However I would really want something like what Specialized has done with the interia valve in a fork. Get that rigid uphill feel while plush on the DH. Or really anything with a remote lockout on your handlebars has my win for best fork.
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I have a Fox Vanilla RLC. It's rad. I want a Fragile Forks rigid fork. Can't seem to find them on the internet right now though... If anyone has any info, pass it my way.
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Id scrap the passion forum all together, its a breeding ground for unicorn milkers, rainbow chasers and candy cotton farters.
What are you using the SS for? Put another way, whatever fork is good for the trails you want to ride. I spend time on gnarly tech trails and find a longer coil sprung fork that is very active suits my needs, you may not.
I like the noodle steering now that I'm used to it.
The shimano XT wheels are not the stiffest lateraly. My other 29er s.s. has cheapo WTB wheels that are STOUT-very nice wheelset (Laserdiscs on LX). That Fox fork is only 100mm and the whole setup is stiffer. Better? I like both! My 26 has 15QR and I don't think the upgrade was worth it. If you START with 15qr it is worth it.
Older vanilla 125 RLC here. 4.18 lbs too heavy. Can be tuned to perform similarly to an inertia valved fork...Also can be run at 80 & 100 travel...
Smooth as butter...Can be had on eBay for 200 or so...
What would make a fork SS specific? Usually it's frame geometry, terrain and riding style that dictate which forks you need, not gear choice.
while i generally agree, i think that with the tendency for standing and climbing, the love of efficiency and the lack of desire to fiddle with stuff on your handlebars, people are going to recommend a fork with an inertia valve or a good platform moreso for ss riding than geared.
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Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
while i generally agree, i think that with the tendency for standing and climbing, the love of efficiency and the lack of desire to fiddle with stuff on your handlebars, people are going to recommend a fork with an inertia valve or a good platform moreso for ss riding than geared.
^^^^^This. It's why I chose to get a 15mm Fox Terralogic for my SS. Properly set up the fork does what it should both up and down hill.
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Yeah well, that's just, ya' know, like, your opinion, man.
while i generally agree, i think that with the tendency for standing and climbing, the love of efficiency and the lack of desire to fiddle with stuff on your handlebars, people are going to recommend a fork with an inertia valve or a good platform moreso for ss riding than geared.
The way I hear some people talking about bob while standing I think they must have learned how to climb from a salmon! No human should have to flop and thrash that much
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Originally Posted by boomn
The way I hear some people talking about bob while standing I think they must have learned how to climb from a salmon! No human should have to flop and thrash that much
seriously....
i got rid of my fork with inertia valving because it wasn't as plush as i'd like. I still don't notice pedal bob at all. If pedal bob is effecting your climbing abilities, then it's time to re-evaluate your suspension settings and riding techniques.
I have a rigid bike as well, and i actually notice more energy being wasted in the climbs and more dabs on that with my hardtail, especially on techy climbs.
seriously....
i got rid of my fork with inertia valving because it wasn't as plush as i'd like. I still don't notice pedal bob at all. If pedal bob is effecting your climbing abilities, then it's time to re-evaluate your suspension settings and riding techniques.
I have a rigid bike as well, and i actually notice more energy being wasted in the climbs and more dabs on that with my hardtail, especially on techy climbs.
Haven't ever tried a Lefty, but my 2011 Terralogic fork was awesome.
I ran it 2 clicks out from full firm. Nice and firm on climbs, way less brake dive, and it still railed a smooth berm like a rigid fork. Yet on impact of a rock or root, it would open up and go into the travel.
It could be set to be very, very plush too.
"I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew
I have used the float 100 and both a 26" and 29" REBA. I would give the Fox a slight edge in overall feel but the Reba has been less maintenance for me, my Fox blew through seals in quick order, well under the recommended maintenance interval. My 26" reba had the Poploc my 29" doesn't, I do miss that. Both are pretty easy to work on. Both are very nice stuff and will come down to personal preference based on something subjective like color or marketing hype. I will say all the BS marketing terms RockShox uses are a bit aggravating.
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Riding trails you maintain is more fun.
Fox F100RL Remote, recently picked a new take-off up cheap, swapped out a F100RLC on my SS. No more one handed riding, same great Fox ride quality, etc. Great upgrade.
I wouldn't go with a crak-n-fail product after they just laid off 200 people so they can move operations to Taiwan.
I agree to a point, but that at the same time that just means the bad taste is fresher in our mouths than from all the other companies that did the same stuff 10 years ago. I'm not sure what to think about them right now
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Originally Posted by boomn
I agree to a point, but that at the same time that just means the bad taste is fresher in our mouths than from all the other companies that did the same stuff 10 years ago. I'm not sure what to think about them right now
yea, but to do it in this economy where the unemployment rate was 13% in that area was pretty harsh. If they did it just because it was a last resort before shutting down, that's one thing.... but their parent company had record profits that year. That just says pure greed.
yea, but to do it in this economy where the unemployment rate was 13% in that area was pretty harsh. If they did it just because it was a last resort before shutting down, that's one thing.... but their parent company had record profits that year. That just says pure greed.
Good point. That said, the parents company's profits may (or may not) have been from other areas of the company and many companies don't believe in subsidizing poorly performing divisions.
I'm a month into a new relationship with a Magura Durin and so far it's been pretty damm sweet. It's got the trifecta of being plusher, more stiff, and lighter than my old Manitou R7. Magura seems to have a good rep for reliability but time will tell. BTW it is also the easiest fork to get dialed in that I've ever had.
I have an RL, RLC and XX. If I was buying a fork today, I would buy another XX. The Fox forks seem to have a little more small bump compliance but also more brake dive. I don't have the newest terra logic but my RL is 2008 my RLC and XX are 2010. They are all good forks and I have manged to put remote lockouts on my Fox forks with a little personal engineering. There are 2 reasons I would buy the XX above the Fox. The x-loc remote lockout with floodgate is great. The Fox with a remote is WAY more money and basically no better.
For a singles speed and really for any bike, once you have had a remote, there is no going back.
One thing that is different and some people might not like it. When the Fox is locked it is locked unless there is a really really big hit. When the XX is locked, it still has a small range of very dampened movement (like an inch) and then the blow off is adjustable with the floodgate from almost as hard to blow off as the Fox to fairly easy to blow off. So if you are one of those guys that wants a really really locked out fork, get the Fox. I find the almost locked out XX more to my liking.
Full rigid SS, Hardtail SS, Hardtail Geared, Full Suspension Geared.
Gotta say, really liking the Reba RLT Ti w/20mm Maxle on the El Mariachi. Smooth frok.....and stiff. Can lock out to about 95%.....but rarely need it that locked out.....usually leave it 2 clicks out from full lock.
The Lefty is light. But there is no easy remote (they will say that the lever is fairly high) and it is subject to fairly frequent maintenance. I like the overall concept of the Lefty, but since I have to remove the front wheel every ride the Lefty is a no go since you also have to take the brake off to remove the front wheel. Also, a local really fast guy that is well respected put a lefty on his geared bike (he mostly rides SS) and after 3 months changed back because he felt that it wasn't as good at dampening even though it was way stiff.
Full rigid SS, Hardtail SS, Hardtail Geared, Full Suspension Geared.