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    Good job! Let's hear from some Vision Quest'ers

    Sat. 3/6
    52+ miles
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    http://www.warriorssociety.org/Event...eral_info.html

    Padre?
    Andy?
    someone rode fixed?

    congrats guys (and gals)!
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    good times!

    Hey HWOOD...
    Had a great time...saw a lot of single speeders out for the long haul...no pink bikes though...As for me, I had three flats, and I am not sure that my right knee will ever be the same...hardest thing I have ever done on a bike...the "ride around the bear" has NOTHING on the VQ....

    Congrats to all participants.....Huge thanks to Molly for the support and for turning on the stereo backpack....you rock. Oh, and thanks for the cold ones too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    Sat. 3/6
    52+ miles
    11,000 ft. elev.
    http://www.warriorssociety.org/Event...eral_info.html

    Padre?
    Andy?
    someone rode fixed?

    congrats guys!
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    Next year, I will be there.No really I will.I would of this time, but......

    Seriously, next year for my 50th birthday present to myself I will conquer this beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    Sat. 3/6 52+ miles 11,000 ft. elev. http://www.warriorssociety.org/Event...eral_info.html
    Padre?
    Andy?
    someone rode fixed?
    congrats guys (and gals)!
    ouch. i say it again, ouch.
    I finished in a blinding 9h32m.
    My wife finishing in 7h30m on a rigid 1x1.
    Andy finished in the low six hours laughing all the way
    Hugh finished in 7h something blowing away last years time by nearly 2 hours!
    Dan on the fixie couldn't finish the course due to his knee caps almost blowing off & his body disintegrating. He pulled out at the 42 mile "half-way" point.
    For some perspective, the guy who won on a geared bike, set the course record with a 4h49m time. The 1st singlespeeder wasn't too far behind and finished in fourth I believe.
    Props to all who tried and all who succeeded.
    Much props to my wife for being the first woman to do the VQ on a single, at least as far as I can tell looking over the past results. Not to mention, rigid.
    Ultra-super props to the covert-ops ss boards lurker "monocog" who fancied RUNNING the 52+ miles instead of destroying gearies and ss'ers alike on his rigid BUSS like in previous years. Using my ultra fancy 29er ss i was only able to finish about 15 minutes sooner than the man ON FOOT. I quit. Nice work monocog!
    I'm with donkey as well. No one told me that this event was twice as hard as the shorter, more user-friendly Counting Coup event with is 42 miles and about 8'500 of climbing. That was a CAKE WALK last year compared with the VQ.
    Hell on earth. Hell on earth.
    to quote my wife on the way home from the event.....
    "I'll NEVER do that again.....(long 20 second silence....) until next year....." =)
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    Good job! mad propSS to all VQ finishers.

    you're all a bunch of serious bada$$es. i'd like to think that someday i'll try it, but damn. just damn. that's one long, gruelling slog.

    way to go!


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    Some action shots....
    "Reluctantly crouched at the starting line, Engines pumping and thumping in time.
    The green light flashes, the flags go up. Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.'
    <img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/04VQStartLine.jpg ">
    it was just a matter of time until these smiles turned to sweaty, dirty, hammer-gel covered smiles... from left to right (Padre, Hugh, Drewdawg, 1x1girl aka padre's wife)
    <img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/04VQStartLineSmiles2.jpg ">
    good morning kids. today, your inSStructor will be Drewdawg, get ready for school!
    <img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/04VQDrew.jpg">
    today's entertainment provided by Andy aka Rut (also 3rd ss'er i think)
    <img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/04VQAndy2.jpg">
    here's Hugh getting real impatient with the gearies showing them how "slow" the SSeven is downhill... he's number 43 i think...
    <img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/04VQHughpassing2.jpg">
    and here's 1x1girl looking WAY TOO RESTED after 42 miles... on her way to setting a record... rigid? that's just wrong.
    <img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/04VQLesliemile42.jpg">
    here is my glory picture... while the rest of the crew was already done.. i was suffering my way through the last 10 miles... 3 of which.. was this...i'm number 2 in the conga line of death.
    <img src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/04VQErikpush5.jpg">

