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    Post your Steel WW SS's

    I know that the words steel and weight weenie don't typically go together but I'd like to see some pics of your light weight steel SS's. Think I'm going to build one up over the winter. Post them up!

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    im thinking about going WW with my steel XXIX. carbon for and bars will be the first additions. Saving the wheels for last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diesel
    im thinking about going WW with my steel XXIX. carbon for and bars will be the first additions. Saving the wheels for last.

    Get the wheels first! Wheels are one of the biggest upgrades you could make and it's all rotational weight you can save.

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    Some folks on this board use to call that "turd polishing". I liked my XXIX, but the EBB slipped constantly.
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    This my Bontrager conversion I did a few years back; <a href="http://onespeedbiker.blogspot.com/2008/11/1993-bontrager-single-speed-conversion.html"> TheOneSpeedBiker </a> The blog has more pictures

    The Frame is a 1993 ish Race Lite with Surly Sub11 dropouts and a Rocklobster fork.

    Brakes- Dia Comp cantilevers OEM
    Levers- Suntour OEM
    Headset- 1" Cane Creek S2
    Wheels- Surly hubs/ Sun MACH IV rims
    Tires- Hutchinson Pythons 2.3 front/ 2.1 rear
    Handlebar- Bontrager Racelite OEM
    Grips- ESI
    Barends- Bontarger Racelite
    Seatpost- Titec/Bontarger carbon
    Stem- 1" Ibis Ti
    Saddle- Sette Race Ti
    BB- FSA Ti
    Cranks- Bontrager
    Pedals- Time ATAC Titan Carbon
    Water Bottle Cage- King Ti
    Misc Ti bolts and QR front axle; rear tandem QR axle

    Final weight- 19.75 lbs
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    Cool. Makes me want to dig out my 1991 Zaskar frame and built it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowCat
    Cool. Makes me want to dig out my 1991 Zaskar frame and built it up!
    makes me want to quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnesia
    Get the wheels first! Wheels are one of the biggest upgrades you could make and it's all rotational weight you can save.
    But they are expensive! Im gonna have to save up some cash and wait until i can find a decent used set for sale. Im also scared to trash a nice wheelset and thats been holding me back from getting any carbon parts also. The bike has seen hell in less than a year and it has never left me stranded or been unridable due to a broken part. But, iv got the itch to upgrade and cash fow sucks these days so small steps will have to do.

    Mellow cat. Im torn between liking the ebb or not. Sometimes its awesome and sometimes it blows. If i set it right and it stays, it will stay untill i try to swap cogs or something. Im gonna try a carver soon though. The new 2010 XXIX is no longer set screw though. I wonder how it will do.

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    Just ordered an 09 Monocog Flight. I have a white set of Stan's ZTR 355's with ZTR hubs and I also have a rear 09 American Classic wheel. I'm thinking of selling the Stan's wheels and getting another AC front wheel and having the rear wheel built around a nice SS hub. Maybe a Truvativ Noir 1:1 crank, Juicy Ultimates or Formula R1's and Carbon bits everywhere else. I want to stick with the stock frame/fork. Should come out really nice I think.

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    Diesel,

    Have you taken your XXIX down and weighed the frame and fork? I did, they are both tanks. The fork was 3lbs If I remember correctly. Hell, you could lose a 1lb with a decent fork, but there aren't many non-suspension corrected 29'er forks out there to choose from. I switched my XXIX parts to a KM frame. I like the KM much, much better than the XXIX. Better fit for me, smoother ride, faster handling.
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    Lot's of great memories on that bike. Great fit for me, but harsh ride.
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    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=555547

    mine is 21.5lbs, the S&S couplers added about a pound to the frame weight but well worth it since I will be going to SSWC in New Zealand next year and wont have to pay a penny extra to take my bike with me.

    Some Formula R1s or Avid/SRAM XX brakes will drop some weight as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
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    mine is 21.5lbs, the S&S couplers added about a pound to the frame weight but well worth it since I will be going to SSWC in New Zealand next year and wont have to pay a penny extra to take my bike with me.

