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    Calling all G.U.S.S owners....

    Hello all,
    After grilling every SS rider I see at the LBS or on the LTS, lurking on this board for a month and taking a few rides on my (geared) bike without shifting...I am going to get my first SS. I am thinking it will be a Bianchi G.U.S.S. (an aside: I am also thinking about getting a Rig, but I am only 5'8" and am worried I am too short for a 29er, but that will be the subject of another post...)
    It fits me well, it is light, the spec seems really good for the money, and it rides like a rocket (granted, this is around the parking lot of the LBS). My only concern is with switching to aluminium, as I have been riding the same silky smooth steel Stumpjumper Comp since about '93 (with all the components upgraded, a couple of times since then, mind you).
    So, G.U.S.S owners, please share your thoughts/feelings on your rides. Do you love it, hate or are you oddly ambivalent?
    And, non-G.U.S.S. owner, feel free to chime in!

    Thank you!

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    Keep the Specialized

    Spend the money on a nice wheel set and cranks. Even a better fork to make your old girl new again. GUSS isn't that nice and your old Spec is.....
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    D.i.s.s

    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Hello all,
    After grilling every SS rider I see at the LBS or on the LTS, lurking on this board for a month and taking a few rides on my (geared) bike without shifting...I am going to get my first SS. I am thinking it will be a Bianchi G.U.S.S. (an aside: I am also thinking about getting a Rig, but I am only 5'8" and am worried I am too short for a 29er, but that will be the subject of another post...)
    It fits me well, it is light, the spec seems really good for the money, and it rides like a rocket (granted, this is around the parking lot of the LBS). My only concern is with switching to aluminium, as I have been riding the same silky smooth steel Stumpjumper Comp since about '93 (with all the components upgraded, a couple of times since then, mind you).
    So, G.U.S.S owners, please share your thoughts/feelings on your rides. Do you love it, hate or are you oddly ambivalent?
    And, non-G.U.S.S. owner, feel free to chime in!

    Thank you!
    I ride a DISS, which is exactly the same frame as the GUSS, I love the bike.
    I did change out everything on the bike. For a aluminum frame it rides great, great geometry for a inexpensive hardtail. It comes highly recommended from me.

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    Good job! Amen to that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutarious
    Spend the money on a nice wheel set and cranks. Even a better fork to make your old girl new again. GUSS isn't that nice and your old Spec is.....

    I wanted a bianchi but current financial status prevents me from owning one, but settled for a used Specialized Stumpjumper converted to a single speed from ebay instead. i received the bike already converted, nothing special, parts just removed (shifters, cables, chainrings) plus the addition of conversion cog, singleator, and a SID fork. to my surprise, the bike is awesome and light (tips my bathroom scale at 21.5 lbs without pedals) . only thing i changed is the flat handlebar and went to a 28 inch riser for better leverage, and everything is perfect. try that out with your ride (you can always put your components back on if you don't like it) and see if you'd really like the SS'ing experience. if you do, move on to a bike of your liking, if you don't, put everything back as it was - nothing lost. good luck.

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    Must fight urge to buy new bike...

    Thanks to everyone for the comments.
    I am slightly surprised to have not heard from any current GUSS owners. I wonder why...
    (Jeff Hurricane: thanks for the thoughts on the DISS)
    I am beginning to lean towards converting the old Stump to a SS, unless the LBS makes me an offer on the GUSS that I can't refuse.

    Follow up question for Lutarious...why do you think the GUSS isn't that nice? I haven't done *too* much pricing research, but it seems that it would be difficult to build up a comparable spec for the same price. That is with keeping a similarly priced frame in the mix, of course. Or are you refering to the frame as the week point in the mix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Hurricane
    I ride a DISS, which is exactly the same frame as the GUSS, I love the bike.
    I did change out everything on the bike. For a aluminum frame it rides great, great geometry for a inexpensive hardtail. It comes highly recommended from me.
    I ride a BUSS and dig it. There is no way I could have built a bike for the price I paid. Nicest ride out there, nope. I'll tell ya though, it seems like a rocket to me...

