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    Does everybody have to know you ride a SS?

    or would you rather ride it anonomously with nobody including yourself commenting that you ride a SS?
    Me,I have been on both sides but lately I am a little embarrassed to ride a SS,some people won't shut up about them,it's just a fricking bike,get over yourself.

    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.

    What say you?
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    Singlespeeders Insecure??? No waaaay !!


    Just because I carry a small blanket everywhere with me doesn't mean i'm insecure.





    *edit*: of course, I stuff the small blanket down my shorts...

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    I'm secure riding a SS. On the trails my bike has only recieved compliments thus far.
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    The ONLY time...

    I put socks down my shorts is when I'm on a ss. Oh and it has to be a rigid ss!

    Yeah, just ride man. It ain't no big thang...seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedMantra
    I'm secure riding a SS. On the trails my bike has only recieved compliments thus far.
    Yeah my bike gets a lot of compliments also.What I'm getting at is some people just have a knack for turning any conversation into...my rigid SS blah,blah,blah,yada,yada,ya
    I've been inside too long.

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    Yes, I have to admit that I'm very insecure. I always wear a sock.
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    I am enthusiastic about ss'ing...

    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    What I'm getting at is some people just have a knack for turning any conversation into...my rigid SS blah,blah,blah,yada,yada,ya
    and I do talk about how much I like it, but on normal rides with friends I sometimes wish the conversation would not be on the bike I ride. It does get some focus and after a while it's uncomfortable.

    That's why I only ride with ss'ers now. We have to stick together. Everyone is out to git us...

    Just kidding. That last part I mean, that's where I was kidding. The first part I meant.

    Oh and to be totally honest, during a race, I've got to admit the extra attention the ss gets is nice. Sorry but it is. So maybe I am insecure, out to prove something to the world.

    Do I sound insecure

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    I have a fake derailleur on mine to head off the comments.
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    Word.

    I couldn't agree more. There's nothing worse than riding with someone who feels the need to make the whole group aware of the fact that they're riding a bike with one speed. It's usually the same guy who points out that he's riding "fully rigid". I suppose it's all an ego thing...making sure everyone notices how great a rider you are.

    It does make me a little embarassed at times to be lumped into a category with the braggarts....I never wanted to be a "look at me" when I was growing up and I certainly don't want to be one now:-)

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    Excellent suggestion...

    Quote Originally Posted by wooglin
    I have a fake derailleur on mine to head off the comments.
    to go with my sock

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    I put socks down my shorts is when I'm on a ss. Oh and it has to be a rigid ss!

    Yeah, just ride man. It ain't no big thang...seriously.
    Hence the socks in the shorts

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    Ha!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MudInMyEars
    Hence the socks in the shorts
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    or would you rather ride it anonomously with nobody including yourself commenting that you ride a SS?
    Me,I have been on both sides but lately I am a little embarrassed to ride a SS,some people won't shut up about them,it's just a fricking bike,get over yourself.

    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.

    What say you?
    Uhhhh, yeah. You admitted here how you didn't get Screampint's point about this. I guess you really didn't get it because you've created a whole new thread saying the same thing.

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    i do get teased a lot for it but fortunately for me, i am used to that. frankly, i get teased for everything i do so i have no idea it is because i have a single speed or not. all i know is that i like to ride one, period.

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    I ride by myself mostly. Other wize I'm with other sserts or gearies I've ridden with a lot. If its a new group I'm riding with I usually have to point out to them I'm on a ss so they'll let me go first up the tight single track climbs. Otherwize the gearies will down shift and I'll be off the bike. Once people get used to ssers in a group tho the only comments are either curses as you pass them up hill or jibes when they pass me walking. Its all respect tho. I don't expect cudos cos I'm different. To me singlespeeding is easier its every one else who's doin it hard.

    But in answer to the posters question: Yes I prefer anonimity but would just love all gearies to automatically move out of the way as they down shift at the bottom of a hill.

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    hey thanks for sharing

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    Uhhhh, yeah. You admitted here how you didn't get Screampint's point about this. I guess you really didn't get it because you've created a whole new thread saying the same thing.
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    Attention starved...

    Theres this truly obnoxious guy who frequents my local mid-week ride you know the techno weenie type full of opinions ready to spout off on all his accomplishments in the past (never the present day), whats the proper bike setup and what not. His conversations revolve around me, me, me.

    He isnt that good of a rider, and would stop at the top of the hill to adjust tire pressures (coincidentally while he caught his breath). I got the impression he enjoyed being seen on the SS more than riding it.

