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    First ride

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    Will never be this clean again....

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    Looking good! So what's your thoughts on the riding and handling - aluminum frame versus the carbon fiber?

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    i can see you have the super cool eeWings crankset

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    Hi All,

    Just pulled the trigger on a 29 Alloy frame. Will be a bit till I'm able to build it up. Just curious on what the consensus is on the fox perf rear shock? Worth keeping and riding at 50mm for a bit? Go straight to 55mm with the removal of the shock reducer right off the bat? Sell it and get something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwapik View Post
    Looking good! So what's your thoughts on the riding and handling - aluminum frame versus the carbon fiber?
    I was surprised at how much of a difference I felt between the two. So many changes that it is hard to attribute to just one thing, but the bike felt even more composed. It just monster trucks through everything and feels much quieter. Overall I would say the carbon has a much more damped feel to it which I like much more. The coil feels really good in my local terrain and the Grip 2 damper is a big step up over the Rythm setup.

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    Sounds like a good upgrade. Thanks for the comparison. Oh yeah, have fun in Whistler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swift685 View Post
    Attachment 1276873

    Freshly completed 29er conversion on a 27.5 EVO Pro S2 Frame!

    BB height is 348. Standover is perfect (31" Inseam). 160 / 155 travel. Great tire clearance. Not much reason to spring for the 29 frame given the results. Spot Fin' On!
    I assume you have 155mm travel in the rear, which would be a 210x55 shock? No clearance issues with the 29 rear tire?

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    The bike has evolved

    Heres my 2020 Stumpy EVO Carbon S2 27.5. The Frame replaced a 2015 Enudro Evo 180mm front and back, which was nice and slack but had too much travel and weight for my riding.

    I'm really impressed with the new bike, i feel better in the berms and the bike is much more lively and poppy owing to the shorter travel and stiffer frame.




    Full XT 12 speed drive-train
    DT wheels and hubs
    Code Brakes
    Renthal Cockpit
    DHX2 - 500lb spring
    Fox 36's lowered to 160mm - 51psi and 2 tokens
    160 command dropper.

    i'm 5'9 " / 176cm and weigh 154lbs / 11 stone
    S2 frame fit feels perfect to me.


    Weighs in at 13.9kg / 30.7 pounds
    Bike is super fun, looking forward to more shredding

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by endoguru View Post
    I assume you have 155mm travel in the rear, which would be a 210x55 shock? No clearance issues with the 29 rear tire?
    Yes, sir. Zero issues.

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    QUESTION: For anyone running a 160mm fork upfront. What is your sag %?

    I'm running 23-25% sag on the fork and 29% sag on the shock with no wheel flop but if I try to run 20-22% sag on the fork then the wheel flop kicks in and doesn't make for the smoothest steering. Any suggestions?

    My stem is already dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endoguru View Post
    I assume you have 155mm travel in the rear, which would be a 210x55 shock? No clearance issues with the 29 rear tire?
    Are you able to run it in the low setting or high only? I really want to try this, but want to be sure before spring for a new fork and wheels.

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    What pressures are people running in their dpx2. I am only 130lbs and am stuck running 190 psi with the biggest volume token to avoid bottoming out. I still bottom out more than I would like but if I add any more there is not any small bump compliance. Specialized recommends 155 (with .86 volume token) for my weight but that is complete bs.
    Also seriously thinking about moving to an x2. How progressive does it get with 4 tokens?

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    Hello from a new EVO rider

    Hello everyone, new to forums, and just built up a 2020 29 Evo alloy frame in size S2, and so far this thread has helped out a lot! Didnt know about these forums prior to my build, but I myself already had intended to use a 160mm Lyrik fork up front, glad to hear i wasnt the only one!

    A little about me, been riding for about 2 years, with my first bike being an 18 Stumpjumper 29/6Fattie in alloy. Its helped me grow in fitness and skills, until I rode a Pole EvoLink 148 in spain for 2 weeks on holiday and that just blew my mind. I still loved my first stumpy, but when I heard this EVO would come out and have similar geometry. I knew I had to have it. Bought the alloy frame from my LBS and transplanted parts over from my first Stumpjumper'(160mm Lyrik fork, contact points, cassette, stem) The rest were all brand new.

