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    Alley Cat questions/idea

    Here's the scoop mates I live in Dead Moines and I want to throw down an Alley Cat Race.
    We don't have a messanger crowd here but we do have a crap pot full of roadies and a few MTB'rs that seem to like racing their bikes. My idea:

    hit all of our parking garages in downtown, something like 14 of them so I'm dropping one to make it 13 and calling the race "Rated: PG-13". No set route just mayhem to get yer map stamped at the top of all the garages and get azz back to the start. Rent -a -cops also may or maynot play a good part in the mayhem, so would the time/day I choose to have the race.

    So there it is plain and simple, those of you who have participaited in one does this sound fun enough or just plain stupid?? I have a start on a flyer/spoke card on my blog. check it if ya want.

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    I had to go to Des Moines once for business. There is a pig farm very close to the city, during the night they incinerate the entrails; needless to say it smells like, welll, flaming poo. Anyone can do a parking garage race, but it takes a real man to race through pig farms.

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    hey go for it...

    another idea, if you dont have enough folks to hang around stamping...

    book of matches from the following bars... generally, they have to be nice bars to have embossed match books.

    you have to be fast because after about the 3rd biker asking for matches, they dont give them out anymore. well, depends on the bar. but it makes for some fun times.

    and matches are useful. and bars are good places to have as destinations.
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    We did one

    last year in Monterey at the Sea Otter. Here are my three morsels of wisdom:

    1. Don't make it too hard to find the checkpoints. We spent a lot of energy designing a cool and complicated course. It was cool, but too complicated. The answers to the clues were a bit to obscure. If was frustrating to the racers.

    2. Have a good idea about how many people will show up. If you knew that a certain number would participate for sure, then have a limit above that. We thought more people would show than did, and printed materials for 10 times the number of people who showed.

    3. If this dude shows up, padlock him into a dumpster or he'll win:

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    Bars=good times yes

    Quote Originally Posted by jh_on_the_cape
    hey go for it...

    another idea, if you dont have enough folks to hang around stamping...

    book of matches from the following bars... generally, they have to be nice bars to have embossed match books.

    you have to be fast because after about the 3rd biker asking for matches, they dont give them out anymore. well, depends on the bar. but it makes for some fun times.

    and matches are useful. and bars are good places to have as destinations.
    hey thanks John thats a great idea, matches yes.

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    Alleycat Idea

    I had an alleycat a few years ago in Chapel Hill, NC. It was called the "Spring Roll". Riders had to go to various Chinese Restaurants in the area and either answer questions about the restaurant or get a take out menu. There was a point system for checkpoints as well as for oredr of check in. This made strategy very important, some people chose to do a few checkpoints and come right back to get the "order of finish points" The winners were seperated by a few seconds-one went through some dirt to get to the finish line while the other stayed on concrete to get there. The winner is on here every now and then-Trial-Sin.

    There is a guy named Bruce who I used to work with when I was a messenger in DC who always had great ideas. Very simple but fun. That's the key, keep it simple and pre-ride the course as you would if you were competing.
    Are you going to move or should I go for it?

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    No need to man all the check points

    Just tag a secret number at each check point. Be it a sticker or spray paint. Just make it out of easy reach so nobody can screw with it! When each rider gets to the check... all they have to do is write down the number.

    13 checks is a lot unless there real close together!

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    Brilliant:)

    Quote Originally Posted by scoutdog
    Just tag a secret number at each check point. Be it a sticker or spray paint. Just make it out of easy reach so nobody can screw with it! When each rider gets to the check... all they have to do is write down the number.

    13 checks is a lot unless there real close together!

    Scoutdog you rock bro, I'll try and remember this so we can share beers at Gonome Fest 07'.

    Chasinsquid, thats a great idea also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy?
    3. If this dude shows up, padlock him into a dumpster or he'll win
    no doubt! Let my presence at any alley cat be cause for shiverin' in yer boots!

    Make sure ya got some cool swag for prizes. People dig swag. We had some pretty cool stuff at Sea Otter last year.

