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    Dawes Deadeye

    Anyone seen or know anything about the Dawes Deadeye?

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    It appears that BIKESDIRECT.COM sells DAWES bikes. DAWES is a UK company so you won't see much of their stuff in north america. If I were you I'd contact bikesdirect and see what they have on it.

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    Saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarth
    Saw it.
    And?
    Fork shape?
    Stock brakes?
    Colors?
    Cranks?
    Gear ratio?
    Inquiring minds want to know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    And?
    Fork shape?
    Stock brakes?
    Colors?
    Cranks?
    Gear ratio?
    Inquiring minds want to know...

    New Cliff 29.1 just went up

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._cliff29_1.htm

    Specs on Deadeye are much like this - but frame is 4130 C/M and brakes are Tektro V-brakes.

    Colors will be BLACK, WHITE, and ORANGE
    I am looking forward to seeing the Orange myself

    I hope these bikes will be in and on site by Dec 24th
    and the price will be $349.95

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    And upon the notice that they are up, there shall be one less 17 Orange.
    If you get a chance, please confirm we can hang Disc Brakes on the Deadeye.
    Thanks Mike.
    Last edited by Plinkomatic; 12-13-2009 at 08:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    And upon the notice that they are up, there shall be one less 17 Orange.
    If you get a chance, please confirm we can hang Disc Brakes on the Deadeye.
    Thanks Mike.

    YES
    mounts for disc brakes front and rear

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect
    YES
    mounts for disc brakes front and rear

    thanks
    ...and the bike comes complete with disc compatible hubs... yes?

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    That new Windsor 29er is just a 08 SE Stout, it's a pretty solid bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    ...and the bike comes complete with disc compatible hubs... yes?

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    probabbly not seeing as the SE stout didnt
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuck_chorris
    probabbly not seeing as the SE stout didnt
    Are you saying the BD site isn't correct? For the Stout, It says "SE Alloy Cassette disc Ready Hub"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    ...and the bike comes complete with disc compatible hubs... yes?

    --Sparty

    That is what the specs say
    but to be honest I have not seen the bike
    and on new products; I never know until I unload the bikes and double check

    I hope to have info up next week

    I really like SS 29ers and hope this is a nice addition to our selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuck_chorris
    probabbly not seeing as the SE stout didnt
    Maybe I should get my eyes checked, because when I put I help put together my friends BD Stout it had disc hubs.

    Those new SS BD offerings are freaking sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob
    Are you saying the BD site isn't correct? For the Stout, It says "SE Alloy Cassette disc Ready Hub"
    hehe opps but would you use the stock hubs ?
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    Waiting sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuck_chorris
    hehe opps but would you use the stock hubs ?
    If not, why would you buy the complete bike?
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    I am not sure that those "Dawes" bikes have anything to do with the UK Dawes Cycles... I will check with my friend who works there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    Anyone seen or know anything about the Dawes Deadeye?

    Latest calculation on Deadeye shows we can sell for $319.95
    should be a super deal for buyers - I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect
    New Cliff 29.1 just went up

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._cliff29_1.htm

    Specs on Deadeye are much like this - but frame is 4130 C/M and brakes are Tektro V-brakes.

    Colors will be BLACK, WHITE, and ORANGE
    I am looking forward to seeing the Orange myself

    I hope these bikes will be in and on site by Dec 24th
    and the price will be $349.95
    That Cliff 29.1 is pretty sweet looking, and for the price.....damn!

    On one hand I'm now really looking forward to seeing this "Deadeye" in white or orange.

    On the other hand, I'm kinda pissed because I just spent $260 on a used bike, parts and tools so I could convert it to SS, but at that price ($349.95) for the Deadeye it almost makes building my own not worth it!

    Edit: AH Crap! LOL! Just saw bike directs updated price! I can't win! LOL!

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    $320! Delivered! WOW.
    HURRY UP!
    Get those badboys on site already! Sheesh.

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    Sizes , a 22 " perhaps ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS
    Sizes , a 22 " perhaps ?

    Sorry
    15, 17, 19, and 21

    but 21 is fairly large on a 29er

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    Thanks .

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    Anytime Mike.... we're ready.
    Brakes, grips and pedals are ordered, let's go go go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    Anytime Mike.... we're ready.
    Brakes, grips and pedals are ordered, let's go go go.

