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    Conveting to SS.

    Alright, so i've been thinking about making the Hardrock an SS, seeing how i never really shift anyways, and i'm not happy with the POS derailleurs on it that keep mishifting and misaligning. What do I have to buy exactly?
    I've been looking at this:
    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/134...ersion-Kit.htm
    Is this any good? Will it fit on my hub?
    And do i need a chain tensioner? I'm thinking about skipping out on that for now and adding that on later, and maybe using a ghost ring (I think that's what it's called) till i buy the tensioner.
    And i can use the old brake levers, right? Because they're integrated into the shifters. POS Shimano things.
    Or will this Atomlab be better?
    http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp...=55&brand=1016
    I'll be using the 32t ring in the front, just the old middle chainring.
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    Yup

    The conversion kit & a tensioner should do it. Skipping the tensioner is a matter of luck. It depnds on the bike geometry & the cog sizes you use. Now way could I get my setup to work w/o a tensioner. Skip the spring loaded ones. Beats me how anyone can use one & not have skipping. Rennen & On-one make em.

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    What do you guys think about this tensioner?
    http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp...310&brand=1021

    I'm trying to do this as cheap as possible.
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    Cheap as possible would be using your current rear derailleur as the tensioner.

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    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...eid=&pagename=
    I ordered one of these it seems cheap for every thing, if the tensoner is bad I can always get something better the spacers are that alone at other sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeymankw
    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...eid=&pagename=
    I ordered one of these it seems cheap for every thing, if the tensoner is bad I can always get something better the spacers are that alone at other sites.
    Thanks so much. That's a great deal.
    Only other thing i need now is a SRAM single speed chain. My chain is rusted and shot.
    thanks a lot.
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    Ok, i have another question. I removed the 3rd chainring, but the bolts that i took off of the 3rd chainring also bolt onto the second chainring. So, without the big ring, the bolts are a bit too big, and the 2nd chainring is a little wobbly. Is this ok? Should i try to put some washers on too?
    thanks.
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    Either washers (booo) or just get some single-ring bolts. Danscomp.com has them for $4 a set, or hit your local BMX-rich bike shop.

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    Add a bashguard is another option if you want to use your existing bolts. The 6mm bolts are sometimes not the easiest to find at many bikeshops unfortunately. I lost some the other day and after visiting two stores, had to add them to an online order I had in the works. If it happens again, I'll just get a bashguard so I won't have to worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar
    Add a bashguard is another option if you want to use your existing bolts. The 6mm bolts are sometimes not the easiest to find at many bikeshops unfortunately. I lost some the other day and after visiting two stores, had to add them to an online order I had in the works. If it happens again, I'll just get a bashguard so I won't have to worry about it.
    Yeah, i was thinking about getting a bashguard instead, but until i do, i'll put some washers on.
    Do i have to pull the crank off to get the smallest chainring off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raghavan
    Yeah, i was thinking about getting a bashguard instead, but until i do, i'll put some washers on.
    Do i have to pull the crank off to get the smallest chainring off?
    No, you can also cut it off with a hacksaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenK
    No, you can also cut it off with a hacksaw.
    Are you being sarcastic?
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    its not sarcastic if its a viable option, it is however very drastic means for acomplishing such trivial thing

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    I'm going to ask at the LBS what to do to get it off.
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    My cranks are of the "self extracting" type, all I had to do was get a large 10mm allen and unscrew the crank arm to get the smallest ring off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezw0rkz
    My cranks are of the "self extracting" type, all I had to do was get a large 10mm allen and unscrew the crank arm to get the smallest ring off.
    i tried to turn the allen wrench, but it won't budge at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raghavan
    i tried to turn the allen wrench, but it won't budge at all.
    They can be a b$tch especially if you have not had it apart before.
    Try sliding a length of pipe over the wrench for more leverage-
    Or give it a whack with a mallet.
    It might be helpful to have something to hold the other crankarm with.....maybe find a buddy to help out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by upstatesspdr
    They can be a b$tch especially if you have not had it apart before.
    Try sliding a length of pipe over the wrench for more leverage-
    Or give it a whack with a mallet.
    It might be helpful to have something to hold the other crankarm with.....maybe find a buddy to help out .
    So it'll pop out with the allen wrench?
    Then what's the crank remover for?

    monkeymankw, any luck with the nashbar kit?
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    Maybe i misunderstood, i thought you couldn't get the bolt loose?

    Once the bolt is out,thread the crank puller into the crankarm where the bolt was-this will pull the crankarm from the BB spindle

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    Hmm... I need a crank puller now.
    Damn.
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    I hope that kit will fit my bike. Do you guys think so???
    It says "will fit almost any modern bike".
    I'm hoping my bike will be one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raghavan
    I hope that kit will fit my bike. Do you guys think so???
    It says "will fit almost any modern bike".
    I'm hoping my bike will be one of those.
    Anyone??? I want to buy this kit today.
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    Your Specialized is a modern bike

    Technically anyway, the kit should fit. You'll need some basic tools to do the work yourself, Allen wrenches, a crank puller, cassette tool, and chain whip come to mind. The good thing about the tools is, you'll have them for life and as you get more into it, you'll have the things you need to make it work.
    Stock up on zip ties, a lot of times the tensioner will need to be held up against the chainstay to provide enough tension to keep the chain tight. This is espcially true of the springloaded tensioners like Surly etc..
    Words of caution, using a gusset type single speed adapter might cause problems with chainline, that being said, I've used on on four different bikes and never had an issue with it.
    I completely agree with the guy who said read the SS Faq pages, they've got a lot of great info on conversions, gear ratios etc.
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    I have used the Nashbar kit, you get what you pay for.....
    Nothing fancy but it works fine.
    It has the advantage of multiple spacers to fine tune the chainline which the Gusset does not.
    What the previous guy said about the zip ties is good advice, also make your chain as short as possible .
    Mine was skipping when i put the power to it, plus it will stretch some.
    I had to go back and take a link out after the first ride with some real hills.

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    Alright, i asked nashbar, and they said it'll fit. I'm going to order it today.
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