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    Best entry level SS for newbie?

    Given I am unfamiliar with singlespeeds, I can only guess as to what the entry level price is. For the sake of what my wallet considers entry level, it would have to be under $700 (simply spent TOO MUCH on my other bikes recently). I am open to used if that is the way to go.

    Cheers and thanks in advance

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    love my khs solo-one... around 500$ new. the kona unit is 700-800$, i believe. used surly 1x1 can be had for 500$

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    Bianchi BUSS / GUSS / PUSS / DISS / PISS / #$%?

    Surly 1x1

    Fisher Rig

    Kona Unit

    On One Inbred

    Not sure on exact price, but they're all pretty close to your budget if you shop around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redfooj
    love my khs solo-one... around 500$ new. the kona unit is 700-800$, i believe. used surly 1x1 can be had for 500$
    Two options:

    1. Get a KHS - cheap, steel, great geometry, reasonable parts, everyone who has one loves them. I have had three (four if you count the unused Softail in my garage just wating), and still reckon they have the best ride per $ on the planet.

    2. Get a cheap second hand gearie, and pull off the bits you don't need. Use the derailler as a tensioner, and get out there. If you don't like SS (there are some weirdos who don't) you can put it all back on, and sell it easily. Second hand SS's are rare, but don't sell easily for what they're worth (SSers are - in the main - cheapskates - we're proud of it!).

    Chose one of the above, and become one of the great unwashed.....
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    SS starter bikes I like

    I have owned a redline Monocog, good starter for about $400, and I still own a KHS Solo-one, great starter for about $500. If you can stretch the budget the best deal right now on an off the rack bike, seems to be the Fisher Rig. with a Rig you could try a 29r and SS at the same time, a well equipped bike for the price, of around $1000.

    Or, on the other end of the spectrum, take your exsisting geared hardtail, or find one cheap, and convert it. Many of us have made fun SS bikes for next to nothing. If you really like SSing, you can get a better bike later.
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    I've got a Redline monocog that is pretty good. after a year on it, I want to get a cyclocross...wanna buy this thing from me? PM me!

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    Rig

    just wait until you can spend $300 more.

    or a Bianchi with discs---which you might find used.
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    Redline Monocog

    It is the SS that got me hooked. It is a bit heavy, but it is among the cheapest and it is rock solid as far as durability. You really cannot go wrong with it. It also seems like they don't lose that much value when you see them for sale on Ebay, so if you decide to sell it to upgrade later.
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    My picks...

    Super cheapo, but still cool: Get an old steel Trek 930/950 for next to nothing and convert into a SS (rigid or with sussy fork). Should be able to get it done for $200 or less (maybe free if you get lucky), and the double butted steel frames are of premium quality - light, durable and great ride quality.

    More money, but full on SS: Get a used Bianchi disc bike. Avoid the steel SISS (chainstay cracking issues) and get an alumimum DISS if you can find one. They have the Avid mechs (which rock), WTB fatty tires, and rigid fork if you go for that. Although I would opt for a sturdy air fork on the front (I ran a 100mm Duke SL which was perfect). I've seen used DISS' in great shape go for $300-$450 range. I would also recommend swapping out the Spot hubbed/freewheel equipped rear wheel with a standard converted gearie rear wheel (LX-XT-XTR whatever). Use shims (PVC pipe) and standard shimano BMX cogs, you'll be much happier.


    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Given I am unfamiliar with singlespeeds, I can only guess as to what the entry level price is. For the sake of what my wallet considers entry level, it would have to be under $700 (simply spent TOO MUCH on my other bikes recently). I am open to used if that is the way to go.

    Cheers and thanks in advance

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    Ditto this post. I have a Solo-One and think it's an awesome bike for the price. Knowing what I know now of how much I enjoy SS'ing, I would have sprung for the Rig right from the get go. 29'er, SS and Disc brakes all in one reasonably affordable package, sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattman
    I have owned a redline Monocog, good starter for about $400, and I still own a KHS Solo-one, great starter for about $500. If you can stretch the budget the best deal right now on an off the rack bike, seems to be the Fisher Rig. with a Rig you could try a 29r and SS at the same time, a well equipped bike for the price, of around $1000.