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    is your stumpjumper ole enough to have semi-horizontal dropouts? if so you got a b1tchin steel singlespeed conversion with no tensioner needed. why look for another bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by max-a-mill
    is your stumpjumper ole enough to have semi-horizontal dropouts? if so you got a b1tchin steel singlespeed conversion with no tensioner needed. why look for another bike?
    Unfortunately, it's got vertical dropouts. Thinking about the Rennen Rollenlager for a tensioner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Gladiator
    I wanted a bianchi but current financial status prevents me from owning one, but settled for a used Specialized Stumpjumper converted to a single speed from ebay instead. i received the bike already converted, nothing special, parts just removed (shifters, cables, chainrings) plus the addition of conversion cog, singleator, and a SID fork. to my surprise, the bike is awesome and light (tips my bathroom scale at 21.5 lbs without pedals) . only thing i changed is the flat handlebar and went to a 28 inch riser for better leverage, and everything is perfect. try that out with your ride (you can always put your components back on if you don't like it) and see if you'd really like the SS'ing experience. if you do, move on to a bike of your liking, if you don't, put everything back as it was - nothing lost. good luck.
    21.5 lbs? Nice! Is it a steel frame?
    And not to hijack my own thread...but what year SID? How is the Singleleator working out? I am leaning more toward the Rennen Rollenlager.

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    I rode a CUSS for 3 years...loved it, light, fast, agile. I just built up a Sycip SS 29er (Reynolds 853), I will never go back to aluminum again, the feel of the steel is way better than the aluminum imo. The Bianchi is a great bike but I prefer the way the steel rides...hands down.

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    Bianchi SS bikes are nice...

    Probably not too many replies from GUSS owners because they are the newest model, but they are similar to all of Bianchi's previous SS offerings. I have a BUSS and my wife has a SISS. They are both really nice, particularly for the money. You can go cheaper, but most bikes that cost less tend to have a bit of a generic feel IMO.

    I like how light my aluminum frame is. Bike is under 2o.5 pounds and super fast. Could be around 19 if I weenied it out.

    Aluminum vs. Steel? Whatever. Ride big puffy tires and they all feel good.

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    Stick with the Stumpy.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Unfortunately, it's got vertical dropouts. Thinking about the Rennen Rollenlager for a tensioner.
    My brother-in-law had a steel S-Works Stumpjumper, and it was SO fine. Someone smashed a window of his Escort in front of our Baltimore rowhouse, and swiped the bike out of the back seat. We cried.

    The Rennen rollenlager is one hot piece of kit! I have one that I use with a spaced-out cassette body hub and a Shimano DX cog on my 29er SS. I have ridden several hundred miles with no troubles.

    Also, the White Industries ENO eccentric hub is a great invention. It costs more than a Rennen tensioner, and it is probably worth more. Check it.
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    Follow up question for Lutarious...why do you think the GUSS isn't that nice? I haven't done *too* much pricing research, but it seems that it would be difficult to build up a comparable spec for the same price. That is with keeping a similarly priced frame in the mix, of course. Or are you refering to the frame as the week point in the mix?[/QUOTE]

    I'm a fan of steel frames, and I have two friends now who are super happy on their old Stumpjumpers. It just seems like a good quality steel frame where a GUSS might be a more budget minder frame in Aluminum. the Single Speed experience is all about getting back to the basics. Frame feel, ride quality is everything. I would take the heavy, sweet ride in steel over a tight fast Aluminum any day....

    That Sais, my girlfriend rides a SISS, steel Bianchi frame, rigid fork with Mutanoraptor 2.4's. She's light and only uses like 15-20 pounds of air, so it acts like suspension for her. She loves it, and rides the wheels off the poor thing.....
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    BOSS owner here!

