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    queue buyer's remorse on '11 575

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    Love it, will be selling my 575 for one of these in the future
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    Looks pretty good!






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    Looking forward to the details on this one. Could be the next new ride.

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    My initial questions:
    1) Alloy frame avail now?
    2) How stiff is that rear end?
    3) Is it exactly 6"? Will a 170mm fork feel unbalanced/too tall?
    4) How's that suspension handle a Hammerschmidt?
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    Awesome!

    Great to see Yeti leading the way with innovation!


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    MAN am I glad I just sold my 08 575 for a decent price...not because I'd buy one of these, but because the used market is going to PLUMMET for those, while everyone clamors for the newest bit of monkey motion...

    Looks nice though.

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    As sweet as it will probably be, give a year to work on quality control and teething problems, especially things like bearing wear...after my ride today on my ASR7, I don't regret just buying it at all, especially on the closeout price from Competitive Cyclist. I got my ASR7 for $700, after which I don't think I can ever justify paying full MSRP for the new kid on the block with yet to be determined reliability.

    Get a 575 when they come down and price and ride and love it till the new SB66 comes down. 1/4" or 7mm of travel difference? I can't see the 575 sticking around for more than another year or so, but if you can get new 575 for $1000 less why not? .

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    I wish the geo's where up.

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    Geo's are on Pinkbike.
    A couple of impressions after 2 rides: rear end definitely is firm under high chain tension - like grunting over a steep pitch. Doesn't mush like a 575 under low cadence- high load situation.
    Front end is much slacker feeling than a 575 and set up to descend fast, you want to stay centered over the bike more than back and it climbs fine.
    Top tubes are slightly longer, fit is similar due to shorter stem.
    It is awesome to ride in all situations with no propedal! Propedal 3 seems to have minimal effect on the street or trail, the links do the work.
    I think that this bike is huge step forward, as big as the 575 was when it first came out.

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    Yeah, I'm stoked to see it's finally released! I was at corporate 2 weeks ago and it was definitely under closed doors! I just ordered a 575? of course, they're not offering the Super Bike in my size? WTF? I need a XS! Raaarr don't short bad ass chicks need cool bikes too??

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    Thanks for the input Yeticaster - hey, how do you feel about the amount of travel - were you ever thinking you could use another half inch or anything?
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    For the trails i was on, it had plenty of travel. It really wants to go faster downhill than I can.

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    When's a 7 inch version coming out. 6" bikes are sooooo 2009.

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    Where's the 29er version? =)

    Here's the Pinkbike version: http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Yeti-SB...Look-2011.html
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    BB seems kinda low to me? 13.35?
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    A much better ride report here:

    http://www.mountainbike.com/mountain...ail-bike-sb-66

    I notice he noticed the low BB height, like I noticed. Notice that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE View Post
    When's a 7 inch version coming out. 6" bikes are sooooo 2009.
    Wouldn't be surprised if that is one of the other two Switch suspension bikes about to hit. THEN we'd gettin somewhere. ASR-7 update in 3, 2....
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    It is up at Yeti.com. Sweet!
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    6lb carbon version too! where do i sign up

    Is my internet broken because I was caught out in left field on this. The build kits only list Fox 32s, this bike is begging for a 36.

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    I was thinking the same thing, it makes the bike look more delicate or trailbike than the all-mountain sturdy thing I think it could be. The low BB & little forks make me wonder... I've got a 170mm fork here I want to use but not if it's going to make the geo all whack
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    Looking good!...

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    Yes it looks nice and definitely the right move Yeti made - cant wait to hear how it rides once it is released to the people. If it lives up the hype I will for sure consider coming back to the tribe. Used to have a 575 but am currently on the new Intense Tracer 2 which is nice but also a bit on the heavy side. The SB-66 in carbon is sure going to be a nice frame - oh boy :-)

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    Will they fade out the 575 something tells me her days are numbered !

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    Looks like a great effort its just too bad the wheels are too small for my tastes. Great looking trail bike though.

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    It sure does look like allot of fun and built to rock!

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    Looks really impressive. I might want one of these...

