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    "high volume" tires

    What exactly constitutes a "high volume" tire to pair with a rigid carbon fork?

    What is a short list of good high volume tires?

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    Maxxis ardent 2.4
    Racing Ralph 2.4
    Mountain King 2.4
    Race king 2.4
    Nobby nic 2.35
    Panaracer Rampage 2.35

    These are the ones I have used minus the race king
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Maxxis ardent 2.4
    Racing Ralph 2.4
    Mountain King 2.4
    Race king 2.4
    Nobby nic 2.35
    Panaracer Rampage 2.35

    These are the ones I have used minus the race king
    so most anything >2.2...
    Anyone know max tire clearance for Niner RDO fork?

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    Don't know the actual clearance on an RDO, but here is an Ardent 2.4 on my Niner Carbon, with plenty of room to spare (not that you can tell that from the pic):


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    I didn't realize there was a Race King 2.4? The 2.2" I had were a good size, especially for a notoriously undersized Conti...

    Currently running an Ardent 2.4" up front in a Niner CF fork. Loads of room in the fork, at least with a skinny Crest rim. Love the tire up front

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    Not sure how technical we wanna get in here, but the rim you choose can also change things. The wider the rim, the wider a tire will be and the flatter the tread will be. Let me try to find some google pics to show you...

    Kenda Slant Six 26x2.35 tires on Surly Marge Lite rims (82mm wide rims)



    Couldn't find any pictures of S6's in that size on a narrower rim but this picture is my personal bike with Kenda 26x2.35 tires mounted to Velocity Blunt rims which are only 28mm wide. You can see that my tires are much rounder and have much less "volume" than the same size tire on a different rim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1035 View Post
    I didn't realize there was a Race King 2.4? ...
    There's not. Check here. Unless they used to make one, which I don't believe they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    Not sure how technical we wanna get in here, but the rim you choose can also change things. The wider the rim, the wider a tire will be and the flatter the tread will be. Let me try to find some google pics to show you...

    Kenda Slant Six 26x2.35 tires on Surly Marge Lite rims (82mm wide rims)



    Couldn't find any pictures of S6's in that size on a narrower rim but this picture is my personal bike with Kenda 26x2.35 tires mounted to Velocity Blunt rims which are only 28mm wide. You can see that my tires are much rounder and have much less "volume" than the same size tire on a different rim.

    Very good point re: rim size for tire width and volume...

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    Sheldon Brown to the rescue:

    Measuring Bicycle Rim Sizes

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    There's not. Check here. Unless they used to make one, which I don't believe they did.
    Sorry, I must be mistaken! At least I diddnt lie and say I had ridden it
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    And dont always go by the labeled size. Saying "anything 2.2 and wider is high volume" can be false in some tires cases(pun not intended, but lets just roll with it(double pun not intended))
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    In my experience, i have found the 2.4 Ardent, 2.3 Tioga Psycho Genius, and 2.4 Mutano Raptor all have decent volume. All depends on what terrain your riding and which would work best.

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    I think he may have been thinking of the Conti X-King 2.4 29er
    A couple months back I bought two of them from Cycle Sports for about $35ea.
    They are a pretty big tire with a great tread pattern.
    I haven't swapped out my current tires since I run a suspension fork,
    but as soon as the rigid fork goes back on, these will too!
    Ibis Ripley LS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Maxxis ardent 2.4
    Racing Ralph 2.4
    Mountain King 2.4
    Race king 2.4
    Nobby nic 2.35
    Panaracer Rampage 2.35

    These are the ones I have used minus the race king
    Man, I got really excited about the 2.4 race king. Ive been waiting for that tire....or any other really fast 2.4.
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    I love my Ardent 2.4. Wasn't impressed with MK 2.4. I'd love to try WTB Weirwolf LT 2.5.

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    The Racing Ralph 2.4 has been great for me...light and fast rolling. I'm on a full rigid ss 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05 View Post
    Man, I got really excited about the 2.4 race king. Ive been waiting for that tire....or any other really fast 2.4.
    Sorry bout that.

    Maybe you can find a Racing Raph 2.4 somewhere. It has either been discontinued or will be discontinued soon... Its supposedly a faster tread than the race king.

    Also, 2.35 Nobby Nic is a pretty fast tire for how grippy/aggressive it is. I cant remember the results of the rolling resistance test, but it was up there.

    Maxxis Ikon is extremely fast and high volume for a 2.2.

    Thats all I got...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Sorry bout that.

    Maybe you can find a Racing Raph 2.4 somewhere. It has either been discontinued or will be discontinued soon... Its supposedly a faster tread than the race king.

    Also, 2.35 Nobby Nic is a pretty fast tire for how grippy/aggressive it is. I cant remember the results of the rolling resistance test, but it was up there.

    Maxxis Ikon is extremely fast and high volume for a 2.2.

    Thats all I got...
    The newer RaRa is available in 2.35. Basically the same size as the old 2.4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    Kenda Slant Six 26x2.35 tires on Surly Marge Lite rims (82mm wide rims)

    So is there a point which a rim can be too wide? It seems to me that having the tread too square/blocky/flat would be awesome for straight line traction (climbing, braking), but could hinder cornering. Am I off my rocker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1035 View Post
    So is there a point which a rim can be too wide? It seems to me that having the tread too square/blocky/flat would be awesome for straight line traction (climbing, braking), but could hinder cornering. Am I off my rocker?
    You are correct, and it varies with the tire width and tread design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrising View Post
    Very good point re: rim size for tire width and volume...
    The affect of rim width is less than many think, and differs with the tire size and the rim.

    Effect of Rim Width on Tire Width
    Weirwolf/Stout/Rampage 29? Specs on 35mm & 24mm Rims
    Aggressive 29ers: WTB Kodiak and Dissent

    I now have 45mm and 65mm 26" rims and need to do an update with those.
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    Makes sense, if your side knobs are no longer on the side of the tire profile...obviously an extreme case but something to ponder anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Sorry bout that.

    Maybe you can find a Racing Raph 2.4 somewhere. It has either been discontinued or will be discontinued soon... Its supposedly a faster tread than the race king.

    Also, 2.35 Nobby Nic is a pretty fast tire for how grippy/aggressive it is. I cant remember the results of the rolling resistance test, but it was up there.

    Maxxis Ikon is extremely fast and high volume for a 2.2.

    Thats all I got...
    Yeah, I like the Ikon's, but they are a little bit thin even with the exo casing i was tearing. And, I think the RaRa 2.4 would be the answer, but I'm hesitant to buy them because they are so expensive, and I tend to rip tires open every couple of months.

    Next one I want to try is the MK 2.4. Or the ardent if it wasnt 800 grams.
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