    Judge- I have ridden an aluminum bike for years and then saw the BOSS on the classifieds here for a song. So I bought yet another aluminum bike. It literally changed my riding from geared to SS in one ride...thousands of dollars into my old bike and it's collecting dust in the garage. That was two summers ago. After reading this board for years and knowing I love the SS thing I was on a hunt for a steel frame. This season I found a Trek 990 on ebay...awesome! I did the ENO hub (thanks Ernesto!) and many other fun things to bling up an old frame. This bike is sweet, the ride quality is excellent. Most of the parts were a direct transfer from the BOSS so I was able to make a good comparison of frame material and ride quality. I prefer the steel...I'm not breaking any ground here.

    What the heck am I getting at? I would put some dollars into your Stumpjumper...you know you like the geometry! As far as a tensioner, I would go with the Rennen at a minimum and shoot for a ENO hub to rid yourself of tensioning issues. Don't spend your money on any of those "cheaper singulator ripoffs"

    Let us know what you decide and post some pics when you are done.
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    I have a DISS and I really like the frame, it's light, responsive and has good geometry. It's an XC ride, so it's not built for big drops or anything, but it still has been very durable for the last few years. And Bianchi, unlike some other manufacturers, knows how to build a proper SS frame (with the exception of the chainstay breaking with their SISS a few years back). My DISS has horizontal dropouts that are longer than on my Chameleon, which gives more room for adjustability. The DISS also has very roomy chainstays that (a) accommodate fatty's (like the stock 2.3 Mutanos) while (b) also allowing full wheel movement fore and aft in the dropouts with those same fat tires (which my Chameleon will not). The disc brake caliper mount also has slots on it as opposed to simple holes. This is important because it lets you dial the caliper position in perfectly even if the wheel is all the way forward or all the way rearward in the dropouts. So all in all, I've found that the DISS frame is a truly refined and well thought out SS platform, unlike some others I've seen. Plus they're very reasonbly priced, so I would definitely recommend it if you're looking to take the plunge.


    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    So, G.U.S.S owners, please share your thoughts/feelings on your rides. Do you love it, hate or are you oddly ambivalent?Thank you!
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    ... and if we just ... yeah, not bad for an old steel frame bike!

    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    21.5 lbs? Nice! Is it a steel frame?
    And not to hijack my own thread...but what year SID? How is the Singleleator working out? I am leaning more toward the Rennen Rollenlager.


    yes, a steel frame. as far as the year for SID, i am not sure, but it's got to be one of the older ones (i got the bike with it on, so..). i'm also using Rolf Propels wheelset with IRC mythos tires which seem to help keep the weight down. i have posted my issues with the singleator, i just don't like the way they look (although they work fine - don't wanna start anything with people who don't have a problem with it, really, i don't ), that's why i removed mine. i found that keeping the 32t chainring and replacing the rear with an 18t cog, i was able to get the right tension, and it gave my bike a nice clean SS look. however, if i decide to go with a 20t cog (damn it, some of the climbs are tough even my riding buddies are having a hard time on their full squishy gearies), i know i'll have to use the tensioner. not familiar with the Rennen Rollenlager though. do your thing and keep us posted. i really like the stumpjumper now that i have one in my possession. i like the geometry, the light weight, and if you try to set yours up, i'm sure you'll find a new flame burning within. happy SS'ing!

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    semi-horizontal dropouts?

    Quote Originally Posted by max-a-mill
    is your stumpjumper ole enough to have semi-horizontal dropouts? if so you got a b1tchin steel singlespeed conversion with no tensioner needed. why look for another bike?
    I was mistaken about the Stump having vertical dropouts. Are these the semi-horizontal dropouts of which you speak? Think I can get away without a tensioner? One way to find out, I guess...
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    i defer to the experts but i say go for it.....looks like room to play from that picture

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    Philosophical Differences

    Other than all the great thoughts about Bianchi SS's and the good advice on getting into SSing, this thread seems to encapsulate some of the philosophical differences between SSer's.
    The really prevelant differences seem to be...steel vs aluminium and new SS bike vs converting old MTB into a SS. You guys probably know all this, but I want to flesh it out some of this for my own thought processes.