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    I'll try to tackle all of these questions later, but in the meantime, there is a ton more information here:
    http://yeticycles.com/#/bikes/SB66/1/

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    I'll try to tackle all of these questions later, but in the meantime, there is a ton more information here:
    http://yeticycles.com/#/bikes/SB66/1/

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    I might be interested in an SB-67, especially if the BB is a little lower. Glad they finally changed the cable routing too. Should have done it on the 7, even without the dual link.

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    Frame looks like a work of art, and I applaud them for thinking outside the box. With that said Im not to sure im sold on that design. Looks like it'll develop play in the main pivot, and how can that not flex? Can't wait to read some reviews, because I know the yeti diehards are foaming out the mouth for this.
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    Sonofab!tch! and I just built up a new 575 last night. Talk about buyer's remorse first thing this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    36mm forks are MUCH stiffer. It is not about being able to ride something - point and shoot accuracy. One my two bikes - one with Wotan, one with Sektor RL difference is noticeable. But I am sure this new bike will be just great with 160mm forks.
    i was talking about the rear travel? read the post i quoted. 150 v 165....

    personally, i would run my bos 160. for exactly the reasons you've written

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    thats funny this post should of been on page 2 ?
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    Mi gusta SB-66. ¿Puedo tener un lima por favor? Oh si si.
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    Looks pretty interesting might keep me on a Yeti....love my 575 and the company, but having ridden the Pivot 5.7 I am interested to see how this compares. Those Pivots are so nice.

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    Will the Aluminum one be made in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemeat View Post
    THIS exactly. Waiting for "later models" is fine but I am without a frame now & it is beautiful outside. So may go with this 66 "for now" but yes - 32 fork and 152 is kind of uhhhhhh

    That BB is just low, I'm sorry but there isn't a ton of buffed swoopy singletrack around here, but there's plenty of rocky chunky stuff that I am too inept to pedal through without whacking my pedals on everything.

    Really hope one of the other two bikes is an ASR-7 with this new Switch Tech design.
    Yeti claims a BB height of 13.8 with a 160 fork, and a 66HA. Seems like a good combo. Low enough to corner, but not so low as to smash pedals. 13.3 in the 150 mode seems low, but maybe Yeti was thinking more trial bike than AM fo users running this setup???
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    I always thought that the Sanction looked like a rippin' bike...this one does too


    I know the lower pivot is different, but those are very similar aesthetically, that is all (ie: don't getcher panties in a bunch)

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    Wow your right that's damn close, almost hard to which is which!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reerun View Post
    you guys do know that this bike is also designed to run a 160mm fork? head angle will be 65.9 and bb height up to 13.8, which i agree 160 mm fork is the way to go!!!
    Good to see it under 66 deg. I like geometry of my 07' Kona Coiler - looking around for future replacement. SB-66 definitely makes the short list for me. I like the 8x2.5" shock and coil compatibility and low standover. All improved over ASR7. New Transition Bottlerocket - with an angleset to get it to 66 another one I look at..

    Thinking of that, 07' Coiler had quite an advanced geometry for that year. I am just physically incapable of letting a good bike serve me for long time...

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    I'm really impressed, looks like a great bike and the reviews are great. However, $2200 for an aluminum frame? That's pretty steep, wonder how much the carbon version will be. I'm glad I went with my $1000 575 frame.

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    That is exactly what I was thinking. Yeti's new system is very ID like. If Maverick has to pay I wonder if Yeti will as well.

    With that said, Busby's system works great and Yeti seems to be following his design principles as well.

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    I love the super long top tubes. Might be next AM bike to replace my trusted Enduro.

    Curious to hear real world ride reports.

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    Nice

    Cool that Yeti has quietly been innovating a new susp. system while so many have bagged on them for sticking to an "old single pivot design" in the era of DW bikes. A bit of crow may be on the menu?

    I'll probably give it a year to shake out and get a look at the carbon version (ASR5C layup is the best looking out there IMO). Curious about final build wieghts. Ibis SL-R was at the top of my wish / replacement list but I'll definately test ride the 66 before I buy anything new. Outerbike this Oct.? May be back to the Tribe myself.

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    Yeah I think ringing the death bell for the 575 is a bit premature. Its been a bike of beastly performance for a long time. Picking up my new one this week. No remorse here. That said, in a couple years I'll be giving this a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appalachia View Post
    Yeah I think ringing the death bell for the 575 is a bit premature. Its been a bike of beastly performance for a long time. Picking up my new one this week. No remorse here. That said, in a couple years I'll be giving this a look.
    On their FAQ for the new frame they state that this isn't a replacement for the 575, they will continue to manufacture the 575.

