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    Fastest 29er SS frame on the planet, which one?

    After two Rigs and my trusty Superfly SS, I am starting to look for my next SS frame. Although I love my Superfly, the frame hasn't seen any major updates in 3 years. Anyone care to share their thoughts on what the lightest, stiffest (but still comfortable, I don't want a jackhammer), best handling SS for tight New England woods might be? The Sworks frameset comes to mind and I like the dropouts (my superfly needed some mods to beef it up). I prefer carbon but would consider alternative materials like TI (never ridden a TI bike). The bike will see plenty of racing, time trials and tons of hardcore single track so it has to be pretty tough. I weigh 140lbs and run a 15" frame, I like a TT in the 22.5. - 22.75" range. No eccentric BB please, I'm not going there again, remember, I still have a rig (2nd one). Thanks for sharing your comments.

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    The stumpjumper comes with a reba with standard dropouts. I would prefer a thru axle. maybe you could get one without the fork

    The niner comes to mind. I know its not the lightest but I hear its a good ride and stiff.

    Wish I knew more about high end SS frames!
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    Get a custom Ti, check out the Triton thread.

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    A stiff built titanium frame would be pretty sweet. Maybe you can own it forever! Or maybe not.
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    Time trials? Are you racing King of Burlingame?
    The record holder, Dan Barry, was riding a Rig when he set the record. He's riding a Geekhouse now.

    Scooter was kicking everyone's ass on a rigid Niner One9 last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    Time trials? Are you racing King of Burlingame?
    The record holder, Dan Barry, was riding a Rig when he set the record. He's riding a Geekhouse now.

    Scooter was kicking everyone's ass on a rigid Niner One9 last year.

    Haven't done the King of Burlingame but it sounds like fun. Do they have a SS class? What type of course is it? Any advice on gearing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIV2RYD View Post
    Haven't done the King of Burlingame but it sounds like fun. Do they have a SS class? What type of course is it? Any advice on gearing?
    No SS class, but then again they don't need one. Gearing as big as you can push. Course who knows, its a new course this year.

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    The fastest frame is the one that actually fits you and your riding style.

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    I ride an 11 superfly ss myself but would like to try a black sheep. I have tried one out before but would consider it being my next frame.

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    Easy.....

    Niner Air Carbon is part freakin' monster thoroughbred and part mountain goat.

    Sexy lookin too......
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    Niner uses an EBB, not going there again.

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    A custom built Ti bike is the way to go. Having a bike built specifically for you makes a big difference and Ti makes for quite a nice ride. Check into Cysco Cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by febikes View Post
    The fastest frame is the one that actually fits you and your riding style.
    your in New England where there are so many awesome builders (including the builder of my frame Ted Wojcik) and your looking at these others . Makes no sense to me, but to each his own. Having a frame built to fit you and your riding style by a builder that has intimate knowledge of the terrain you ride is my personal definition of "THE HOLY GRAIL". It just doesn't get any better than that imho.
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    There are no fast frames, only fast riders.

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    To each his own!

    Quote Originally Posted by LIV2RYD View Post
    Niner uses an EBB, not going there again.
    I haven't had any problems. This is the only one I have owned however. I like the design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    The stumpjumper comes with a reba with standard dropouts.
    I have this set-up in the S-Works Carbon. And while I'm pretty fast myself, there are a couple of pro racers around here that consistently kick my ass...badly .

    So...can't say this frame is the fastest .
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    Never owned a custom frame, I'll start looking into a few local builders and see what's available. Anyone have any experience comparing TI vs Carbon on a SS?

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    [QUOTE=LIV2RYD;9077851 No eccentric BB please, I'm not going there again, remember, I still have a rig (2nd one). Thanks for sharing your comments.[/QUOTE]


    Saying you don't like EBB's cause you had a rig is like saying you hate vegetables because you had brussell sprouts. I have had several bikes in my life with an EBB and the Rig was the only one that was annoying, but once I learned how to grease and care for it it was fine.
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    It's all about the rider not the bike. See what Ned rode to a US title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitzikatzi View Post
    It's all about the rider not the bike. See what Ned rode to a US title.
    It is all about the rider but Ned had a pretty special build on that Rockhopper.

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    Yeah, the wheels cost more than my bike.

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    +1 on an Air9 Carbon. Follow their EBB installation recommendations and they're golden
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    Crumpton. Some sort of custom carbon, I prefer a EBB but if you go custom you can have what ever you want. Track drops would be the lightest... BB30, maybe sub 1000g?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIV2RYD View Post
    Anyone have any experience comparing TI vs Carbon on a SS?
    They are not both SS but I have a Cannondale Flash carbon 29er and built up a Ti 29er SS last year. Similar builds with Lefty forks, same bars, brakes etc. Love the Ti so much the Flash is up for sale. If the wife would allow it I would sell my road carbon frame and get a Ti one for that too.

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    Anyone have anything good or bad to say about the Salsa Selma Ti frame. I have been thinking about it, but have not made a decision yet.
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    Have not seen any on these threads, but have you looked at a Ragley TD9? That's on my lust list when I replace my One One...

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