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    wider bar, shorter stem on an old steel surly

    i'm thinking of switching out the 105-ish stem and narrow-assed bar on my karate monkey to a 90mm with a 780 bar which i might cut down till i like it.

    the bike was handed down to me used, so i'm not sure exactly what size it is. i'm pretty sure the geometry is pre long-low-slack.

    when i ride the bike, the bars are it now feel super narrow, but everything else seems to fit. it might be worth mentioning i have not ridden this bike in a while and have become used to riding the short stem wide bar combo on my dualie.

    can you readers throw the pros and cons of wider bar/shorter stem on a singlespeed i mostly use to ride on fast sandy singletrack interspersed with some roots here and there?

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    Wider bars and a shorter stem shouldnít affect that one too much; it already has a squishy fork thatís slackened everything out a bit. Worth a shot, in any case; you can always go back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sage of the Sage View Post
    Wider bars and a shorter stem shouldnít affect that one too much; it already has a squishy fork thatís slackened everything out a bit. Worth a shot, in any case; you can always go back.
    that's not a suspension fork--it's carbon and rigid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    that's not a suspension fork--it's carbon and rigid.
    Carver? In any case, itís definitely suspension corrected. I stand by my previous assessment.
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    Go for 80mm and you'll probably love it and not cut the bars down too much! I had two of those first gen monkeys, LOVED them, especially with a shorter stem/wider bar combo. I think I ran an 80 and a 60mm stem at one point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sage of the Sage View Post
    Carver? In any case, itís definitely suspension corrected. I stand by my previous assessment.
    i think i'll give it a try.

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    so here we go.

    780mm bar, 80mm stem.

    here's photographs of the old and new setups; what should i expect as far as handling changes? this is the first time i've made such a big change on a bike. i hope it's an improvement. one thing i will say is my hands wanted to be farther out on the KM.

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    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    In my experience a shorter stem and wider handle bars will give you a much more sensitive front end when turning but it will feel lighter and be easier to pop over rocks.

    If you have a playful riding style then a shorter stem wider handlebar is a great combo but if you are just focused on long distance rides then the combo will result in more forearm fatigue on 50+ mile days

    Just get out and ride it.....you will feel the difference a lot faster(immediatly) than you can read about it online

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singletrackd View Post
    In my experience a shorter stem and wider handle bars will give you a much more sensitive front end when turning but it will feel lighter and be easier to pop over rocks.

    If you have a playful riding style then a shorter stem wider handlebar is a great combo but if you are just focused on long distance rides then the combo will result in more forearm fatigue on 50+ mile days

    Just get out and ride it.....you will feel the difference a lot faster(immediatly) than you can read about it online
    an answer i was looking for. thanks.

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