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    Zap is lame

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    WELCOME TO WISCONSIN: To say that my four decades of life as a Los Angeleno would leave me unprepared for the cultural nuances of Wisconsin would be an understatement?wow, they actually stop at stop signs here! Luckily, Madison is full of some really good eating establishments, chiefly, the Cracker Barrel and Big Mike's Super Subs. As for fashion, heck, as the wife daughter were soon to learn, West Hollywood fashion hot spots like Fred Segal Maxfield have nothing over Blain's Farm Fleet (www.blainsfarmandfleet.com) where you'll find every size and style of Carhart clothing you could imagine. Funny thing about Madison, but egg bagels simply do not exist at any of the local bagel establishments. What do the locals run their salmon lox on, cinnamon-raisin bagels? Then there was the Trek Christmas party. A calm affair to start and although things did start getting busy on the dance floor when Tony Basil's "Mickey" came on, it was when Poison's "Pour Some Sugar On Me" hit the deck that the crowd fell into a fevered, anthem-like, sing-along pitch. Man, these people know how to swing! Sweet home Wisconsin.

    QUOTE: "Today was three degrees warmer than yesterday?which doesn't mean much since it's only five degrees out." The local Channel 7 weather forecaster.

    QUOTE: Daddy, I've already been here a month and I still haven't met anybody with a Spanish last name." My eleven year old daughter Xakota, getting used to a new cultural reality of living in Wisconsin.

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    I am pissed!

    Sort of like saying: Daddy, we're so Mexican, that there's too many white people around us, and not enough tacos to go around.

    Um, Zap, there are a lot of Hispanics living in WI. I'm one...and so is the majority of Kenosha, Racine, Milwaukee, West Allis, Waukesha, and a lot or them in Green Bay, and Madison...just stay off the campus and explore more than just a nice college town.

    I can attest that Zap is making a lot of generalizations waaaaay to quickly. There's undertones of "the Midwest sucks" in that message.

    Poison's "Pour Some Sugar On Me." Actually, that's Def Leppard.

    If you feel like you need to email him some of your own personal idiocy: talktozap@trekbikes.com
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    zap is an idiot. a has-been who really never was...

    if he doesn't like wisconsin, why the fock did he move there? oh, yeah, because no one else would have him.

    it's not like anything he's complaining about should have come as a surprise, even though a degree of it is an overgeneralization. plus, he's leaving out all the good things about wisconsin, like johnsonville brats from sheboygan, leinenkugels beer from chippewa falls, trout fishing on the racine and kinikinic rivers, and riding mountain bikes in the woods.

    zap sucks.

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    Zap is lame

    gee, no kidding?

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    yes. proving once again what a talentless hack he is. mind you now - fully 85% percent of the people born and raised in wisconsin could have come p with more creative blurbs on why wisconsin is . . . . . .well, wisconsin. for zap to go to the lame-ass " fleet farm/fashion " and " the population is mostly white northerner" cards is so pathetic it defies words.

    how 'bout we counter with " LA is really smoggy ", or perhaps " everybody in los angeles is either a stuck up superficial a-hole or a criminal and you will have everything you own stolen inside 5 minutes " hoo boy is THAT ever funny and creative, no?

    still, a fellow has to wonder - just what is that idiot doing here, anyway? is trek better off with him? are we ?? whatinthehell did he THINK wisconsin was like, anyway ??? etc etc. dumbass. say zap - whatsay we meet at kewaunee winter park's singletrack, or lax's human powered trails ? levis trow. maybe we'll bust out a loop on the road in the driftless area on fixies on the ironman wisconsin course for a hundie+ miles. what's that you say? you don't know where those are? here is a tip, then shut the hell up until you know what you are talking about.

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    Seems like he's laughing at himself more than anyone else.

    I wouldn't worry about anything he says if I were you. Why does his opinion matter to you?
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    why?

    Quote Originally Posted by scorcher seb
    Seems like he's laughing at himself more than anyone else.

    I wouldn't worry about anything he says if I were you. Why does his opinion matter to you?
    Why? because of his extreme left, and because he's a nogooder Mexicano. There's an undertone that he's the all emcompassing Mexican. He's not. And I like defending the Midwest. A lot of people from out west think that we're nothing but a bunch of cheese eating, Carthart wearin' rednecks that like to eat at the Cracker Barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernesto_from_Wisconsin
    Why? because of his extreme left, and because he's a nogooder Mexicano. There's an undertone that he's the all emcompassing Mexican. He's not. And I like defending the Midwest. A lot of people from out west think that we're nothing but a bunch of cheese eating, Carthart wearin' rednecks that like to eat at the Cracker Barrel.
    life's far too short to care that much about one person's opinions. get over it!

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    over it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phat_Head
    life's far too short to care that much about one person's opinions. get over it!
    Sorry I vented. It was all 5 minute angst.

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    Zp has a wife daughter? Are those even allowed in Wisconsin?
    When the going gets weird its bedtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooglin
    Zp has a wife daughter? Are those even allowed in Wisconsin?
    its wisconsin, usually they're one in the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernesto_from_Wisconsin
    Why? because of his extreme left, and because he's a nogooder Mexicano. There's an undertone that he's the all emcompassing Mexican. He's not. And I like defending the Midwest. A lot of people from out west think that we're nothing but a bunch of cheese eating, Carthart wearin' rednecks that like to eat at the Cracker Barrel.
    whats wrong with eating cheese and wearing carharts never been to cracker barrel but im from iowa

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernesto_from_Wisconsin
    ... it was when Poison's "Pour Some Sugar On Me" hit the deck that the crowd fell into a fevered, anthem-like, sing-along pitch.
    I'm just upset that he thought Poison did "Pour Some Sugar On Me".