    So...(and I know I am probably over simplifying...)

    Aluminium Pros:
    Light
    Stiff

    Aluminium Cons:
    Stiff
    Lack of steel "feel"

    Steel Pros:
    Feel

    Steel Cons:
    Heavy (depending on purchasers budget and frame manufacturer)

    Some LBS folks say that bike manufacturers have gotten so good at making aluminium frames that they can mimic the supple feel of steel and still retain the light weight of AL. What do you all think of that? Seems like it may be overzealous sales BS to me, but I have never ridden an AL bike on dirt.
    Can the lack of "feel", which I imagine has a lot to do with frame stiffness, be mitigated by using a carbon seat post or (as JMH mentioned) bigger tires? Or, is this just personal preference. (I know reems have probably been written about this, but I would like to hear what you think.)

    The "old versues new" discussion seems to be too subjective for me to try to quantify (wai...that is an oxymoron, but you know what I mean). But, I am interested in what you think.

    (Dons flame-retardent suit and backs away from computer...)

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    The oft-mentioned "feel"

    Disclaimer: Not much of this applies to road bikes, where frame material differences are readily and easily noticable due to the use of skinny high pressure tires, rigid forks and short seat posts. =)

    My first ATB was a rigid steel Mongoose. Then suspension was invented. My first real "bling" bike was a Klein Rascal with matching Mag21. It was stiffer, lighter and rode ten times better, due entirely to the improved geometry and the suspension fork. Later I owned myriad other mountain bikes, a carbon Fisher, a Ti bike and a few suspension bikes... in my opinion, bike material "feel" is of little significance when chosing a frame. By the time you add suspension and big ATB tires, how much do you think we are feeling? Your choice of seatpost will have a bigger impact on the ride than the frame material will.

    I believe that steel's main advantages lie in its availability, ease of construction and customization. The fact that you can pick up the phone and order a beautiful tailor-made frame from literally hundreds of artisans all over the country is reason enough for me to own a steel frame. Rider weight, riding style and size are all easily accomodated in custom steel.

    I would love very much to own an Independent Fabrications steel frame. It would be heavy, but I wouldn't care for half a second. Would it ride well? Dang right it would. Would it be as light or cheap as my Bianchi, which also rides well? Not a chance.

    But why compare the two bikes? I think people want to know which frame is "best" when there isn't a wonder material. I think the "Magical Ride Quality" is overstated to justify the very real weight difference between steel and aluminum. If weight was the only consideration when picking a frame I could understand this better. But since steel is quite amazing for its other numerous qualities, I refute the "MRQ" as simply the attempt to be all things to all people.

    Hey steel, you are beautiful just the way you are! You don't have to invent stories to make friends! ;-)

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Other than all the great thoughts about Bianchi SS's and the good advice on getting into SSing, this thread seems to encapsulate some of the philosophical differences between SSer's.
    The really prevelant differences seem to be...steel vs aluminium and new SS bike vs converting old MTB into a SS. You guys probably know all this, but I want to flesh it out some of this for my own thought processes.

    So...(and I know I am probably over simplifying...)

    Aluminium Pros:
    Light
    Stiff

    Aluminium Cons:
    Stiff
    Lack of steel "feel"

    Steel Pros:
    Feel

    Steel Cons:
    Heavy (depending on purchasers budget and frame manufacturer)

    Some LBS folks say that bike manufacturers have gotten so good at making aluminium frames that they can mimic the supple feel of steel and still retain the light weight of AL. What do you all think of that? Seems like it may be overzealous sales BS to me, but I have never ridden an AL bike on dirt.
    Can the lack of "feel", which I imagine has a lot to do with frame stiffness, be mitigated by using a carbon seat post or (as JMH mentioned) bigger tires? Or, is this just personal preference. (I know reems have probably been written about this, but I would like to hear what you think.)