    "And, the most asked question... Is the SB-66 replacing the 575? No, the 575 will remain in the line and continue to offer best-in-class performance at a lower price point than the SB-66. "

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    anybody knows when it will be available?

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    the difference in head angle alone would be reason enough to keep the 575 in the lineup, in my opinion anyway
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    Hoho... will wait for the carbon version to appear this Dec so by then, hopefully...hopefully most bugs will be rid off.

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    Watched that video and my only dislike is the way that chain is whipping around in the slo-mos. Is that an issue or is that common in other designs of this type? Don't think I've ever seen video of a bike slowed down like that. I've never been 100 percent sold on the single pivot, I have some trouble with square edged bumps. This is just what I've always wanted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDKeg View Post
    "And, the most asked question... Is the SB-66 replacing the 575? No, the 575 will remain in the line and continue to offer best-in-class performance at a lower price point than the SB-66. "
    I wonder if they are talking about the difference it is currently at which is only a couple hundred bucks or if they will be dropping the 575 prices??

    If so, Ive got a 575 order I need to cancel, and wait til the prices drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eonicks View Post
    queue buyer's remorse on '11 575
    Why?

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    I understand having buyer's remorse if you think the sb66 is better for you but... for certain people the 575 is still going to be a better option, it's just not the newest hottest thing out.

    I've got a yeti asr-5 in my crosshairs and I'm kind of nervous to get one now, thinking there may be an SB-65 on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyd3487 View Post
    I understand having buyer's remorse if you think the sb66 is better for you but... for certain people the 575 is still going to be a better option, it's just not the newest hottest thing out.

    I've got a yeti asr-5 in my crosshairs and I'm kind of nervous to get one now, thinking there may be an SB-65 on the way.
    With any new suspension design, waiting for second generation could always be a prudent thing.

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    I noticed the chain whip too, looks pretty extreme although he was under heavy load in that turn... but I mean you can really hear it soon as you hit play... the polymer chainstay guards are hard & plasticy perhaps
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    Quote Originally Posted by swade View Post
    So does SB really stand for "Super Bike"? I see some of the reviews stating that, but the Yeti site does not disclose. My first thought was Switch Blade when I first saw it, because of the Switch technology and the bike certainly looks like a trail weapon.

    Or could it mean "Son of a B*[email protected]!", since that will be the reaction when other companies see it for the first time...
    I bet it just means "Switch Bike", Switch being the name of the suspension design - as per posters quoted above.

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    That is one long top tube. I would definitely be running the shortest stem I could find on this one.

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    We got charts and graphs. I see what they did there. I want to test ride one.
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    As exciting as this design is to me, I'm really disappointed with the choice to go with the 32 fork platform and only 150mm out back. 165mm out back and the 36 platform would make it better for a much wider range of riding. Even though a 36 160 fork and a 32 150 fork only differ in travel by 10mm, there is a full inch difference in ATC difference. Plus if it pedals/works so well, why not a little more modern trailbike travel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    As exciting as this design is to me, I'm really disappointed with the choice to go with the 32 fork platform and only 150mm out back. 165mm out back and the 36 platform would make it better for a much wider range of riding. Even though a 36 160 fork and a 32 150 fork only differ in travel by 10mm, there is a full inch difference in ATC difference. Plus if it pedals/works so well, why not a little more modern trailbike travel?
    yeah cos your really gonna miss that 15mm

    if you can't ride that rocky chute with 150mm, your not gonna be able to ride it with 165mm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    As exciting as this design is to me, I'm really disappointed with the choice to go with the 32 fork platform and only 150mm out back. 165mm out back and the 36 platform would make it better for a much wider range of riding. Even though a 36 160 fork and a 32 150 fork only differ in travel by 10mm, there is a full inch difference in ATC difference. Plus if it pedals/works so well, why not a little more modern trailbike travel?
    Everybody has their idea of the "perfect" bike. Just because the SB-66 doesn't appeal to you as it sits, be patient! This design, if it works, very well could take over the entire Yeti trailbike line so there will probably be something for everyone. It'd be REALLY cool if they'd throw an adjustable headtube and swappable shock mounts on it so everyone could tailor it to their specific needs Personally, I want an SB-95