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    S2 Frame. Satin Cast/battleship grey color. Full invisiframe wrap in matte. Rockshox Lyrik RCT3 (3 tokens, 51 Psi) Stock rear shock
    GX 11spd groupset - Ethirteen TRS Race 11spd 9-46 cassette + Absolute black 30T oval chainring
    Code R brakes
    Spank spike stem and 760mm vibrocore handlebars
    Ergon seat and Grips. PNW 150mm dropper.
    Hunt Trailwide 29 wheels
    Maxxis Dissector 2.4 rear with huck norris insert
    Maxxis DHF 2.5 up front

    I built this bike up knowing my time on the bike is 65% local trails in the los Angeles Forest areas and 35% bike park, doing small to medium drop and jumps. Ive ridden in this build for about 3 weeks on both trail and bike parks and have dialed in my fork to feel playful and poppy.

    The rear shock on the other hand I have come to you gurus for advice. I put a DVO topaz on my old stumpjumper and that transformed that bike. The stock DPX2 feels nothing like it and I would like something more confidence inspiring like that topaz made my old stumpy feel. The topaz allowed the bike to talk to me if that makes sense. Id like that again

    I would have pulled the trigger on a 210x50 DVO Topaz again for this EVO but now im reading so much about coils, removing spacers and fitting 210x55 shocks, increasing the rear travel ahh so confusing.

    So gurus, for someone who spends more time on trails than bike parks, would a Topaz or even a Super Deluxe but suffice, or is coil really what this bike needs given its kinematics. (which in that case im leaning towards a EXT Storia for the bottom out tech they have)

    Oh also, is there an issue with loose headsets? bought a cane creek set that was supposed to work fine but never could quite get tight enough. Just ended up putting what came with the box

    Thanks guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoball218 View Post
    Hello everyone, new to forums, and just built up a 2020 29 Evo alloy frame in size S2, and so far this thread has helped out a lot! Didnt know about these forums prior to my build, but I myself already had intended to use a 160mm Lyrik fork up front, glad to hear i wasnt the only one!

    A little about me, been riding for about 2 years, with my first bike being an 18 Stumpjumper 29/6Fattie in alloy. Its helped me grow in fitness and skills, until I rode a Pole EvoLink 148 in spain for 2 weeks on holiday and that just blew my mind. I still loved my first stumpy, but when I heard this EVO would come out and have similar geometry. I knew I had to have it. Bought the alloy frame from my LBS and transplanted parts over from my first Stumpjumper'(160mm Lyrik fork, contact points, cassette, stem) The rest were all brand new.

    BUILD
    S2 Frame. Satin Cast/battleship grey color. Full invisiframe wrap in matte. Rockshox Lyrik RCT3 (3 tokens, 51 Psi) Stock rear shock
    GX 11spd groupset - Ethirteen TRS Race 11spd 9-46 cassette + Absolute black 30T oval chainring
    Code R brakes
    Spank spike stem and 760mm vibrocore handlebars
    Ergon seat and Grips. PNW 150mm dropper.
    Hunt Trailwide 29 wheels
    Maxxis Dissector 2.4 rear with huck norris insert
    Maxxis DHF 2.5 up front

    2019 Stumpjumper EVO thread-img_0865.jpg

    I built this bike up knowing my time on the bike is 65% local trails in the los Angeles Forest areas and 35% bike park, doing small to medium drop and jumps. Ive ridden in this build for about 3 weeks on both trail and bike parks and have dialed in my fork to feel playful and poppy.

    The rear shock on the other hand I have come to you gurus for advice. I put a DVO topaz on my old stumpjumper and that transformed that bike. The stock DPX2 feels nothing like it and I would like something more confidence inspiring like that topaz made my old stumpy feel. The topaz allowed the bike to talk to me if that makes sense. Id like that again

    I would have pulled the trigger on a 210x50 DVO Topaz again for this EVO but now im reading so much about coils, removing spacers and fitting 210x55 shocks, increasing the rear travel ahh so confusing.

