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    Might be leaving the ranks - talk me out of it

    So my 06 Unit, which used to be my only serious bike (rode every day to crew practice, to high school, XC, etc) has been replaced by a Paddy Wagon while I'm in Boston for school. (steel fixed/free). Now that I have a bike for all of those asphalt duties, I'm seriously considering getting a nice wheelset and the new Kona sliders with a hanger and going 1X9 this spring...last summer I found that though some trails were "just right" for my gearing, others were just too rough. Convince me to keep my bike SS (or not if you like 1X9, then tell me about that).

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    I cannot convince you ... but:
    I have both SS and 1x9 and, if I had to give up one, I'd keep the SS. Why? Perhaps because there are fewer mechanical things on the SS to, adjust, clean, break, .... Also, the SS does not allow me to get lazy in the rough spots.

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    you're asking for peer pressure from strangers? ride what you want. if you wanna try 1x9, try 1x9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach
    you're asking for peer pressure from strangers? ride what you want. if you wanna try 1x9, try 1x9.
    Agreed.
    Ride whatever you like.

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    If you ride SS and want to go 1x, I'd go 1x8 instead of 9 unless you don't mind a little extra maintenance. I ride 2x9 on my main bikes but have serious thoughts of going back to 8 speed on one of them for foul weather racing / riding. 9 speed just does not handle mud as well.

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    Just don't spend a lot of money on the conversion to 1x9. I converted my nice Ti hardtail from SS to 1x9, rode it twice, and now it is collecting dust while I ride a beater SS instead. SS is more fun.

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    Have both. Like both.

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    Phuck it!!!

    One speed is all you need!

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    I'm not asking for peer pressure, I'm asking for the opinions of those who have ridden both (since I haven't). Thanks for your responses...I've still got a few months to think about it. I guess the other choice is to get a nice SS wheelset so I can swap out cogs for different trails (right now running a freewheel)

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    What about 1x2 or 2x2?

    That's where I'll go if I ever get weary of SS and fixed.
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    Don't let the door hit'ya..................

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    silly

    I love these threads. "I am thinking of putting ____ on my bike, please tell me it is a bad idea...."

    Opinions on both?

    Both have their place, but I have to admit, on pavement around here, you can get to your destination a lot faster if you have more than one gear. That said, faster is not always better.

    If you are on a tight budget, and you do not need to get everywhere quickly, why would you want to add gears?

    With gears, you will have parts that will wear faster, and need to be replaced/maintained more frequently than a SS, but for that added cost/hassle you will get to your destination faster and/or easier.
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    How many gears does your crew boat have?

    Seriously, I have tried both. I ride SS because it is more economical, and I enjoy it more. When I rode gears, most of my equipment was scrounged from other's junk piles and trash. It worked, but it was like having an old car you loved; sometimes you had to get it running to get to work. I also found when riding that I prefered not to have to think about what gear I needed to be in, when, and if it would shift. That being said, I did have a 1x7 setup once that I enjoyed. It was an old MegaRange freewheel, which had 12-28 (1-6) and a 34t 7th (I called it my bail out gear. In reality, I would only use about four gears on the trail, and the "bail out" gear on steep hills. The bike was really built to be something I could ride to the trail and work in the same day. Turns out a fixed cross bike is better for this.

    Anyway, ride what you like. Half of the fun of bicycles is building them a bunch of different ways

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    If I were you I'd build a 1x8 to make riding to the Fells or the Blue Hills easier/faster. But that's just me being practical. Do whatever floats your boat (horrible pun, I know)...
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    ride what feels right to YOU. not us

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    Like one of these?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tone No Balone
    Phuck it!!!One speed is all you need!
    Really? Like one of these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucero
    So my 06 Unit, which used to be my only serious bike (rode every day to crew practice, to high school, XC, etc) has been replaced by a Paddy Wagon while I'm in Boston for school. (steel fixed/free). Now that I have a bike for all of those asphalt duties, I'm seriously considering getting a nice wheelset and the new Kona sliders with a hanger and going 1X9 this spring...last summer I found that though some trails were "just right" for my gearing, others were just too rough. Convince me to keep my bike SS (or not if you like 1X9, then tell me about that).
    i've been running 1x9 on my unit. not that i don't like SS anymore but my poor fitness level lately kinda forced me into it.