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    Quote Originally Posted by fua View Post
    if you can't ride that rocky chute with 150mm, your not gonna be able to ride it with 165mm...
    36mm forks are MUCH stiffer. It is not about being able to ride something - point and shoot accuracy. One my two bikes - one with Wotan, one with Sektor RL difference is noticeable. But I am sure this new bike will be just great with 160mm forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    As exciting as this design is to me, I'm really disappointed with the choice to go with the 32 fork platform and only 150mm out back. 165mm out back and the 36 platform would make it better for a much wider range of riding. Even though a 36 160 fork and a 32 150 fork only differ in travel by 10mm, there is a full inch difference in ATC difference. Plus if it pedals/works so well, why not a little more modern trailbike travel?
    THIS exactly. Waiting for "later models" is fine but I am without a frame now & it is beautiful outside. So may go with this 66 "for now" but yes - 32 fork and 152 is kind of uhhhhhh

    That BB is just low, I'm sorry but there isn't a ton of buffed swoopy singletrack around here, but there's plenty of rocky chunky stuff that I am too inept to pedal through without whacking my pedals on everything.

    Really hope one of the other two bikes is an ASR-7 with this new Switch Tech design.
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    Bike looks amazing! I'm really considering replacing my small travel and big travel bike with just this, but that means this thing will have to take whistler abuse. I think I'll wait a year to hear what is being said. geo looks perfect though .

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemeat View Post
    THIS exactly. Waiting for "later models" is fine but I am without a frame now & it is beautiful outside. So may go with this 66 "for now" but yes - 32 fork and 152 is kind of uhhhhhh

    That BB is just low, I'm sorry but there isn't a ton of buffed swoopy singletrack around here, but there's plenty of rocky chunky stuff that I am too inept to pedal through without whacking my pedals on everything.

    Really hope one of the other two bikes is an ASR-7 with this new Switch Tech design.
    you guys do know that this bike is also designed to run a 160mm fork? head angle will be 65.9 and bb height up to 13.8, which i agree 160 mm fork is the way to go!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Yeti claims a BB height of 13.8 with a 160 fork, and a 66HA. Seems like a good combo. Low enough to corner, but not so low as to smash pedals. 13.3 in the 150 mode seems low, but maybe Yeti was thinking more trial bike than AM fo users running this setup???
    Looks like they're recommending 25% sag and apparently it doesn't wallow or squat which could help keep the BB up on the climbs. I just wonder what kind of pedal feedback there is. Seems like when you use a linkage driven pedal platform/anti-squat there's some noticable pedal feedback ie VPP, DW-Link.

    Looks killer tho and the geometry seems right on

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    Quote Originally Posted by fua View Post
    yeah cos your really gonna miss that 15mm

    if you can't ride that rocky chute with 150mm, your not gonna be able to ride it with 165mm...
    Wow that was an awesome post I love the new frame but i am not going to have any Buyers remorse on '11 575 that the shop still has for one more week, I can't justify paying $500 bucks more for 1/4" of travel , I got a great deal on my 575 and will love it for many years to come

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    So does SB really stand for "Super Bike"? I see some of the reviews stating that, but the Yeti site does not disclose. My first thought was Switch Blade when I first saw it, because of the Switch technology and the bike certainly looks like a trail weapon.

    Or could it mean "Son of a B*[email protected]!", since that will be the reaction when other companies see it for the first time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    Everybody has their idea of the "perfect" bike. Just because the SB-66 doesn't appeal to you as it sits, be patient! This design, if it works, very well could take over the entire Yeti trailbike line so there will probably be something for everyone. It'd be REALLY cool if they'd throw an adjustable headtube and swappable shock mounts on it so everyone could tailor it to their specific needs Personally, I want an SB-95
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    Quote Originally Posted by swade View Post

    Or could it mean "Son of a B*[email protected]!", since that will be the reaction when other companies see it for the first time...