    So gurus, for someone who spends more time on trails than bike parks, would a Topaz or even a Super Deluxe but suffice, or is coil really what this bike needs given its kinematics. (which in that case im leaning towards a EXT Storia for the bottom out tech they have)

    Thanks guys!
    Funny, I used to have Large 2018 Stumpjumper Comp in size Large with Diamond 160 up front and Topaz for the shock. Last year I sold the bike and built Pole Taival and it was perfect in fit and geometry wise. But since I moved from NYC to Utah, I wanted FS. Evolink was out of my price range so I grabbed Evo S3 27.5 frame, but will build as 29er. Cane Creek Helm Air up front and thinking of CC DB IL Air. There are few brand new 210x55 under $300 on eBay.
    I even considered Hunt wheelset, but decided to go fancy with Project 321 hubs

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    I rather keep the sag the same on both ends. Keeps the geometry the same, the Sag percentage is then to your liking

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    This question has probably been asked before, but here goes. I have a buyer for my S Works Carbon Evo 27.5 S3, but only if he can put a Fox Float X2 on. Does anyone know if the X2 will fit on this frame with no issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by endoguru View Post
    This question has probably been asked before, but here goes. I have a buyer for my S Works Carbon Evo 27.5 S3, but only if he can put a Fox Float X2 on. Does anyone know if the X2 will fit on this frame with no issues?
    I think a guy put up a post only recently showing it worked, the carbon frame had more clearance than the alloy too. It's a very tight fit, however only at full extension/unladen, once it moves through the travel the gap between aircan and frame grows.

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    ENDURO POLL: Any else here considering upgrading to the new 2020 Specialized Enduro?!

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    The Hunt Trail wide wheelset has been great so far, cant report anything bad on them yet, but for the price point (with shipping to the US) was too hard to pass up.

    I see the CC DB IL 210X55 you're talking about on ebay. that price is also too good to pass up anyone wouldnt happen to know the mounting hardware needed for the alloy evos? :P

    Despite the price I still might go for DVO for self serviceability, but taking a quick look at the instructions, looks easier said than done
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    Sorry to spam it up but I have SJ tuned Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ulitimate 210mm x 52.5mm up for sale

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    2020 Enduro

    Quote Originally Posted by swift685 View Post
    ENDURO POLL: Any else here considering upgrading to the new 2020 Specialized Enduro?!


    based on this comment below from a well written review of the 2020 Enduro, i'll be keeping my stumpjumper evo for a long while. Although id be opened to a test ride changing my perception.

    "But I want to emphasize ďrace bike.Ē For this is not a playful, poppy, jump, whip, jib, fun-time machine. This is a racing tool and all business. Itís not a trail bike, and itís not a park bike. Itís for taking the straightest, fastest, line between two points, squashing jumps, and finding all the traction so you can brake harder, and drive it harder through turns. Itís about holding onto as much speed as possible at all times and giving you the confidence to push your hardest. Point, grip, brake, sprint, and repeat: this new Enduro is speed focused."
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    I'm sticking with the Evo. It handles everything I throw at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack88 View Post
    based on this comment below from a well written review, i'll be keeping my stumpjumper evo for a long while. Although id be opened to a test ride changing my perception.

    "But I want to emphasize ďrace bike.Ē For this is not a playful, poppy, jump, whip, jib, fun-time machine. This is a racing tool and all business. Itís not a trail bike, and itís not a park bike. Itís for taking the straightest, fastest, line between two points, squashing jumps, and finding all the traction so you can brake harder, and drive it harder through turns. Itís about holding onto as much speed as possible at all times and giving you the confidence to push your hardest. Point, grip, brake, sprint, and repeat: this new Enduro is speed focused."
    Yes
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    To anyone who has replaced the stock handlebars with anything else: are you willing to sell me the stock bars? Let me know.

