made. As for tracking I suggest dropping the bars would similarly improve that. I have 51mm offset 160mm 2019 lyric on my stumpy running in low mode and absolutely love it

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    Pulled the trigger and picking up the LTD Edition tomorrow after work. Put on Roval carbon hoops with the 240 internals, Ground Control on the rear, 1295 cassette, Enve bars. Going to give the Lyrik a try but probably switch to a Pike Ultimate.We shall see...

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    I've been trying to figure out if the fork and shock on the Downieville are based on the 2019 or 2020 version. There seems to be some differences of description between the Specialized version and the 2020 aftermarket version (other than the travel).

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    After only 600km, first mech' problem : the NX derailleur upper pulley literally flew away during a not so chunky descent while I wanted to pedal a little bit.
    In the process, the cage has been bent badly
    I was not able to find the upper pulley on the trial sides and I was forced to go back home on a single speed ...

    After inspection, I noticed that the lower pulley was not screwed tightly and that there was no lock it. So I guess it was the same for the upper pulley.
    The most irritating part is that the bike was just out of a bike shop revision ....

    I got another NX derailleur for the short term (still need to install it) but I plan to change the whole transmission for the 12sp XT/SLX Shimano groupset (including xt trail wheels) soon.

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    After only 600km, first mech' problem : the NX derailleur upper pulley literally flew away during a not so chunky descent while I wanted to pedal a little bit.
    In the process, the cage has been bent badly
    I was not able to find the upper pulley on the trial sides and I was forced to go back home on a single speed ...

    After inspection, I noticed that the lower pulley was not screwed tightly and that there was no lock it. So I guess it was the same for the upper pulley.
    The most irritating part is that the bike was just out of a bike shop revision ....

    I got another NX derailleur for the short term (still need to install it) but I plan to change the whole transmission for the 12sp XT/SLX Shimano groupset (including xt trail wheels) soon.
    Been there done that on 2 separate occasions. Unfortunately the first time it happened my der got dragged into my wheel and took out a bunch of spokes. The second time was halfway through TeamsBC 6 day enduro, which also sucked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HHL View Post
    I've been trying to figure out if the fork and shock on the Downieville are based on the 2019 or 2020 version. There seems to be some differences of description between the Specialized version and the 2020 aftermarket version (other than the travel).
    Different in which way? I don't think there is going to be any difference between the two years since the big change last year...

    Now the fork is OEM because you cannot buy a 140mm Lryik (or Select +) aftermarket, the shock is OEM also (Deluxe Select +) but the linkage and yoke allow for a 45mm stroke vs the standard ST 42.5mm to bump it to 130mm rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdb85 View Post
    Different in which way? I don't think there is going to be any difference between the two years since the big change last year...

    Now the fork is OEM because you cannot buy a 140mm Lryik (or Select +) aftermarket, the shock is OEM also (Deluxe Select +) but the linkage and yoke allow for a 45mm stroke vs the standard ST 42.5mm to bump it to 130mm rear.
    Is it a completely different link + yoke or just running the same length shock with a spacer removed? Looks like the length of the shock is exactly the same. Just a bit more stroke.

    Theoretically, we can make our own by removing the spacer and getting a new airshaft on most ST bikes right?


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    Not 100% sure but I think that would be correct. The shocks are the same length 190mm just different stroke.

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    I've developed a clicking sound on my ST. Bike shop put on a new bottom bracket. Didn't fix it. New headset. Didn't fix it. They did some other stuff that didn't work. Getting expensive chasing this creak. How difficult is it to take apart the pivots and service the bearings? Could an average Joe do the job with simple tools?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    I've developed a clicking sound on my ST. Bike shop put on a new bottom bracket. Didn't fix it. New headset. Didn't fix it. They did some other stuff that didn't work. Getting expensive chasing this creak. How difficult is it to take apart the pivots and service the bearings? Could an average Joe do the job with simple tools?
    Just while pedaling?
    Earlier someone in this thread had a creak while pedaling....said a Specialized rep told them to grease the shock mount/flip chip.
    Mine did the same, greasing the flip chip fixed it.

    It never sounded like it came from there....but it did.

