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    Modern FS single speeds?

    Who makes a modern FS single speedable frame (besides Lenz, if they're considered modern)?

    I'm talking about a good suspension design with possibly even Boost spacing and some sort of chain tensioning method? I won't disqualify pressfit BBs, but I'd prefer threaded. Anyone? Am I the only person out here who would like to see something like this?

    Yes, yes, I love my steel hardtail, but sometimes on long rides, my back starts to hurt (old injuries) long before I feel like calling it quits. I've noticed on my geared FS bike, I can go a lot further on the same trails before my back starts to bother me.

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    what's that i hear?


    oh, crickets.
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    The dodo bird is extinct. You sight one let us all know cause i want one too.

    Just use a short cage clutched deraileur on a good platform like a giant anthem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneDetroitCity View Post
    The dodo bird is extinct. You sight one let us all know cause i want one too.

    Just use a short cage clutched deraileur on a good platform like a giant anthem.

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    My geared FS is an Anthem 29er. I'm a little frustrated with that, as it keeps breaking. I'm on my third frame. Otherwise, yeah, I like the way it rides. But I don't jump it, huck it, or generally abuse it. My SS gets ridden harder.

    As far as it goes, I'm not actually above designing a bike that suits my needs. I've got enough background to manage it, and know enough talented fabricators to get it done. I suppose the question all boils down to one thing. How much is it worth?

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    So the real question should be, who makes a good modern full suspension frame. Any geared bike can be made into single speed with a simple chain tensioner and single speed cog kit.
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    "Modern" isn't always all it's cracked up to be.

    Begging to be ridden hard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    "Modern" isn't always all it's cracked up to be.

    Begging to be ridden hard...

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    That's sick looking. Is that steel? I'm guessing this isn't made any more?

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    That's a Wraith, custom. There is a lovely fatty pic or 2 floating around on here as well. Ask slap for contact info.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    That's sick looking. Is that steel? I'm guessing this isn't made any more?
    wraith is custom. i think they have a site, wraithbicycles.com.

    i look at his facebook page here and there, he's got some interesting stuff, like a fatbike suspension fork that uses a rear shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    "Modern" isn't always all it's cracked up to be.

    Begging to be ridden hard...

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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again; I would do BAD things to own one of those!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    "Modern" isn't always all it's cracked up to be.

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    Holy sh.. crap. It DOES exist. that's a pretty trick piece of engineering right there. sweet bike.
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    Understood. That is one sick bike. Slaphead is that yours?

    Not sure that boost hubs for SS even exist. I looked for one a while ago as I run a short stack of cogs and don't need a full-width freehub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    So the real question should be, who makes a good modern full suspension frame. Any geared bike can be made into single speed with a simple chain tensioner and single speed cog kit.
    Not quite true. Maybe on a 142 rear end the tensioner set up can be done fairly easily, but the best SS tensioner from YES is no longer made, and a 148 rear creates problems getting chainline correct. I raced my Ripley LS as a SS last summer once, set up with an alfine shimano tensioner, which was the only one I could find with enough inboard reach to get the chainline to work. It still was imperfect and would not be a good long term solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACC View Post
    ... and a 148 rear creates problems getting chainline correct.
    I'm not quite getting this. Wouldn't a tensioner like the surly singulator allow a wide variation of chainline? I could see it if you're not using a boost crankset, but should be fine otherwise.
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    A few that in know of make them, but they are custom. Blacksheep bikes makes a badass fs that he could make boost.
    There's also one (I think he could build custom boost) called Funk cycles. I rode the FS ti bike... It's awesome.

    For hubs, Onyx makes a boost ss specific. I went with Onyx boost regular in case I decide to add a cassette.

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    Wish that one was mine! Thing is sweet AF.
    My friend Daren builds a handful of bikes a year, I've been lucky enough to end up with a couple (a HT playbike and a 26 6" FS), and yes, steel. He gets a lot out of a single pivot. Check out the SS DH and FS fat rigs. Gotta love steel and cutting thru BS.

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    Did a pretty cool fork recently too, check it out on his site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    Wish that one was mine! Thing is sweet AF.
    My friend Daren builds a handful of bikes a year, I've been lucky enough to end up with a couple (a HT playbike and a 26 6" FS), and yes, steel. He gets a lot out of a single pivot. Check out the SS DH and FS fat rigs. Gotta love steel and cutting thru BS.

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    Did a pretty cool fork recently too, check it out on his site.

    https://www.facebook.com/wraithbicycles/
    That's some fine looking bikeage right there. But it looks like most of what's out there is custom, and custom frames are custom money. I haven't gotten an answer I LIKE out of this thread, but I like what I'm seeing in this thread. Some fine looking bikes being posted.

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    My dream bike is a single speed FS based on the geometry of a Kona Honzo/Process 111. But not as ugly as the Process. A long time ago, Kona built the "A", a single speed FS bike, so they could do it if they wanted to. But there's probably less market for one than there was for the chopper bike.

    Chain line is only a problem if you insist on using a single speed specific hub. If you run a geared hub with spacers you can put the cog anywhere you need it.

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    Just curious have you ridden a milk money with a decent shock on it? It's a great bike! I've got a few "modern FS frames and I don't find the milk money to much behind. If it'
    s a little bouncy on climbs you just lock it out. I don't lock my bike out unless i'm on a smooth climb, even then don't do it much. Climbs fine open to me. I've got a new TOP FUEL and a BMC trailfox

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    Quote Originally Posted by quicksilverta View Post
    Just curious have you ridden a milk money with a decent shock on it? It's a great bike! I've got a few "modern FS frames and I don't find the milk money to much behind. If it'
    s a little bouncy on climbs you just lock it out. I don't lock my bike out unless i'm on a smooth climb, even then don't do it much. Climbs fine open to me. I've got a new TOP FUEL and a BMC trailfox
    I haven't. I've never even laid eyes on one, and that's half the problem. The other half is it seems like a lot of money for something I can only get sight unseen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    A long time ago, Kona built the "A", a single speed FS bike, so they could do it if they wanted to.
    I have two of these. They are fantastic.
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    I also has a Kona A. I really enjoyed that bike but it was too small for me. It is damn hard to find another up for grabs that is an xl. I have been contemplating forking out the cash for a custom built concentric pivot SS. The SS plays so well with a couple inches of squish. All I want is 3" and long reach so I can run a 30mm stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostin View Post
    I also has a Kona A. I really enjoyed that bike but it was too small for me. It is damn hard to find another up for grabs that is an xl. I have been contemplating forking out the cash for a custom built concentric pivot SS. The SS plays so well with a couple inches of squish. All I want is 3" and long reach so I can run a 30mm stem.
    just get the lunch money
    mikesee has one for sale right now
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    I have no skin in the game, but I rode a few Lenz bikes when I was narrowing down my selection, and they are very, very nice bikes.

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    I've drooled over that bike lots but I can't get over the geometry, the xl is still small for me. I like a bigger cockpit and a shorter stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostin View Post
    I've drooled over that bike lots but I can't get over the geometry, the xl is still small for me. I like a bigger cockpit and a shorter stem.
    I get the feeling if you call them up and talk to Devin that he can figure something out for you...

    You can also try Zinn. They make bikes specifically for clydesdales, and a few of them have concentric pivots. They are stupid expensive though.
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