    With weeks and months rolling by on the mid-week group ride, more started to convert to singlespeeding. All of a sudden, Mr. know-it-all declares his contempt for singlespeeding, as its become too mainstream and everyone and their brother is riding one now. Hes focused on riding vintage bikes from the late 80s and early 90s.

    With Mr. Authority, I felt embarassed and ashamed that schmuck was doing it for popularity points, yet I felt liberated that guy doesnt represent us anymore. He obviously doesnt get it.

    Unlike him, I dont give a **** what others think of me riding SS. Regardless of whatever motives others have for riding SS, I just hope they do it because they enjoy it.

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    And put a sock on it!

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    What do you mean the length of my message is too short....you makin' fun of me?

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    Yup ride with a guy who has to point out to everyone including people he doesn't know that he is on a single speed. He is also the "my other bike is a ... (insert custom frame here)" guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt
    Yup ride with a guy who has to point out to everyone including people he doesn't know that he is on a single speed. He is also the "my other bike is a ... (insert custom frame here)" guy.
    i know the type.....fortunately dont ride with any
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    Now go [email protected]#K yourself
    You know, sometimes you look back at something you wrote and realize it came across a little more abrasive than you intended. But I gotta say, I think it was worth that response! I had to turn my head to keep from spitting beer all over the place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    or would you rather ride it anonomously with nobody including yourself commenting that you ride a SS?
    Me,I have been on both sides but lately I am a little embarrassed to ride a SS,some people won't shut up about them,it's just a fricking bike,get over yourself.

    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.

    What say you?
    I ride the road on a geared bike and I sometimes ride offroad on a geared bike, although I prefer singlespeeds offroad.
    I can't understand how you could feel someone is insecure just because of the bike he or she rides. I dont feel anymore secure or insecure riding any of my bikes, geared or singlespeed.
    When I ride my singlespeed, I dont point out the fact that I'm on one, some people notice and give the common comments, I just keep riding and get over it.

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    I do not care. My bikes make themselves noticed. Others may or may not realize it is (or is not) a SS at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
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    yeah that guy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt
    Yup ride with a guy who has to point out to everyone including people he doesn't know that he is on a single speed. He is also the "my other bike is a ... (insert custom frame here)" guy.
    if there isn't a person like that in your circle...and every circle has "that guy"
    you must be "that guy"and people are making fun of you.
    I've been inside too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    or would you rather ride it anonomously with nobody including yourself commenting that you ride a SS?
    Me,I have been on both sides but lately I am a little embarrassed to ride a SS,some people won't shut up about them,it's just a fricking bike,get over yourself.

    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.

    What say you?

    F no. it's just a bike... but then again, a trailheadweenie is still a trailheadweenie regardless of whether he/she has shifter and derailleurs or not.

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    anthony must also ride rigid singlespeeds....

    I still think it'd be more comfy to wear shorts with a pad rather than a sock, but whatever floats your boat
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    Personally, it makes me very self conscious when someone draws attention the fact.
    Now with more vitriol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla
    Personally, it makes me very self conscious when someone draws attention the fact.
    ...that you are wearing just a sock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    I do not care. My bikes make themselves noticed. Others may or may not realize it is (or is not) a SS at first.

    Good to see you back on the boards KgB!
    With your psychedelic wheels I doubt people notice you are on a bike.

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    A bike is a bike is a bike...

    I ride my bike on singletrack. I don't care what other people think about me riding my bike enough to point out to them what type of bike I'm riding. If they point it out, my usual response is "singlespeeding seems to fit my riding style" and leave it at that.

    When I'm in Colorado, I ride a geared bike because I don't have the lungs fitness to enjoy myself on a SS. When I'm in the Midwest, I ride a SS because I like riding a SS better than gears. There are a lot of SSers here but I haven't run in to any SS posers that I can recall.

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    double post sorry
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    It's no different from people talking about their new Widget, made from unobtainium that MAKES their ride. I generally don't go spoutin' off to some new rider that I just met about what I'm riding but I will admit to talking to the children of the hikers I meet on trail about it, ie. "look it only has one speed just like yours, why aren't you riding?". I figure it's best to scare em young.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken in KC
    I ride my bike on singletrack. I don't care what other people think about me riding my bike enough to point out to them what type of bike I'm riding. If they point it out, my usual response is "singlespeeding seems to fit my riding style" and leave it at that.