    All up to customers now
    these have sailed, landed, and await clearance by customs

    I hope they bet Christmas; things tend to slow down during the holidays

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    How do the SE Racing Stout, Windsor Cliff 29.1, and Dawes Deadeye compare spec wise? I'm new to Mountain Bikes and the only major difference I can see are the disc brakes on the Windsor. I'm trying to make my decision between those 3 bikes and if anyone has anyone opinions on which one to get, I'm all ears.

    Edit: And how do all three compare to the Redline Monocog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds
    How do the SE Racing Stout, Windsor Cliff 29.1, and Dawes Deadeye compare spec wise? I'm new to Mountain Bikes and the only major difference I can see are the disc brakes on the Windsor. I'm trying to make my decision between those 3 bikes and if anyone has anyone opinions on which one to get, I'm all ears.

    Edit: And how do all three compare to the Redline Monocog?
    Quality of all four bikes is the same

    Spec on Dawes, SE and Windsor are a bit nicer [especailly crank] than Redline

    But all three of these are nice SS 29ers

    Now that we have found a way to lower price to $319; The Deadeye will become the 'deal' bike in the SS 29er area, IMO

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    The Windsor is a great deal to me. The big difference with the Monocog vs. the Cliff is the aluminum frame and disc brakes. The difference in frame materials is over-hyped in my opinion; you will get beat up on either riding ridgid. Some people make it sound like steel is like riding suspension and with the 4130 straight-gauge on the Redline (or the Dawes/SE), you will feel those bumps (trust me, I ride one!). The Redline also has a bit different geometry. I look forward to seeing the Dawes..sounds like a good deal. I don't think the crank is different enough to talk about at this price point and certainly shouldn't be a deal-breaker. Also, cheapie discs aren't going to work much better than cheapie V's.
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    How good are the disc brakes on the Windsor 29.1? Depending on their quality, I might grab the Dawes and replace the brakes with Avid BB7's later down the road. That way I can also get a little hands on experience with the bike as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds
    How good are the disc brakes on the Windsor 29.1? Depending on their quality, I might grab the Dawes and replace the brakes with Avid BB7's later down the road. That way I can also get a little hands on experience with the bike as well.
    At that price there is no way they are nice.
    Thus, I'm getting the steel Dawes with V's that will be replaced with Hydro Discs immediately.
    Figuring out which brakes to get at:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=579332

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds
    How good are the disc brakes on the Windsor 29.1? Depending on their quality, I might grab the Dawes and replace the brakes with Avid BB7's later down the road. That way I can also get a little hands on experience with the bike as well.
    I haven't heard anything too bad about them; certainly no rave reviews either. The Tektro IO has been speced as an entry level disc brake on a bunch of bikes from the big companies too. It wont be as easily adjustable a BB7 and the pad compound probably isn't as good so they could be noisier or fade quicker than better brakes. Riding them will probably make you start saving up towards better brakes, but they will probably also hold up fine until you do buy better brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds
    Depending on their quality, I might grab the Dawes and replace the brakes with Avid BB7's later down the road.
    For the same price as BB7's, you can get hydros on sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect
    I hope these bikes will be in and on site by Dec 24th
    Calendar is marked

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    Chop chop Mike.

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    Hello, long time lurker, first time....

    I am pretty sure I will buy a Dawes Deadeye, unless some other miraculous deal comes along. I would really LOVE to see a tire bigger than 2.1 spec'd on the Dawes, 2.2 at least.

    And to Mike, do you know what the tire clearance is on those frames?

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    Still checking:
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/29r_bikes.htm
    Format changed the other day but still no Deadeye (yet)...

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    Santa?

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    Any update, Mike? Waiting on this to be out before I make a decision.

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    Hmm, maybe he meant Dec 24th, 2010?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut
    Hmm, maybe he meant Dec 24th, 2010?

    Sometimes it seems like that; and of course customs is a bit slow during holidays as are the delivery services

    But at last a few of the Deadeyes gor delivered - in White
    I expect to get Black and Orange ones in either Dec 31st or during first week in January

    here are some pictures of a White one - taken at our warehouse
    the site pictures and listing should be up as soon as we get all versions to Photo
    probably arounf Jan 10th











    I think at $319 this bike will be the best entry 29 SS/FG deal around {but a lot of my guys like the Cliff 29.1 - so that makes to low priced good options}

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    Hmm, I like that it's a dedicated SS frame so the frame is clean with no cable routers.

