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    We the people ... Been off SS for a bit, what are the best off the shelf steel frame companies now?

    There was Salsa, Niner, Spot, Vassago, On One and Surly, are there new players I should be looking into? Really looking for steel. Ideally with 70 degree or less headtube but that's not a deal breaker.

    I guess maybe the same for carbon forks too, any new players of note.

    Thanks in advance

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    I'd buy one with a motor.

    NOT!

    Kona Unit, Soma Juice, don't overlook the Krampus!

    good place to check out some current rides...
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Canfield Nimble9

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    Niner SIR9 has been updated very nicely with 142x12 TA rear end, 44mm head tube, and 853 Reynolds tubing. Also the BioCentric II BB. Just got one for myself. Outside of getting a custom steal frame, the SIR9 is hard to beat if SS is your thing.

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    State Bicycle Co. just released at SS mountain bike which looks pretty cool at a modest price point.
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    Chumba Stella is legit.
    Pedal through it!

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    Singular Swift, Stooge, Transition TransAm, Production Privee Shan or Oka for a few more ideas. What wheel size - 29, 27, 27+?

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    Chalk up one more each for the Soma Juice and Canfield Nimble9. I have a Juice, which I bought because I needed a new frame to replace a broken SS frame, and couldn't wait 2 months for the Canfield. I have a friend with the Nimble9, and have ridden that, and like it as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either frame.

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    there's a wide range- are you looking for something "cheap" and mass-produced, or do you have a domestic boutique budget?

    I am loving my Soma Juice as it's very versatile and handles everything I have thrown at it so far. the newer Surly Karate Monkey is rad. Kona has a few options, including the titanium Raijin. If I could afford it, I would get a Chumba.

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    Love my Soma Juice. Some companies use different steel in the rear triangle, others cheap out. I think it's worth the investment to have varying qualities in the steel used for the chainstays and seatstays, makes for a nicer ride.
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    off the shelf, not custom, lots of choices - which is pretty cool if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy R View Post
    Singular Swift, Stooge, Transition TransAm, Production Privee Shan or Oka for a few more ideas. What wheel size - 29, 27, 27+?
    I looked at the new Transition TransAm also. This video nearly sold it to me:

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    don't forget about the CHARGE bikes

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    In addition to the obvious frames with track style drops (like Surly):

    Any frame with sliders, alternator, portage, black cat drops will work.

    Any frame with an eccentric bottom bracket will work.

    If none of those, the Eno eccentric will take up the slack.

    I think there are a lot of options that didn't exist when I got my MUSS. Now the question as Andy queried... what's the wheel size?
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Well I started on this when I bought it in 1999. It's now my Winter Computer
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    But I'm hooked mostly on Fat.
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    but I get some rides on this
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    and This
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    In the Summer I Ride these two
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    Quote Originally Posted by thepedalingfool View Post
    I looked at the new Transition TransAm also. This video nearly sold it to me:
    Here's another for you then - not run SS here but who cares?


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    Chumba, Vassago, Ceilo, Gunnar would be where I start my search.
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    Vassago VerHauen-For Sale
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    Something about the Trans Am and the Surlys are really starting to catch my attention. Thanks for all the great advice all, really appreciate it! Oh and realised I forgot to reply to the earlier question, looking for 29er for XC/trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy R View Post
    Here's another for you then - not run SS here but who cares?

    That is what I see in my mind when I ride. No one else would recognize it if they were watching me, but in my mind, it's crazy! No reason he couldn't be riding SS though. Very cool video.

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    I'll second the SIR9, have really enjoyed mine so far. Canfield's new Nimble 9 looks pretty interesting. Chumba, Cielo, and Soma also worthy among the other brands you have mentioned. Lots of people I know love the Vassago Verhauen
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    I heard Kona mentioned but nobody specifically called out the Honzo. I had the very first generation SIR9, which was an excellent bike, but when I built the Honzo I quit riding it and eventually sold it. The Honzo or any of the AM hardtails are fun as heck if you like to blast the downhills. If I were in the market right now, I'd probably be looking at trying a 29+ like the Krampus.

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    The TransAM looks like a rad bike, but I look at that style of bike as completely different than your traditional single speed. When I think traditional, I think Surly Karate Monkey... something with a steeper headtube angle, rigid fork, raw and bare bones. The TransAM is real slack and the geo is much more aggressive, not really in the "true spirit" of traditional single speed riding.