    When I'm in Colorado, I ride a geared bike because I don't have the lungs fitness to enjoy myself on a SS. When I'm in the Midwest, I ride a SS because I like riding a SS better than gears. There are a lot of SSers here but I haven't run in to any SS posers that I can recall.

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    I'm a poser Ken. I don't even like singlespeeding. I just want people to think that I'm cool. I never hesitate to point out that I'm riding a SS so that all the other kids will think that I'm a badas$. To be honest, in my heart, I'm a leg-shaving, weight-weenie, roadie. After I get home from riding my SS, I shower and put on my lance Armstrong halloween mask and full team Discovery kit, put my new carbon Record front derailleur on the digital gram scale (accurate to the milligram) and then masturbate while staring at myself in the mirror. I'm not saying that I'm gay...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    or would you rather ride it anonomously with nobody including yourself commenting that you ride a SS?
    Me,I have been on both sides but lately I am a little embarrassed to ride a SS,some people won't shut up about them,it's just a fricking bike,get over yourself.

    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.

    What say you?
    I dont mean to be a jerk or anything, but dont you have a vanity plate that says 'SNGLSPD'?

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=48053

    In any case, some people are insecure posers no matter if it's singlespeeds or DH bikes or SUVs or tattoos. And some people are genuine.

    Some people are just really annoying, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Tuesday
    I'm a poser Ken. I don't even like singlespeeding. I just want people to think that I'm cool. I never hesitate to point out that I'm riding a SS so that all the other kids will think that I'm a badas$. To be honest, in my heart, I'm a leg-shaving, weight-weenie, roadie. After I get home from riding my SS, I shower and put on my lance Armstrong halloween mask and full team Discovery kit, put my new carbon Record front derailleur on the digital gram scale (accurate to the milligram) and then masturbate while staring at myself in the mirror. I'm not saying that I'm gay...

    hey, what's wrong with "leg-shaving, weight-weenie, roadies"?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh_on_the_cape
    I dont mean to be a jerk or anything, but dont you have a vanity plate that says 'SNGLSPD'?

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=48053

    In any case, some people are insecure posers no matter if it's singlespeeds or DH bikes or SUVs or tattoos. And some people are genuine.

    Some people are just really annoying, too.

    Take it easy folks! see ya at SSWC05. bring a sticker for my van!

    I thought that was short for "Snuggle Spud"?

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    but then again....

    maybe my avatar and these things are giving the wrong impression?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt
    With your psychedelic wheels I doubt people notice you are on a bike.
    LOL! !
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    Yes and No

    When I first started on one it was more of a big deal to me and I pointed it out to other guys in my race class (the built in "why I went slow" excuse). Turns out I finish in probably the same spot(s) as I would on a gearie, so now the SS is just another bike. I choose SS in any messy race just because I'm lazy and the clean-up is so much easier and equipment damage is minimized.

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    Post amendment...

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Tuesday
    I'm a poser Ken. I don't even like singlespeeding. I just want people to think that I'm cool. I never hesitate to point out that I'm riding a SS so that all the other kids will think that I'm a badas$. To be honest, in my heart, I'm a leg-shaving, weight-weenie, roadie. After I get home from riding my SS, I shower and put on my lance Armstrong halloween mask and full team Discovery kit, put my new carbon Record front derailleur on the digital gram scale (accurate to the milligram) and then masturbate while staring at myself in the mirror. I'm not saying that I'm gay...
    Yeah, my bad. I forgot about you. So if you'll allow me the liberty of revising my post to read:

    With the exception of Frank Tuesday (who embraces an alternative lifestyle [not that there's anything wrong with that]), I can't recall anyone in KC who poses on a SS. With the afore mentioned exception, most people around here just ride their bikes.

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    I feel no need to mention my bike is SS. If they don't notice it, then why bother.

    I am a bit embarassed about the sock though, so I feel the need to point out it is to prevent sunburn to the bits that hang out of my shorts.
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    Yes, I have to admit that I'm very insecure. I always wear a sock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    ...that you are wearing just a sock?
    Shhhhh...
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    guilty as charged

    [QUOTE=jh_on_the_cape]I dont mean to be a jerk or anything, but dont you have a vanity plate that says 'SNGLSPD'?

    This post was as much about myself than any one else.As I said in the original post I have been on both sides.Although I was never a tool about it,more of an ambassador now that everybody and their brother and sisters singlespeeds I have moved on to bigger and better things.
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    [QUOTE Although I was never a tool about it,more of an ambassador [/QUOTE]


    sorry...imho, vanity plate=tool

    and i would say that this goes for any vanity plate, not just yours
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    or would you rather ride it anonomously with nobody including yourself commenting that you ride a SS?
    Me,I have been on both sides but lately I am a little embarrassed to ride a SS,some people won't shut up about them,it's just a fricking bike,get over yourself.