    Ouch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Ultra-super props to the covert-ops ss boards lurker "monocog" who fancied RUNNING the 52+ miles instead of destroying gearies and ss'ers alike on his rigid BUSS like in previous years. Using my ultra fancy 29er ss i was only able to finish about 15 minutes sooner than the man ON FOOT. I quit. Nice work monocog!
    those runners are nuts. there is a 50 mile race i do in vermont that has about 8 or 9000 feet of climbing (and i appreciate that another 2000 would be tough). and runners do it as well, and beat me on my geared bike by alot. I just dont understand how they do it. alot of the runners are over 40, not all 18 year old college track stars.
    well, good job.
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    impreSSive!!

    congrats to all!! blood, sweat and tears came together to make it happen! SS or geared, nothing but HARD!
    finished the coup 5:57, two flats
    VQ next year
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    Quote Originally Posted by hefty'n'oc
    congrats to all!! blood, sweat and tears came together to make it happen! SS or geared, nothing but HARD! finished the coup 5:57, two flat.VQ next year
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    Nice work Bill! And on your sweet new Vulture too! If we find any pics of you on the course we'll have to send 'em up to Wade. Nice work.

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    Wow. THat's incredible. Good jobs all of you......

    WOW!

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    Too far for you to drive, or what?

    Props to Andy, Hugh, Padre, and 1x1hottie, or whatever you called her. Chicks on rigid bikes are hot!

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    Good job! 1st place SSer?

    The great performance of that 1st place SSer must be from Calvin Moulder. He's just amazing and the most humble guy you'll ever meet riding his brown B.A.S.S Bianchi. I remember riding Nobel Canyon with him and a bunch of others, when I heard these buzzing of tires as we were climbing this steep section. I thought someone was flying down this hill and I was about to see some horrible carnage. It turns out it was Calvin and it was his tires humming....but he was coming up from BEHIND us climbing that steep section too!

    He's always been an inspiration to me and my wife; mostly for the way he leads his life and secondly, his riding ability.

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    Drewdawg was the first place....

    Calivin actually did the VQ on FOOT this year! He finished in around nine and a half hours, beating a few riders in the process! Truly amazing!
    I believe he now holds the SS course record, and the "on foot" record!

    Way to go Calvin!

    Quote Originally Posted by 34x16
    The great performance of that 1st place SSer must be from Calvin Moulder. He's just amazing and the most humble guy you'll ever meet riding his brown B.A.S.S Bianchi. I remember riding Nobel Canyon with him and a bunch of others, when I heard these buzzing of tires as we were climbing this steep section. I thought someone was flying down this hill and I was about to see some horrible carnage. It turns out it was Calvin and it was his tires humming....but he was coming up from BEHIND us climbing that steep section too!

    He's always been an inspiration to me and my wife; mostly for the way he leads his life and secondly, his riding ability.
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    amazing stuff...

    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    Calvin actually did the VQ on FOOT this year! He finished in around nine and a half hours, beating a few riders in the process! Truly amazing!
    I believe he now holds the SS course record, and the "on foot" record!

    Way to go Calvin!

    Calvin is an awesome guy. I had the pleasure of cruising fixies with him at the Tour de Palm Springs earlier this year. I bailed at 55 mi., he went on to do 100.

    Padre - nice conga photo. You don't look so hot! Glad ya even entered the mofo. And three cheers to Leslie for kickin' rigid butt out there. Jeez.

    nice job to all.

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    Amazing stuff, good job..... I wonder what my schedule is next year. I'd have to get a lot stronger to do it on a SS.

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    My side of the story

    Getting up at 3:30 is never any fun. Getting on your bike before daylight is not always that fun, especially when you know that you will be racing for the next 6 to 10 hours. Here is my story...

