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    What frame for XC racing?

    Giant XTC advanced 3 - I'll strip it down and rebuild from frame up
    Soma Vall Hallan
    Vassago Jaberwokky if i can get one
    Trek Stache, I may be able to get a used frame

    Sorry for another one of these posts but I need help deciding. I'll be using for new England rocks and roots etc.

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    In the end, on race day, the frame will make less difference than you will, especially single speed. Get what you can put your hands on and build up easiest, so you can start riding it sooner.

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    Just curious what your criteria is? These frames are all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    Just curious what your criteria is? These frames are all over the place.
    I have an existing boost wheelset I was going to use so that's part of it. I also want to keep the frame cost around $500 as well.

    The stache and the giant have sliding drop outs. I was under the impression that's better for SS chain tension vs using an eccentric BB

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    I have an existing boost wheelset I was going to use so that's part of it. I also want to keep the frame cost around $500 as well.

    The stache and the giant have sliding drop outs. I was under the impression that's better for SS chain tension vs using an eccentric BB

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    Cool, just meant the bike styles were very different with the mix of materials and purposes.

    Definitely sliding dropouts. Soma would be out for me on that alone for a dedicated SS.

    Typically when I think race, I'm still in the steeper HT, and as light as possible, mindset.

    So the Giant from a frame only would probably be my first pick if for mainly racing, but not my first pick overall.

    I'd think I'd probably lean towards the Jaberwokky, because it is steel, has the best dropouts of this bunch, and has that classic, all business look to it. You should be able to fit 29 x 3 on the newer frames, so it and the stache are close in terms of cushy 29+ if you even want to mess with that. It will also be much more pleasant to ride on all the time than the Giant IMO.

    If the stache is aluminum, it would be out for me compared to the Jaberwokky, carbon, flip a coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    Definitely sliding dropouts. Soma would be out for me on that alone for a dedicated SS.
    Oh wow. Good eye there, I just assumed they would keep using sliders on everything. Yeah, I'd pass on that soma for sure. That's disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    Oh wow. Good eye there, I just assumed they would keep using sliders on everything. Yeah, I'd pass on that soma for sure. That's disappointing.
    What's the problem with using an EBB? Do they not work? Do they just need alot of upkeep?

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    EBB's can be really good or really bad. To be honest I have had better luck with EBB than with sliding dropouts.

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    Giant XTC Advanced 3

    build that puppy up and hammer.

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    I have a carbon frame with BB30 EBB and love the fact that my dropouts arenít sliding as the rear wheel is solid, just a matter of preference imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by khardrunner14 View Post
    EBB's can be really good or really bad. To be honest I have had better luck with EBB than with sliding dropouts.
    Same with me. Looks so much cleaner than paragon/sliding dropouts. No offense to anyone, but just plain ugly to me. My Niner frames' EBB's have never slipped or creaked. Annual cleaning and all good. Same with Jones. Both of these companies are well-versed in EBB's. Problems ensue when you get some poor BB/PF30 frame and convert it. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

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