    And ditto the "not too far / too tricky" suggestion. Back in '04 Dirt Rag threw down a mean AC in Vegas during Interbike. I swear I covered most of Sin City, end to end. Jeezus what a haul. But I podiumed and got a pair of ceramic dice, so I got that goin' for me.

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    I'm sure

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    no doubt! Let my presence at any alley cat be cause for shiverin' in yer boots!

    Make sure ya got some cool swag for prizes. People dig swag. We had some pretty cool stuff at Sea Otter last year.

    And ditto the "not too far / too tricky" suggestion. Back in '04 Dirt Rag threw down a mean AC in Vegas during Interbike. I swear I covered most of Sin City, end to end. Jeezus what a haul. But I podiumed and got a pair of ceramic dice, so I got that goin' for me.

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    that this AC will not be no longer than an 1.5, hrs at least in my head that sounds completely fesable. The area the PG's are in is 5 blocks x 12 blocks then add a straight away of maybe 10 more blocks to get to DT. Down town Dead Moines is pretty compact. I'll be riding it tonight on the fixie at a mild pace, scouting rent-a-cops out to see which garage's are fortified by some overweight fat slob, welding a baton, flashlight, the attitude of 10 "real" cops, driving a large SUV, whilst protecting the great citizens of Dead Moines and their lovely boxess of metal inside this huge box of concreate.
    Swag is good yes, a badass dinner for 2 at the Bistro (about $90), my buddy Danno could possibly sling some INK on a mate ($80), a sweet old Motobecaun (sp) frame(priceless), and of course a courrior bag ($45)and bike goodies ($50-100). What about cash payout???
    Use this to pay for my spoke cards?? BEER always good I hear.

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    impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrely1
    a badass dinner for 2 at the Bistro (about $90), my buddy Danno could possibly sling some INK on a mate ($80), a sweet old Motobecaun (sp) frame(priceless), and of course a courrior bag ($45)and bike goodies ($50-100). What about cash payout???
    Use this to pay for my spoke cards?? BEER always good I hear.Peace
    I've done 5 ACs. The first I got a Salsa bell and "Master Says Faster" socks and an event t-shirt. All the rest, nothin'. What I've seen other winners get is really just t-shirts. Winner of the last one got a jersey with the race logo. And the leftover cash was spread across the top finishers.

    How much are you charging? I paid $10 (most expensive) for the AC that benefited colon cancer. The others were just $3.

    Least amount of people was 6, Sunday 11am. The most was 30ish on a Friday night.

    Many have time bonuses. The one that was tough was the 30 sec for a 6pk, 1 min for a 12pk, a min 30 for 18pk and 2 min for a case. A case of beer on your back is brutal when you're racing up a hill. to the next CP. Ooo, I forgot, and having to chug two beers before you go shopping for the time bonus. You did have to buy a time bonus as proof.

    Don't bother looking for security gaurds. That is not your problem. If you wanna make it tough make them do math.

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    some pics

    We knew where the end of the ride was prior to taking off. After we paid of course. About 10 people went straight to the Livewire after the first check poiint.
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=51394

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    Really??

    Quote Originally Posted by noslogan
    I've done 5 ACs. The first I got a Salsa bell and "Master Says Faster" socks and an event t-shirt. All the rest, nothin'. What I've seen other winners get is really just t-shirts. Winner of the last one got a jersey with the race logo. And the leftover cash was spread across the top finishers.

    How much are you charging? I paid $10 (most expensive) for the AC that benefited colon cancer. The others were just $3.

    Least amount of people was 6, Sunday 11am. The most was 30ish on a Friday night.

    Many have time bonuses. The one that was tough was the 30 sec for a 6pk, 1 min for a 12pk, a min 30 for 18pk and 2 min for a case. A case of beer on your back is brutal when you're racing up a hill. to the next CP. Ooo, I forgot, and having to chug two beers before you go shopping for the time bonus. You did have to buy a time bonus as proof.

    Don't bother looking for security gaurds. That is not your problem. If you wanna make it tough make them do math.

