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    700x44 tire in DISS frame?

    Will a 700x44 Mutano Raptor fit in my Bianchi DISS frame? My calculations indicate that it would be about 3/4" larger in radius than a 26x2.4, anybody ever try it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0jones
    Will a 700x44 Mutano Raptor fit in my Bianchi DISS frame? My calculations indicate that it would be about 3/4" larger in radius than a 26x2.4, anybody ever try it?
    Every 26" wheeled bike I have ever owned swallowed a 700c wheelset no problem so I would say its a 95% chance it will work. Most of the bikes I've tried this on are older with less frame clearance too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c0jones
    Will a 700x44 Mutano Raptor fit in my Bianchi DISS frame? My calculations indicate that it would be about 3/4" larger in radius than a 26x2.4, anybody ever try it?
    Using the measurements from my site, the radius of the 700x44 Mutano is 16 mm larger than the 26x2.4.
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    It fits!

    ...just a test on borrowed Campagnolo Gamma Strada rim.
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    Seatstay clearance: about 1/2 inch all around
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    Chainstay clearance: about 3/8 inch each side, and 7/8 inch at the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c0jones
    Chainstay clearance: about 3/8 inch each side, and 7/8 inch at the front.
    So have you ridden your DISS with the 29er wheels on it yet? Just wondering what you thought about the raised bb and the handling of it all. Thanks!

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    question for cOjones

    How do you like your DISS frame? I'm considering one right now. Why did you chose this frame? Do you find the Aluminum to be harsh?

    Can it take a suspension fork?

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    Not c0jones, but...

    I have a 19" DiSS that I'm using with a 100 mm Marz occhi. It's more compliant than my 1995 M2 Stumpjumper SS was. I bought the DiSS because I wanted to run disc brakes and because it was a great value. Mine weighs about 23.5 lbs with kevlar W T B MutanoRaptors, a Thom son post, the sussy fork and upgraded pedals/saddle.

    I recently built a Santa Cruz Chameleon SS with a bit more fork because on really technical descents I feel like the DiSS is a little noodly under my 175 lbs, but otherwise it's a very good bike.

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    not yet, just built the front wheel (XTdisc/AlexTD17)... just about to take apart perfectly good wheel to use hub for rear.

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    answers for Lambone

    "How do you like your DISS frame?"
    i own 2 of them...

    "Why did you chose this frame?"
    3 lb 6 oz, and not known to be weak... no rim brake posts... i seem to be addicted to black aluminum frames.

    "Do you find the Aluminum to be harsh?"
    maybe it is, but doesn't bother me.

    "Can it take a suspension fork?"
    designed to accept an 80mm fork, but many say 100mm works too.
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    completed!

    I like the raised bottom bracket. Gary Fisher's "Rig" is very similar.

    bottom bracket drop:
    D.I.S.S. - 40mm
    G/F Rig - 50mm (not sure what the min/max of the EBB is)

    Quote Originally Posted by DmofoT
    So have you ridden your DISS with the 29er wheels on it yet? Just wondering what you thought about the raised bb and the handling of it all. Thanks!

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    Cool conversion!! Never seen a 26" bike wih so much clearance, wow! Why not a fat 2.1" in the back too? It would quicken up handling back slightly. The increased trail of a 29" fork/wheel makes it steer like a 1 degree slacker 26" setup, and the narrower rear tire adds to that a bi more.
    Happy trails!

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    I'm not using a 29" fork, that's the original D.I.S.S. fork... nearly the only original part on the bike. The head tube angle is virtually the same as a stock D.I.S.S.

    Mutano 44 has only about 3/8"(9.5mm) clearance... a Nano 2.1 might fit, but would require moving the axle back... lengthening wheelbase. Right now the axle is at least 1" (25.4mm) from the rear of the dropouts.

    The standover clearance is only bad thing about the conversion... both of my D.I.S.S. frames are 19.5"(49.5mm)c-t.

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    ... and if we just ...

    i did the same setup on a access frame it has much less clearence but my bike is strictly for cycle speedway dirt oval racing no brakes with home made 0 rake fork its a handful
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    Smile What rims for my Voodoo?

    I have an old Voodoo frame in the garage. Have you tried to put a 29er on the rear?
    What rims should I look at If I wanted to try making a 29er out of my Bantu?


    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    Cool conversion!! Never seen a 26" bike wih so much clearance, wow! Why not a fat 2.1" in the back too? It would quicken up handling back slightly. The increased trail of a 29" fork/wheel makes it steer like a 1 degree slacker 26" setup, and the narrower rear tire adds to that a bi more.
    Happy trails!

    J

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    Alex TD-17

    I used 32-hole Alex TD-17 rims, M756 XT disc hubs, Wheelsmith spokes/nipples
    293mm for front wheel & left of rear / 292mm for right side of rear.

    1st try the tire u plan to use with a road wheel.

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