I'm using the 1.5 spacer in my 08' Giant Glory FR. Clunking after about 14 rides. Do these really need that much maintenance? I read all about them before I bought one so I'm not surprised and I am not saying I don't like it. Besides the noise it's doing it job nicely with the addition HT angle. Everything still feels tight but it can be heard just lift and dropping the front of the bike down. Any new recommendations for it?
I have a decent amount of experience with the AngleSet.....In all of my instances, you have to run the headset with quite a bit more than normal pre-load....I always told myself that this is like running a steering damper on my Moto.
I got rid of creaks and pops by doing this, You notice it in the bike stand, not so much on the trail....I am thinking of going back to one, I know what I am getting into.
Also, because of the extra pre-load or the size of the bearings, I go thru about 4 a season....Little, cheap to replace sealed bearings though...
the trick is to use antiseize, not grease. the tiny little particles in the antiseize seem to fill in anything out of tolerance. and yes, more preload than normal. Also, retighten afetr a few rides after everything settles in. Mine have always been fine. Have a half-degree one in my sc Butcher, with a 160 fork the HA is 66.2!
That's been a common complaint with CC's angle set; I had the same complaint after about a half dozen rides on a previous carbon Remedy. Wouldn't stop popping during normal hits in the front and really bad in the chunkiest sections. Reset it twice with more and more grease, but couldn't quiet it down. Sent it back to CC for a refund.
My '12 Session 88 came with one, but doesn't have an offset to it. Using it as a regular headset I haven't heard a sound.
I ran one for about a week before I got rid of it, I thought my steer tube was coming loose or my headtube was going to break off, 'not a very confidence inspiring sound.
Best way too fix the angleset is to get rid of it. Some don't have problems with them, but lots of people do. Check out the chain reaction teams video on angleset maintenance that they do for their dh team.
I noticed a clacking sound right away with my just installed one. literally on the first day out. I listened to my friends advice, on getting the King, but the new frame came with the CC. Ace Hardware, here I come. I've got some plumbing to do anyway. Ready AzDog?
Sucks to say, but its not that it needs maintenance, thats just how they are. Mine absolutley drove me crazy, so I got a King and sold my AngleSet.
AngleSet supporters will be quick to point out that not everyone experiences the noise issue (or that you are obviously inept at the installation), and others would say that even if you do, the benefits of geo change are worth the noise. Not to me.
As far as I know CC still hasnt really addressed or even admitted the issue, so I dont think there is a permanent fix in the way of redesigned parts yet.
You just need to decide what you can deal with and make the decision on what to do with your headset from there.
So I did the whole grease everything up and tighten more than usual and actually stripped the star nut...
I think part of the problem is it's so hot out here the metal was too hot and easily mangled.
I took everything apart and cleaned it all up perfectly so now I just need to get a new star nut put in and try it again, this time probably inside haha.
Bike shopt installed mine last September. Did a lot of riding and a 12 hour dh race, never heard a peep.
This spring, I stripped the bike down and removed all the paint. I was nervous about the angle set, but the LBS told me to slather it with Marine Grease. I did. I put gobs and gobs in there. Also run it a bit tight, but not so much that I can't ride no handed.
So no doubt my headset was loose. Tried tightening the bolt (which was fairly loose) and the star/nut holder inside the steer tube all but came right out. Did the bike shop that installed my Angle Set and Boxxer R2C2 fork miss something like maybe tack welding that piece in the steer tube in place? It shouldn't have come out like that.
Never ever would you weld a star nut in place :nono: I am beginning to think the star nut should be placed right next to the 5mm QR skewers and reserved for road use only.
I had a similar issue with the star nut and have now learned that many people have issues with them. It seems people say about 1 in 5 are defective and will come apart or just not work.
I was told by a fairly reliable source, that there are some teams on the world cup circuit that are running blue locktight on their gimbal. That's what I did and it has only popped 3 times (under a heavy compression in, say a roc garden), since last autumn.
Just got it back for the LBS. New star nut and a freshly greased Angle Set and no more noise.....for now LOL. I'm ready to hit Killington this weekend.
I ended up using a head lock, but it seems like I can't tighten it down enough to stop the noise before the lower part starts spinning instead of threading. May have to go back to a starnut and hope it holds up. Gonna give the install one more try following CC's exact instructions from their 2nd install vid.
I had a great day riding Killington VT last Sat. All seems to be well with the CC Angle Set. I did notice that LBS installed a small spacer under the upper crown so It seems to keep things tighter than just the upper crown applying pressure to the Angle Set itself.
You shouldn't need any exotic lubricants, loc-tites, over torque, or anything in order to make the AngleSet work properly. It just needs proper installation, something most techs, in my experience, have no clue how to do.
I'm pretty sure I'm getting a star nut put back in today. The headlock doesn't seem to be able to be tightened down enough, and I can see where the top cap is starting to separate and the hex key hole is warping (not stripping, the metal seems to be rising up in between the corners). It might just be broken but since I got this thing to work with a star nut I might as well stick with that.
I borrowed a stand and did everything to a T and it still makes the noise. The limiting factor certainly seems to be that I can't tighten it down.
Let me know how it works out. I hit a set of stairs yesterday w/ my Glory and thought I may have heard the click or pop of it again. Oh well.
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