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    A few pics from Whistler

    20190928_142033 by Sales Punk, on Flickr

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    20190928_151546 by Sales Punk, on Flickr

    Bike was amazing, can't believe how capable this 140/150 bike is even on some very nasty trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoball218 View Post
    The Hunt Trail wide wheelset has been great so far, cant report anything bad on them yet, but for the price point (with shipping to the US) was too hard to pass up.

    I see the CC DB IL 210X55 you're talking about on ebay. that price is also too good to pass up anyone wouldnt happen to know the mounting hardware needed for the alloy evos? :P

    Despite the price I still might go for DVO for self serviceability, but taking a quick look at the instructions, looks easier said than done
    Pop your fox Bushings and Pin out, put into the Cane Creek, bottom side of shock nothing needs to be done, feed the flip chip in.

    Don't need to purchase anything! Well worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brash View Post
    Pop your fox Bushings and Pin out, put into the Cane Creek, bottom side of shock nothing needs to be done, feed the flip chip in.

    Don't need to purchase anything! Well worth doing.
    Anyone know the mounting hardware size? Mine is worn out and I canít find the dimensions anywhere.

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    For all those wondering, a 2020 x2 will fit on my s2 27.5 alloy with about 1/16" to spare. Attached are images of the exact part number as well as full extension and full compression of the shock. Got about 10 hard miles on it so far, and no rubbing due to frame flex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hy24den View Post
    For all those wondering, a 2020 x2 will fit on my s2 27.5 alloy with about 1/16" to spare. Attached are images of the exact part number as well as full extension and full compression of the shock. Got about 10 hard miles on it so far, and no rubbing due to frame flex.
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    I tried to mount an X2 on an S3 and it would not fit. Just an FYI.

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    I have just taken delivery of an alloy S2 29er, and I have a 210x55 X2 from my Rocky Mountain that I will attempt to fit at some point.

    will be interesting to see if it fits.

    Did you transfer the shock hardware over from the original shock? Or buy new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brash View Post
    Pop your fox Bushings and Pin out, put into the Cane Creek, bottom side of shock nothing needs to be done, feed the flip chip in.

    Don't need to purchase anything! Well worth doing.
    Easy peasy after all! Thanks! 😁

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    Anyone here replaced the original FSA headset? And if so what did they replace it with?

    Mine (2020) has been giving me greif recently! Stripped it down and both the fork crown race, and even more so the top version is pitted and worn, it's like the bearings aren't moving and instead the are rotating on the aluminum. The most obvious thing here would be the headset is loose, but I'm very sensitive to that so I know it's not the case.

    The bearings are both in good order, the bike is 3 months old and not seen that much action yet.

    Taking the bearings out of the frame I noticed the lower bearing is a nice fit, but the top bearing slops around in the frame, measured it and there's 0.25mm of clearance (while the bottom has nothing like this).

    The I.D. of the top of the frame is 42mm while the bearing is 41.75mm - anyone else have similar issues?

    I can't tell if the frame is incorrect or the bearing is underspec.

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    Which begs the question: Why does Specialized insist on making frames that way?

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    I am planning to do S3 27.5 convert to 29er wheels and fork. I know some of you have already done it and i would like to ask you are my calculations right: Is the BB height around 347mm in low setting? And is there still enough clearance between seat tube and tyre when bottoming out?
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by moity View Post
    Anyone here replaced the original FSA headset? And if so what did they replace it with?

    Mine (2020) has been giving me greif recently! Stripped it down and both the fork crown race, and even more so the top version is pitted and worn, it's like the bearings aren't moving and instead the are rotating on the aluminum. The most obvious thing here would be the headset is loose, but I'm very sensitive to that so I know it's not the case.

    The bearings are both in good order, the bike is 3 months old and not seen that much action yet.

    Taking the bearings out of the frame I noticed the lower bearing is a nice fit, but the top bearing slops around in the frame, measured it and there's 0.25mm of clearance (while the bottom has nothing like this).

    The I.D. of the top of the frame is 42mm while the bearing is 41.75mm - anyone else have similar issues?