    Some Formula R1s or Avid/SRAM XX brakes will drop some weight as well
    Your gonna love NZ Scooter, Rotorua hosts some of the finest trails down this end of the world and its a place I visit 2-3 times a year. If you can make it to Taupo's Craters of the Moon, the trails there are a SS'ers dream too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    Just ordered an 09 Monocog Flight. I have a white set of Stan's ZTR 355's with ZTR hubs and I also have a rear 09 American Classic wheel. I'm thinking of selling the Stan's wheels and getting another AC front wheel and having the rear wheel built around a nice SS hub. Maybe a Truvativ Noir 1:1 crank, Juicy Ultimates or Formula R1's and Carbon bits everywhere else. I want to stick with the stock frame/fork. Should come out really nice I think.
    Plan sounds like a good one - the Flight is a stellar bike and the fork matches up very well.
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    What is considered a WW steel bike?
    My old Stumpjumper with a steel fork and V-brakes was 20.5 lbs without anything stupid, and my KM sits at 21.6 lbs. with an eXotic carbon fork and Juicy 5's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowCat
    Diesel,

    Have you taken your XXIX down and weighed the frame and fork? I did, they are both tanks. The fork was 3lbs If I remember correctly. Hell, you could lose a 1lb with a decent fork, but there aren't many non-suspension corrected 29'er forks out there to choose from. I switched my XXIX parts to a KM frame. I like the KM much, much better than the XXIX. Better fit for me, smoother ride, faster handling.

    There are many 26" rigid forks with the proper length and offset.

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    Older pic of my current ride. Vicious Cycles Monolith, Moots ti post, Thompson Masterpiece stem, CK headset, Vicious rigid fork, Mavic 817/CK hubs DT swiss triple butted spokes wheelset, XT hollow cranks, XTR hydr brakes, WTB ti seat and Easton Monkey carbon bars along with a few tidbits here and there....weighs in at just a shade under 19lbs
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    what weight is considered a "light" 26-inch SS mtb?

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    My wife's bike is a budget WW steel ride. Kona Unit 26", race-lite wheelset with ceramic coated rims, old lx v-brakes, answer carbon bar, etc... I'm guessing that at its lightest with the rigid fork it was around 23 lbs. Not bad for $600.

    Shown below a little heavier with the squish and heavy pedals.




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    Just a hair over 21 pounds which I'll take 'cause its an XL
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    Misfit lightness

    Just a hair over 19lbs.. even with the heavy Cane Creek bar ends that I love. Wheels are extremely light though 355's with revs/hopes. Love it, race it.



    EDIT: I lied, bathroom scales suck! Try 20.3lbs. on a real digi hanging type.
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    diSSent Fe, nice!

    I've got the AL version and want a light wheelset. I was planning on hope and arch. How are the 355's holding up and what is your weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_slacker
    diSSent Fe, nice!

    I've got the AL version and want a light wheelset. I was planning on hope and arch. How are the 355's holding up and what is your weight?
    355's are holdiing up great. Only 2 months of use though.. done a few races, one 5hr enduro, and it's rooty, rocky here, but no drops. saying that, Stans has a new wider/lighter 355 replacement coming for 2010. more like the race rim. better for tubeless.

    Running 20psi rear 19psi front and I'm only 138lbs during race season!!... this will probably be my full time race bike now... stupid fast!

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    Alot of sweet rides on here....that are superlite! I thought my 1x1 @ 24lbs wasn't bad but you guys hittin 20lbs and below seems crazy! Now I'm wondering what I can do to lighten the load....but I'm also afraid some of the lighter componentry, such as wheels, won't fare so well with my weight and some of the overly rooty trails I ride. I'm curious to know the average weight of the riders with these superlite rides?? I didn't think I was too hefty @ 180lbs or so but I see Sherwin states he's 138lbs during race season which is signifigantly less than me....would those 355's with Revs hold up to 40+ more lbs??

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    6' 1" 193lbs.....loves long walks on the beach and show tunes.

