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    nyone running a ss 650 yet?

    650b looks like a nice setup anyone running one?

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    I love mine. Last 3 bikes were 29er's, but I never felt fully comfortable with the big hoops. Maybe it was my height (5'10") maybe my short legs, but I always felt like my CG was too high. So I converted an old Ventana, and perfection occurred.

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    i cant wait to ride mine!

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    SASS 650b is my go to bike.
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    I've always wanted to get a Surly 1x1 and go 650b. The only negative is tire selection sucks.

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    This is my only bike for the last 7 months. I was hesitant to post because I like this frame so much and they're not making them anymore! All of the Bianchis from that period work well with 650b rims/tires. I need to get my hands on an SASS.

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    Also, I've run into other guys on 650b SS on the trails around here, so it must be catching on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJP
    This is my only bike for the last 7 months. I was hesitant to post because I like this frame so much and they're not making them anymore! All of the Bianchis from that period work well with 650b rims/tires. I need to get my hands on an SASS.

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    Also, I've run into other guys on 650b SS on the trails around here, so it must be catching on.

    I really want to get ahold of one of these frame/forks I do like this frame a lot. There is a SASS for sale in my area I have thought about also.
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    A thread with 650b, Bianchi's? I'm in with MUSS.


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    I have one.

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    The 1x1 is nice for 650b conversion. Don't expect a night/day change in the characteristics of the bike though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frs1661
    The 1x1 is nice for 650b conversion. Don't expect a night/day change in the characteristics of the bike though.
    From 26 to 650b? I disagree. I suppose that is more relevant to your style of riding but speaking as far as myself and several others who have upgraded from 26 to 650b it is night and day in comparison for handling, cornering, resistance, and further absorption of bumpage (especially on rigid).

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    To be fair, I did go from a skinny-rim/big-tire 26" combo (717s with 2.4" mountain kings) to big-rim/big-tire 650b (Blunt with the Neo)... so the effective change in outer tire diameter was very small in my case. Less than 1/2" by my ruler. The main advantage for me has been a flatter tread profile (i.e. better grip) in 650b while retaining a large tread diameter.

    I liked it enough to build up a P35 rear wheel, I'm just saying it was nothing super dramatic for me.
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    I'm single speeding a dual 650b bike as of last night. Went for a ride with the bike set up 1x9 - and a trailside twig desided it wanted to play with my rear derailleur. In the battle of twig vs. SRAM rear derailleur...............Twig wins!



    Nursed the bike back home in sort of jury rigged ss config and then proceeded to break it down and set it up 32:21T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frs1661
    The 1x1 is nice for 650b conversion. Don't expect a night/day change in the characteristics of the bike though.
    One of my favorite "strong grasp of the obvious" lines came from a bike magazine that described the riding characteristics of a 650B as half way between a 26 and 29er; ya think! I would add however that if you are riding rigid, a big tubless tire up front will make at least dusk/day change.
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    I HAD a 650B Blackbuck. I preferred it with a 29er wheel in front because it was rigid (like most of the bikes on here). I really liked that bike. The only reason I sold it was because I thought I might need a sussy fork some day it it couldn't take one.

    @p_nut - 650B tire selection may suck, but I loved the Neo-Moto's enough that it's all I'd ever wish for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcaz
    I love mine. Last 3 bikes were 29er's, but I never felt fully comfortable with the big hoops. Maybe it was my height (5'10") maybe my short legs, but I always felt like my CG was too high. So I converted an old Ventana, and perfection occurred.
    I may be wrong but I'd suspect that the CG on a well designed 29er frame would actually be lower than the CG of a 26" wheel frame with 650b wheels stuffed in it. The bigger wheels on a 29er frame don't necessarily translate into a higher BB, most adjust the BB drop dimension accordingly to keep it in the "normal" range. But putting 650b wheels on a frame designed for 26" wheels will definitely raise the BB height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stahr_Nut
    I may be wrong but I'd suspect that the CG on a well designed 29er frame would actually be lower than the CG of a 26" wheel frame with 650b wheels stuffed in it. The bigger wheels on a 29er frame don't necessarily translate into a higher BB, most adjust the BB drop dimension accordingly to keep it in the "normal" range. But putting 650b wheels on a frame designed for 26" wheels will definitely raise the BB height.
    You are NOT wrong in any way IMO. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it either.

    Okay, I'll shut up now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frs1661
    To be fair, I did go from a skinny-rim/big-tire 26" combo (717s with 2.4" mountain kings) to big-rim/big-tire 650b (Blunt with the Neo)... so the effective change in outer tire diameter was very small in my case. Less than 1/2" by my ruler. The main advantage for me has been a flatter tread profile (i.e. better grip) in 650b while retaining a large tread diameter.

    I liked it enough to build up a P35 rear wheel, I'm just saying it was nothing super dramatic for me.
    Frs1661 – I’m with you, I went from a 26” DT 4.2D rim w/ 2.3” ExiWolf the size comparison to a 650b depending on rim/tire can be minimum. I have some photos of the comparison of wheel heights and widths in another thread on the 650b section “Problems with WTB rim and tires” (http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=621125). My buddy Tim’s wheel 650b Alex XD Lite w/ IRD Fire XC 2.0 tire was very close in size to my 26” wheel. However, difference between his 650b Alex wheel and my new 650b WTB Laserdisk w/ 2.2 Wolvs was notable (thus could revert back to increased size from the 26” wheel). How much exactly, I can’t recall prob. Greater than ” though. I went to the wider rim and tire on purpose because I wanted to maximize the upgrade. Obviously, if I had went to something more like his Alex wheel, the differences would have been less (dusk to day, maybe ).

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    I was riding an SE Stout with 650b's and loved it. They I put a 29'er wheel in the front and that worked pretty well with the front rolling over stuff and the rear wheel accelerating easily. Now I am on a tricked out SS Haro Beasley with 650b's front and rear. I like it the best. 26" wheels are for beach cruisers now.

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