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    New Trailbike SS - What Is Out There?

    I am thinking about selling my Turner 5-Spot and Gunnar Ruffian and getting a new SS in exchange as my one and only bike. Although I love the Turner, since getting the SS I have used it only twice in 7 months. I like the Ruffian, but in terms of geometry, it is perhaps too XC oriented for my tastes. I am looking for a more relaxed geometry, closer to the 5-Spot, but in a single speed. I can't seem to find one out there. Here is what I am looking for:

    Single speed specific frame with trail bike like geometry.
    Burly frame (I am 200 lbs and ride hard over lots of rocks and such), preferably steel over Aluminum. Titanium sounds nice, but is expensive.
    Disc brake compatable.
    Built for 120 mm of travel - yes I will be adding a squishy fork.

    What is out there?
    Is it a bad idea to get rid of the Turner to get a SS as my only ride? 90% of what I ride, a SS will do, but there are a few times that a FS would be nice.
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    Chameleon is a good choice. Aluminum instead of steel though. You can run up to a 153mm fork and it is defintiely burly. Better yet if this is going to be your one and only bike have a custom steel frame built up from someone like Walt Works.

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    hmmm

    check out the Surly Instigator

    Vertical dropouts though so you may need to run a tensioner

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    Am looking to build exactly the same thing meself.

    I bought myself one of those Inbred frames Jenson was clearing out, that can take a 5" fork.

    I have a couple forks I can throw on the front, but am leaning towards 5" Sherman Flick I have lying around. Hopefully it will be relaxed geometry without being too relaxed.

    I like the steel frame, and I like the fact that the Inbred has been tweaked to accomodate longer travel forks.

    But it'll be some months before I can ride it and give a review ...

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    I second the WaltWorks suggestion. Walt makes a great bike, and you can get exactly what you want. The only downside is the wait.

    I have both a SS (a waltworks) and a FS. I find that I ride the SS probably 80% of the time, but it is still fun to have the FS around. It's always nice to have a change of pace. So you might want to think about it for a while before you give up a great bike like that Turner.

    It continues to amaze me how many times you see threads like this. People who went SS and suddenly realize that their FS isn't getting much use anymore. It happened to you, it happened to me. It apparently happens to > 50% of SSers out there.

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    Quiring cycles custom 29er SS set up for a 5" travel White Bros fork

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    I just got a used Spicer that has basically what you are talking about. More gussets than a Heckler, and Steel, EBB makes it a great hardtail singlespeed. I've got a 120mm fork on it now. It just loves rocky, rough stuff, and takes rollers and drops with glee.

    Selling the Turner: Only if you need the money/space. There's no such thing as too many bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    I am thinking about selling my Turner 5-Spot and Gunnar Ruffian and getting a new SS in exchange as my one and only bike. Although I love the Turner, since getting the SS I have used it only twice in 7 months. I like the Ruffian, but in terms of geometry, it is perhaps too XC oriented for my tastes. I am looking for a more relaxed geometry, closer to the 5-Spot, but in a single speed. I can't seem to find one out there. Here is what I am looking for:

    Single speed specific frame with trail bike like geometry.
    Burly frame (I am 200 lbs and ride hard over lots of rocks and such), preferably steel over Aluminum. Titanium sounds nice, but is expensive.
    Disc brake compatable.
    Built for 120 mm of travel - yes I will be adding a squishy fork.

    What is out there?
    Is it a bad idea to get rid of the Turner to get a SS as my only ride? 90% of what I ride, a SS will do, but there are a few times that a FS would be nice.

    Sell the bikes and use that money to get some stuff to start brazing your own frames..it can be done and if you get a couple other like minded people involved your cash output will be minimal.
    Then you can build whatever you want and it will be much less expensive than you could imagine.
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    Im not kidding, my friend Gabe and i decided about a year ago to just jump into it and between the two of us we have done 13 frames for ourselves and now have 2 to build for other folks.
    So wouldnt it be cool for a group of folks to begin a "homebuilt" groundswell...
    sorry for being off topic but it is something to consider....
    id be glad to give you more info...
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    It's an addiction.......

    I have always been a bike geek..........So Thad and I were ridding one day out here in Asheville, NC when I said that I was thinking of chopping up a few frames to build something unique. Well one thing led to another and 13 frames latter we build bikes to suit our tastes. If you have the passion you can create anything you whant. I am currently building myself a long travel hardtail single speed with disk brakes, traditional 69HT, 73ST geometry and a perfectly sized ridding position built to my specs.......
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    I am sure Independent Fabrications could hook you up. What about Chromag? www.chromagbikes.com I think this is right up your alley...

