Just curious, have you ever used an XTR setup? I currently have the M970 on my bike and I was wondering if they feel similar? (thumb/trigger action and feel)
No experience with XTR, but I can only imagine that they are pretty buttery.
I only know that focus on the 2013 saint group is on how smooth and silent everything is. Also the up shift trigger on the shifter works both as an index finger or thumb trigger, which made the transition from sram triggers seamless. Overall, the derailleur itself feels super strong and beefy, the spring has lots of tension and the limit screws are pretty beefy themselves.
Install and adjustments only took a mere 20 minutes and I was on a trail with no issues after that. Didn't touch the barrel once actually.
Also when I say quiet, I mean It really doesn't make a chirp. I paired it with a deore 11-34 10 speed cassette and kmc x10 chain. Truvativ Descente cranks 36t with gamut chain guide/bash guard and still quiet.
Sweet man ! I always been on SRAM stuff which as held up and worked but been curious to try out Shimano stuff , and the way the trigger setup for shimano is made really interested me . Cant wait to start ordering parts !
How is chain slap holding up with that rear derailer ?
I didn't really look cause I didn't hear anything. I should note that I am using the FR adapter for mounting the derailleur which pulls the whole unit back and makes the chain tension a bit tighter. As long as you have the right length chain, you're golden. BTW I used the big-big +2 way to measure chain.
I'm not sure if the new Saint shifter does it (I think it does,) but one thing I really like about the XTR 980 on my trail bike is the multi release when gearing up. You can drop 2 or 3 gears with one stroke, versus the click click click method on SRAM.
Yeah. New Saint shifters have Multi-Release. It seriously took Shimano to a new level for me. Dropping 2 gears in one movement is used more than half the time I shift now.
I actually can't stand riding my big bike currently cause the X9/X0 combo feels so awkward.
You guys said it right there. My first time on shimano was yesterday, and I can happily say that I will never go back to sram.
My guess is that only way for sram to move it's lower end products is through contracts with bike companies. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT!!! SO DON'T BE OFFENDED BECAUSE I MAY BE COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONG!!!!
I've been on Sram for year. X9 and X7, mainly. But, I think it's time for a change. However, I don't want 10sp. What I plan to do, is to get Zee (much cheaper that Saint rear der.), change pulleys, keep my SLX/Saint 11-28t cassette and get a proper, 9sp shifter. The only question is, which shifter to get?
thanks guys. do u think saint would be a bit over the top for (aggressive) all mountain riding? I love the saint brakes, been using it for a while and am thinking of getting the derailleur and dump the xtr... mainly for durability and it's short cage design.
I'm running a saint shifter w zee rear. So far I'm very impressed. Very precise, bike is near silent, and the multi- release is something you didn't realize you need until you ride it. Up shifting 2 at a time is huge.
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