    One personal hang up for me is the machined rims. I know it's petty, but I hate the look of machined rims on a mountain bike (that will get disks right off the bat anyway).

    It's the same issue with the Se Stout.

    Weird, the Motobecane Outcast which isn't disk brake compatible gets full black rims, while the Se Stout and this Dawes Deadeye that are disk brake compatible get these rims.

    So that's an added expense to buy new wheels (unless one breaks out the blue tape and some black spray paint )

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    I can live with the machined rims , its gonna be a winter bike so a little paint and some disc brakes and its good to go .

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    no quick release on the front wheel?

    Looks good, can't wait to see the other colors too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greeny
    no quick release on the front wheel?

    Looks good, can't wait to see the other colors too...

    Interesting comment

    Would you think buyers would like a disc brake on this type of bike?

    It is funny; on some bikes that we have QR on - buyers do not want it
    and on others where there is none; buyers want one. But on most SS/FG it seems most people expect bolt-ons

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    looks cheap, akin to the original monocog

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect
    Interesting comment

    Would you think buyers would like a disc brake on this type of bike?

    It is funny; on some bikes that we have QR on - buyers do not want it
    and on others where there is none; buyers want one. But on most SS/FG it seems most people expect bolt-ons

    BB 7's would be a good choise , I expect a bike at this price point to have bolt ons .

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    I have a dumb question, can you just put a skewer/quick release on in place of the bolt? Or is the bolt a different size?
    I've only owned bikes with QR's so I don't know anything about the bolts size or how it's "in there".

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadiegonebad
    looks cheap, akin to the original monocog

    It's $319.....shipped. What do you want it to look like?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut
    I have a dumb question, can you just put a skewer/quick release on in place of the bolt? Or is the bolt a different size?
    I've only owned bikes with QR's so I don't know anything about the bolts size or how it's "in there".

    No qr , its a different axle .

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    In.
    Excited.
    Initial changes will include:
    Pedals
    Grips
    Stem
    Saddle
    Disc brakes (after 1-2 rides to de-machine rims).
    Thanks for posting, Mike.
    -P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    In.
    Excited.
    Initial changes will include:
    Pedals
    Grips
    Stem
    Saddle
    Disc brakes (after 1-2 rides to de-machine rims).
    Thanks for posting, Mike.
    -P

    thanks

    I think this will be a 'project' bike for many
    start with nice bike - ride it
    then change a few bits
    then ride it
    then upgrade this and that
    etc

    I expect to see lots of these with disc brakes; suspension forks; custom wheels; diff pedals; etc etc
    But the nice thing is - it is a perfectly servicable and usable SS 29er to start with

    I can not wait to see the Orange

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    Disc brakes (after 1-2 rides to de-machine rims).

    Alright, another dumb question. What does "after 1-2 rides to de-machine the rims" mean?

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    QR in the front is a big help if you have a front fork mount bike rack

    My guess is that anyone else wouldn't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut
    It's $319.....shipped. What do you want it to look like?????


    point is, it IS cheap. no need to (falsely) make it out to be anything more

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    Still trying to make my decision. How does the frame of the Deadeye compare to the frame of the Windsor 29.1? Any major difference, or are they both pretty similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds
    Still trying to make my decision. How does the frame of the Deadeye compare to the frame of the Windsor 29.1? Any major difference, or are they both pretty similar?
    I really like both
    but Deadeye will be a bit more comfy [more flex]
    and Cliff 29.1 will be a bit quicker [stiffer]

    Cliff 29.1 looks very expensive in person
    however, I have not seen Deadeye in person ~~ I think it looks good in pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds
    Still trying to make my decision. How does the frame of the Deadeye compare to the frame of the Windsor 29.1? Any major difference, or are they both pretty similar?
    I really like both
    but Deadeye will be a bit more comfy [more flex]
    and Cliff 29.1 will be a bit quicker [stiffer]

    Cliff 29.1 looks very expensive in person
    however, I have not seen Deadeye in person -

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut
    Alright, another dumb question. What does "after 1-2 rides to de-machine the rims" mean?

    The rim brakes will smooth out the machine marks in the brake tracks of the rims .