    I can't tell if the frame is incorrect or the bearing is underspec.
    Highly likely the bearing will be well within tolerance. Integrated headsets like what Specialized and a few others use are a terrible idea IMO. If you happen to get a frame that is towards the end of the mill tools life or isnít adequately cleaned or cooled during machining you will get a sloppy fit and a headset that creaks or repeatedly loosens. Also a pressed in headset cup can be 7000 series aluminum and heat treated/anodized which is far more resistant to being ridden loose. Iíve seen two Specialized frames ruined by being run loose for a ride which wouldnít be an issue on frames with pressed cups.

    Loctite bearing retainer can help if you have a sloppy fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moity View Post
    Anyone here replaced the original FSA headset? And if so what did they replace it with?

    Mine (2020) has been giving me greif recently! Stripped it down and both the fork crown race, and even more so the top version is pitted and worn, it's like the bearings aren't moving and instead the are rotating on the aluminum. The most obvious thing here would be the headset is loose, but I'm very sensitive to that so I know it's not the case.

    The bearings are both in good order, the bike is 3 months old and not seen that much action yet.

    Taking the bearings out of the frame I noticed the lower bearing is a nice fit, but the top bearing slops around in the frame, measured it and there's 0.25mm of clearance (while the bottom has nothing like this).

    The I.D. of the top of the frame is 42mm while the bearing is 41.75mm - anyone else have similar issues?

    I can't tell if the frame is incorrect or the bearing is underspec.
    Contact Spec, sounds like a warranty issue to me. Bearing should not be loose in the cup. One note is to make sure you grease the bearing and cup. This will help eliminate creaking/popping for a while. I typically have to redo the grease every few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d View Post
    Which begs the question: Why does Specialized insist on making frames that way?
    Specialized is not the only one, most of the manufacturers have moved to this process including Santa Cruz. Not sure why, but my guess is something to do with cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Contact Spec, sounds like a warranty issue to me. Bearing should not be loose in the cup. One note is to make sure you grease the bearing and cup. This will help eliminate creaking/popping for a while. I typically have to redo the grease every few months.
    Thanks for the comment, will let you know how I get on when I can take it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuiGe View Post
    I am planning to do S3 27.5 convert to 29er wheels and fork. I know some of you have already done it and i would like to ask you are my calculations right: Is the BB height around 347mm in low setting? And is there still enough clearance between seat tube and tyre when bottoming out?
    Thank you
    Yes, that's about right on BB height. I have run mine as full 29er and as mullet. Both good. For running as 29er, clearance is fine, even with the spacer taken out of the shock for longer travel.

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    I recently tried the 27.5 to 29 setup. It works fine, clearance is great with 55mm stroke, and the BB height is basically like a normal enduro bike. Great for racing/bombing down rough stuff. Only problem is super super slack HA. You will get 62.6HA if u use a 160 fork. U will fell the front slipping away on loose turns. Shame cannot use Angleset for this frame

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    a longer stem will help and also roll the bars more forward. Helped me.

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    I'm about 20 rides in on a new 27.5 comp alloy. Rolling the handlebars forward made a huge difference in controlling the bike while climbing and descending.

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    Just finished building my 27.5 frame with 29 components. Fork is set at 150mm but will try 160 once I have enough rides.
    Not a fan of Fox shock and going to replace with Cane Creek.
    Question: should I go with coil or air IL or CS? I have Helm Air up front and really like it's tuneability.

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    Robik, I have both the DB Air CS and DB Coil IL and I think the Air CS is the better choice IMO but only for progression on ramp up. The coil is obviously butter on small bump but these bikes are not progressive enough to avoid slamming the bottom out bumper quite a bit, upping spring rate and running 20-25% sag just loses the small bump compliance and you are not really getting the full benefit of a coil.

    Just one blue band spacer (or none) in the AirCS at 30% sag works well.


    Edit: sorry just realised you were comparing both Air shoks not the coil, Go with the Air CS imo

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    I've just booked to fly to NZ to ride queenstown and surrounds for 2 weeks.

    Having never used a bikebag before, am I going to have issues fitting a 29'er S3 in a typical bike bag? Anyone else travelled with the Big 29er before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brash View Post
    I've just booked to fly to NZ to ride queenstown and surrounds for 2 weeks.