    To each their own, but when I hear people say things like "I've narrowed it down to a TransAM or a Karate Monkey" it makes me wonder if they realize that they are looking at two completely different riding styles.

    Edit: ^ that sounds a little grumpy. It wasnt meant to sound that way, just pointing out that geo and riding style need to be taken into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DualRollers View Post
    The TransAM looks like a rad bike, but I look at that style of bike as completely different than your traditional single speed. When I think traditional, I think Surly Karate Monkey... something with a steeper headtube angle, rigid fork, raw and bare bones. The TransAM is real slack and the geo is much more aggressive, not really in the "true spirit" of traditional single speed riding.


    To each their own, but when I hear people say things like "I've narrowed it down to a TransAM or a Karate Monkey" it makes me wonder if they realize that they are looking at two completely different riding styles.

    Edit: ^ that sounds a little grumpy. It wasnt meant to sound that way, just pointing out that geo and riding style need to be taken into account.

    Good point. I say to the OP, get both! Or, if financially not feasible, get a Surly first, then when "n+1" hits later on, buy yourself a TransAM.

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    I would look through the 2016 steel single speed thread. There are a lot of sweet rigs in there for inspiration.
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    Vassago VerHauen-For Sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Click Click Boom View Post
    I would look through the 2016 steel single speed thread. There are a lot of sweet rigs in there for inspiration.
    Ain't that the truth! With all these choices, I'm stuck in analysis paralysis!

    Been riding my flight since '09 and just recently cracked her. So I'm searching for my next steel rigid SS.

    You getting much ride time on that Chumba? How would you compare that to your VerHauen?

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    I've got about 500 miles on the Chumba and am loving it. It's a very different ride than the VerHauen. I love them both.

    Check your PM...
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    I bought a Krampus to get a feel for 29+ and a steel ride. Once I rode the Krampus a few times, I was hooked!

    I was also looking for a nicer steel frame than the Krampus and decided on buying a Vassago Verhauen 29+. This thing is amazing! It's easily my favorite bike now and gets the most use.

    Now my Krampus frame and fork are up for sale and will be going in the classifieds soon.

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    It's funny you mention selling your krampus. After a few rides on my Chumba and now I need to unload one of my Vassago's or maybe even my Cielo.
    Chumba Stella
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    Quote Originally Posted by Click Click Boom View Post
    It's funny you mention selling your krampus. After a few rides on my Chumba and now I need to unload one of my Vassago's or maybe even my Cielo.
    $hit!!!!

    I would've been all over either one if I didn't build my own lol!

    That Cielo especially has a special place in my heart. I love that bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floorguy724 View Post
    I bought a Krampus to get a feel for 29+ and a steel ride. Once I rode the Krampus a few times, I was hooked!

    I was also looking for a nicer steel frame than the Krampus and decided on buying a Vassago Verhauen 29+. This thing is amazing! It's easily my favorite bike now and gets the most use.

    Now my Krampus frame and fork are up for sale and will be going in the classifieds soon.
    just curious, how much do you weigh? what size frame are you riding?
    Rigid SS 29er
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    just curious, how much do you weigh? what size frame are you riding?
    I'm 5'9" and weigh 210lbs ready to ride.

    I rode a medium Krampus and am now on a medium Vassago Verhauen 29+.



    Here was the Krampus with parts that were transferred over to the Vassago Verhauen


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteitz View Post
    Chumba Stella is legit.
    Matches OP's username too.

    The lists in this post might be helpful: The Lowdown on Single Speed Mountain Bike Frames - Ride More Bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by floorguy724 View Post
    I bought a Krampus to get a feel for 29+ and a steel ride. Once I rode the Krampus a few times, I was hooked!

    I was also looking for a nicer steel frame than the Krampus and decided on buying a Vassago Verhauen 29+. This thing is amazing! It's easily my favorite bike now and gets the most use.

    Now my Krampus frame and fork are up for sale and will be going in the classifieds soon.
    Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I have a Krampus and am considering a 29+ Jabberwocky. What do you like better about your Vassago? Geometry, handling, etc..? Curious if it's worth switching as I'm pretty happy with the Krampus overall.

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