    Or, on the other end of the spectrum, take your exsisting geared hardtail, or find one cheap, and convert it. Many of us have made fun SS bikes for next to nothing. If you really like SSing, you can get a better bike later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Given I am unfamiliar with singlespeeds, I can only guess as to what the entry level price is. For the sake of what my wallet considers entry level, it would have to be under $700 (simply spent TOO MUCH on my other bikes recently). I am open to used if that is the way to go.

    Cheers and thanks in advance
    Look around for a dealer with a 2004 Unit, offer him $600 - he'll take it.

    BTW, Kona changed the tubing and other things, the 2004 may be a better bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Given I am unfamiliar with singlespeeds, I can only guess as to what the entry level price is. For the sake of what my wallet considers entry level, it would have to be under $700 (simply spent TOO MUCH on my other bikes recently). I am open to used if that is the way to go

    Cheers and thanks in advance
    The feedback I have gotten is that both the redline and the KHS ride well. Neither is stuningly high quality, and neither come with great parts, but both are useable and inexpensive. The Monocog has 110 rear spacing, which can be akward if you want to start upgrading. The soft tail design on the KHS could be a plus ar a minus depending on your values.

    My advice would be to save your penies and get $775 plus tax, or less if you can find a screamin deal or used bike and get a Kona Unit. I like the geo esp. when rigid. I am partial to the sliding plates, and I think you will appreciate the disk compatibility down the line.

    The Bianchi offerings are nice, but you have to like that old school strait top tube geo. You will not get as much stand over with a comperable top tube length. I also think the Sliding plates are generally more user freindly esp. with disc brakes. It is cool that for about the same price as the Unit, it comes with disk brakes.

    If you have a lot of parts around, you may consider a new frame with some new parts. The Bianchi, Surly, Kona, On One, Soma, and prob some that I am forgetting make good ss frames for between 3 and 4 hundred dollars. We and other delaers have take off ss whlsets and rigid forks from Kona and Bianchi. If you have most of the other parts, and some wrenching skills, you could get it done well within your budget.

    Finally, I agree with Ernesto. The only chian tensioning system that I have never seen loose tension is the white ind Eccentric. I think all the other systems are valid, but I have struggled through issues for customers on EBB bikes, track drops, sliding plates, and off course singleator/soulcraft type devises. I would seriously consider any old steel frame that you like the ride of with a White Industries Eccentric hub. We build wheels on these hubs for around $230 depending on the specifics. You will still want to get a freewheel, and a chainring with no release points.
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    Did Redline change the rear spacing for the Monocog? Mine has 110mm BMX spacing, and will take any BMX hub with the right size axle. I highly recommend it, BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikehigh
    Did Redline change the rear spacing for the Monocog? Mine has 110mm BMX spacing, and will take any BMX hub with the right size axle. I highly recommend it, BTW.
    My bad I think you are correct about the drop out spacing.

    My point is that I have known some folks to be frustrated with this spacing when upgrading a part at a time, then ultimately the frame.

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    Sell ya mine for $500. Size large.



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    Redline offers the Monocog Flight, which is the aluminum version and runs for about $600. It's built up with avid brakes and Ritchey components. weight is in the low 20's.

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    Yo FoShizzle, do yourself a favor and get the Rig. Not only do you get a kick ass SS for $1000, but you get a 29er as a bonus. Not to mention the awesome Reba fork and Avid disk brakes. I love riding this thing. Makes me wonder what I was doing all those years sitting on my butt riding with gears. It was the best $1000 I ever spent on a bike.

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    Thanks to all for the great input.

    If my bonus allows it, I may then get the Rig based on all the great feedback. If not, I will probably buy used...

    Cheers

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