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    Inbred 456, Evil Sovereign.

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    I'd look at the Kona Cowan, also aluminum, but burly as hell- DJ/FR geometry, can handle a long travel fork, has horiz. dropouts for SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    Here is what I am looking for:

    Single speed specific frame with trail bike like geometry.
    Burly frame (I am 200 lbs and ride hard over lots of rocks and such), preferably steel over Aluminum. Titanium sounds nice, but is expensive.
    Disc brake compatable.
    Built for 120 mm of travel - yes I will be adding a squishy fork.

    What is out there?
    The Curtis XC is one of my dream bikes. Custom top tube length, seat tube length, and head angle. I bet they'd work with you to come up with exactly what you're looking for. At current exchange rates, you're looking at about $1,050-1,100, depending on finish.

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    On-one Inbred 29er...$990 rigid, about 1200 witlh a squishy fork. Loving mine.
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    How about a .243 Racing Frame from Canada.

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    How 'bout the Kona "A"?
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    Sovereign

    I would strongly consider the Evil Sovereign mentioned earlier. It was built as an all around trail bike / park bike. It has a long enough seat tube to get decent saddle height in my opinion (16"), but is still small enough and slack enough to handle like that fun bike that you have been dreaming about for so long. Plus, it's Reynold's 853.

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    seems silly

    it seems silly to me that people will spend so much more money for a SS specific frame when the ENO is available. Get yourself a good geared Trail bike frame for cheap (i.e. the Banshee Scorrocco comes to mind. $550? at speedgoat) and pick up an eno hub. Then move the parts from your gunnar over to the scirocco.

    you should be able to recoup most of the cost of that conversion selling your gunnar. (assuming it is in good condition). Plus you will have a frame that is compatible with gears for when I develop my new 3 speed drivetrain.

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    Banshee Scirocco

    yeah you'll have to use a tensioner, but this bike is awesome... seen frames on ebay pretty cheap, where i got mine. run a big fork, super burley, not too heavy

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    I got one of those at home

    I actually own exactly what you are talking about. Here is the setup:

    Large Surly Instigator Frame (in heinous orange, of course)
    Marzocchi All Mountain 3
    Atom Trailpimps with a Woodman singlespeed rear hub
    Azonic bars and stem
    Truvativ Hussefelt Cranks
    Avid Mech Disks
    Steel 32 T ring up front, Steel 18 T ring in the back
    Surly Chain tensioner

    Lets just say that my Giant AC has sat in the garage save for a couple of rides for the last six months. This is a great singlespeed trailbike setup and with a large Instigator frame and a SRAM chain the spacing is almost perfect and the chain tensioner doesn't even have to do a whole lot. I would also advocate going with a steel hardtail. Steel gives a bit of compliance but feels solid as a rock when rattling down the trail. No more tinny aluminum feeling.

    Needless to say, I recommend the Instigator. Great bike, great trailriding geometry. I would also recommend a Marzocchi All Mountain on the front. I have had this bike built up with a 03 Z1 FR (too heavy), a Manitou Black Elite (too flexy) and the All Mountain (just right). The Instigator works great with 130mm up front.

    Good luck with building your new rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    I am thinking about selling my Turner 5-Spot and Gunnar Ruffian and getting a new SS in exchange as my one and only bike. Although I love the Turner, since getting the SS I have used it only twice in 7 months. I like the Ruffian, but in terms of geometry, it is perhaps too XC oriented for my tastes. I am looking for a more relaxed geometry, closer to the 5-Spot, but in a single speed. I can't seem to find one out there. Here is what I am looking for:

    Single speed specific frame with trail bike like geometry.
    Burly frame (I am 200 lbs and ride hard over lots of rocks and such), preferably steel over Aluminum. Titanium sounds nice, but is expensive.
    Disc brake compatable.
    Built for 120 mm of travel - yes I will be adding a squishy fork.

    What is out there?
    Is it a bad idea to get rid of the Turner to get a SS as my only ride? 90% of what I ride, a SS will do, but there are a few times that a FS would be nice.
    I always thought that Azonic steelhead cromo frame would make a burly SS. It's always on sale for around $150 to $200. Frame weighs either 6 or 7lbs. Definitely in the same weight range as other steel frame being mentioned on this thread. Another good choice would be a '06 Monocog with 135mm rear dropout. I own a '04 monocog and this thing is built tough.

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    monocog

    I have heard the Monocog has garbage components. Thats how they can sell it so cheap. However, I will second that those frames are darn tough. I have seen people do some decent drops on those...

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