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    looking to get into Single Speed...yes someone else wants to join the brotherhood :)

    love the simplicity of Single Speed, and feel a modern SS would be a welcomed option to my current ride (an old proflex).

    The following have been getting my attention :

    Specialized Crave SL
    Trek Stache 5, converted to SS
    The Kona Unit
    Salsa el Mariachi

    My area is mostly fire roads with tons of climbs...so a light rigid would be perfect.

    Thanks

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    Look at the Niner Sir9 too.

    The Stache is a nice bike and I have a friend who has one built into SS, but it is definitely a different geometry (more trail-like) than something like the Sir which is XC geometry.

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    in order to join the brotherhood you need at least 3 tattoo's, 2 bad habits, a chip on your shoulder, visible scars, and the secret hand shake. there will also be a $250 processing fee for your application, PM me for the Paypal address.

    i like steel so i would choose either of the steel frames you listed. they're both good. what kind of budget are you working with?
    Rigid SS 29er
    SS 29+
    Fat Lefty
    SS cyclocross
    Full Sus 29er (Yuck)

    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Given your list I'd also consider the Trek Superfly SS.

    If you're patient and have a limited budget you could scavenge Craigslist for parts and build one or find an off the shelf SS for cheap. It seems there's a love it or hate it mentality about riding SS and some people jump in the SS game without knowing if they'll like it then end up selling the bike a season later.

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    The new SIR9 has more trail oriented geometry compared to the old ones.

    The Salsa has been discontinued, so when this years model are, they are gone. And they have no frames for warranty, a comprobable frame in the lineup.

    You can also get into a Santa Cruz Highball affordable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by latte1973 View Post
    Look at the Niner Sir9 too.

    The Stache is a nice bike and I have a friend who has one built into SS, but it is definitely a different geometry (more trail-like) than something like the Sir which is XC geometry.
    Agreed, the Sir9 may be of interest to your research as well. Beside being of high quality steel, the 142 TA dropout and 44 head tube making it a very desirable upgrade, the BioCentric II allows for a VERY wide range of gear choice with the same length chain.
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    Would like to keep the keep the budget around 2k, so the stache is right at the limit.

    I've checked out both the trek and specialized, both awesome bikes.

    The Crave has a max tire size limitation, 2.3R and 2.4F
    The Stache would have to be reconfigured for SS.
    Steel options would remind me of my old MB3 days = good thing

    Need to checkout steel options...may have to wait until I'm stateside.

    Thank you for the replies, and more importantly clearing up the membership requirements

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    Another choice would be to build up a Soma Juice. The only thing I dont like about the Crave (other then the name) is the EBB. Not a fan with the bolts on the frame. I do currently have a ROS9 with the Niner Biocentric EBB and a 2009 Stumpjumper with sliding dropouts, and I prefer the sliders. No issues with the Biocentric but I really dont use the adjustabilty it offers. I found my happy place, but the happy place can only be set exactly with gears. With SS the BB "height" always changes with a new chain and I find that I notice this more then the chain stay length changing chains with the sliders.

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    Surly Krampus is a nice SS option as well, though not as light as some of the others. Canfield Nimble 9 was one of my favorite SS bikes although I'm not sure if the new generation is SS-able.

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    Don't know your desired wheel size, but the new Kona Unit is being sold as a 27.5"+ bike when buying it as a complete bike (vs frame only).

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    For a rigid SS, 29er makes sense.

    Currently running 2.2s on my old proflex...would like to try more volume on the SS.

    Horizontal dropouts are desirable, but believe EBBs have improved over the years.
    Seems like more companies are adopting them (like niner).

    Having a tapered Head Tube would probably be more future proof.
    Steel trail bike offerings with tapered HTs...Niner and ?

    Building not out of the question, but would prefer to buy a built bike.A Raleigh XXIX got my attention with SS belt drive, steel...until I saw the weight.

    Next bike will be under 25lbs

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    My SIR was 2200 at excel sports in boulder, they may have one in your size. 21ish pounds, AWESOME bike!

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    How heavy is the Niner ROS 9+?

    It's not Reynolds tubing, but has some nice features...

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    looking to get into Single Speed...yes someone else wants to join the brotherhood :)

    My 2016 Kona Unit 29 has Reynolds 520 tubing. It weighs about 24 lbs with a carbon bar, seatpost and fork.


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    Do the earlier Kona units have shorter Chain stay lengths?

    Rootdown BS 16.3" / 415mm
    niner ros plus 17.5" / 445mm
    Crave sl 17.4" / 442mm
    Stache 5 16.5" / 419mm
    Krampus 17.5" / 446mm
    Kona unit 17.1 - 17.7" / 442mm
    Krampus 17.5" / 446mm
    Karate monkey 16.9" / 431mm
    Workswell M-062 16.9" / 430mm
    Soma Juice 17.5 / 445mm
    Jabberwocky 17.1 / 435mm

    Suprised at a few CS lengths.
    Last edited by mr_manny; 07-24-2016 at 09:17 AM.

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    Units have sliding dropouts so you can shorten it a little depending on gearing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_manny View Post
    How heavy is the Niner ROS 9+?

    It's not Reynolds tubing, but has some nice features...
    Mine is 30# setup SS with no regard whatsoever for weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_manny View Post
    Do the earlier Kona units have shorter Chain stay lengths?

    Rootdown BS 16.3" / 415mm
    niner ros plus 17.5" / 445mm
    Crave sl 17.4" / 442mm
    Stache 5 16.5" / 419mm
    Kona unit 17.4" / 442mm
    Krampus 17.5" / 446mm

    Suprised at a few CS lengths.
    2011-2016 Units are 17.1" - 17.7"

    CS lengths for SSs with EBBs are usually reported with EBB centered, whereas those with horizontal dropouts are usually reported with dropouts slammed forward. Why companies don't simply report the range? IDK.

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    Good info..updated the earlier CS info.

    Thanks
    Last edited by mr_manny; 07-24-2016 at 09:18 AM.

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    Vassago Verhauen- Ox Platinum steel and could easily be built in your price range. Contact them by email, mention my name and get a good seat.
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    As someone mentioned earlier...check out the Superfly SS. My XL with pedals came to just under 23lbs when I picked it up new. Later threw on a wider front wheel with a 3.0 and the bike was an absolute blast.
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    cannondale FSI w/ soulcraft chain tensioner is a climber's delight under 17lbs

    Soulcraft - Top Notch Bicycle Frames - Petaluma, CA - Mountain, Road, Cyclocross, Singlespeed, 29er

    any bike can be an SS - i like them lightweight with great brakes.

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    After spending a bunch of time reading threads, I'm leaning towards steel.
    The 2 that seem to get my attention are the jabberwocky and the karate monkey.

    Getting these rigid 29ers running ardent 2.4s under 25lbs = a fun project.

    (Maybe Ardent 2.4 TR front and IKON 2.35 3C EXO TR rear)

    Thanks again for the replies, and look forward to my first single speed
    Last edited by mr_manny; 07-30-2016 at 08:06 PM.

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