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    The LBS is pissing me off

    I thought I had this whole singlespeed conversion thing figured out, so I go to the shop to buy a spacer kit and a chain tensioner. I get there and they tell me that my hubs are not single speed compatible and that they will need to be replaced which will cost a few hundred dollars according to them. I thought they were confusing SS with fixed, but they were convinced I couldn't convert my gearie. I thought you could do this to any bike, am I wrong?

    Anyway, I just wanted to double check that if I have one rear cog, a straight chainline, and a tensioned chain, thats all I need? No special hubs needed?

    Thanks.

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    I dunno, sounds like a load of bollocks from an opportunistic LBS. If you bought a new wheel, it wouldn't cost you a few hundred dollars, nevermind spending that sort of money on your allegedly incompatible hub.

    What sort of hub are you sporting here? If you're not sure, a picture of the hub may help.

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    As long as you have a cassette style hub (and not a freewheel hub) you can run the spacers and a single cog no problem.

    However, the splines on the bodies of some cassettes may wear out quicker than others (a consideration since most are made with the intention of supporting an entire cassete and not just one cog) but I doubt that is what your LBS meant by not compatible.

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    Its a Shimano FH-C201 VIAM
    9 speed

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    I think we all know what the BS stands for in this case.

    A 9-speed freehub can be converted to singlespeed - its what the spacers are for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdasd
    Its a Shimano FH-C201 VIAM
    9 speed
    It will work.
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    My LBS seems pretty clueless when it comes to a lot of aspects of cycling. Get your parts off the interenet and save yourself some time and $$$.

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    Awesome, thanks for the help.

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    As long as the hub body is steel and you are able to take the cassette off of it, it should work fine. A lot of bike shops around me aren't terribly familiar with multi to single speed conversions, so don't be surprised if you run into a bunch of people that would rather sell you a bunch of stuff.
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    In this case, the Spanish spelling applies:

    "El BS"

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    Perhaps they are confusing a regular hub + tensioner with the ENO eccentric hub?
    Otherwise, pure BS. Nothing nicer than a geared hub spaced with a cheap-ass SS cog.
    with my buddy, we took the worn out shfting bits off his 26" commuter Giant. Left all the chainrings to save effort. Enter some spacers and a 16t DX or Novatec. Fresh Deore chain (yeah, $himano) and a cheap tensioner, plus some extra elastics bands for perfection. He's been riding that to work daily, with grins and higher speeds, for many months now.

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    they are clueless douchebags.

    all you need is a cog, tensioner, spacer kit and you're set. use the surly cogs, as they are very wide and cause less damage to aluminum freehub bodies.

    if it was me, i would never set foot in their miserable hovel again! (except to take my CONVERTED wheel in to show them it works)
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    Anyone have suggestions for a reliable place to buy a spacer kit and tensioner from? (preferably Fibonacci kit). I don't use paypal so I cant order from Endless and I called all of the shops around who dont carry any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdasd
    Anyone have suggestions for a reliable place to buy a spacer kit and tensioner from? (preferably Fibonacci kit). I don't use paypal so I cant order from Endless and I called all of the shops around who dont carry any.
    If you want to buy from a place that knows singlespeeds, and has fast shipping and is run by a super-cool dude, try Harris Cyclery.

    Those dudes know their stuff, and they'll ship it to you quickly and answer any questions you have.. they carry a lot of cool gear too.
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    you might want to try finding a different bike shop. i know my lbs always has gusset spacer kits in stock, as well as pyramid tensioners and surly tensioners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbrennan
    you might want to try finding a different bike shop. i know my lbs always has gusset spacer kits in stock, as well as pyramid tensioners and surly tensioners.
    avoid the pyramid tensioners... they're crap.
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    i've used both a pyramid and a surly, and the pyramid worked better. my favorite tensioner is my horizontal droupouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdasd
    Anyone have suggestions for a reliable place to buy a spacer kit and tensioner from? (preferably Fibonacci kit). I don't use paypal so I cant order from Endless and I called all of the shops around who dont carry any.
    Pricepoint.com still carries the Gusset spacer conversion kit for like $20. Not sure about tensioners. That's what a crapped out derailleur is for. Actually, a quick look shows them carrying tensioners by Rennen, DMR and Kore. Seems like people like the Rennen on this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdasd
    Anyone have suggestions for a reliable place to buy a spacer kit and tensioner from? (preferably Fibonacci kit). I don't use paypal so I cant order from Endless and I called all of the shops around who dont carry any.
    Try Misfit Psycles, I just replaced my gusset cogs and spacers with their kit (with cod cog, spacers, and Blackspire MonoVeloce chain ring) works and looks great