    The "old versues new" discussion seems to be too subjective for me to try to quantify (wai...that is an oxymoron, but you know what I mean). But, I am interested in what you think.

    (Dons flame-retardent suit and backs away from computer...)

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    I have a CUSS and it rides great. My first real SS which I bought at the LBS because it is just so damn cool.
    After a few rides, I put on a marzocchi fork, wierwolf 2.5 tires, and a ti post (had them all already) and it rides really really well. I also swapped out for a different stem.

    try converting your old bike, because it looks like it can be done with those semi-horizontal drops. but if you want to keep a geared bike and an SS, then consider something else.

    Take all the advice here with a grain of salt. Some people just regurgitate what they hear, while some people really know their stuff (i consider myself somewhere in between). especially on steel vs. aluminum. my opinion is that geometry is much more important. If the CUSS had a reynolds 853 sticker on it, I would probably say 'Oh, it's SO plush!'. The tires and fork and seatpost make a much bigger difference.

    I now ride a titanium softtail, which is (not surprisingly) more plush than the cuss. but I still grab the CUSS once in a while and it rides super!

    If the GUSS fits, and you want a dedicated SS and the LBS gives you a nice deal and swaps out any parts you want right away (like a stem or something for fit), especially if they do a fitting. I would get it. The parts are nice and you can always put them on some other frame later on if you feel like 'the aluminum is beating you up'. For starting on SS, it's great to just have the bike setup and go. No dicking around asking questions here about chainline and parts and whatnot.

    i think the frame material makes a much bigger difference in a road bike, where you have 100 psi little tires and that road buzz going up your back. the final thing is that aluminum bikes appear to be less durable. the frame will not last a lifetime. whatever you do, have fun!

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    I just built up a PUSS...

    and took it out for the maiden voyage last night. It rides pretty sweet. My other SS is a steel Hunter. Only noticeable difference is less BB sway. As far as feel (steel v. al) not much. Granted I put a carbon seatpost on the PUSS which probably minimizes any harshness that might be inherent to the frame, but I think a lot of what is said about Al bikes is based on ten year old Al bikes. Things have improved A LOT. No more straight gauge, lincoln log tubes. Butting makes a huge difference.

    My advice: if it fits, go for it. The GUSS is a pretty sweet deal for a fairly bling SS. The frame is proven, the spec is good. And everybody knows an entirely new bike is way more fun than cobbling a bunch of old parts together.

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    Pictures please!

    Quote Originally Posted by dannybob
    and took it out for the maiden voyage last night. It rides pretty sweet. My other SS is a steel Hunter. Only noticeable difference is less BB sway. As far as feel (steel v. al) not much. Granted I put a carbon seatpost on the PUSS which probably minimizes any harshness that might be inherent to the frame, but I think a lot of what is said about Al bikes is based on ten year old Al bikes. Things have improved A LOT. No more straight gauge, lincoln log tubes. Butting makes a huge difference.

    My advice: if it fits, go for it. The GUSS is a pretty sweet deal for a fairly bling SS. The frame is proven, the spec is good. And everybody knows an entirely new bike is way more fun than cobbling a bunch of old parts together.
    Thanks for the info.
    And like the subject says...Pictures please!

    I am beginning to think the GUSS is the way to go. I am headed back to the LBS tonight to double check the fit. (That is if they have not sold it, what with me wasting so much time on indesicion.)
    As jh_on_the_cape mentioned I can always sell the GUSS frame and drop the kit onto a new frame if I hate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jh_on_the_cape
    After a few rides, I put on a marzocchi fork, wierwolf 2.5 tires, and a ti post (had them all already) and it rides really really well. I also swapped out for a different stem.