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    It's a really strange sound. It sounds more like a tick or tap. It's not a squeak or high pitched creak. It starts when pedalling, when I'm putting force on the pedals up hill. When I start a ride it's quiet, then I hear it here and there when I'm putting down force. It starts becoming more frequent as my ride progresses. Before too long, I'm hearing this ticking sound pretty frequently, and once I hear it a lot, it sometimes happens even on flats when I'm not pedalling. It very frustrating, and so far expensive.

    I will definitely try greasing the shock mounts and flip chip. I've never touched the flip chip (still in high from when I bought it) so maybe it needs some love.

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    @Richulr... I had a mystery sound too recently. Turned out it was the rear axle. I thought I had tightened it enough (by hand) but the book (and this forum) say it should be 15nm, which is crazy tight. But it stopped the noise.
    I bought a cheap torque wrench from CRC which did the job. But if you don't have one just use a normal allen wrench and tighten the crap out of it.

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    ticking wise ive had a lot of noise from a dry (working but not greased in the cups) headset.

    also a loose hub axle (not rear axle)

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    Quote Originally Posted by andybrad View Post
    ticking wise ive had a lot of noise from a dry (working but not greased in the cups) headset.

    also a loose hub axle (not rear axle)
    Same here. Clean and regrease headset. Lube both wheel axles with some grease, and tighten properly. Make sure bolt to flip chip is tight. Clean and tighten seat post and seat. Also, front shock busing can wear out, but this will be heard over small bumps and also when lifting bike off the ground.

    I did have a few noises during summer, but they've magically all disappeared now that it's proper cold (-3C on my last tide), so something probably tightens when it's cold, eliminating squeaks. Only good thing about riding in the cold, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    My friend believes that a 170mm fork on the Stumpy 29 will turn it into the perfect shred sled. Anyone think thatís a bad idea?
    head angle will slacken slightly, but the bottom bracket will raise and reach will be reduce if only a smidget.

    its always a compromise, so not perfect, what you gain in downhill confidence you might lose in manoeuvrability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack88 View Post
    head angle will slacken slightly, but the bottom bracket will raise and reach will be reduce if only a smidget.

    its always a compromise, so not perfect, what you gain in downhill confidence you might lose in manoeuvrability.
    Ooft... the max recommended fork travel on the Stumpy 29er is 150mm. You'd be looking at a 65.5 degree head angle. Might be nice?

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    ive got a 160 fork on mine and its fine. I think you might struggle uphill with 170

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaack77 View Post
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    After only 600km, first mech' problem : the NX derailleur upper pulley literally flew away during a not so chunky descent while I wanted to pedal a little bit.
    In the process, the cage has been bent badly
    I was not able to find the upper pulley on the trial sides and I was forced to go back home on a single speed ...

    After inspection, I noticed that the lower pulley was not screwed tightly and that there was no lock it. So I guess it was the same for the upper pulley.
    The most irritating part is that the bike was just out of a bike shop revision ....

    I got another NX derailleur for the short term (still need to install it) but I plan to change the whole transmission for the 12sp XT/SLX Shimano groupset (including xt trail wheels) soon.
    Happened to mine as well, but it was the lower pulley wheel. Last SS of an enduro race, completely wrecked the mech and hanger. Lots of people have experienced these bolts falling out.

    My LBS managed to get a new mech from SRAM on warranty, but I upgraded to GX since the NX seems to be made for those who don't ride much or hard

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    Check that the derailleur hanger is tight.

    Also had ticking on mine that turned out to be the yoke rubbing on the linkage. I know specialized had a revised yoke out there that material was machined away to remove the interference. Same part number and everything.

    Hope that helps

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    yea you right i never noticed that.

    does anyone know if the new 2020 model is a different yoke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    It's a really strange sound. It sounds more like a tick or tap. It's not a squeak or high pitched creak. It starts when pedalling, when I'm putting force on the pedals up hill. When I start a ride it's quiet, then I hear it here and there when I'm putting down force. It starts becoming more frequent as my ride progresses. Before too long, I'm hearing this ticking sound pretty frequently, and once I hear it a lot, it sometimes happens even on flats when I'm not pedalling. It very frustrating, and so far expensive.