    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.

    What say you?
    Rode last week, caught up with the group in front of me, noticed a few on SS, said "nice to see some SSpers out here", geared guy said "ya they are slowing us down ha ha", they stopped soon after a decent uphill (some of the geared guys walked up it), I rode past and didn't see them again. Riding hell a lot better these days after riding the SS all season, love it... getting a sweeeeet Strong hardtail soon, geared/disc/steel but kinda, in a small way (case Carl is looking at this) wish I never ordered it (prob change once I get it ha). I think I don't care if they know or notice, but fun when you pass em up on the trail and they do notice, kinda a kick in the pants.

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    Interesting parallel? (probably not)

    I liken the "look at me and my gear" fascination to the same phenomenon in music: the guy with the "custom shop" Gibson Les Paul and vintage "class-A" amp who always has to refer to his guitar as his "custom axe" and his amp as his "'64" just in case you forgot in the last five minutes that he's so much cooler than you. In the final analysis, it's all in the fingers. Billy F. Gibbons could make a pawnshop Epiphone sound like a million bucks, while owning Jimi Hendrix's personal Strat won't make a hamfisted amateur sound any better.

    Likewise with bikes. Ride well enough, and no one will know or care what you're pedaling.
    Someone famous said it well enough to warrant repeating: "It's not about the bike."

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    to put it plainly, no one notices and no one cares....I ride alone on trails that I wonder if other bikers even know of....I do it for the simplicity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by paqrat
    There�s this truly obnoxious guy who frequents my local mid-week ride � you know the techno weenie type � full of opinions ready to spout off on all his accomplishments in the past (never the present day), what�s the proper bike setup and what not. His conversations revolve around �me, me, me�.

    He isn�t that good of a rider, and would stop at the top of the hill to adjust tire pressures (coincidentally while he caught his breath). I got the impression he enjoyed being seen on the SS more than riding it.

    With weeks and months rolling by on the mid-week group ride, more started to convert to singlespeeding. All of a sudden, Mr. know-it-all declares his contempt for singlespeeding, as it�s become �too mainstream and everyone and their brother is riding one now�. He�s focused on riding vintage bikes from the late 80�s and early 90�s.

    With Mr. Authority, I felt embarassed and ashamed that schmuck was doing it for popularity points, yet I felt liberated that guy doesn�t represent us anymore. He obviously doesn�t get it.

    Unlike him, I don�t give a **** what others think of me riding SS. Regardless of whatever motives others have for riding SS, I just hope they do it because they enjoy it.
    Have we ridden? Because you seem to be talking about me :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    or would you rather ride it anonomously with nobody including yourself commenting that you ride a SS?
    Me,I have been on both sides but lately I am a little embarrassed to ride a SS,some people won't shut up about them,it's just a fricking bike,get over yourself.

    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.

    What say you?
    Change rigid to fixed and magnify about a hundred times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    My observation is that Single speeders are a tad insecure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    Change rigid to fixed and magnify about a hundred times.
    <a href="http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=923742&postcount=1">Insecurity is hot.</a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by flexiflyer
    <a href="http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=923742&postcount=1">Insecurity is hot.</a>
    Struck a nerve did I ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flexiflyer
    <a href="http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=923742&postcount=1">Insecurity is hot.</a>
    I've re-thought my position. I probably am stereotyping too much, it's just that around here the 3 guys I know who ride fixed gear off road can't shut up about it or have their little band of sycophants who do the talking for them. I know it shouldn't bother me and I should ignore it but man it gets old, maybe I'm just insecure?
    "Do not touch the trim"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    I've re-thought my position. I probably am stereotyping too much, it's just that around here the 3 guys I know who ride fixed gear off road can't shut up about it or have their little band of sycophants who do the talking for them. I know it shouldn't bother me and I should ignore it but man it gets old, maybe I'm just insecure?
    It's OK man, we all have some grating bits in our mental tape loop. Me too. It was unkind of me to even say anything. I should do a better job of practicing what I espouse.

    I understand your point of view though. George Bernard Shaw once said something to the effect of: the most zealous proponents of any movement are the most recent converts. Those cats will calm down if they stick with it.