    Nice ride.
    And you inadvertently answered a question I was going to ask about max tire size. It didn't look there was too much room to go bigger that the 2.1 tires that came stock on the GUSS that I have been looking at...

    Thank you for the info!

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    Orderd a GUSS

    Broke down and ordered the GUSS yesterday.
    I promise not to let the Stumpjumper languish in the basement. I plan on doing something with it in the nearish future. Maybe rehab it, convert it to SS and keep it as a town-bike/loaner. Or maybe but drop bars and knobby/skinny tires on it for some sort of mutant 'cross bike fun. Or maybe make it a fixie?
    Will post pictures when it is done.

    Thanks to everybody for the comments/thoughts/insights. You guys/girls rule!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Broke down and ordered the GUSS yesterday.
    I promise not to let the Stumpjumper languish in the basement. I plan on doing something with it in the nearish future. Maybe rehab it, convert it to SS and keep it as a town-bike/loaner. Or maybe but drop bars and knobby/skinny tires on it for some sort of mutant 'cross bike fun. Or maybe make it a fixie?
    Will post pictures when it is done.

    Thanks to everybody for the comments/thoughts/insights. You guys/girls rule!
    Convert that Stumpjumper into a bikepath or city type bike.

    It's strange that you mentioned the Rig and the GUSS, because I want to have either one of them by the end of July/beginning of August. I really think what I'm going to do is get the Rig and swap out some of the components before I take it home, because I really want to try a 29", but the GUSS is very well equipped, especially for the price and sounds fast. I can't believe no one who owns one has commented at all, they have been out for a while.

    I called the GF shop and talked to them about the Rig, and they ended up telling me the just started carrying Bianchi, but like I said, I really want to give the 29" a try, but who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monocog Man
    Convert that Stumpjumper into a bikepath or city type bike.

    It's strange that you mentioned the Rig and the GUSS, because I want to have either one of them by the end of July/beginning of August. I really think what I'm going to do is get the Rig and swap out some of the components before I take it home, because I really want to try a 29", but the GUSS is very well equipped, especially for the price and sounds fast. I can't believe no one who owns one has commented at all, they have been out for a while.

    I called the GF shop and talked to them about the Rig, and they ended up telling me the just started carrying Bianchi, but like I said, I really want to give the 29" a try, but who knows.
    Honestly, it was kind of a tough call....
    It came down to the fact that I am a little on the short side for a 29er and I called every LBS within a 50 mile radius and couldn't find a 17" Rig to test ride. And Fisher is out of them, so I would most likely have had to wait until the '06 Rigs shipped. And the 19" I tested just felt unwieldy. And the GUSS felt like a rocket on rails. And the spec on the GUSS is pretty [email protected] good for the money.
    And I needed a bike NOW.
    But, I plan on revisiting the idea of the 29er in a year or two, when I am a stronger SS rider and there are more 29er options available.
    Let us know what you decide. I'll post pictures and a ride review after the GUSS gets here, if you are interested.
    I can't friggin wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Nice ride.
    And you inadvertently answered a question I was going to ask about max tire size. It didn't look there was too much room to go bigger that the 2.1 tires that came stock on the GUSS that I have been looking at...

    Thank you for the info!
    post a pic when you get it!
    the WTB wierwolf 2.5 is actually not as big as some other 2.5 tires out there. and it fits with the wheel part way back in the slots. there is not much room, but the frame doesnt flex, so the tire doesnt rub. there is little or no mud in my parts, so that's not a problem.
    just letting you know.

    the GUSS looks really nice: with the ENO freewheel and hub/REBA/avid discs... nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Broke down and ordered the GUSS yesterday.
    I promise not to let the Stumpjumper languish in the basement. I plan on doing something with it in the nearish future. Maybe rehab it, convert it to SS and keep it as a town-bike/loaner. Or maybe but drop bars and knobby/skinny tires on it for some sort of mutant 'cross bike fun. Or maybe make it a fixie?
    Will post pictures when it is done.