    Cool so I'm on the right page I guess. I was thinking $5 bucks should be cool, hell with all these sweet ideas bring a sixer as entry fee, I'm going to need something to do while everyone is racing. Been feeling the locals out today with the expected amount of interest.
    So if I get 20 mates to show I'll be down with dat, Des Moines is a tough cycling community. Not a bunch of what I like to call "Animals" ya know the party'n type but we still kick ass when it comes down to business. Seems everyone thinks their going Pro or something. I'm only checking security gaurd for my own awareness, phaq everybody esle its an Alley Cat. Time bonueses that is great. Please keep the ideas coming. I've never done one, just read alot and of coure seen "Red light Go" and was hooked on the idea ever since.

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    required reading

    more inspiration here?

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    Don't forget the spoke cards

    More inspiration here: https://www.messengers.org Click through to the event archives.


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    <img src="https://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:9EYj5awNtejNRM:www.bikecult.com/works/dropouts/litespdHfw.jpg"> <img src="https://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ezSYIHvA7Jl3TM:www.onechick.com/alleycat/peddlercrit/images/peddlerspoke.jpg">

    <img src="https://www.messengers.org/events/events2001/2001.11.17.nyc_a.jpg" width=200>
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    Spoke Card.....

    Lots of ideas for future events guys, I couldn't f-cking sleep lastnight due to all the events running through my tiny head Hell I drank a 6'r of Bass just trying to calm myself. If I wasn't on paper I'd a fired a fat one up I can't believe this hasn't happened in our little city till now..... yes I believe it. Anyway spoke card for "Rated:PG-13"......maybe, I have some other ideas.
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    your editor sez:

    lose the "alley cat race" text. It's understood

    Zoom in on the sign and you got a weiner.

    or you could modify one of these:

    PS - holy crap this is my 1,999th post! I'm scrambling now, calling my stylist and party planners in WeHo to do something fabulous for the Big Post coming up. What shall I wear? What shall I photog? The pressure man, the pressure! I'll get e-vites out to everyone today. Thanks for the heads up, NoSlo.
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    I like that

    I was thinking of "Breaking Away"

    Hey, throw a party H is gonna be 2K

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    Sweet brutha Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    lose the "alley cat race" text. It's understood

    Zoom in on the sign and you got a weiner.

    or you could modify one of these:

    PS - holy crap this is my 1,999th post! I'm scrambling now, calling my stylist and party planners in WeHo to do something fabulous for the Big Post coming up. What shall I wear? What shall I photog? The pressure man, the pressure! I'll get e-vites out to everyone today. Thanks for the heads up, NoSlo.


    thats the one man, I'm telling you that your truely a genius

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    Final product

    Here it is mates, and thanks again Hollywood Peace
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    give bonuses for..

    -solving riddles at a check point

    -downing a shot (or coffee) at a check point: key to this one, the person doling out the shots should not be on the wagon, or be sipping them selves and attempting to remember vital info for next stop, HAAA, you laugh but it happens pissing a lotta folks off

    -jumping in the water to get to a stamped location (have someone floating in an inner tube or boat/raft/etc. good to invite some ladies to it, ud b surprised how many people get nekid in order to keep their clothes dry. (disclaimer: if during winter, pick an indoor pool w easy access)

    -recognise diff categories: SS, fixie, fixie w/o break, etc

    -dammit, feed folks afterwards, it sucks when the promoter/organizer dont have shite for everyone after they have pedaled their arses off, hehehe

    -keep it fun, n dont sweat the details, creativity emerges from chaos

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    If you did it on a weekend, you'd have all of downtown to yourselves. Would security guards even care? Run it through the skywalks -- now that'd be kkrazy.

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    Yup

    For some unknow reason other than I think the job going to their head some of the rent-a-cop guys are azzholes here, but thats not all bad with a group of riders. A group of us usaully hit the PG's in the winter here just for some light interval training. Skywalks would be fun.....yes.

    fire horse: I'm gonna feed um beer and donuts, does that count

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