    <a href="https://static.flickr.com/170/421465207_775201c935_o.jpg"><img src="https://static.flickr.com/170/421465207_775201c935.jpg" /></a>

    <a href="https://static.flickr.com/125/421465353_6061b214be_o.jpg"><img src="https://static.flickr.com/125/421465353_6061b214be.jpg" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdasd
    Anyone have suggestions for a reliable place to buy a spacer kit and tensioner from? (preferably Fibonacci kit). I don't use paypal so I cant order from Endless and I called all of the shops around who dont carry any.
    I used the Endless spacers on my converSSion and they work just fine. I think I got mine from bikeman.com . I started out looking for the Spot spacers, but everyone was out of them. The guys a bikeman helped me tremendously and responded to all my emails. Plus the Endless guys are just a couple of hours from me
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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    Try Misfit Psycles, I just replaced my gusset cogs and spacers with their kit (with cod cog, spacers, and Blackspire MonoVeloce chain ring) works and looks great

    <a href="https://static.flickr.com/170/421465207_775201c935_o.jpg"><img src="https://static.flickr.com/170/421465207_775201c935.jpg" /></a>

    <a href="https://static.flickr.com/125/421465353_6061b214be_o.jpg"><img src="https://static.flickr.com/125/421465353_6061b214be.jpg" /></a>
    Hey Cris, where'd you pick up the Blackspire? I'm trying to get my hands on a 104, but can't find it any other place than pricepoint.. you like it huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dip n ride
    Hey Cris, where'd you pick up the Blackspire? I'm trying to get my hands on a 104, but can't find it any other place than pricepoint.. you like it huh?
    I got the chainring from misfit too. Here's the link:
    http://psyclestore.com/product_info.php?products_id=141

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    apparently jensonUSA has it too, but only the 32T is in stock

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...Chainring.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    I got the chainring from misfit too. Here's the link:
    http://psyclestore.com/product_info.php?products_id=141
    Thanks man, oh, and what kind of chain are you running? I usually like PC-1s (1/8) but the description says the cogs you are running are 3/32.. does it matter?

    I really like the look of their cogs too. Did you order the set of 4?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dip n ride
    Thanks man, oh, and what kind of chain are you running? I usually like PC-1s (1/8) but the description says the cogs you are running are 3/32.. does it matter?

    I really like the look of their cogs too. Did you order the set of 4?
    No prob!

    as long as the chain is wider than the cog it shouldn't be a problem, my chain is shimano 8 speed.. forgot which exactly...

    I just ordered one of their standard kits with Cod Cog (spacers + cog) and the chainring

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    i just ordered the blackspire from speedgoat for $20.

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    yep.. the 34T is in stock @ speedgoat for $22

    http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp...=50&brand=1147

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    No prob!

    as long as the chain is wider than the cog it shouldn't be a problem, my chain is shimano 8 speed.. forgot which exactly...

    I just ordered one of their standard kits with Cod Cog (spacers + cog) and the chainring
    Awesome.. thanks for your help, I'll look into those for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dip n ride
    Awesome.. thanks for your help, I'll look into those for sure.
    Anytime!

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    Rennen is tops.

    They make the best tensioner (IMHO) and a great spacer kit. The spacer kit is nice but it is still just a spacer kit and there are many ways to do it. There eb site is under Rennen Designs.

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    If you haven't bought the spacer kit yet, there's a real inexpensive (but not pretty) alternative. I took a few old cassettes and pulled the spacers out of them, tossed the cogs into my recycling bin, and I now have almost infinitely adjustable spacing choice. Cost $0.00 for spacers, about $22 for a Surly cog, (I like the wide base the Surly has since some freehubs I may end up using are alloy)

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