    I will definitely try greasing the shock mounts and flip chip. I've never touched the flip chip (still in high from when I bought it) so maybe it needs some love.
    Completely random - check the little cable anchors for the derailleur cable screwed into your chain stay section of frame. I had one loose after a few rides, and it clicked/tapped until tightened.

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    I'll add that every time I have had a creaking/clicking sound on a recent bike it has always been related to either rear axle or derailleur bolt. On my Stumpy it turned out that the derailleur hanger was not fully tapped. So even when the axle bolt had the proper torque, it was not translating into clamping force. This also damaged the threads on the axle bolt. I had my shop order a new bolt and hanger which fixed it completely.

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    My 2019 stumpy comp alloy developed a creaking under high load recently.
    Thats how i tried to fix it:

    Rear axle - tightened
    Seatpost, seat tube - cleaned
    Casette removed, cleaned, lubed, tightened
    Derailer and hanger - removed, cleaned, tightened
    Headset - removed fork cleaned, lubed
    Bottle caged - tightened
    Shock and yoke - removed, cleaned hardware, tightened
    Bottom bracket funnel insert - removed, cleaned, reinstalled
    Suspension bolts in bottom bracket area - reinstalled, tightened
    Cable guide insert in chainstay - tightened

    The creaking was still there.
    The only spots remaining where the other 3 pairs of bolts in the rear triangle and the bottom bracket.

    After i finally got the sram dub bb tool, i removed the bottom bracket and noticed right away that it was torqued way below spec, and the threads were rather dry.
    I greased and reinstalled the bottom bracket and the creaking was gone.

    I guess someone did a crappy job asembling the bike, well done specialized. Their premium prices do not reflect in premium quality.

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    has anyone fitted a 210x52.5 shock on a standard SJ 29?
    Whats this line for?

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    Need some advise, I have the opportunity to change the rear shock on my carbon comp 29r stumpy from the stock DPX to a DPX2 from a 27.5 stumpy evo. Any negative effects or potential problems any of you more knowledgeable folks can think of? The fork has already been replaced with a Fox36 Grip2 160mm. Thanks.

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    Got some rides on the LTD Edition ST now. After I got over the "placebo effect" of the new bike is so great, I've come to realize I made a really good choice. Absolutely love this thing.

    Made the changes I noted above and got it to 28.8 lbs. It certainly pedals lighter than that, its quite snappy. The 140/130 suspension seems perfect. The Lyric is a keeper, I like how it tracks and the 42mm offset makes it steer rather nicely. The only other change is I've ordered a PUSH HC97 damper upgrade to bring out the best in this fork.

    On a side note which has nothing to do with performance, the bike is good looking in person. I've gotten compliments from everybody who has seen it. The couple of subdued and the non-existant over the top graphics are what really enhances the look of the bike.

    Looking forward to this weekend, it is going to be beautiful here in W PA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knutspeed View Post
    Happened to mine as well, but it was the lower pulley wheel. Last SS of an enduro race, completely wrecked the mech and hanger. Lots of people have experienced these bolts falling out.

    My LBS managed to get a new mech from SRAM on warranty, but I upgraded to GX since the NX seems to be made for those who don't ride much or hard
    My LBS finally send it back to the SRAM service center.
    We will see what's next ....

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    Hey gdb85 (or anybody),
    Does that Lyrik have both the HSC (5 clicks) and LSC (20 clicks) damper adjustment knobs, or just the LSC with a preset HSC. I can't really tell by the photos online. Is it a dumbed down fork, or the latest and greatest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mczen View Post
    Need some advise, I have the opportunity to change the rear shock on my carbon comp 29r stumpy from the stock DPX to a DPX2 from a 27.5 stumpy evo. Any negative effects or potential problems any of you more knowledgeable folks can think of? The fork has already been replaced with a Fox36 Grip2 160mm. Thanks.
    I'd say go for the dpx2. No reason not to, other than hit to wallet! It will pair nice with 36. I have the 2019 lyrik 160mm on front of mine and considering dpx2 or dvo topaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHL View Post
    Hey gdb85 (or anybody),
    Does that Lyrik have both the HSC (5 clicks) and LSC (20 clicks) damper adjustment knobs, or just the LSC with a preset HSC. I can't really tell by the photos online. Is it a dumbed down fork, or the latest and greatest?
    Not the latest greatest, LSC with preset HSC. Does have the 2.1 damper so I had a PUSH HC97 installed and it is bringing out the best in the fork. I really like how it tracks, little stiffer and a little heavier than a PIKE.