    Thanks to everybody for the comments/thoughts/insights. You guys/girls rule!
    My friend just ordered one. It's much nicer than in pictures! Great spec (awesome fork). Have a blast!
    Taking it easy for all you sinners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Honestly, it was kind of a tough call....
    It came down to the fact that I am a little on the short side for a 29er and I called every LBS within a 50 mile radius and couldn't find a 17" Rig to test ride. And Fisher is out of them, so I would most likely have had to wait until the '06 Rigs shipped. And the 19" I tested just felt unwieldy. And the GUSS felt like a rocket on rails. And the spec on the GUSS is pretty [email protected] good for the money.
    And I needed a bike NOW.
    But, I plan on revisiting the idea of the 29er in a year or two, when I am a stronger SS rider and there are more 29er options available.
    Let us know what you decide. I'll post pictures and a ride review after the GUSS gets here, if you are interested.
    I can't friggin wait...
    I'm really excited for you, and please post pictures and a report when you get it. The more I think of it, the more I may go with the GUSS too, I wanted to try a 29" mostly because of it's ability to roll over obstacles, but it's been hot here in PA for the last week, and I went for a less strenuous ride on Sunday, practicing alot of skills, including riding over fallen trees, and I'm getting better at it. So maybe if I just keep up with the skills practice, the 29" won't be necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jubilee
    My friend just ordered one. It's much nicer than in pictures! Great spec (awesome fork). Have a blast!
    Thanks! It should be arriving at the LBS by early next week. I am as giddy as little school girl...
    You should encourage your friend to post their opinion of the GUSS after they have had a chance to live with it for a few rides.

    Mahalo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monocog Man
    I'm really excited for you, and please post pictures and a report when you get it. The more I think of it, the more I may go with the GUSS too, I wanted to try a 29" mostly because of it's ability to roll over obstacles, but it's been hot here in PA for the last week, and I went for a less strenuous ride on Sunday, practicing alot of skills, including riding over fallen trees, and I'm getting better at it. So maybe if I just keep up with the skills practice, the 29" won't be necessary.
    Thanks!
    Another thing to think about, and one of the main things that intrigued me about a 29er SS, is the added momentum gained from the big 'uns. I have heard/read that the 29ers really carry their speed into climbs, on downhills, and on open rolling single track where you can spin out. That, and the added traction of having a bigger contact patch.
    Let us know what you decide!
    So here do you live in PA? I am in north western DE, myself....

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    Can't beat the Bianchi SSs when it comes to parts spec'd for the dollar. Good luck with the GUSS. DId you ever consider a SASS? Here's mine with Psylo SL add-on, steel rocks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dannybob
    and took it out for the maiden voyage last night. It rides pretty sweet. My other SS is a steel Hunter. Only noticeable difference is less BB sway. As far as feel (steel v. al) not much. Granted I put a carbon seatpost on the PUSS which probably minimizes any harshness that might be inherent to the frame, but I think a lot of what is said about Al bikes is based on ten year old Al bikes. Things have improved A LOT. No more straight gauge, lincoln log tubes. Butting makes a huge difference.

    My advice: if it fits, go for it. The GUSS is a pretty sweet deal for a fairly bling SS. The frame is proven, the spec is good. And everybody knows an entirely new bike is way more fun than cobbling a bunch of old parts together.

    Post some pictures of that thing!
    I was mighty close to building up a PUSS myself. (why does that sound funny?)
    I ended up scoring a new DISS with a scratch on the top tube for five hunge. I changed some parts on it and I looooooooooooooooove it. I was thinking about the GUSS too.

