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    Are there any solid 29er SS options anymore?

    Been out of the SS arena for a few years.

    Looking for another one.

    SC Highball not offered in XL, TT is about 1" too small.

    Niner One9/Air9 could work but I hear creaking horror stories about the BB.

    Surly's break under me.

    Cannondale option is so uninspiring.

    Help me see the light!

    • Custom not an option.
    • Nothing with "wet cat geometry" either.

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    Hi Padre I really like my Stumpy SS. Check out the Carve SS. I know its the big S but they really are great frames good geo.
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    The Highball comes in an XL

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    You can head down the "path" and look at their Konas.
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    Not sure if you're looking for XC, but check out some of the AM SS's. I really liked my Canfield Nimble9. I've also heard good things about Kona Honzo.

    XC wise, I like my current One 9. If I were doing more bikepacking, my old Salsa El Mariachi would've been perfect.

    Regarding Niner EBB, mine has been absolutely trouble-free. Some do have issues, though.

    There are many SS options now, compared to a few years ago. You can also make any BB/PF30 frame into a SS using Beer Components EBB. ie. Chinese carbon frames

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    The Highball comes in an XL
    It does.

    I ride an XXL Tallboy.

    XL is too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    Regarding Niner EBB, mine has been absolutely trouble-free. Some do have issues, though.

    There are many SS options now, compared to a few years ago. You can also make any BB/PF30 frame into a SS using Beer Components EBB. ie. Chinese carbon frames
    More XC for me.

    Wow, that adaptor looks pretty cool! You had any experience with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixgeardan View Post
    Hi Padre I really like my Stumpy SS. Check out the Carve SS. I know its the big S but they really are great frames good geo.
    Take care
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    Hi Dan!

    I do to but the Path doesn't do the Big S any more.

    Would have been my first choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    Not sure if you're looking for XC, but check out some of the AM SS's. I really liked my Canfield Nimble9. I've also heard good things about Kona Honzo.

    Kona Honzo is a geared bike.


    I love my Kona Unit, but unfortunately my knees don't. So I'm going a different route once it's gone.

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    Ventana has a couple.
    El Comandante and The Toro Bravo
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    Quote Originally Posted by frdfandc View Post
    Kona Honzo is a geared bike.
    It's got about as many gears as your Unit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre View Post
    More XC for me.

    Wow, that adaptor looks pretty cool! You had any experience with it?
    No personal experience. I don't remember seeing any neg review, though. I really prefer ebb's, after going through multiple sliders, track ends, and swing drop outs. I've really been wanting to try this out on something like a Yelli Screamy, but I don't know if they have plans for a PF/BB30 option.

    All of my rides are XC, but that AM-ish geo is awesome. Short chainstays is where it's at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre View Post
    It does.

    I ride an XXL Tallboy.

    XL is too small.
    Just going off your original post

    Quote Originally Posted by Padre View Post

    SC Highball not offered in XL, TT is about 1" too small.
    Ventana makes a 24" SS 29er frame
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    The Carve SS is a sweet ride, though the chain is crap. The one we had at the shop sold very quickly, unfortunately we haven't seen a Stumpy SS yet. There is a Ned Overand edition this year that's awesome. Good luck in your search OP

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    On One makes some good options in steel and carbon -- with horizontal dropouts or swap out dropouts. Great prices too.

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    Too bad your shop doesn't do Spec. I just built a XXL Carve SL the other day. We hang built bikes in the basement until it's time to put them on the floor or sell them; the XXL touches the floor!

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    Gunnar Ruffian --- goes up to 23 with a 650 tt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    Too bad your shop doesn't do Spec. I just built a XXL Carve SL the other day. We hang built bikes in the basement until it's time to put them on the floor or sell them; the XXL touches the floor!
    CB2, and you didn't tell me???

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    Neil @ The Path can steer you in the right direction. He's a SS guy.

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    Ventana El Toro Bravo -- SS 29er with 26 1/4" top tube for the largest size.

    Niner EMD 9 -- with the money you save from not getting the One9 you can afford a Phil Wood EBB.

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    [QUOTE=Padre;9915239]
    Niner One9/Air9 could work but I hear creaking horror stories about the BB.
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    FWIW, I traded in my EBB frame for a non-SS frame set up with a tensioner. No regrets. Works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlr40 View Post
    Ventana El Toro Bravo -- SS 29er with 26 1/4" top tube for the largest size.

    Niner EMD 9 -- with the money you save from not getting the One9 you can afford a Phil Wood EBB.
    EMD 9 - 32/20 magic gear, fyi

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    Quote Originally Posted by evoracer View Post
    EMD 9 - 32/20 magic gear, fyi
    It might fit, but I wouldn't want to pedal that up my hills!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre View Post
    More XC for me.

    Wow, that adaptor looks pretty cool! You had any experience with it?
    I have almost 2k on mine now - with an Air9 frame. Been through nasty slop and dry/dusty. I did switch from their recommended carbon assembly paste to Oatley Great White Pipe Assembly Compound after the Mudslinger race in April - have not had it apart again since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre View Post
    It might fit, but I wouldn't want to pedal that up my hills!
    It's a reasonable gear. We probably ride the same hills if you're near The Path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evoracer View Post
    It's a reasonable gear. We probably ride the same hills if you're near The Path.
    Not reasonable for me at 220lbs.

    I'm most happy at 32x22 for the Santa Anas etc.

    Yep, I'm down in Ladera Ranch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre View Post
    Not reasonable for me at 220lbs.

    I'm most happy at 32x22 for the Santa Anas etc.

    Yep, I'm down in Ladera Ranch.
    I hear ya, 224lbs myself and have been known to rock a 22 on occasion in the SA's.

    32/22 with a half link is the magic gear for the non-ebb Niner's if you go that route. Not a tensioner fan. Older EMD's were on sale cheap as well.

    I went with the N9 for SS duty, put the EMD back to a geared climbing bike. It was great as an SS though @ 19lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evoracer View Post
    I hear ya, 224lbs myself and have been known to rock a 22 on occasion in the SA's.

    32/22 with a half link is the magic gear for the non-ebb Niner's if you go that route. Not a tensioner fan. Older EMD's were on sale cheap as well.

    I went with the N9 for SS duty, put the EMD back to a geared climbing bike. It was great as an SS though @ 19lbs.
    My fastest VQ ever (7:52) I was running 32x23. My thought was to be able to sit more. It worked!

    Good to know about the magic gear.

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    I second....(or is the 3rd already?), the numerous Ventana SS options.
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    I am 300lbs and ride a new One9. I was really expecting to have trouble with the EBB, and after a few initial tweaks, I haven't had any issues. I'm sure the new EBB is even better.

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    I'm 230. I love my El Comandante. I couldn't find a less expensive steel alternative with a good tensioning system. Turns out my Ventana has a nice ride.

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    I had a One9 with some issues more or less resolved by the Carbo-Grip method. Geometry was awesome on that bike, but wanted to try a different tensioning system, bought an El Comandante...love the dropouts, geometry is a bit odd plus longish chainstays. Beautiful frame with incredible welds, about a pound heavier with the exact same build. They do make larger sizes and are also willing to make different levels of custom geometry for an up-charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    It's got about as many gears as your Unit.


    Didn't see that it uses the same type of drop outs. Thanks for the correction.

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