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    I have loved my Ď19 black alloy comp. Is it too early to speculate what the 2021 bike will look like? I figure maybe we will see it this Spring...


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    Haven't been able to read through yet, so apologies if this has been covered already.

    Anyone know if 29" wheels could fit on a 27.5" frame? I would like the 1 degree slacker HTA (65.5 vs 66.5) and ~1 degree steeper STA (74.6 vs 73.7).

    Could see 29" wheels with 2.3" tires for trails and 27.5" wheels with 2.6" tires for the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog07 View Post
    Anyone know if 29" wheels could fit on a 27.5" frame?
    According to the manual (pg 2, sec. 4.2), the frames differ for the 27.5" vs. 29". I have read through a bunch of posts and I have not seen any mention of fitting a 29" tire on the 27.5" frame. You can do the opposite though, a 27.5" will fit on the 29" frame, it's in that same section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog07 View Post
    Haven't been able to read through yet, so apologies if this has been covered already.

    Anyone know if 29" wheels could fit on a 27.5" frame? I would like the 1 degree slacker HTA (65.5 vs 66.5) and ~1 degree steeper STA (74.6 vs 73.7).

    Could see 29" wheels with 2.3" tires for trails and 27.5" wheels with 2.6" tires for the park.
    You could also go the "mullet" route with a 29 up front and keep your stock rear wheel. This might be perfect for trails and the park.

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    Mullet could be interesting. Still would hopefully eventually get two sets of wheels.

    Quote Originally Posted by psychoboy View Post
    According to the manual (pg 2, sec. 4.2), the frames differ for the 27.5" vs. 29". I have read through a bunch of posts and I have not seen any mention of fitting a 29" tire on the 27.5" frame. You can do the opposite though, a 27.5" will fit on the 29" frame, it's in that same section.
    Not much point in putting 27.5 wheels on a 29 frame, I'd want the 27.5 frame for the slacker HTA/steeper STA.

    It's a different frame, but in the Evo thread someone built a 29'r on a 27.5 frame and reported no issues (with even longer stroke shock). Would definitely want to check clearance in a shop before buying some nice I9 Hydra wheels.
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    I've got an Expert 29er and thinking of some mods, brakes and maybe the Rock Shox Megneg . Has anyone out the megneg on? Is it even a good idea with our suspension platform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTK37 View Post
    I've got an Expert 29er and thinking of some mods, brakes and maybe the Rock Shox Megneg . Has anyone out the megneg on? Is it even a good idea with our suspension platform?
    I have one installed, but only have one ride on it. I had to go down to one token because I wasnít getting close to the end of my travel. From what I understand, the megneg should be well suited for the stump jumper since it is supposed to be great for linear suspension designs. I mainly bought it to add more bottom out progression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_mtb View Post
    I have one installed, but only have one ride on it. I had to go down to one token because I wasnít getting close to the end of my travel. From what I understand, the megneg should be well suited for the stump jumper since it is supposed to be great for linear suspension designs. I mainly bought it to add more bottom out progression.
    I thought the meg nag made it more linear not less?

    so more likely to bottom out?

    Id be interested in knowing how people have found the new fox on the expert compared to the debonair?

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    I swapped my base alloy over to 29 in wheels. Had to change the front fork but it was no hassle in the rear. The head tube is quite a bit longer on the 27.5 version though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andybrad View Post
    I thought the meg nag made it more linear not less?

    so more likely to bottom out?

    Id be interested in knowing how people have found the new fox on the expert compared to the debonair?
    "The MegNeg provides a big increase in negative air spring volume, which (coupled with the resulting positive pressure increase) adds mid-stroke support, gives a plusher initial feel, and adds more bottom-out support using fewer tokens...This typically works well with bikes having more linear spring curves. Riders on very progressive bikes will find that MegNeg adds more mid-stroke support than a rider might prefer."

    https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/20...Update-an,2657

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