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    anyone using the WTB or American Classic SS hub?

    can someone explain the cog setup? do you need a spacer kit still or ?? what makes these SS specific since they are cog instead of freewheel based?

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    i use em, and like em a lot.

    some of my nomenclature may be off...but i will try anyway...

    single speed specific in that on a single speed cassette, the freehub body is shorter than on a normal geared cassette freehub body (ie, you dont need the single speed freehub body as long since you are not going to put on a 8/9-speed cassette). In turn, this allows the rear wheel to be built with no dish (ie, since the drive side does not require as much room for a freehub body thus, allowing a symetric build).

    you will need to fiddle with spacers a tiny bit, but that is trivial to do. spacers are needed just to help you get a good chainline which is dependent other things of course....but easy nonetheless. Cog and spacers just slide one and the lockring is trivial to put on.

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    do you have the WTB or AC? I hear the AC are not as durable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortrex
    do you have the WTB or AC? I hear the AC are not as durable?
    I have American Classic wheels. I have heard the same....I have also heard that Maverick forks are not good (bunch of crap)......I have also heard that anything but a horst-link suspension is not good (bunch of crap)......

    who knows, all I can say is my own personal experience has been very good.

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    What would you buy???

    Not to hijack this thread... but if I were buliding a NON disc wheelset and wanted to use a SS cassette hub, and am unwilling to buy the high end stuff (King, DT, etc), what should I look at as far as brands and models. Rear hub only, I can fend for myself on the front. I weigh 140lbs and am not hard on equipment. Cross country, trail riding, big rides. Thanks!

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    AFAIK there are only two mtb SS non-disc cassette hubs: Chris King and American Classic.
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    if cost were the drive I would simply use an existing cassette hub and just put a few spacers on and use it that way. Sure, with single speed hubs you get the theoretical advantage of a dishless wheelbuild but it aint gonna matter on the trail for most of us.

    are you set on a cassette hub? i ask cause i think there are a lot of great choices that run freewheels if you do in fact want a new wheel built. I love Phil Wood....but not cheap. Heck, even stuff like Surly or On-One will work just fine. Sorry to diverge...I know you said cassette hub....I just dont have a bias towards one or the other.....especially if you put on a sweet ENO freewheel; like having a King hub all of a sudden. Plus, I think you have more choices this way in terms of excellent quality for not a fortune.

    are you gonna put this on a single speed specific frame (ie, do you have horizontal dropouts, sliding dropout, or an eccentric dropout)? If a normal frame, I would strongly recomment a White Industries eccentric hub (though it is freewheel) but that is a sweet way to make it work.

    Sound like you know the higher end ones like King, DT, Hadley, I9, etc...:

    Not sure if cheapest is what you are looking for but if so, here are a couple. not sure if non-disc though.
    * Dimension Single Speed cassette hub (about $105)
    * Novatec (about $100)

    and the WTB woudl be a nice choice too.

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    Thanks Fo and Shiggy!

    I'm using an XT hub now and have no isssues with it. It's on a VooDoo Dambala, sliding dropouts. I know the White Ind freeewheel is good, I just hate to spend all that money when a good cassette hub does it all so well. I stole this wheelset off my Ibis (monster) cross bike and either need to put this wheelset back on the Hakkalugi or build a new wheelset for it. I am playing with the idea of an ENO for it cuz it has vertical dropouts. Too many options. I'm somewhat new to SS and am having a ball and loving it big time. I just am not too sure I should give up my option to run gears, being an old man and all. I'm leaning toward building up an ENO based wheelset for the Ibis and sell it if I ever were forced back into riding with gears again. I wish there was a less expensive option to the ENO for verticals dropouts. I could have track ends brazed on for what the hub and freewheel cost... but then I'd still need a hub.

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