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    RF Evolve vs. Saint

    I've been thinking about a new crankset as my Profiles are rusty and overkill for the riding I am doing currently.

    I have been looking at either the RF Evolve SS or Saint. Any other strong contenders with comparable weight, stiffness and (most of all) price? Truvative maybe?

    I had issues w/ waranties from Shim-shim 4 or 5 years ago, I got the damage warantied but it was a major hassle on a set of brand new XT cranks.

    I like the idea of a stiffer BB with the bulls-eye style, how much of this is marketing hype?

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    if profiles are overkill, then saint will be too. I have race face evolve XC ss cranks on my bike and have had zero problems. The bottom bracket is still in great shape after a full summer, fall, and early winter of hard riding.
    They are reasonably light, and way lighter than saint cranks i suspect. They've also resisted being polished by the inside of my shoes... i've seen saints ending up almost mirror-like.
    I swear I can notice the stiffness that outboard bearing cranks offer - especially coming from lower-end square taper stuff. I've ridden ISIS, square taper, octalink, and now outboard. The stiffest cranks i've ever ridden were icon graphite 180mm square taper cranks. the evolves are a close second.

    ps- i have some photos if you'd like.

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    I have Shim Hone cranks on my SS and I have been pleasently impressed. I also think that saints would bee overkill. Good cranks but I use them on my DH

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBiDrive
    I have Shim Hone cranks on my SS and I have been pleasently impressed. I also think that saints would bee overkill. Good cranks but I use them on my DH

    I second the Hone suggestion.. they are great and can be found cheap...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winky
    I've been thinking about a new crankset as my Profiles are rusty and overkill for the riding I am doing currently.

    I have been looking at either the RF Evolve SS or Saint. Any other strong contenders with comparable weight, stiffness and (most of all) price? Truvative maybe?

    I had issues w/ waranties from Shim-shim 4 or 5 years ago, I got the damage warantied but it was a major hassle on a set of brand new XT cranks.

    I like the idea of a stiffer BB with the bulls-eye style, how much of this is marketing hype?

    Thanks,
    Winky
    rf makes great cranks, and their x-types are very strong, very stiff, and reasonably light. the x-type ss is a great crank. very strong, very stiff, and the bearings endure lots of abuse and are relatively inexpensive to replace if you fargle them. i run a set on my mt tam 1x8 and have had zero probs with them. also run a set of xt outboards on another bike again with zero probs.

    another option would be bonty ss cranks with a cobalt bb (unless youre in the "no isis, no way" camp). the cobalt will take whatever you throw at it and comes with a 5 year warranty, and the black chrome bonty ss cranks look sick! in my opinion an excellent combo.

    probably best to avoid the saint. not just its junk, but cuz its heavy.
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    Here is the drivetrain of my bike. evolve xc cranks 34t, white ind fw 17t. I really like the cranks. Tried to upload the pictures and it didn't work.


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    Hone!

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    I love having the bashguard on there as well because I use the bike as a commuter and it keeps my pants from getting caught in the chain. Oh, that and I think it looks cool too. Hone is a great value and they are stealthy black. I do also use the Truvativ Hussefelts on my geared bike and have not had any issues with them either. The Truvativ Hussefelts are a 3 piece crank instead of a 2 piece crank. Is this better or worse? I dunno. Looking at your original choices, I would save the money and go Hone though.
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    The Hone cranks are more expensive by atleast 30 dollars. When purchased set up as singlespeed crankset with a quality bashring, the evolves are still cheaper. The Hone cranks aren't even offered set up for ss. If you want, buy the evolve xc cranks set up as a triple, then ebay the rings and buy a ss ring (or use one that you have).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbrennan
    The Hone cranks are more expensive by atleast 30 dollars. When purchased set up as singlespeed crankset with a quality bashring, the evolves are still cheaper. The Hone cranks aren't even offered set up for ss. If you want, buy the evolve xc cranks set up as a triple, then ebay the rings and buy a ss ring (or use one that you have).
    Look around there are better deals than MSRP (I got mine for 79 EUR at a store over here)

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    just be aware that by hunting for less than MSRP you may also be giving up free install and check-ups by people who know what they are doing. I still like the raceface cranks for the money. Made by race face in canada, if i'm not mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbrennan
    just be aware that by hunting for less than MSRP you may also be giving up free install and check-ups by people who know what they are doing. I still like the raceface cranks for the money. Made by race face in canada, if i'm not mistaken.
    You are right about that... if you need a mechanic your LBS might be the best way to go... for the rest of us mailorder or the webLBS (as some of the sellers on the board are ) is fine..

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    Just remember the Hones (and the XC's if i'm not mistaken) are exterior bearings that sit 75.5mm apart on the bottom bracket which you would need a special tool to fit if you didnt want to mess up the outside. I'm sure there will be as many people telling you that you can use a fat old pair of pliers but i wouldn't, and spent the money (10) on the correct tool. If they're staying put you might want the LBS to do it for you anyway. I like to remove them every once in a while clean and re-lube.

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    As far as other contenders, the Truvative stylos are extremely similar to the race face evolve cranks. I like the race face cranks cause of the extra machining. I'm not sure if this makes them lighter/ stiffer but the CNC logo is pretty bad ass if you ask me. The evolve cranks have a nice I-beam profile and feel stiff under foot. I cant speak personally about any truvativ cranks.

    As far as purchasing the new outboard bearing bottom bracket tool, it might not be necessary. The bearings are sealed and aren't really servicible. The cranks themselves can be removed without any sort of crank puller. This makes for easy cleaning and allows you to relube the interface between the bearing cup and the cranks as well as the spindle. The tool is pretty low-tech so a more affordable off-brand edition is probably not a bad idea.

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    hi nbrennan,
    the cranks themselves can indeed be pulled without a dedicated tool - they just remove with a good tug. I was refering to the bearing cups on both sides - which need a kind of splined spanner in order to tighten and remove them. It would be possible to use another tool like some wide mouthed grips but you would run the risk of ruining the outside of the cups. Although you are right - i did go for a cheaper non park tool version.

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    my point was just that the cups are not really user-serviceable, so the splined tool isn't imperative. The tool i have isn't a completely closed circle of splines, so you can tighten the cups without removing the crank arms.

    I think its ultimately an aesthetic call, you'll probably be happy with whatever you get as long as you like the way it looks on your bike. I would say steer away from any DH/FR crankset if your looking for something less heavy-duty. External bearing cranksets are great for single speeds because of the extra bb stiffness and ease of chainline adjustment, so I would say go with a set in that design. As far as I can tell its not hype. Just a nice simple design that makes a lot of sense.

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