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    Took a tour of Yeti's factory today and got to see the SB-66. Even with a 7lb frameset, it doesn't feel too beefy. Seems to be a very solid design with some great features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheez1ts View Post

    Bike looks amazing! I'm really considering replacing my small travel and big travel bike with just this, but that means this thing will have to take whistler abuse. I think I'll wait a year to hear what is being said. geo looks perfect though .
    I have a Nomad and a Firebird. The Nomad isn't enough for trails like Dirt Merchant. The Firebird is JUST barely enough. My personal opinion is you need 170mm or really amazing 165mm travel to really enjoy the park.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    I have a Nomad and a Firebird. The Nomad isn't enough for trails like Dirt Merchant. The Firebird is JUST barely enough. My personal opinion is you need 170mm or really amazing 165mm travel to really enjoy the park.
    I rode 17 days on a Banshee Rampant up there last season (bit of a whistler w***e), and the only problem I had was cracking my frame :P. I got a Yeti 303R-DH to ride up there now, but it feels like too much. I just want something that's big enough to not break while still maintaining a small bump sensitive suspension design. Nomad looks worthy, but this looks better .

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    Why do they spec with a 150mm fork? 160-170 forks are the norm for a 6" bike, you would think Yeti would remove their head from somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    I have a Nomad and a Firebird. The Nomad isn't enough for trails like Dirt Merchant. The Firebird is JUST barely enough. My personal opinion is you need 170mm or really amazing 165mm travel to really enjoy the park.
    Really? A run down Dirt Merchant to A-line is, under good conditions when the whistler trail crew can stay on top of the potholes is basically a smooth bermed jump run until that last fast chunky bit that brings you to the corner of the Boneyard and enter lower A-line or split off to the 4X course. I love riding my Nomad on those trails, its easier for me to hit landings/not come up short on a smaller and lighter bike. Until I get on the rough chunk double blacks, I'm happy with the Nomad. .
    It does wear out my arms quicker, but I feel like I go faster than on a DH bike on A-line and Dirt Merchant on the Nomad.
    I guess everybody's got different preferences
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    top tubes / sizing?

    Top tubes look crazy long - looking at the chart they are saying someone 5'7" can be on a Medium with a 24.3" top tube? I am 5'11" and like a 23.5" top tube with 70mm stem on a 6" bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YETI_Chris View Post
    Wow that was an awesome post I love the new frame but i am not going to have any Buyers remorse on '11 575 that the shop still has for one more week, I can't justify paying $500 bucks more for 1/4" of travel , I got a great deal on my 575 and will love it for many years to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    We got charts and graphs. I see what they did there. I want to test ride one.
    Can anyone provide some education on what one can learn from these curves?

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    I've been waiting for a frame like this to replace my aging GF Rosscoe, something with plenty of rear travel, QR15 fork friendly, good pedal feel uphill. I don't want to haul around the extra weight of a big fork and wheelset and am willing to sacrifice a bit of downhill performance for all day liveablility on longer rides. I can't wait to test one, this might be my next bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleven-yo View Post
    Really? A run down Dirt Merchant to A-line is, under good conditions when the whistler trail crew can stay on top of the potholes is basically a smooth bermed jump run until that last fast chunky bit that brings you to the corner of the Boneyard and enter lower A-line or split off to the 4X course. I love riding my Nomad on those trails, its easier for me to hit landings/not come up short on a smaller and lighter bike. Until I get on the rough chunk double blacks, I'm happy with the Nomad. .
    It does wear out my arms quicker, but I feel like I go faster than on a DH bike on A-line and Dirt Merchant on the Nomad.
    I guess everybody's got different preferences
    Plus you are probably a more skilled bike park rider than I am....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBonty View Post
    Can anyone provide some education on what one can learn from these curves?
    Very roughly (correct me if I am wrong, please):

    Rate of chain growth indicates how much feedback there is between tension in the chain and suspension movement - at various points in suspension trajectory. If it is high - there is chain feedback, if it is low, it is more isolated, but that can be a negative when you accelerate. Many designs rely on chain tension to counteract squat.

    Leverage shows how easy it is to blow through shock travel. The higher it is, the easier it is to compress shock at that relative position. It needs to be taken together with shock's intrinsic load curve (more linear for spring, more raising for air) and compression tuning.

    Bicycle suspension design is difficult because it is all designed to interact with a human body, which is a highly non-linear bio-mechanical system. Perceived effort and comfort is not easy to quantify.

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    Oh man, I am hearing end of THIS month/July these things are going to drop.