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    [QUOTE=boomn]I haven't heard anything too bad about them; certainly no rave reviews either. The Tektro IO has been speced as an entry level disc brake on a bunch of bikes from the big companies too. It wont be as easily adjustable a BB7 and the pad compound probably isn't as good so they could be noisier or fade quicker than better brakes. Riding them will probably make you start saving up towards better brakes, but they will probably also hold up fine until you do buy better brakes[/QUOTE

    My main ride is my Iron Horse 26er and it came stock with the Tekto IO's...been riding the crap out of it for 2 years now on N. Cal. trails about 3-4 times a week and still waiting for them to break or wear out...they just keep going. At 210, I can get them pretty hot on a big downhill but they still do their job with little to no maintenance..for cheapies they work darn well.

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    Mike, I was looking at the size specs for the Windsor Cliff 29.1 and they are in metric I assume. Do you have specs in inches? I'm assuming those numbers are in milimeters? I can do a conversion, but I want to order the correct frame size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    In.
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    Initial changes will include:
    Pedals
    Grips
    Stem
    Saddle
    Disc brakes (after 1-2 rides to de-machine rims).
    Thanks for posting, Mike.
    -P
    so that would be another $319 on parts upgrades..
    everything sucks but my vacuum cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishcreek
    so that would be another $319 on parts upgrades..
    from EBay, Performance or elsewhere:
    Pedals = $25
    Grips = Already have (Ergons)
    Stem = ~$30 (lots on chainlove.com and bonktown.com)
    Saddle = $30 EBay
    Disc brakes (after 1-2 rides to de-machine rims) = $160

    So, yeah, another $~300 but I'll have key elements: frame, fork, wheelset, tires, seatpost, etc.
    Still is way less than any of the Rigid SS 29er's I've seen with comparable parts and the variable items (above) will be exactly the ones I like.
    Plus the value add of putting work in and making it what I want.
    Been plowing through the Zinn books too, looking forward to applying lessons learned.

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    Plus you can make a little of that back when you sell the original parts on CL/Ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveOak
    Mike, I was looking at the size specs for the Windsor Cliff 29.1 and they are in metric I assume. Do you have specs in inches? I'm assuming those numbers are in milimeters? I can do a conversion, but I want to order the correct frame size.
    I am unsure which spec you are looking at - geo specs are all metric
    you can find the spec in inches by dividing by 25.4 generally
    but for sizing if you PM me or email Chris at bd4salesteam@aol.com
    we can help you pick the correct size

    Chris sizes hundreds of people a week and is very good at it

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    Mike,could you tell me if there is going to be any stickers or logos applied? I really don't like loud graphics and designs on my bikes. If this is plain;sign me up for one today. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindWithMe
    Mike,could you tell me if there is going to be any stickers or logos applied? I really don't like loud graphics and designs on my bikes. If this is plain;sign me up for one today. Thanks.

    HT decal only
    the rest is a clean frame

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    -> waiting.

    Looking forward to it being on site...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    -> waiting.

    Looking forward to it being on site...

    BLACK ONE JUST PHOTOED IN OFFICE and is now posted
    all colors now in gallery pictures

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawes/deadeye.htm
    Last edited by bikesdirect; 01-09-2010 at 05:02 AM.

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    Thank you, Mike. Just found my new bike.

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    Hmm, may have to get one of those to send to my parents' house in the northeast for something to ride when I'm visiting home...

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    Hmm... I have some Juicy Ultimates and a Truvativ made Bonty RXL crank waiting for this bike I think. I might just buy one for my girlfriend too.

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    Orange 17" ordered.
    Oh yeah, it's on.

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    Can I get a quick opinion from some of you? I am looking at both the Dawes and the Windsor Cliff. The main differences seem to be the aluminum frame on the Windsor as well as the disc brakes on the Windsor. This is my first foray into a mountain bike, and I have been researching for months. These both seem to be very good entry level bikes for the price. I will be biking around town mainly, but the streets in my area are notoriously bad, so it's almost like a mountain trail. What is the relative merit of the aluminum frame over the cro-mo frame or vice versa? Every LBS I've visited tells me cro-mo is obsolete, no one uses it, and that everything is aluminum.

    If I got the Dawes, I would quickly put on a pair of discs which would bring me comparable or maybe a bit more than the Windsor Cliff. Should I just get the Windsor Cliff or would there be some benefit to having the cro-mo frame for some fairly rough urban streets?

    BTW, I am about 225 lbs. and dropping if that makes any difference.

    Thanks for any responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    Orange 17" ordered.
    Oh yeah, it's on.