    A few of us preregistered the night before and decided to have some pasta at a local Mac Grill. We talked about stratagies, who was going to beat who, where each of us would bonk, when we wanted to finish...all the normal stuff. Before we knew it, we were looking at 9 hours of sleep if we fell asleep at the restaurant. Time to get some sleep.

    We roll to the start and see some familiar faces and warm-up statagies. Guys heading off to the bushes for a last minute pee, people spinning on the trainers, racers checking their watches and of course the best of all, the nervous almost petrified faces. Poacher was there to assist and cheer each and everyone of the crew. Thanks! The race soon started and we watched as the fastest guys quickly wheeled out of site. We soon found our rhythm and started climbing. DrewDawg, Donkey and I used each other to make the first 18 miles seem a little too quick; a 9 mile climb up Black Star Canyon, 7 miles up the Main Divide and 2 miles down the Motorway. Were we going for personal best times? On the first third of the course?! How stupid are we? (you don't have to answer that) We made it to the bottom of Motorway in personal record pace.
    We grab orange segments, refill the water bottles and say thanks to all the volunteers. Soon we start climbing the 2nd third of the course. Donkey falls off the back and soon DrewDawg pulls away, never to be seen again. This third is the final leg for the Counting Coupe course. It starts with a 3 mile paved road climb and is followed by a 4 mile fireroad climb. We then head up to the two peaks and then finally start to descend to the 2nd aid station at the bottom of Holy Jim. At the second peak, Timan sits waiting to check off numbers as we pass. I sit down and enjoy one of the best PB&J sandwiches in the world. I would have paid $50 for it (if I could ever gather that much money.) Looking down the trail I see the 1st female racer and Donkey climbing towards me. Time to get back on the bike and say thanks. The Holy Jim Trail is 6 miles of fun twisting singletrack that ends with several switchbacks and water crossings-one of the best descents around especially during a race.
    DrewDawg is now 20-30 minutes ahead of me and I have no idea where Donkey is (he is actually fixing one of his 3 flats.) For those that have never done this race, this is where the pain truly starts. The Counting Coupe is finished. Doing the first 40+ miles is a walk in the park compared to the last third of the course. The last leg is in the shape of a lolli-pop. For those that have done the VQ, we all know that this is where the Vision Quest got it's name. It starts with 1 mile of fireroad climbing. Quickly turns into singletrack and most of this is barely singlespeedable on a good fresh day. So, yes the hike-a-bike starts early for the ss'ers. The 2.5 miles of hike a bike turns into 4+ miles of hike-a-bike. I see Cameron finishing his race and give him a cheer. It is now 4 hours and 45 minutes into the race and he is almost done. SICK! Just sick I tell you. I only have another 14 miles to go. I got to pass a gearie puking, I heard a CD playing packpack playing disco (or was I delusional?) and thought of all the great friends I have in the biking world. Funny what you think about when you think you are going to die. I finally reach the top and see danish's for the racers at an event tent. I eat a danish and soon a friend makes it to the top as well. We refill the water bottles and soon start the 4 mile climb to the Trabuco Trail descent. The top of Trabuco is the first place in the race that you actually start to smile (47 miles into the race.) From here it is "all down hill." As you finish the descent and start the end of the lolli-pop section, you get to pass the unfortunate people that still have to do the climb. This is where I saw Padre (with a HUGE smile on his face?!) I was so excited to be down, my smile was ear to ear.
    I come across the finish line to have cheers and an ice cold beer waiting for me.
    DrewDawg won the singlespeed division in just over 6 hours. I finished in 5th about 25 minutes back. Donkey followed closely. Soon the others started pouring in too. Wayne, Hugh, Leslie (1st and only female finisher ever,) DaPomp and of course Padre.
    Huge props to Calvin (who has won the ss division for the last 2 years) for running the 52 mile course. Thanks to Chris for putting on such a great event. Thanks to Poacher for putting up with all of our crap before and after the event (you know what I mean) Thanks to Hugh for driving us back to the start. Thanks to everyone that came out and made it the best and hardest day of my life.

