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    SS specific hubs

    I've been a fan of HADLEY SS and geared hubs for many years. I use their SS on both my fully rigid SS bikes. I also used the geared hubs when I was riding geared bikes. They really are a perfectly designed precision machined 72POE standard pawl drive and have standard Enduro bearings that have evolved over the years. The Ti free hub and axle conversions have allowed me to use the same hubs as frames evolved 135 to 142 9mm to 15. 20 back to 15. All have been through axle one piece axle. They where ahead of the times, and had non QR hubs before anyone.

    With that said, for the first time in years I'm considering another brand.

    The new Project 321 G2 216POE with the quiet pawls. They're very intriguing with the magnetic pawls and extra oil dampening features, also bearing upgrades.
    The P321 company has been using I9 internals for years, and I9 makes great stuff but they have taken hubs to a new level with this design.
    No, I don't work for them but I do pay attention to the latest with mountain bike stuff. I've already called them and checked and they do make a SS specific free hub(mandatory for me). I like to build strong wider rimmed hoops to a wider flanged hub(bigger than geared Boost148) BTW.

    So anyway, I will post up my review when I get them.
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    My two cents, let someone else be the lab monkey.
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    I'd like to hear how you like them. I am thinking of building another wheel set for me and one for my sons bike with those hubs.
    I would run them on my SS also but I do not need a SS hub. Geared works best for me so I can switch the wheel set within my bike line up lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardmtnbiker View Post
    So anyway, I will post up my review when I get them.
    Please don't unless it's 2022 or you hit 10K miles.

    Thanks!

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    My two cents, let someone else be the lab monkey.
    Exactly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brent701 View Post
    I would run them on my SS also but I do not need a SS hub. Geared works best for me so I can switch the wheel set within my bike line up lol
    A SS specific hub doesn't make a HUGE difference but I don't really need a geared hub and who knows what the spacing standards will be when I do. Heck, the new Pivot SB has already gone wider.
    I may just build up one of my old SS hubs into a 1x5 or 2x5 townie bike with an old steel frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardmtnbiker View Post
    A SS specific hub doesn't make a HUGE difference but I don't really need a geared hub and who knows what the spacing standards will be when I do. Heck, the new Pivot SB has already gone wider.
    I may just build up one of my old SS hubs into a 1x5 or 2x5 townie bike with an old steel frame
    I feel ya, I ran a I9 SS hub on my older Vassago OpTi.
    But having a XC race bike in Boost and a Plus bike in Boost. I switch my wheelsets back and forth.
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    I'm still trying to figure this out, but it seems like the space between the flanges on an SS hub (at least the SS hub I have) is 10mm wider than a geared hub. A boost hub, which is supposed to be stiffer and stronger is only 6mm wider than standard, so it would seem that an SS hub would still be even better than a boost geared hub? Again, could be wrong, I'm not a hub scientist.

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    I think it's to account for the lack of dish

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjphillips View Post
    I think it's to account for the lack of dish
    Oh, yeah I understand that. What I was wondering is if an SS hub would be stronger than a boost hub and I think it would because it has more width and less dish. But I don't really know.

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    You're correct. A SS specific hub has a wider flange than a Boost148. Therefore is a stronger wheel with almost zero dish.
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    No issues with a Stan's 3.30 SS or a Paul WORD.
    Now running the Stan's on a Kona Unit and went to a geared hub on the Chameleon instead of the WORD for ease of gear changes.

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    IMHO, anything more that 72 poe is just a gimmick. You won't notice a difference. I'm sure they are nice hubs and all, but I'll stick with my trusty DT Swiss hubs...

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    I love my 72 POE Hadley hubs and agree that additional POE may go unnoticed, but the silent hub thing is what entices me.
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    You will notice the higher POE if you climb a lot of technical trails and rock ledges

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    I agree I love high engagement hubs, even on the flats I can tell a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azjonboy View Post
    You will notice the higher POE if you climb a lot of technical trails and rock ledges
    That.

    I end up doing a lot of clumsy ratcheting when things get tough. No doubt a better rider would glide through, but a high poe is useful to me.
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    Onyx makes a SS specific boost hub with super wide spacing in between flanges and instant engagement at the cost of a little more weight at the center of the wheel where it matters least.

    https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/mt...148-12mm-thru/

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    ONYX makes awesome hubs! Not silent but super strong. I see they even have a Boost148/12 single speed specific model. Most SS bikes are 142x12 or 135 so ONYX is really on top of things. The only stock frame I know of that's also Boost148 is SPOT, but I'm sure they have others by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardmtnbiker View Post
    Not silent but super strong.
    I'm almost positive that onyx's hubs are silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radioinactive View Post
    I'm almost positive that onyx's hubs are silent.
    they are. source: i have a pair.

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    I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'm rebuilding a bike for my son now but I'll get back to upgrading one of my single speeds after that. Still deciding on the rim too.
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