    Sight unseen? Or are there some orange pics around that I haven't seen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut
    Sight unseen? Or are there some orange pics around that I haven't seen?
    Unseen.
    Hoping fork is orange too but not a dealbreaker.
    Kool Stop tectonics and Crank Brothers Quattros and it's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveOak
    Can I get a quick opinion from some of you? I am looking at both the Dawes and the Windsor Cliff. The main differences seem to be the aluminum frame on the Windsor as well as the disc brakes on the Windsor. This is my first foray into a mountain bike, and I have been researching for months. These both seem to be very good entry level bikes for the price. I will be biking around town mainly, but the streets in my area are notoriously bad, so it's almost like a mountain trail. What is the relative merit of the aluminum frame over the cro-mo frame or vice versa? Every LBS I've visited tells me cro-mo is obsolete, no one uses it, and that everything is aluminum.

    If I got the Dawes, I would quickly put on a pair of discs which would bring me comparable or maybe a bit more than the Windsor Cliff. Should I just get the Windsor Cliff or would there be some benefit to having the cro-mo frame for some fairly rough urban streets?

    BTW, I am about 225 lbs. and dropping if that makes any difference.

    Thanks for any responses.
    FWIW , I think that in your case steel would be a good choise , a little more compliant ride quality .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveOak
    Can I get a quick opinion from some of you? I am looking at both the Dawes and the Windsor Cliff. The main differences seem to be the aluminum frame on the Windsor as well as the disc brakes on the Windsor. This is my first foray into a mountain bike, and I have been researching for months. These both seem to be very good entry level bikes for the price. I will be biking around town mainly, but the streets in my area are notoriously bad, so it's almost like a mountain trail. What is the relative merit of the aluminum frame over the cro-mo frame or vice versa? Every LBS I've visited tells me cro-mo is obsolete, no one uses it, and that everything is aluminum.

    If I got the Dawes, I would quickly put on a pair of discs which would bring me comparable or maybe a bit more than the Windsor Cliff. Should I just get the Windsor Cliff or would there be some benefit to having the cro-mo frame for some fairly rough urban streets?

    BTW, I am about 225 lbs. and dropping if that makes any difference.

    Thanks for any responses.
    aluminum is generally lighter, but steel does everything else better

    It always depends on how the frame was designed. Either material can be used to make frames with a variety of characteristics and ranging from fragile to bombproof. Also, everyone notices different things about frame and some people might never notice a difference and some could accurately tell you blind-folded

    to make some very general statements though:
    aluminum:
    *lighter than steel
    *stiffer in good ways that don't waste your energy by flexing side to side
    *stiffer in bad ways... it transmits more vibration from the trail to the rider and doesn't do much to absorb bumps. Road bike riders are especially aware of this because the tiny tires and lack of suspension make it more noticeable. A steel fork and high volume tires go a long way to reduce this though

    steel:
    *a bit heavier
    *absorbs more vibration and does a better job taking the edge off of bumps. It feels less harsh. However cheaper steel frames are usually overbuilt and will have less of this effect than a nicer steel frame.

    Personally I prefer steel. I moved all my parts over from an aluminum frame to a steel frame and it felt like being punched by someone with a leather glove on instead of bare knuckles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    Unseen.
    Hoping fork is orange too but not a dealbreaker.
    Kool Stop tectonics and Crank Brothers Quattros and it's done.
    Good news for you!. I really like the look, even if Surly did it first with the 1x1

    I don't remember seeing that link an hour ago. I don't think they are done building the page yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveOak
    Can I get a quick opinion from some of you? I am looking at both the Dawes and the Windsor Cliff. The main differences seem to be the aluminum frame on the Windsor as well as the disc brakes on the Windsor. This is my first foray into a mountain bike, and I have been researching for months. These both seem to be very good entry level bikes for the price. I will be biking around town mainly, but the streets in my area are notoriously bad, so it's almost like a mountain trail. What is the relative merit of the aluminum frame over the cro-mo frame or vice versa? Every LBS I've visited tells me cro-mo is obsolete, no one uses it, and that everything is aluminum.

    If I got the Dawes, I would quickly put on a pair of discs which would bring me comparable or maybe a bit more than the Windsor Cliff. Should I just get the Windsor Cliff or would there be some benefit to having the cro-mo frame for some fairly rough urban streets?

    BTW, I am about 225 lbs. and dropping if that makes any difference.

    Thanks for any responses.