    Jenson USA has em pegged at JUNE 22

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    Wow the black sb-66 with the teal link is gorgeous... add a white lyrik on the front and I can't imagine a more beautiful bike. I can't wait to eventually sell my 575 and own one of these down the road!
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    Was just looking at TT lengths. Is it me or is the large *really* long? My Firebird XL top tube is 24.7, Nomad XL is 24.8 and the SB XL is 25.9? They must sell a lot of mediums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Was just looking at TT lengths. Is it me or is the large *really* long? My Firebird XL top tube is 24.7, Nomad XL is 24.8 and the SB XL is 25.9? They must sell a lot of mediums.

    Yes, absurdly long...my L Delirium has a 24.3TT, L Terremoto had a 24" TT...ran a 50mm stem on each.

    I have a feeling the super duper long TT will either be revolutionary (like 66* trailbikes were a few years back, whereas now it is the norm) or just absurd.

    FWIW, I am 6'0" and Yeti says I should be on a L...I'd take the M and keep my 50mm stem, otherwise I don't think I could find a short enough stem for a L.

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    you say has w/ the Delerium & had w/ the Terremoto. does that mean you got rid of the T?

    how would you compare the 2? you think the Del is a laterally stiffer frame? better @ tech climbing? what pros & cons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    Yes, absurdly long...my L Delirium has a 24.3TT, L Terremoto had a 24" TT...ran a 50mm stem on each.

    I have a feeling the super duper long TT will either be revolutionary (like 66* trailbikes were a few years back, whereas now it is the norm) or just absurd.

    FWIW, I am 6'0" and Yeti says I should be on a L...I'd take the M and keep my 50mm stem, otherwise I don't think I could find a short enough stem for a L.
    At 5' 10.75" I'd be square on a medium and would probably still feel that the TT was long. My large Spot is 23.6 and I feel it's about perfect with a stem anywhere from 50-90mm (currently 70). I prefer a bike that's easier to pull up in the front. A long TT does keep the front down. I guess it needs to be ridden to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    you say has w/ the Delerium & had w/ the Terremoto. does that mean you got rid of the T?

    how would you compare the 2? you think the Del is a laterally stiffer frame? better @ tech climbing? what pros & cons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
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    Yeah...this is about the sonofab!tch - 66.

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    I'm not worried about the TT head angle and spacer amount can move that around a bit.

    Still, I have one on order, my 25th just seems so dated all of the sudden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvo1 View Post
    I'm not worried about the TT head angle and spacer amount can move that around a bit.

    Still, I have one on order, my 25th just seems so dated all of the sudden.

    How can you move a TT number?

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    That BB number is going to be a pedal smacker, but will carve singletrack nicely. My current ride has a 13.1 BB with 140mm's of travel, and the previous bike had a 13.25 with 150mm's of rear travel. Of course you can coast through rock gardens, but that's not an option with the clock ticking.

    Nice to see the mainstream companies specing frames with longer TT's finally. Both my current and previous rides were 24" and 23.7" respectivly and were the main reason I've went with custom full sus frames for the last five years. This will probably be my next frame since the numbers I like cost extra with Ventana, but I wont know for sure until Jensen has one to demo.
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    I think I read in one of the many reviews that Yeti recommends leaving the propedal off all the time on the SB-66. Can anyone confirm if this is correct? If so, I like the sound of that.

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    What is up with that "Frame 250 of 1,189" statement on the Yeti site? Are these things going to be numbered on the frame somewhere?
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    What is CURIOUSLY MISSING from the charts is FSR . DW and FSR would really help me compare.... I have a Nomad with VPP2 but it's such a weird suspension that it doesn't really help me compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    Yes, absurdly long...
    Not really, if you pay attention to the other numbers.

    Seat tube angle is slacker than on most current frames.

    What does it mean?

    It means you'll have to put the seat half an inch to one inch more forward on the rails, compared with a Delirium, to get the same seated riding position. So, there goes an inch of top tube length.

    ......
    I wish Yeti would give Reach and Stack measurements like some other bike companies are beginning to do. Reach: horizontal distance from BB to head tube. Stack: vertical distance from BB to head tube. Some refer to these as the Standing Size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime View Post
    Not really, if you pay attention to the other numbers.