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    Ummmm, a serious question to ponder?

    Have you ever seen Poison and Def Leppard in the same room together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernesto_from_Wisconsin
    A lot of people from out west think that we're nothing but a bunch of cheese eating, Carthart wearin' rednecks that like to eat at the Cracker Barrel.
    This Californian just did a web search to figure out what the hell Carthart is. Now I know.

    Wisconsin doesn't have a lock on the cheese thing... have you seen our comercials? Happy cows.....

    The only saving grace for zap in this note is that he didn't know Def Leapord did "Pour some sugar..." I'm kind of sad that I do know that.

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    damn straight

    I mean, where else can one find the worlds biggest muskie?

    Or for that matter, mamaland

    Represent!

    YO MAMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUD
    its wisconsin, usually they're one in the same...
    you are mistaken. that's illinois.

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    hahaha

    He gives real Angelenos a bad name.

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    Its Carhartt...

    can't believe no one knows how to spell Carhartt. jeez.
    oh yeah, Zap is lame...thanks for the proof Ernesto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernesto_from_Wisconsin
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    WELCOME TO WISCONSIN:
    Where did this come from... Is Zap sending out bulk email now?

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    yes, Zap is a spammer...

    Quote Originally Posted by george_da_trog
    Where did this come from... Is Zap sending out bulk email now?

    george
    Who knows how my email address got to his lame list, but yes, it was a n email bomb that went out in his part.

    I am sure he's read this, i sent the link to him. he's probably sobbing and rocking back and forth under his bed.

    Anyway, went for a badass rainy SS 42/16 ride in the Wiscinsin hills after work. Felt so good to ride as it was getting dark. I'm doing the same tomorrow at 4 am.

    Bite me!

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    Well, having grown up 10 miles west of Wisconsin, I've gotta defend the cheesers here. Never thought I'd say that, but Zap's doing what he does best - shooting his mouth off and sounding like an idiot (amazing he can get Trek to pay him to do this).

    C'mon, that Poison incident could have happened among nearly any gathering of thirtysomethings ANYWHERE in this country. And yeah, sure it's white. Hasn't he been watching "Happy Days" and "That 70s Show?" Get out and visit some farm country and meet some hispanics - and BTW, there's a hella lot more Native Americans (proportionally) in WI than CA, so so much for lily-whiteness.

    [rant]
    As for the California "It's the Cheese" commercials ... please. That campaign is a laughingstock here in Oregon, and probably a whole lot other places too. If anything, it's fueled a backlash and increased consumption of local cheese. You're throwing your money away running those commercials outside your own state. Hey, at least a little bit of WI's cheese is still produced by small family farms.
    [/rant]

    Now that they no longer pull over out-of-staters for going 1 mph over the limit, WI ain't that bad. It's pretty, it's wooded, and the weather keeps the pansies away. Don't forget, #1 per-capita consumption of beer and whiskey. On the other hand, to hear Ernesto tell it, I guess the place is infested by gnomes now.

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    Where to start... There's more restraunts per capita in madison that anywhere else, with an incredible variety (Thai, Chineese, Greek, Afghan, Mexican, Jamaican, Italian...Just to name a few.) I've gotten an egg bagel at some bagel store here, i know it. It would be pretty hard to get to farm and fleet in madison (i know, i drive past it on the way to work 5 days a week) and not have met any mexicans. Hell, he can come to my place. There's an awesome mexican grocery store down the street and most of my neighbors are mexican. Probably a lot more mexican that Zap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    Ummmm, a serious question to ponder?

    Have you ever seen Poison and Def Leppard in the same room together?

    I think Poison's drummer has two arms.

    Man, that was almost as lame as Zap and possibly lamer that I know that much about Def Leppard
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    I ran into Zap at Starbucks about a year ago...

    Nice guy, but he seemed pretty damn whitewashed.

    --Vlad

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    the horror…

    I lived in Wisconsin, grew up in Racine. I even worked at Farm & Fleet – those *******s made me wear a shirt with the name “Norm” sewed on it for six months, until I quit. I think Norm died or something, probably from working such a crappy job.

    I’m not going to defend Wisconsin, I’m happy to have escaped – but I do miss riding the Kettle Moraine trails though… Those are some of the best trails I’ve ever been on…

    ~Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad
    Nice guy, but he seemed pretty damn whitewashed.

    --Vlad
    He is a bit of a coconut.

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    A little secret..

    People from outside Wisconsin think it's scary, and to tell you the truth, it is.

    Wisconsin is -not- a normal state. Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, pipe bombers, panty thieves, in-breeding, we've got it all.

    Give Zap a couple of months and he'll be loving it.

    And before any of you 'sconnies try to jump on my arse, be advised that I've lived here pretty much my entire life. I've gone out of my way to get to know the heart and soul of Wisconsin. I've hung with the spookyest locals in the smallest hillbilly towns, and while scary as fsck, most people are pretty damn cool once you get to know 'em. (besides the random Klan members and Posse Comitatus people around Loyal..)

    Again, give Zap a little time and he'll be representing Wiscompton is no time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destroyeverything
    It's Carhartt....can't believe no one knows how to spell Carhartt. jeez.
    No crap! I wonder what the Californian found earlier while searching for "Carthart." Sad.

    I like Farm and Fleet, it's a nice store. I wish we had some down here in Kentucky.

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