    You need new LBSs to visit - LOL

    Chrome-moly has never been bad and is becoming more popular today

    I think you would love either bike
    but the difference you will find is a bit smoother ride on the Deadeye

    I can teel you; when they built a sample in the warehouse
    Everyone started asking about getting one for themselves
    AND when the 3 samples showed up at the office to be photoed
    Everyone started asking about getting one for themselves [even the girls that normally ride street stuff only]

    Deadeye will be a very popular bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
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    Hoping fork is orange too but not a dealbreaker.
    Kool Stop tectonics and Crank Brothers Quattros and it's done.
    ORANGE iis solid orange
    and you will LOVE it

    OMG - it is hot
    everyone in office went nuts over the Orange one

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    Dude those bikes are the same freaking things.... the bikes are spec'd almost exactly the same and look almost identical too. Wish I had the money to get on e of these chromos.... guess ill ride my alum stout for now

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    Mike, one more question (thanks for the other replies). Are both the front and rear wheels on the Deadeye disc ready? Would it be a simple matter to just throw on front and rear discs? Sorry for the newbie questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveOak
    Mike, one more question (thanks for the other replies). Are both the front and rear wheels on the Deadeye disc ready? Would it be a simple matter to just throw on front and rear discs? Sorry for the newbie questions.

    Thanks for the question
    YES - both hubs are disc ready

    You can bolt on mech disc and not even need new levers; just disc brakes and the realted small parts

    OR of course; hyd disc could be added if you like also

    one reason I really love this bike is that I know lots of people will get one; ride it a lot; and then 'personalize' it and ride it more

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    if the funds call for it, i will have to order me one of theses dawes deadeyes.

    Im contimplating which color i would go with, as i really do like the low profile look, but then again i will transfer my bb7's on my current set up to the dawes, which will defeat the purpose of low profile.

    the orange reminds me of a surly 1x1, i like that color.

    does this bike have a derailleaur dropout?

    cool bikes, thanks for reading this nonsense

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    Yes , it can be run geared .

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    thanks for the quick reply, i was thinking of a 1/9 setup as this will be my 2nd bike

    im going to try to do it right with this bike

    my 1st bike...oh my word...basically its a piece of crap with gold glitter sprinkled on it and i can not afford to thrown anymore cash at a bike that will never satisfy me, now this bike, this has everything i need
    THANKSOMUCH bikes driect

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    Dawes 2 Alloy Riser Bar, 25.5 Wide, 31.8mm
    Narrow bars for a ss

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    Anyone actually get and ride Deadeye yet?

    I am looking for a comparison to the Monocog as that is looking like the bike of choice for PA winter riding and there are some great deals on ebay.

    The 2 most important things would be handling, ridgid fork, and weight. I'm not expecting this to be a light bike by any means, but hope it is about the same as the Cog...

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    I have the aluminum SE, and I can say if is worth every penny. That being said if I were to need a new bike right now. I wouldnt hesitate to buy the Dawes, the price on it is soo cheap that u can afford any parts changes as needed.



    Edit: also my alum framed bike came specs almost identical to the specs on the Dawes and stout on the bs site and i loved it from first ride

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    I received a Dawes today. It is orange and XL. Looks good, but had a few paint chips on the edges of disc brake mounts and dropouts. I am not building it as it came, but the frame is pretty close to the weight of my Monocog. I'm guessing it would be about the same weight built since the components are pretty similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruppster
    I received a Dawes today. It is orange and XL. Looks good, but had a few paint chips on the edges of disc brake mounts and dropouts. I am not building it as it came, but the frame is pretty close to the weight of my Monocog. I'm guessing it would be about the same weight built since the components are pretty similar.
    Cool! Pics? (yeah, I know there are pics on the BS site, but real world pics are better )

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    Are these really 36 hole rims/hubs as site says or are they 32H? The rear hub is SS specific or? Looks like kinda lot of spacers behind the rear cog or is it just the pics?
    Get off the couch and ride!