    Did we do how we expected?
    Not really. I expected to do a lot worse than I did; so did Drew. We are stoked on the results. Hugh finished more than 2 hours faster than last year. Donkey underestimated the last 1/3 of the course. He should have won the ss division; he is as strong as an ox right now. I am already fearing how he will do next year. Leslie just killed it. Padre rode further than he ever had previously and had the best attitude around. Poacher was an angel. Thanks again.

    See ya next year?
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    Nice write up Rut!
    That put some perspective on it all!

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    Nice summary Andy. Sounds like you guys had a great "fun" out there. It sure was nice weather for riding. I am determined to do it next year. now where did i leave my beer
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    Hey HWOOD...
    Had a great time...saw a lot of single speeders out for the long haul...no pink bikes though...As for me, I had three flats, and I am not sure that my right knee will ever be the same...hardest thing I have ever done on a bike...the "ride around the bear" has NOTHING on the VQ....
    I hope you're joking about the knee. I messed up mine snowboarding a couple years ago and still have problems from time to time. Knee problems are no laughing matter .

    Maybe it'd be a better comparison if you did the Ride Around the Bear (good ride, btw. Missed it last year.) on a fixed-gear.

    Unless you did that, if so you da man!

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    Great job to everyone... you guys kick ass!

    Really wish I coulda been there.... see ya'll next year!

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    I almost forgot!!!!

    Timan saw another mountain lion just before the race near the peaks! He was working support for the race. While driving up the main divide, he saw what he believes to be a female (smaller) mountain lion crossing the road and jumping up into the forrest. It took him hours to get up the nerve to go pee in the bushes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Nice write up Rut!
    That put some perspective on it all!

    thanks, andy. that lit a fire under my butt. see y'all next year to COMPLETE the counting coup this time.

    (yes, you all can hold me to this- especially you, padre!)

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    It's over, just like that!

    Wutup, HW, the VQ was sweet. Rut's story below has it pretty much nailed, but here's my take...

    Wake up at some rediculously early hour hoping that some coffee will inspire a 3:30am bowl movement. I know Nuke was praying this would happen. Roll into the Flying B park at 4:45am and it seems I'm like the last one there. People are riding around, lining up next to the three portapotties, or shooting the breeze with even more coffee. Soon enough we all take the 1.5 mile warmup road to the start where Molly is waiting, ready to grab our jackets and take some last minute pix before the mahem starts. After a few words from Chris, we're off.

    Spinning like crazy down that opening road watching gearies fly by was insane. Riders with socks to their knees or toe clips kicking your a$$. That's what it's all about. Went through some mud bogs and finally the first climb. A few minutes later caught back up to Donkey and Rut and we started chatting. Oh, and there's Steve. Chat some more. Somewhere up near Beek's we had some conversation about the price of fish or some crap like that. We hit the main divide...first steep hill, then lose it all, another steep hill, then lose it all. We chatch up to Ron, fellow Warrior, standing next to his bike looking like he just got hit by a Mack truck. He crashed and tore open his elbow. Nothing that a firmly tied knee warmer can't fix. We continue on, Donkey, Rut and I, deciding who's gonna walk first on that steep section. Soon enough we're at Motorway, I get there first, Rut follows and Donkey not far behind. We catch up to some early starters on Motorway and Rut and I get to ther bottom together. Stop, get some water, eat something, and take off knowing that Deathstar is behind you.

    That paved road up to Maple sucks, enough said. Maple was the deciding factor for me. Felt like I was going to pass out, all I could think of was that Boney M song, "Brown Girl in the Ring" (hopefully ya'll have seen "Touching the Void"). Got to the top, took a quick break, saw Rut coming, and hopped back on. Ron passes me on the way to the peak, blood stained arm and all. Here I was thinking I'm in pain, yeah right. So I stick on his wheel for while. Get to the peak, chill out with Timan for a while. He says, where's Andy? Uh, Andy's right behind me and I take off again...