    Having never used a bikebag before, am I going to have issues fitting a 29'er S3 in a typical bike bag? Anyone else travelled with the Big 29er before.
    My S2 barely fit in an EVOC Bike Bag Pro. Youíll be able to make it work if you let air out of the shock and compress the bike a bit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brash View Post
    I've just booked to fly to NZ to ride queenstown and surrounds for 2 weeks.

    Having never used a bikebag before, am I going to have issues fitting a 29'er S3 in a typical bike bag? Anyone else travelled with the Big 29er before.
    My S3 29 fits fine in my Evoc bag

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    Thanks. Iíll borrow my buddies and have some practice runs

    Canít wait. I feel this is where the big stumpy will shine.

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    Cane Creek Shock

    [QUOTE=Robik;14371607]Just finished building my 27.5 frame with 29 components. Fork is set at 150mm but will try 160 once I have enough rides.
    Not a fan of Fox shock and going to replace with Cane Creek.
    Question: should I go with coil or air IL or CS? I have Helm Air up front and really like it's tuneability.

    Robik,

    Donīt use a C C Inline air , I did it and broke it in two pieces after the first ride , Cane Creek offered the DB air CS as a more robust option and it has been great after a while. Cane creek realized inlines are not good for stumpys as our bikes put too much force on the down eyelet area . As Brash said Air CS offers good support and bottom out resistance without any harshness. 210x55

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    [QUOTE=tonijou;14378969]
    Quote Originally Posted by Robik View Post
    Just finished building my 27.5 frame with 29 components. Fork is set at 150mm but will try 160 once I have enough rides.
    Not a fan of Fox shock and going to replace with Cane Creek.
    Question: should I go with coil or air IL or CS? I have Helm Air up front and really like it's tuneability.

    Robik,

    Donīt use a C C Inline air , I did it and broke it in two pieces after the first ride , Cane Creek offered the DB air CS as a more robust option and it has been great after a while. Cane creek realized inlines are not good for stumpys as our bikes put too much force on the down eyelet area . As Brash said Air CS offers good support and bottom out resistance without any harshness. 210x55
    Thanks for the heads up! I almost pulled the trigger on one off the eBay as the price is too good to pass. Will definitely get an CS.

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    You won't regret it Robike, great shocks with a LOT of tuning capability. I have a good baseline tune if you get stuck. Even at 225lb body weight I only require 170psi to maintain 30% sag on the Air CS which is a nice change. The initial stroke is very supple, very similar to a fox X2. But has a more pronounced "notch" in the travel when the air travels through the transfer port. You don't notice it on the trail however.

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    Guys, now that you've been ridden longer, what's the feeling? Offset 44 or 51 what's the difference or is it.

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    I had a 150mm 51 mm offset Yari on for a month while my stock Rhythm was in for warranty. I noticed the quicker steering with the 51mm offset.(which was fine).. But the added wheelbase and less weight on the front was noticeable. In the end I preferred the 44mm offset.
    Quote Originally Posted by Macharza View Post
    Guys, now that you've been ridden longer, what's the feeling? Offset 44 or 51 what's the difference or is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ1408 View Post
    I had a 150mm 51 mm offset Yari on for a month while my stock Rhythm was in for warranty. I noticed the quicker steering with the 51mm offset.(which was fine).. But the added wheelbase and less weight on the front was noticeable. In the end I preferred the 44mm offset.
    Thanks for reply. That's how I thought things were going to change

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    Out of interest, what was wrong with your Rhythm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moity View Post
    Thanks for the comment, will let you know how I get on when I can take it back.
    New headset fitted... First ride, problem came back. Everything points to the headset, but to makes things worse the problem comes and goes. The shop thinks it could be the fork if not the headset but it's not like any CSU creak I've heard before, and it's inconsistent.

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    Hi,
    I just f*** up my knee, so I'm considering swapping chainring to get some oval stuff so I can keep biking before surgery. Yes I'm lazy and don't wanna remove everything at the moment, do anybody know if the OEM NX chainring is standard (3mm) offset or is it 6mm ?(I'm running 11 speed 11-50 cassette). Please let me know if you know what the specs are, cheers !