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    36 hole non ss specific, they have a shimano type hub.... u can put a cassette on it. there are spacers with a ss ring

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    Got mine yesterday.
    Orange 17'
    Biggest problem is it's so beautiful and almost every part is so good there's no tinkering, just charging. It's perhaps the most beautiful bike I've ever seen. An odd statement... but seriously, it's gorgeous. Stunning. Shockingly wonderful.
    Box was pretty roughed up (taped closed) but bike was fine other than visibly out of true rims that are going to need some work. The Galaxy Steel I got came in a box that looked untouched FWIW.
    I'm not rolling it out until I true the rims it but I put some Kool Stop pads on the current brakes and unless they really underperform I doubt I'll spring for discs.
    Was wondering what stem/handlebar I'd put on it but the stock rig is actually great.
    The few stickers came right off and it's a perfectly naked, brand free bike (huge +).
    The stock grips are pretty nice but I but Ergons on it (small) as I had them around.
    The pedals are nice Wellgo platforms. I want to get something with SPD's, thinking about CrankBros Mallet 2's in Red but am going to ride it stock for a while.
    Took me all of 15 minutes to get the geometry feeling really, really good. I mean like locked in, extension of my body good. I'm 5'8" with 30" inseam and the 17 is a great fit.
    Won't be able to spend the time on the rims until tomorrow (dang day job...) but as soon as it's mountain ready I'll be charging and will report.
    The color is "caution orange." Very pimp yet tasteful. It's beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricot83
    36 hole non ss specific, they have a shimano type hub.... u can put a cassette on it. there are spacers with a ss ring
    Thanks...I'd prefer SS specific.
    Get off the couch and ride!

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    pics of the orange?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssm-gd3
    pics of the orange?

    Here are gallery pictures of Orange

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...e_org_gallery/

    Here are gallery pictures of White

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...e_wht_gallery/

    Here are gallery pictures of Black

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...e_blk_gallery/

    Nice thing about gallery pictures is that you can see all details of the bike

    This bike is selling like crazy already; and the Orange has been very popular

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinkomatic
    Got mine yesterday.
    Orange 17'
    Biggest problem is it's so beautiful and almost every part is so good there's no tinkering, just charging. It's perhaps the most beautiful bike I've ever seen. An odd statement... but seriously, it's gorgeous. Stunning. Shockingly wonderful.
    Box was pretty roughed up (taped closed) but bike was fine other than visibly out of true rims that are going to need some work. The Galaxy Steel I got came in a box that looked untouched FWIW.
    I'm not rolling it out until I true the rims it but I put some Kool Stop pads on the current brakes and unless they really underperform I doubt I'll spring for discs.
    Was wondering what stem/handlebar I'd put on it but the stock rig is actually great.
    The few stickers came right off and it's a perfectly naked, brand free bike (huge +).
    The stock grips are pretty nice but I but Ergons on it (small) as I had them around.
    The pedals are nice Wellgo platforms. I want to get something with SPD's, thinking about CrankBros Mallet 2's in Red but am going to ride it stock for a while.
    Took me all of 15 minutes to get the geometry feeling really, really good. I mean like locked in, extension of my body good. I'm 5'8" with 30" inseam and the 17 is a great fit.
    Won't be able to spend the time on the rims until tomorrow (dang day job...) but as soon as it's mountain ready I'll be charging and will report.
    The color is "caution orange." Very pimp yet tasteful. It's beautiful.

    THANKS
    I am glad you love it
    I felt the same way - the bike is insanely nice especially for $319 delivered

    I hope you post pictures after riding it a bit
    or even action shots

    thanks again
    have fun

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    Got mine built up this morning. Specs:
    Orange 21" - The color is great, definitely fluorescent orange!
    Nexus 3 speed hub/generic disc wheel rear (I know, not a singlespeed, but I have one)
    Generic (joytech-ish) hub/wheel front
    Bontrager Big Sweep bar
    Avid Speed Dial levers
    Avid BB7s - 160mm rotors
    WTB Rocket V saddle
    Carbon wrapped aluminum seatpost
    Stock crankset
    I built it up with parts I had laying around from upgrades to other bikes. The stock parts seem beefy, right in line with expectations. The only problem I had was the rear disc mount took some work with a Dremel tool to square up. It may have been mainly paint, but it was canted to the inside a bit. If a shop faces the mount, you'll be fine. The headset is a bit tight, but is "breaking in" already. I also had to smooth the tensioner with a file to get it to slide in the dropout. I will likely change out the tensioner for a regular BMX type (personal preference), but the tensioner/derailleur setup looks like it would work fabulously. Overall, I'd say it is on par with a Monocog (I have one of those, too) only priced better . A great price for a solid bike.

    A couple of pics:




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    Ruppster, it's a beauty. Please elaborate on the Nexus hub...3 spd internal, correct? What are the ratios? Ease of install? Approx. cost to rebuild hub? Did you build up from the stock wheel it came with? many thanks!
    I like big bars and I cannot lie

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