    Charging down the Main Divide, through 2-3 inches on snow in some spots, motorcycles screaming by spewing fumes everywhere (kind of euphoric though), there's Holy Jim. Yippee, a sweet descent for recovery... On the way down, I see Inkpad and Ladydirt coming up. It's the first time climbers get outta yer way!! Get to the bottom and cruise past the last aid station since I already fueled up with Timan...

    Here we go, the final leg. This leg just sucks because it's really not steep or difficult during most normal days, but after 40 miles and 9000 feet of climbing, and little pebble feels like a boulder. Get to horsethief and start hiking. Pass up Nuke who just finished puking and peeing at the same time (glad I didn't see that) and keep going. Get to the top and hop on the bike. Start pedaling, what the hell is that? Are those what cramps feel like? My legs were so close to locking up it's scary. I think if I stopped I would have been screwed. Perhaps next time I'll down a roll of Tums like Hugh. Get to Trabuco, start heading down, riding stupid cause you really don't care at that point. Ride through streams you would normally tip toe over cause again, you really don't care at that point. On the way down I pass up Leslie (who by the way kicked ass on a fully rigid single), Padre (at first I thought you were a 6'6" sasquatch, DaPomp, and others. Spinning to the finish line...done. Super stoked. After 4 seconds had past, I look back and Rut is nowhere.

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    great write-up. thanks, drew.

    btw- you and andy should submit those writes to bike and dirtrag.

    we need to catch up over a brew!

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    Congratulations to ALL who finished with extra special props to 1X1 girl, great job.
    Got to bed around 11 and was up at 4:45 to eat and get ready.
    The race start was 15 minutes from our house and the morning was beautiful, low 40's and clear. 6:00 AM start (Actual 6:20) and we were all off (200+ registered). I felt great and rode stellar, took about 30 minutes or so to weed through all the people who start up front but are not really that fast but after that it was smooth sailing. I caught the front singlespeeder toward the top of the first climb (about 45 minutes in) and we rode together for a while till we hit the roller up to the highest point on the first 1/3 of the course (Peasants Peak). It's a pretty steep section that most have to walk (last year I walked it), this year however I hit the grade and felt awesome, muscled up over the peak section and about 2/3 the way up I looked back to check and no one was there, right on even feeling better now. Over the next series of rollers and (about 7-10 minutes climbing, then 1-2 minutes descending, total 6)i continued to catch geared riders. (People who think they will not make the cutoff times have the option to start 1 hour early so it was totally cool because I had people to chase down for the first 3 hours till I caught them all). Anyway this brought me to the first singletrack downhill and at the bottom the first aid station. I planned ahead and had someone at the feed assisting me so my stop was less than a minute.
    Off up the mountain, 2nd section climbs to the top of the mountain (Saddleback, Santiago Peak elev. 5800+) and then drops to the bottom of the of the mountain on a singletrack. I stormed through this section in right about 2 hours. To the second aid station and another feed from Di, she took such great care of me. This is the end of the shorter race "The Counting Coo" 42 miles with 8000ft of climbing and I completed in 5th overall, 1st in Singlespeed in just under 4 hours total. Totally stoked, feeling great I took off for the final section - 11 miles, 3000 ft of climbing and 3.0+ miles of hiking. I started up, it's about a 10 minutes to the hike section (for tired singlespeeders it's starts a bit earlier), then I began walking up hill, yuck, I frickin died on this stretch, I suffered so much, I wanted to quit so bad, just head back down and quietly go home, maybe this race isn't for me?? Such thoughts course through the mind as I trudged up in the 92 degree heat. The hike is straight up the side of the mountain and surrounded by sage brush, (no trees, little shade, and it's 11 something o'clock so the sun is absolutely blazing, I'm alone and 5 hours in) I learned something though, when the first person (Geared rider) hiked past me, he had his helmet hanging on his bars, prior to this I was wearing my helmet watching the water (sweat) drip - stream off my head to the ground. When I saw him I took of my helmet and felt allot better. I continued on forever making headway stopping a couple of times to rest and rant to myself, I sat down for 5 minutes to rest and try to recover a bit. It felt good and maybe it helped but starting again brought me right back to the agony. Cramps were beginning to come on and my core was so sore from all the effort of the prior hours. About 2/3 the way up was a couple of guys manning a video camera, it was at the top of a long straight section and I woozily trudged past without looking up, sweat flowing from everywhere to the comment from the camera "Way to Suffer for the camera", my response was, without looking up, I couldn't, "This sucks" onward I pushed, a bit further up I was finally caught by Drew, who jogged past me and cordially gave me encouragement!! Ouch. I finally topped out the stupid section and got back on my steed (as it's meant to be) and took off. The hike tops out at the Main Divide fireroad at a small peak on the ridgeline so it's a short down hill followed by 2 steep climbs and then you hook into another singletrack that is about 30 minutes of all technical downhill (at the singletrack the relief to have all the climbing completed was blissful) to the finish. So anyway, I top out the hike and climb back on, at the base of the next climb I start up and my entire body is one big cramp, neck, triceps, shoulders, back middle and lower, oblique, abs, inner thighs and calves, I can no longer take deep breathes because my intercostals muscles in my ribcage cramp and hurt so bad every time my lungs try to expand so I am resorted to shallow panting. I "climb" off my bike and stand beside whimpering and slightly tearing up. It's pure anguish, as I do this I am passed by 2 more singlers. I muster up and take off ignoring everything to complete the climb. At the top I turn onto the single track and elation comes in and I can ride again. First it's to catch the last guy who past me, got him about 1/3 the way down the trail. I am on his wheel and all of the sudden he slams on his breaks and pulls left into the bushes, I slam on my brakes, seeing clear trail and not knowing what's up?? He yells he has a flat and I jam around him trying to make up time, by the bottom I catch 2 guys on geared bikes and race with them through the final sections. As we approach the finish line the flat dude catches back (a supreme job!) and we cross the line wheel to wheel, with me in 4th overall @ 6:15:11.
    The winning singlespeed time was 6:04, so Drew put 11 minutes into me in the final section.