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    20 lbs. 3 oz. with the latest setup in the rocky picture. I'm now running a Raven in the back, 100mm 0 deg. stem and Easton bars.
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    I've got a Blizzard that comes in just under 24 lbs. Not as light as some of the bikes on here, but she's bombproof with a Vicious fork, Hadley/819 wheels, Truvativ Stylo cranks w/ bashguard, Thomson Elite post / Fizik saddle, FSA XC 140 stem, Answer taperwall risers, XTR hydro up front Avid SD7's in the rear, and big fat Oury grips. I ride the bike hard on rough terrain, and I weigh in at 180 lbs. Last year I broke a Gunnar steel frame and an On-One (Gunnar my fault, On-One cracked at a weld). I'm not independently wealthy, either. A wise man once said: Light, Strong, Cheap - pick two.

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    The Vassago and the Misfit are super nice looking!

    What bar were you running on the Vassago in the first 2 photos? Vector?

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    I was asking about the 355's vs arch because I'm 165 and going to build up a lightish ride myself. I was able to ride the bonty racelite's on some of the more rugged vegas terrain. Bootleg, cowboy trails, etc.... and besides a single broken spoke came out ok.

    I'm not morally opposed to a $700+ wheelset, I just don't want it to break. I think the 355's just might do ok with my weight and the relatively smooth trails here in tahoe.

    Quote Originally Posted by PutAwayWet
    I've got a Blizzard that comes in just under 24 lbs. Not as light as some of the bikes on here, but she's bombproof with a Vicious fork, Hadley/819 wheels, Truvativ Stylo cranks w/ bashguard, Thomson Elite post / Fizik saddle, FSA XC 140 stem, Answer taperwall risers, XTR hydro up front Avid SD7's in the rear, and big fat Oury grips. I ride the bike hard on rough terrain, and I weigh in at 180 lbs. Last year I broke a Gunnar steel frame and an On-One (Gunnar my fault, On-One cracked at a weld). I'm not independently wealthy, either. A wise man once said: Light, Strong, Cheap - pick two.

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    Ok, could you give me an example? I may have a need for one! I tried a Surly 1x1 fork, but my Rampage's wouldn't clear that well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    The Vassago and the Misfit are super nice looking!

    What bar were you running on the Vassago in the first 2 photos? Vector?
    Close... its a Syntace Duraflite. I still have it and like it but just wanted to try something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowCat
    Diesel,

    Have you taken your XXIX down and weighed the frame and fork? I did, they are both tanks. The fork was 3lbs If I remember correctly. Hell, you could lose a 1lb with a decent fork, but there aren't many non-suspension corrected 29'er forks out there to choose from. I switched my XXIX parts to a KM frame. I like the KM much, much better than the XXIX. Better fit for me, smoother ride, faster handling.
    Iv had it down to the frame and fork with bars and stem and it felt pretty light but i didnt weigh it. Ill be getting a white bros carbon fork soon so that should help the front end a bit. You can get it in 445mm and the stock fork is 440mm so it should be pretty close. Then maybe some lighter tires cause im currently running the stock WTB stout up front and an exiwolf on the rear. My frame is still pretty new and it doesnt feel all that heavy to me so ill ride it a while longer. I was suprised when it came in at 28lbs even. I haul ass on this thing and have left other 20lb SSers in the dust. Part of it is that i know my home extremely well. I did ride someones Vassago with a white bros suspension fork and i felt like i was on a race bike and he was running a taller gear than me.

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    I got a set of 355's laced to pro 2's with revos. Im 170ish and ride some techy trails, they are holding up great! no dents or wobbles after a year of riding.

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    c.19lbs and 12 years old

    1996/1997 (I forget) Bontrager racelite with Walt works rigid fork, original CK headset, smattering of old and new parts...at first glance it shouldn't be that light, but when you start with a sub 4lb frame and a light fork it's easy to stay under 20lbs.