    Riding fixed on the dirt for the means of short ride A-to-B empirical performance enhancement is total bunk. Same goes for riding skinnies, rim brakes, or whatever. It isn't important anyway. What is liberating though is stepping back and getting off the whirlygig of one-upsmanship that is bicycle "advancement" and not caring about the numbers you're putting down. Just slowing down and riding bikes, going places, checking stuff out, riding silently under the stars, camping in the dirt, not being frustrated or wanting, etc. Fixed is a rad tool for that. Quiet, mellow, and nothing keeps the racer ego we all have sometimes in check better. It has taken me a while to not prick up my ears and attempt chase down someone in front of me every time that occurs. A 54" gear on a flat road or a steep downhill will cure you of that in a big hurry.

    Having it all/the best may seem ideal, but having just enough is real freedom. From pitfalls. From PITA problems. From "forcing" stuff. It's the pedaling equivalent to pickin'-and-grinnin' on the porch. It transcends talk. Just happy action.

    Freedom is also not caring about what others/strangers think. It's not easy but I've never been happier bike riding than I am now. We're all looking for pleasure and happiness, right?

    From the Tao Te Ching:

    Stop thinking, and end all your problems.
    What difference between yes and no?
    What difference between success and failure?
    Must you value what others value,
    avoid what others avoid?
    How ridiculous!


    Best wishes to all,
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    Quote Originally Posted by trial-sin
    sorry...imho, vanity plate=tool

    and i would say that this goes for any vanity plate, not just yours
    Which screams "look at me! i'm a tool!" more....vanity plates or tattoos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flexiflyer
    George Bernard Shaw once said something to the effect of: the most zealous proponents of any movement are the most recent converts. Those cats will calm down if they stick with it.

    Riding fixed on the dirt for the means of short ride A-to-B empirical performance enhancement is total bunk. Same goes for riding skinnies, rim brakes, or whatever. It isn't important anyway. What is liberating though is stepping back and getting off the whirlygig of one-upsmanship that is bicycle "advancement" and not caring about the numbers you're putting down. Just slowing down and riding bikes, going places, checking stuff out, riding silently under the stars, camping in the dirt, not being frustrated or wanting, etc. Fixed is a rad tool for that. Quiet, mellow, and nothing keeps the racer ego we all have sometimes in check better. It has taken me a while to not prick up my ears and attempt chase down someone in front of me every time that occurs. A 54" gear on a flat road or a steep downhill will cure you of that in a big hurry.

    Having it all/the best may seem ideal, but having just enough is real freedom. From pitfalls. From PITA problems. From "forcing" stuff. It's the pedaling equivalent to pickin'-and-grinnin' on the porch. It transcends talk. Just happy action.

    Freedom is also not caring about what others/strangers think. It's not easy but I've never been happier bike riding than I am now. We're all looking for pleasure and happiness, right?

    From the Tao Te Ching:

    Stop thinking, and end all your problems.
    What difference between yes and no?
    What difference between success and failure?
    Must you value what others value,
    avoid what others avoid?
    How ridiculous!


    Best wishes to all,
    mc
    Yeah, what he said. GBS, my wife and I go to the Shaw festival when we're back in WNY. It's held up in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario and features, not only his plays but others from that era as well. Although I'm not really a "theater" type of guy I gotta say I enjoy it.
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    Where we should go,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Which screams "look at me! i'm a tool!" more....vanity plates or tattoos?
    vanity plates...although it's tough for me to compare the art of tattooing, where you can use your skin as a canvas to express whatever you'd like, however introspective or superficial; to the practice of boiling down your own personality to one (or two) vowel-less words, and then pay an extra sum of money to have them beaten onto a metal plate, suitable for framing on your car????
    as a sidenote, the tattoos in my avatar aren't mine, i pirated the photo from oldskooltrack.com, i felt the picture was a good representation of the godspeed, you black emperor!! album title that i use as my signature...sort of a digital tattoo if you will...like your andre avatar...
    ... speaking of avatars, do you think these, or any other online forum, would be as interesting if we used the equivalent of vanity plates instead? hell, there's a whole thread on these little pictures in the passion forum!
    ...but sure, if that was indeed the case, i too would wittle down my own thoughts, beliefs, history, and passions, to one word (and i'd retain one vowel), and that word would be... "cockblcker"
    "lift your skinny fists like antennas to heaven"

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    <---------Yes, avatars can be revealing..

    Quote Originally Posted by roadiegonebad
    maybe my avatar and these things are giving the wrong impression?
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    Especially when due to a mid-life crisis it's tattoed on your leg

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