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    AM slack SS frame options?

    Hey all, I currently have a Specialized Carve SS. Love the SS aspect, but hate the geometry of this bike.

    So looking for another frame I can swap my parts over (apart from fork most likely as want 130mm or so).

    I'm chasing something 29er, with 67deg HA approx. Large 440mm reach give or take a bit and around 430mm chainstays.

    Suited around a 130mm fork.

    Stealth dropper option would be ideal.

    Any suggestions on what I should be looking at?

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    I would tell you to buy my ROS 9 but it's a medium. might be too small.

    Most frames are getting slack-er and getting shorter chainstays. a lot of them are getting Boost rear spacing, so you if you want to use parts from an ancient bike (like, more than 18 months old), you will need to jump through a lot of hoops to make it work.

    The new Surly Karate Monkey and Kona Honzo might fit the bill. Canfield Nimble 9 is a good candidate but the new ones are Boost-only, I think.

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    Yeah not having boost would be a good thing..
    The Kona Honzo ST looks sweet. Seem hard to get these and the Canfields in Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by buell View Post
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    Can that be 29er? Looks like 26+ from website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Can that be 29er? Looks like 26+ from website?
    oh i'm sorry, i missed that in your original post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Hey all, I currently have a Specialized Carve SS. Love the SS aspect, but hate the geometry of this bike.

    So looking for another frame I can swap my parts over (apart from fork most likely as want 130mm or so).

    I'm chasing something 29er, with 67deg HA approx. Large 440mm reach give or take a bit and around 430mm chainstays.

    Suited around a 130mm fork.

    Stealth dropper option would be ideal.

    Any suggestions on what I should be looking at?

    Thanks
    Joel
    Hi Joel,

    Was in the same place like you 4 months ago. Loved the Carve but eventually didn't want a xc only bike, so tried something more versatile. Got Niner Ros 9 single speed. I love it, do everything with it. It's not available in large anymore, BUT the new Sir 9 will fit the same profile you want. It's quite expensive for frame only. It's worth the investment if you plan on riding either SS or geared. Look it up, I bet it'll definitely be what you're after. Keep us posted.

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    I've had a Kona Honzo for 4 years and still absolutely love it. Mine's steel and it's heavy but I don't care. This bike just feels so right. It truly elevated my riding. You said it's hard to get one in Australia but if you can find a way to make it happen, I believe you'll find the effort worthwhile.
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    Maybe a Cotic simple 29 if you can find one?


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    140 mm fork on an On One Inbred gets you a 66 degreed head angle, not everything is all mountain, but the geometry felt great to me compared to a Mojo SL

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    Guerilla Gravity Pedalhead looks schweet. And made in my old stomping grounds here in the USA. Also wicked limited edition neon green right now. I was eyeing up a Honzo steel. But the GG may be my next girl.

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    I was looking at the Pedalhead- how is that a singlespeed frame?

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    They offer a single speed option. Click on build options and drivetrain. Philcentric ebb. I do prefer sliders or track drops, but that frame looks so nice.

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    in that case, ANY frame could be singlespeed. the Philcentric BB looks like a cool idea, but I would rather not deal with the proprietary tools and stuff. apparently Phil only sells that tool to shops, so if you order a GG with that BB, I wonder how you're supposed to service it. seems totally not worth the trouble. I would rather just run a springy tensioner.

    not to bash GG, they look like awesome bikes at a reasonable price, considering they are made in the USA. I just wound go a different route if I knew I was mostly after a singlespeed frame.

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    Makes sense. That may turn my focus back to the Honzo for my next build.

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    I looked at the Honzo and ended up going with the Spot Rocker.

    It doesn't have stealth routing, but it has better dropouts, higher bb (I am a huge low BB supporter, but the Honzo is too low) and its lighter, like over 1.5lbs lighter.

    It would be right at 67* with a 130mm fork, the geometry on the geared page is with a 120mm fork and on the SS pages is a 100mm fork. Not sure why they did that, but thats what they told me when I asked.

    The KS Lev is avail in a 175mm drop now too, with top tube routing to the collar of the post, so no moving cable and no worries about stealth routing. If I ever decided to run a dropper, that's the route I would go.

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    Spot rocker seem a few hundred more than the Honzo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Spot rocker seem a few hundred more than the Honzo?

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    The Rocker is more. Its Reynolds 853, which is part of it, and the dropouts are very complex (to make) but very simple as far as usability and reliability. The rockers also come with a headset, both SS and geared dropout insert, touch up paint, and I forgot what else. They are also packed up better than I have ever seen any other frame for shipping.

    Also, get a hold of spot before you order, they usually have a 15% off deal going on.

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    Stanton Sherpa comes pretty close.

    https://www.stantonbikes.com/product...-853-next-gen/
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Nice thanks few good options here

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    Ragley Big Wig or check the Chromag models.

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    Advocate Hayduke might suit you. 68.5 degree HA on this frame is based on a sagged 120mm fork, so 500mm A-C. You would slack it out a little with a longer fork, but I always check with the manufacturer for the limits of fork length.

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    My Spot Rocker replaced a Hayduke after 2 weeks. I won't get into details but it only cost me $250 by the time it was all over.

    What I will say about the Hayduke is, I am not sure the SS dropouts are available, the frame (Medium) weighs 7 lbs, and BB92.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Squirrel View Post
    What I will say about the Hayduke is, I am not sure the SS dropouts are available, the frame (Medium) weighs 7 lbs, and BB92.
    ew, do not want. death to non-threaded bottom brackets!

    for the money involved, the Honzo is the only frame that I would consider in that category right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    ew, do not want. death to non-threaded bottom brackets!

    for the money involved, the Honzo is the only frame that I would consider in that category right now.
    The Honzo is hard to beat for the price. The weight still turns me off. Another option that I forgot is the Vassago Jabberwocky.

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    the Jabber might not be "AM" enough for the OP, but it's most likely going to be my next frame.

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    The jabber's geo is listed with a 480mm rigid fork, so with a 130 it would be in the 67* range. My only issue would be the very slack seat angle (it would be around 70* with a fork that long) but that is person preference.

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    Big Wig can be SS yeah?

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    Ragley? I don't think so.

    The bottom bracket is crazy low. 70mm drop with a 140mm fork.

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