    It scraped 20lb with big tires and a suspension fork.
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    big_slacker,

    Ive been riding 355's for 4 years now and have 2 sets of them, one set on a geared HT and the other on my SS. I weigh 185lbs ready to ride and my local trails are rough, rocky and fast. I raced one set for 2 seasons and only trued minor buckles every so often, this was mainly due to the I9 spokes working loose so no biggy. They are both laced to I9's and I can recommend them highly.

    I have a set of Arches on my Turner Sultan that I use for more AM style riding without any buckles so far and they have been going for 1.5 years now. 4ft drops are no problem. Although I would like some Flows for this bike but it doesnt seem neccessary as yet.
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    That Walt fork looks nice! The Redline just came in yesterday and I threw a few parts at it before I left for work. Weight is just under 21 pounds with current setup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    That Walt fork looks nice! The Redline just came in yesterday and I threw a few parts at it before I left for work. Weight is just under 21 pounds with current setup.

    That's amazing for a Redline w/ BB7's, a riser bar, and bar ends!

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    That IS amazing! What did I do wrong during my build?? How are all these 29er's weighing in 4+ lbs less than my 26er??!! Heavy frame? Wide rims? 2.4 meats? I gotta find out what it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrisw1
    That IS amazing! What did I do wrong during my build?? How are all these 29er's weighing in 4+ lbs less than my 26er??!! Heavy frame? Wide rims? 2.4 meats? I gotta find out what it is!
    With the extra diameter of 29" wheels, there's more air present between the spokes. That adds buoyancy to the bike under standard atmospheric conditions. Hence, although these 29ers do have more mass, when you put them on the scale the additional buoyant force results in a net weight savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2
    That's amazing for a Redline w/ BB7's, a riser bar, and bar ends!
    Yeah, that just doesn't seem to add up. Those FSA cranks are also quite heavy and the seatpost is too. Not that any one of those parts means too much, but the sum of all that on a heavy steel frame doesn't seem to add up to 21lbs. My Inbred (similar weight steel frame) with a steel fork and parts that are in the same weight range is in the upper 25lb range

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Yeah, that just doesn't seem to add up. Those FSA cranks are also quite heavy and the seatpost is too. Not that any one of those parts means too much, but the sum of all that on a heavy steel frame doesn't seem to add up to 21lbs. My Inbred (similar weight steel frame) with a steel fork and parts that are in the same weight range is in the upper 25lb range
    Ok, I just weighed myself on my Tanita scale and then weighed myself holding the bike and there was a difference of 24.2 pounds. I guess that my fish scale which I originally used is out of calibration. I thought that was too easy. All I changed was the stock wheels for Stan's ZTR 355's w/ZTR hubs, the Saddle and I figure I gained some weight back with the bar ends. Oh well, gives me something to shoot for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    Ok, I just weighed myself on my Tanita scale and then weighed myself holding the bike and there was a difference of 24.2 pounds. I guess that my fish scale which I originally used is out of calibration.
    No doubt the fish scale is calibrated for story telling
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    Thanks for the wheel input. I suspect I'll be going with the 355s then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G14it
    I got a set of 355's laced to pro 2's with revos. Im 170ish and ride some techy trails, they are holding up great! no dents or wobbles after a year of riding.
    Holy Crap that's good news for me.. those are the thinnest spokes I've ever saw... so I have been worried.

    Thanks!

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    Hey, that gives me an idea. If I weigh my steel Haro Werx SS on my Tanita body fat scale, I can find out how much fat is loading it up. Then I know how much weight I can expect it to lose while riding! Unfortunately, it has 26er wheels, so I don't benefit from the 29er bouyancy effect.

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    Why do you run so big rigid forks on your Bontragers. You dont need suspension corrected rigid forks on them. Just looks ugly.

    But you get 1 point for not going 29'ier roue!
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    Well here's post #2. I just added Stan's 355 650's to my SASS and went tubeless. Even with the 2 pound steel cranks (est) it weighed out @ 23.5 lbs.
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    I give you kudos because at least you have a normal fork.

    What is it with the bike world today... I have been away a couple of years.

