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    New Surly 1x1 and gnome porn

    Yes, I know you've seen probably hundreds of 1x1s, but I just had to post some pics of my new 1x1, which I have dubbed "Edna Mae." Picked it up from a buddy who wanted a smaller frame, and my 19.5" SISS has always felt a tad too small. Specs:

    20" Surly 1x1 frame
    Fox Float 100 RLC fork
    Spot rear disc hub
    Chris King headset
    WTB front disc hub and WTB disc rims
    Thomson stem and post
    Selle Italia Flite Gel saddle
    TruVativ Stylo SS 180mm cranks
    Time ATAC pedals
    WTB MutanoRaptor 2.14 front tire
    Panaracer Fire XC rear (soon to be replaced with a 2.3 Conti Vertical Pro)
    Avid Mechanical disc brakes and Avid levers
    Race Face riser bar
    Salsa pepperjack grips

    I cannibalized my SISS for most of the parts, and swapped some parts (stem, saddle, post, and bar) from my Superlight. (Anybody want to buy a 19.5" SISS frame, fork and post? Send me a PM!!) Not sure I'll keep the Float on it, but I'd definitely have to go up in tire size up front to run her rigid. The frame seems huge - 21.5" center to top, 24" effective top tube, but I think it will fit me pretty well with a 120mm stem. I haven't had a chance to ride Edna Mae yet, but I hope to change that today!
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    Sweet gnome!

    Oh, and nice bike too.

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    That gnome kinda creeps me out! haha, anyhow, sweet 1x1! When I got mine I didn't think I'd like white bikes, but now I think they look so good.

    I'd always kinda thought Surly's ran small in the top tube? Do you not agree? I'm riding a 22 inch frame with a 130mm, 5degree stem. I've got a 120 stem to try out, but I feel really comfortable as it is so I'll probably just leave it alone. I guess it also matters I'm 6'2" and wear a 35 inch sleeve. I'm running mine rigid right now with a 2.4 mutano raptor up front and a geax sedona 2.25 out back. With the mutano set at about 20-25psi I don't even miss suspension that much! anyhow, again congrats on your sweet new surly!

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    Poo gnome

    Quote Originally Posted by TACSTS
    That gnome kinda creeps me out! haha, anyhow, sweet 1x1! When I got mine I didn't think I'd like white bikes, but now I think they look so good.

    I'd always kinda thought Surly's ran small in the top tube? Do you not agree? I'm riding a 22 inch frame with a 130mm, 5degree stem. I've got a 120 stem to try out, but I feel really comfortable as it is so I'll probably just leave it alone. I guess it also matters I'm 6'2" and wear a 35 inch sleeve. I'm running mine rigid right now with a 2.4 mutano raptor up front and a geax sedona 2.25 out back. With the mutano set at about 20-25psi I don't even miss suspension that much! anyhow, again congrats on your sweet new surly!
    The gnome was an estate sale special. I like the fact that he looks like he's holding a pile of poo. My Superlight is also white - never thought I'd own a white bike, and now I have two of them.

    Yes, for as loooooooooooooong as the 1x1's seat tube is, the top tube is kind of short. My SISS had a 19.5" c-t seat tube, with a 23.5 effective top tube. The large (20") 1x1 is 21.5" c-t on the seat tube, with a 24" effective top tube. So, while the seat tube on the 1x1 is 2" longer than the SISS, the top tube is only about .5" longer. However, on the SISS, I was running a 130, 5 degree stem, but I always felt too far over the front. With the 120, 5 degree stem on the Surly, I'll have about the same extension from the saddle to bar, but I'll be seated a little further back, all the better to get power/weight to the back wheel. I'm just over 6 feet tall with a 34.5" sleeve, so the large fits me just right. I ran a 2.4 Mutano when I had the rigid fork on my SISS, but since putting the Float on, I thought I'd run a little smaller tire set, mostly to keep the weight down. One thing the Surly isn't is light!

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    The tension is rising

    What kinda tensioners are those and did you have to modify them to fit the track ends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijridoo
    What kinda tensioners are those and did you have to modify them to fit the track ends?
    They look like Redline, and if they are, you don't have to modify them. However, I cut off the front hole because I didn't need it. Nice tugs; you don't need a teensy allen for them plus the one bolt self-centers in the track ends.