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    Don't want to steer you on a different direction but have you considered a Kona Unit? Is steel, rides great and it's affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL
    Don't want to steer you on a different direction but have you considered a Kona Unit? Is steel, rides great and it's affordable.
    Actually, the Unit was the first bike I considered...heard lots of great things about it. But, I couldn't get my hands on one for a test ride...
    Hopefully, Kona will get picked up by a LBS in the future. I am intriuged by the Unit 29er that is in the 06 lineup....
    Thanks for the thoughts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpstumper
    Post some pictures of that thing!
    I was mighty close to building up a PUSS myself. (why does that sound funny?)
    I ended up scoring a new DISS with a scratch on the top tube for five hunge. I changed some parts on it and I looooooooooooooooove it. I was thinking about the GUSS too.
    I'll post picks as soon as it get's here...

    Let's see that DISS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeMorris
    Thanks!
    Another thing to think about, and one of the main things that intrigued me about a 29er SS, is the added momentum gained from the big 'uns. I have heard/read that the 29ers really carry their speed into climbs, on downhills, and on open rolling single track where you can spin out. That, and the added traction of having a bigger contact patch.
    Let us know what you decide!
    So here do you live in PA? I am in north western DE, myself....
    I live in Erie, which is in the NW part of the commonwealth, along Lake Erie. Not a whole lot of good riding around Erie County, but in SW NY it's a different story.

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    I guess it is splitting hairs if you use a suspension fork and especially if you're small to Medium in height, because a lot fo the feel will be diluted by the suspension and tires. For what it is worth, and if all things were equal, stell will not fatigue in your reasonable life time. aluminum will eventually fatigue and fail with hard use.



    That said, My girl and I have been riding rigid steel SS recently and we are both blown away by how supple the ride can be with properly huge tires and careful tire pressure. I'm pretty heavy, and I still prefer the bouncy fork, but she is barely over 100 soaking wet, and she is riding mutanoraptor 2.4 on her rigid SISS, and loving it. Loving it.

    (Mutano's are on sale at Cambria in 2.2 and 2.4)

    Ride on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutarious
    I guess it is splitting hairs if you use a suspension fork and especially if you're small to Medium in height, because a lot fo the feel will be diluted by the suspension and tires. For what it is worth, and if all things were equal, stell will not fatigue in your reasonable life time. aluminum will eventually fatigue and fail with hard use.

    Ride on....
    I know what you are saying about the longevity of steel. I have been riding the same steel Stumpjumper Comp (Tange Prestige tubing, which I guess was fairly hot back in the day), on and off, for the last 12 years. I love it and it has never let me down.
    The Stump will never be relagated to the basement. His job may change (townie/loaner SS/fixie?), but I plan on him being an active member of the family for as long as he is able.

    Mahalo....

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    Sorry to bring this thread back to life...

    the GUSS has arrived and am really happy with my decision. It is light, fast and climbs amazingly well. It took a few rides to get used to the handling (quicker than the Stumpjumper as I put a suspension fork on the Stump which slowed the steering way down). And the 32/16 gearing was kicking my arse on the climbs. I threw on a cheapy 18t freewheel and am much happier (I will be ordering an 18t outer gear for the ENO freewheel soon) . The GUSS rocks.

    I want to thank all the folks that responded, even though I didn't listen to the majority of you
    I am going to keep the Stumpjumper and give it a good rehab. Also, I found an old Diamondback Ascent EX frame that I forgot I had, which I am going to convert into some sort of singlespeed/fixie/cyclocross mutation. More on that in another post, on another day...

    Mahalo!

    (sorry for the crappy photo. I can post more/better photos if anybody would like me to...)
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    Old BOSS still crankin'

    I've got the '98 B.O.S.S. (orange), and like most of the others here, I eventually replaced everything but the frame and crankset and brake levers. Fun ride, very light, but had the steel Bianchi SS or the recent plethora of other steel frames been available when I bought it (new), I would have preferred one of those. Having ridden my friend's steel Spot, I really came to appreciate the differences in frame material. Now I'm thinking about letting the BOSS go and getting a Kona HumHumu, since my dirt days are largely behind me but I still love singlespeeds and have a fixie (or two) already

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