    Are 29" wheels and tall rigid forks the new trend? If it is, that is one of the most ugly trends I have ever seen. Why not get a normal frame then and mount an old Mountain LX long cage derailleur as a chainstretcher if looks dont count instead of dealing out major cashish for custom frames looking weird?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erkan
    I give you kudos because at least you have a normal fork.

    What is it with the bike world today... I have been away a couple of years.

    Are 29" wheels and tall rigid forks the new trend? If it is, that is one of the most ugly trends I have ever seen. Why not get a normal frame then and mount an old Mountain LX long cage derailleur as a chainstretcher if looks dont count instead of dealing out major cashish for custom frames looking weird?
    As I previously posted, I had Paul at Rocklobster make me a rigid fork for an old Bonty Race Lite. You seem to assume that none of the Bontrager frames geometry was modified for front suspension. This is incorrect. Most early Race Lite's where sold sans a fork and you had a choice of a frame made for a suspended fork or not. Granted the shocks back then where in the 63-80mm range. The Race Light I ended up with, had an old Manitou EFC shock installed, so Paul made the fork 430mm (c to a); suspended corrected. This was a few mm long, but he took into account the steep seat tube of Bontragers, that caused one to overweight the front end. Bontys were known for their "quick steering", but their downhill manners were down right scary. I also own a 1998 Privateer with the same geometry (you can put them side by side). The original shock was a 63mm Judy with Keith's steeper crown . I replaced the shock with a Marzzochi Super Fly (80mm) and the bike steering really settled down and became my main ride until I had a Rocklobster made for me. Regardless, nothing is lost on suspension correction, even if it seems like overkill; especially on Bonty's, which was one of the first bikes to have suspension geometry. Might have something to do with Keith helping Paul Turner by designing the Rock Shox crown.
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    with mine, i think the fork looks overly long cos the frame's so small, the walt fork replaces a 1998 SID with an axle to crown of 430mm, the walt fork is 10mm shorter to take into account the monster sag on the 63mm travel fork. work's just great.
    of course it all depends how old your Bontrager is...pre 94 go for a shorter fork.
    i've got one inch, who needs more?

    (wanted small or medium 93 or earlier race lite, must have bonded TT cable guides)

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    very sweet bike bonty, are those stock aesthetics on that fork except for a-t-c? or did you help on that. need to get one myself.

    on a different note did you give up on the Racer X speen setup? i'm going to give the new speen version a try.

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    Not 100% sure what you mean stock aesthetics? I gave Walt axle to crown and offset, i believe he made it his normal way, which is with the legs set forward off the crown. It rides brilliantly and it's pretty light into the bargain.

    as for front mechs, (this is a single speed forum), i have switched to a Campag record carbon and rotated the cable arm so it works as a top pull. Took some setting up, but now works great
    i've got one inch, who needs more?

    (wanted small or medium 93 or earlier race lite, must have bonded TT cable guides)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95bonty
    Not 100% sure what you mean stock aesthetics? I gave Walt axle to crown and offset, i believe he made it his normal way, which is with the legs set forward off the crown. It rides brilliantly and it's pretty light into the bargain.
    the legs set forward off the crown part is what I wanted to know. love the tapered legs and the tiny dropouts

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    a hair over 20lbs with 2.4/2.25's, 710 alumn bar, bar ends and a couch seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erkan
    I give you kudos because at least you have a normal fork.

    What is it with the bike world today... I have been away a couple of years.

    Are 29" wheels and tall rigid forks the new trend? If it is, that is one of the most ugly trends I have ever seen. Why not get a normal frame then and mount an old Mountain LX long cage derailleur as a chainstretcher if looks dont count instead of dealing out major cashish for custom frames looking weird?
    every decade has its own definition of good looks

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    @95bonty: that bonty is the *ish!
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    I still kick myself for not buying a El Mariachi LE frameset when they were on blow out! Nice bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Yeah, that just doesn't seem to add up. Those FSA cranks are also quite heavy and the seatpost is too. Not that any one of those parts means too much, but the sum of all that on a heavy steel frame doesn't seem to add up to 21lbs. My Inbred (similar weight steel frame) with a steel fork and parts that are in the same weight range is in the upper 25lb range
    That's a Monocog Flight - so the frame will be lighter than a regular Monocog, but 21 pounds seems pretty damned light. Unless the wheels are different from stock. I see a heavy saddle laying on the couch - so he's got that going for him in terms of weight savings.