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    hi all,
    anyone know what the chainline is on the alloy stumpy evo, im changing over to Shimano 12 speed and there's 3 different boost crankset available ...
    ta

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    Quote Originally Posted by louf View Post
    hi all,
    anyone know what the chainline is on the alloy stumpy evo, im changing over to Shimano 12 speed and there's 3 different boost crankset available ...
    ta
    i struggled to find this info but..

    73mm BB shell width
    2.5mm spacer on drive side of MT800 BB

    so

    52mm chainline is what i bought. No issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack88 View Post
    i struggled to find this info but..

    73mm BB shell width
    2.5mm spacer on drive side of MT800 BB

    so

    52mm chainline is what i bought. No issues
    Good info, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack88 View Post
    i struggled to find this info but..

    73mm BB shell width
    2.5mm spacer on drive side of MT800 BB

    so

    52mm chainline is what i bought. No issues
    thanks 👍

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    I have some you can buy if youíre still looking.

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    anyone has info on frame weight of s2 carbon vs alloy?

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    First time was fork stuck down.
    Now they are sent off for a creaky steer tube. My shop has a loaner fork which is great.
    Quote Originally Posted by moity View Post
    Out of interest, what was wrong with your Rhythm?

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    Take the fork off and wrap the steer tube in a cloth and lightly clamp it horizontal in a vice. Then push the lowers quickly and firmly forward and backward and then try side to side. That will isolate it for you. That will put to rest whether it was the headset or not,
    Quote Originally Posted by moity View Post
    New headset fitted... First ride, problem came back. Everything points to the headset, but to makes things worse the problem comes and goes. The shop thinks it could be the fork if not the headset but it's not like any CSU creak I've heard before, and it's inconsistent.
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    Hey guys - if anyone is interested we weighed my S3 27.5 comp alloy which is stock and it came in just over 34 lbs.

    Sorry if I missed this on the thread but seems like some of you bought the 27.5 bike and put 29" wheels on it? If you did I'm curious why you would do that instead of buying the 29er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatesfamily9 View Post
    Hey guys - if anyone is interested we weighed my S3 27.5 comp alloy which is stock and it came in just over 34 lbs.

    Sorry if I missed this on the thread but seems like some of you bought the 27.5 bike and put 29" wheels on it? If you did I'm curious why you would do that instead of buying the 29er?
    I bought 27.5 frame for less than 1K in perfect used condition. Had all good parts for 29 build. It came slacker, longer and with higher BB. Win-win?
    PS: I usually swap the frame/bike every year or two, so no big deal

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    Cool thanks have fun!

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    Good job! IMPORTANT: MRP Progressive Coil Spring

    IMPORTANT UPDATE for all those with a Coil Rear Shock:

    The MRP progressive coil spring is the truth! Just installed it the other day and took it for a test run off the biggest jumps and drops I could find.

    No more having to over spring the bike at 25% sag to prevent harsh bottom outs or prevent the bike from wallowing like crazy under power.

    The Stumpy EVO has only 9.5% Progression in the rear linkage which basically means it is almost completely linear and NOT a suitable match for a coil shock, let alone one with only 140-150mm travel.

    That said, the MRP progressive spring adds 10-15% progression depending on the weight, giving the EVO around 20% progression and since the progression can be felt at just 50% travel with no real pedal kickback it pedals like a dream with much support in berms and off jumps and drops.

    It's a whole NEW BIKE, almost like a short travel Enduro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swift685 View Post
    IMPORTANT UPDATE for all those with a Coil Rear Shock:

    The MRP progressive coil spring is the truth! Just installed it the other day and took it for a test run off the biggest jumps and drops I could find.

    No more having to over spring the bike at 25% sag to prevent harsh bottom outs or prevent the bike from wallowing like crazy under power.

    The Stumpy EVO has only 9.5% Progression in the rear linkage which basically means it is almost completely linear and NOT a suitable match for a coil shock, let alone one with only 140-150mm travel.