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    Gah. If you have a problem with my post ("blah blah peer pressure blah blah i love these posts"), kindly do not reply. I was just curious about the opinions of the regular SSers on 1X9 compared to 1 gear. I know it's more expensive, but I work for a shop when I'm not at school, so I can afford parts at cost. My real question was whether it actually makes it easier to keep up with geared riders on a variety of trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucero
    My real question was whether it actually makes it easier to keep up with geared riders on a variety of trails.
    I'm gonna go with... yes... having gears makes it much easier to keep up with other geared riders on a variety of trails. Unless they're dropping you on the climbs... then it's no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucero
    whether it actually makes it easier to keep up with geared riders on a variety of trails.
    On my local trails (lots of short ups and downs), I find that SS requires a different rhythm than geared: with SS, I need to attack the climbs while gearies shift down and winch themselves up slowly. If I have a wall of slow gearies in front of me, the climbing can be very hard.

    I suppose gearies could also drop me when the trails are very fast but I know my limitations well enough to stay away from the Greyhound rides, whatever bike I am riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucero
    Gah. If you have a problem with my post ("blah blah peer pressure blah blah i love these posts"), kindly do not reply. I was just curious about the opinions of the regular SSers on 1X9 compared to 1 gear. I know it's more expensive, but I work for a shop when I'm not at school, so I can afford parts at cost. My real question was whether it actually makes it easier to keep up with geared riders on a variety of trails.
    Clarification... okay, this changes everything.

    For me, unless the ride is one of epic, brutal climbing, I ride singlespeed. On a typical ride, the only place I find a singlespeed to be a disadvantage is on the flats.

    In addition to singlespeeds & other bikes, I have a 1x7 BOB puller and a 1x7 FS mountain bike. Loaded touring with a BOB trailer is a blast and I wouldn't want to do it with a singlespeed. The 1x7 FS gets pulled out a couple times a year for massive, brutally steep rides because personally I hate walking a bicycle.

    We have a lot of up and down here in Oregon so a singlespeed works. If my terrain leaned more toward flatish, I'd go with the brief geared setup in order to keep up with my [geared] buddies.

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    Probably should have been clearer about that earlier - thanks for the replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jms
    Really? Like one of these?
    Looks good bro....

    you ridin that?


    Gaude!!!! You are riddin that!
    What happened?
    Now I'll see you lurkin in the SS forum!
    Ride On! John!
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    if you put those gears on yer SS,you will be commiting a sacreligeous act and will burn in the firey furnace as soon as you die....which will be soon as we will all be forced to hunt you down and beat you w/ maces that use SS cogs whilst shootin you with bearings outta our slingshots made outta forks!!!!!!!













    waaaaay just kiddin,dude!the beautiful thing about bikes is they're great,any way ya slice em!my 2 cents is,if'n ya wants ta try 1x9,try it!if'n it don't makes ya happy after tryin it,swap back,and put those parts in the extra parts box (or if'n ya don'ts have one,this'l be a good start).just remember (and repeat to yerself as needed)"it's all good,it's bikes!"
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    ... and if we just ...

    oh yea,and for the love of all things pedalled,post pix either way...we all love bike porn!have fun!
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    I love bike porn, I miss my MTB... only enough room for 1 bike living in a dorm, so all I can do is think about riding this summer/getting my job as a wrench back so I can buy all manner of nice new parts. Thanks for the help guys - I'll probably try it and see if I like it, it'll certainly be easy to go back since I can stay with the sliders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucero
    I miss my MTB... only enough room for 1 bike living in a dorm.
    Sounds like the perfect excuse for a fixed cross bike

    -Rob.

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    The Paddy Wagon could become something close - might be hard to put cantis on it, but it looks like it has decent tire clearance. It was that or a San Jose and I chose Kona cause of the better (dedacciai) tubing. Don't know how much cross riding is close to downtown Boston though.

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    Paddy Wagon ... Isn't it a cyclocross bike?
    ...

    ... where's that pic ...

    just go ahead and learn to ride


    edit...
    found the next pic too:
    Last edited by perttime; 12-11-2007 at 11:30 AM.

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    It's not forever...

    You'll be back beggin' for forgiveness in a few months...

    Like all things bike related, change is the only constant. A lot of us are never happy with what we have; it's all about what's next...

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    Yeah, would be nice if I had enough money to do everything... and a Paddy Wagon is Kona's version of the Langster - nice steel frame, cheapo cranks/brakes, formula fixed/free wheels.

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