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    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/33936975@N00/4087026017/" title="Fall Classic SJ2 by normbilt, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2483/4087026017_26b99b796f_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Fall Classic SJ2" /></a>

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    Soulrider, the monolythe is amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    Ok, I just weighed myself on my Tanita scale and then weighed myself holding the bike and there was a difference of 24.2 pounds. I guess that my fish scale which I originally used is out of calibration. I thought that was too easy. All I changed was the stock wheels for Stan's ZTR 355's w/ZTR hubs, the Saddle and I figure I gained some weight back with the bar ends. Oh well, gives me something to shoot for.
    My 15" Monocog Flight 29 weighed 26.3# at the LBS with pedals. Stock.

    I wondered what parts would lower the weight a measurable amount... Wheels were on my list (mostly for higher engagement hubs)
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    and you seem to be living life as if it was 2 decades ago.

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    Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traffic002
    My 15" Monocog Flight 29 weighed 26.3# at the LBS with pedals. Stock.

    I wondered what parts would lower the weight a measurable amount... Wheels were on my list (mostly for higher engagement hubs)
    Wheels are always the big one. You can not only shave off weight, its rotating weight which makes the bike feel lighter and snappier on the trail. Brake rotors if you've got discs are another notable thing to lighten, and they're pretty cheap.

    Everything else is incremental. Carbon seatpost, bars and a lighter saddle are next, and if you're shopping the sales (jenson has easton carbon stuff on sale right now!) you can do this for a few hundred $$. At this point you're under 25lbs and have a pretty nice 29er for not a lot of dough. Now its up to you to decide if you want to spend a whole bunch more money to drop further $$. The lighter brakes are spendy, carbon forks are spendy, nice and light cranks, BB, etc.....

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    My Bianchi at 21 lbs. With a super crap seatpost.


    My IF at 17.5 lbs.

    Both steel and I didn't go with the lightest stuff. Just durable stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrouSS
    My Bianchi at 21 lbs. With a super crap seatpost.


    My IF at 17.5 lbs.

    Both steel and I didn't go with the lightest stuff. Just durable stuff.
    I was wondering why you went with canti brakes, what are the advantages? do V's not work right?
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    Cantis work with road levers. And the wide cantis clear mud much better than low-pro cantis or v's.

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    That Indy Fab is goregeous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProLink
    20 lbs. 3 oz. with the latest setup in the rocky picture. I'm now running a Raven in the back, 100mm 0 deg. stem and Easton bars.
    That is a nice bicycle. I'm just curious as to what spokes you used on those wheels.

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    Spot Brand

    Here's my Spot at 22.5Lbs.
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    1997 Mongoose IBOC Pro SX SS Conversion

    This is my old Mongoose. I hadn't ridden it for a few years (ever since i got a FS bike) so i thought i would convert it to a singlespeed and changed to a shorter stem and riser bar and picked up a used Minute off of Ebay to replace the old Judy.

    I think it weighs about 22-23lbs (according to my bathroom scales)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjonesin420
    This is my old Mongoose. I hadn't ridden it for a few years (ever since i got a FS bike) so i thought i would convert it to a singlespeed and changed to a shorter stem and riser bar and picked up a used Minute off of Ebay to replace the old Judy.

    I think it weighs about 22-23lbs (according to my bathroom scales)
    what is the frame material ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuck_chorris
    what is the frame material ?

    Its triple butted chromoly steel. The deraileur hanger says Breezer on it so i think it is was made by Breezer for Mongoose. It was one of the last years before Mongoose started selling in Walmart.

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