    That said, the MRP progressive spring adds 10-15% progression depending on the weight, giving the EVO around 20% progression and since the progression can be felt at just 50% travel with no real pedal kickback it pedals like a dream with much support in berms and off jumps and drops.

    It's a whole NEW BIKE, almost like a short travel Enduro!
    I need to invest in one of these springs but I don't think the rate goes high enough yet. I'm running a 600lb now, and it's great until I case a jump or land to flat. The 650lb solves this but rides higher in the travel and unless I compensate with my fork gives a "stinkbug" rear high stance.

    So a progressive spring that starts at 600lb and ends at 650 would be spot on.

    I'm going to bring both air and coil to NZ for my trip because knowing my luck I'll blow a shock up. But if I'm having too much fun on the jump trails can quickly swap to the air shock.

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    Hi everyone. I like to buy SJ EVO Comp Alloy, but can't decide if 27.5 or 29? I've ridden Specialized Status and Cube Sting 29 (it has 140mm travel rear). I'm 176. Looking for S2 frame in both wheel sizes. Bike is going to be used in bike parks and on local trails.

    I think that 29 is the future, but I don't know if I'm ready for that future. I want to learn a lot of gravity stuff (which is easier on 27.5 and I'm not so experienced in it), but I want to participate in local enduro events (which is easier on 29 - more speed + higher BB).

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    Quote Originally Posted by swift685 View Post
    IMPORTANT UPDATE for all those with a Coil Rear Shock:

    The MRP progressive coil spring is the truth! Just installed it the other day and took it for a test run off the biggest jumps and drops I could find.

    No more having to over spring the bike at 25% sag to prevent harsh bottom outs or prevent the bike from wallowing like crazy under power.

    The Stumpy EVO has only 9.5% Progression in the rear linkage which basically means it is almost completely linear and NOT a suitable match for a coil shock, let alone one with only 140-150mm travel.

    That said, the MRP progressive spring adds 10-15% progression depending on the weight, giving the EVO around 20% progression and since the progression can be felt at just 50% travel with no real pedal kickback it pedals like a dream with much support in berms and off jumps and drops.

    It's a whole NEW BIKE, almost like a short travel Enduro!
    I did some research yesterday on progressive springs. Which one did you go for? Because the MRP spring physically wont fit in a 210x55 CC DB IL (too long) and the SAR/Eibach ones do not have a high enough spring rate for my purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plow View Post
    Hi everyone. I like to buy SJ EVO Comp Alloy, but can't decide if 27.5 or 29? I've ridden Specialized Status and Cube Sting 29 (it has 140mm travel rear). I'm 176. Looking for S2 frame in both wheel sizes. Bike is going to be used in bike parks and on local trails.

    I think that 29 is the future, but I don't know if I'm ready for that future. I want to learn a lot of gravity stuff (which is easier on 27.5 and I'm not so experienced in it), but I want to participate in local enduro events (which is easier on 29 - more speed + higher BB).
    Iíll throw in my $.02 and say go 29. Mainly I think it just edges out the 27.5 as the better all around bike and the bb height is already low enough. This was my first 29 and honestly couldnít tell much difference in wheel size after a few rides.
    The only time I notice the 29s as a negative is it feels a little awkward hitting dirt jumper style hits with short transitions, which I donít do all that often anyway so no biggie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by swift685 View Post


    Freshly completed 29er conversion on a 27.5 EVO Pro S2 Frame!

    BB height is 348. Standover is perfect (31" Inseam). 160 / 155 travel. Great tire clearance. Not much reason to spring for the 29 frame given the results. Spot Fin' On!
    That's a sweet build, thinking a S2 27.5 frame build with 29" wheels could fit the bill here. Still progressive but not as crazy (shorter chainstays, slightly shorter reach, higher BB, and shorter wheelbase compared to a S3 29).

    Is that BB with the flip chip in high or low? Do you know the HA? Have you tried or do you think you'd be able to run an offset shock bushing for a higher BB and steeper HA?

    Also how is the MRP SXg? Might want to run one of those, at least for any park. No issues with only two ISCG 05 holes and play?
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