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    Spot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dijridoo
    What kinda tensioners are those and did you have to modify them to fit the track ends?
    Those are the chain tugs that came stock on my SISS. The rear hub is a Spot, so I'm assuming the chain tugs are too. The only "modification" I had to make to use those tugs on the 1x1 was to move the axle bolt to the second (furthest back) hole - otherwise, they fit perfectly in the Surly track dropouts.

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    nice bike!

    my 19.5" DiSS also seems just a tiny bit too small (even with a 410 thomson post). glad to hear your thoughts on fit and whatnot... just confirms that i need (really, mrs. eSSq) another new ss frame, and that it should be a white 20" surly!


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    Ms. Earthpig

    Quote Originally Posted by eSSq
    my 19.5" DiSS also seems just a tiny bit too small (even with a 410 thomson post). glad to hear your thoughts on fit and whatnot... just confirms that i need (really, mrs. eSSq) another new ss frame, and that it should be a white 20" surly!


    I hear ya - this is the first frame I've owned since way back in the stone ages of mountain biking in the 80's that I DON'T need to use a 410mm post! Finally - a frame built for someone who is 6'1"!!!
    Mrs. Earthpig allowed this purchase ONLY because it was a screaming deal ($275 for the frame/fork and a swap on the stem)!

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    What type of drop out tugs do you have in there?

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    SISS tugs

    Quote Originally Posted by iskipowder21
    What type of drop out tugs do you have in there?
    Those are the stock chain tugs from my SISS. Not sure who makes them, but they fit the 1x1 dropouts perfectly.

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    Good job! First ride!

    So, I took Edna Mae for her maiden voyage tonight - lots of climbing, combined with some fast-twisty and some technical singletrack downhill. First impressions - it's so nice to have a frame that fits!! Makes me wish I'd gotten the XL Superlight instead of the large. It feels very solid, albeit heavy. I can definitely feel a weight penalty over the SISS, and that was by no means a "lighteight" frame. Also, in some climbing sections where I would have been out of the saddle on the SISS, I was able to stay down in the saddle in the 1x1. Downhill is where this frame REALLY shines. It was my first ride, yet she handled the downhills like an old friend - very stable and very predictable. The one thing I most definitely need is a better rear tire, but that will come soon. All in all, I have to say I'm quite pleased!

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    nice yard

    i refuse to look at another bike shot unless it's in a cobwebbed dungeon. underwater. on fire. at night.

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    is it really that much heavier than the SiSS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    I can definitely feel a weight penalty over the SISS, and that was by no means a "lightweight" frame.
    i thought the large surly was only like 5 lbs... was the SiSS 4.5 lbs or so?

    if so, the difference will probably fade after a few rides. i'm sure my chameleon weighs 2 lbs (maybe more) than my DiSS, but after the first couple rides i don't think i really notice the difference anymore.

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    Maybe 1 lb difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by eSSq
    i thought the large surly was only like 5 lbs... was the SiSS 4.5 lbs or so?

    if so, the difference will probably fade after a few rides. i'm sure my chameleon weighs 2 lbs (maybe more) than my DiSS, but after the first couple rides i don't think i really notice the difference anymore.
    I think the 20" 1x1 is closer to 5.5 lbs, but don't quote me on that. I think, however, I'm going to put the stock rigid fork on it and take that Float off. That will save me about 1.5 lbs. I ran my SISS rigid all last year and I frankly miss that feeling. If I need suspension, then I'll ride my double boinger. Rigid just seems to go with singlespeeding - I feel like such a cheater with a suspension fork on it!

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    Just couldn't leave well enough alone...

    One ride with the suspension fork was enough to convince me to go back to singlespeeding rigid. Using a suspension fork on a single just feels, well, wrong. After that first ride, I put the stock rigid fork on and my WTB Mutano 2.4 tires. All I can say now is I can't believe how fantastic this bike rides. One ride with the rigid fork and fat tires and I replaced the 20 tooth freewheel with an 18. Then, one ride on the 1x1 with 32x18 gearing and I signed up for the singlespeed class for a race this weekend. Haven't raced in 3 years and have never raced single, but what the heck. This bike deserves it. Hands down, this is the best fitting, best handling bike I've ever owned! Viva Surly!!!
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    Nice bike! ..Hey I think the gnome is trying to steal your ride...

    Gnomes freak me out too!

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