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    Nice ridin'

    'Sup, Eric! You rode an awesome race. You cruised by Rut, Donkey and I on BStar... I hear ya on the cramping, I never want to experience that again! I've seen Terminaut one-two-three-flip off his bike with cramps--on a downhill!

    We'll see ya on the trail soon enough---just not anywhere near the Main Divide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewdawg
    'Sup, Eric! You rode an awesome race. You cruised by Rut, Donkey and I on BStar... I hear ya on the cramping, I never want to experience that again! I've seen Terminaut one-two-three-flip off his bike with cramps--on a downhill!

    We'll see ya on the trail soon enough---just not anywhere near the Main Divide.
    I've never done so well hurting so bad...
    That last loop was the longest 3 hours of my life. Seriously, it felt like an entire extra race. Whew.
    I'm going to venture up the divide to find my lost visor i think... as bad as that sounds.. i'll bring the gears though so i can limp along in 24x34 nursing my sore muscles....

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    You guys [and GAL] rule!

    Way to freakin' GO! I wish I could do this huge ride... but no way. There's no way I could begin training early enough here in Orygun... it's too cold and wet and dark in Dec/Jan/Feb. Don't get me wrong, I ride all year, but not the kind of training it'd take to finish that badass thang, esp. the way you guys [and GAL] hammered it!

    Now that you're all in super duper shape, come on up and do the Cream Puff in June! So what it shiggy says it's full -- it's on public land so he can't keep people from riding the course even if they're not officially 'entered.'

    I said "just do it" waaaaaay before Nike ever did!

    And he thought he could ban ME!!! Haaaaa haaaaaa....!!!

    --Sparty


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