    Seat tube angle is slacker than on most current frames.

    What does it mean?

    It means you'll have to put the seat half an inch to one inch more forward on the rails, compared with a Delirium, to get the same seated riding position. So, there goes an inch of top tube length.

    ......
    I wish Yeti would give Reach and Stack measurements like some other bike companies are beginning to do. Reach: horizontal distance from BB to head tube. Stack: vertical distance from BB to head tube. Some refer to these as the Standing Size.
    There goes your slack seat tube angle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime View Post
    Not really, if you pay attention to the other numbers.

    Seat tube angle is slacker than on most current frames.

    What does it mean?

    It means you'll have to put the seat half an inch to one inch more forward on the rails, compared with a Delirium, to get the same seated riding position. So, there goes an inch of top tube length.
    Assuming that I have an inch of seat rail adjustment.

    I am paying attention, these numbers are really really long. Honestly, I don't really care, I have a bike that I am not going to get rid of that is in that category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keninshiro View Post
    Hoho... will wait for the carbon version to appear this Dec so by then, hopefully...hopefully most bugs will be rid off.
    Anyone hear a price on the carbon frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    What is CURIOUSLY MISSING from the charts is FSR . DW and FSR would really help me compare.... I have a Nomad with VPP2 but it's such a weird suspension that it doesn't really help me compare.
    Actually what is missing is the GT's ID system, which seems identical to this. Logically, both system keep all the great parts of a single pivot system while dramatically reducing the bad parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus
    Actually what is missing is the GT's ID system, which seems identical to this. Logically, both system keep all the great parts of a single pivot system while dramatically reducing the bad parts.
    Huh? The SB is a mini link bike, similar to VPP, DW, Maestro, Cove, Canfield, etc, etc, just with an extremely short lower link. The BB is part of the front triangle. The design is two triangles joined by two links. It's definitely not a single pivot.

    I-drive is similar to Maverick, where the BB floats relative to the front and rear triangles and the rear triangle is connected by a single pivot.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but how are Switch and I-drive "identical"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhandluchs View Post
    Huh? The SB is a mini link bike, similar to VPP, DW, Maestro, Cove, Canfield, etc, etc, just with an extremely short lower link. The BB is part of the front triangle. The design is two triangles joined by two links. It's definitely not a single pivot.

    I-drive is similar to Maverick, where the BB floats relative to the front and rear triangles and the rear triangle is connected by a single pivot.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but how are Switch and I-drive "identical"?

    My thinking was that both systems use an eccentric-call it a mini link but it looks just like an eccentric - to control chain growth. The big difference of course is the location of the bottom bracket and the method by which the eccentric rotates. Maybe I am wrong but that is what it looked like to me.

    Also, single pivot is not a bad word. The design has some great attributes - also some bad ones. The idea is to have the good parts of a single pivot (which Yeti knows tons about) but limit the bad ones. Same idea that Busby had years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    My thinking was that both systems use an eccentric-call it a mini link but it looks just like an eccentric - to control chain growth. The big difference of course is the location of the bottom bracket and the method by which the eccentric rotates. Maybe I am wrong but that is what it looked like to me.

    Also, single pivot is not a bad word. The design has some great attributes - also some bad ones. The idea is to have the good parts of a single pivot (which Yeti knows tons about) but limit the bad ones. Same idea that Busby had years ago.
    This is just the same a mini link, no single pivot-ness here. One of the really great parts of this design is that it should be easier to manufacture to the tight tolerance the mini-link's require. That is one of the challenges the other companies have is keeping all the links and pivots in just the right place on each and every frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus
    Also, single pivot is not a bad word. The design has some great attributes - also some bad ones.
    I agree that "single pivot" isn't a bad word, never implied otherwise. Was simply pointing out that the SB is not a SP (that's gonna get confusing) while the I-drive is. I've ridden some very nice single pivot bikes...and some bad ones as well.

    Back on subject: I'm hoping to at least get a parking lot test ride in about a week. The shop probably won't let me get too far away for a proper test ride. Not in the market for a new ride right now, but this bike has me intrigued.

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    I like video over pics:
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    I think because the geometry is more DH than AM, that is why you are all taken aback by the length of the top tube. DH bikes have a longer TT to make it have the same reach as other bikes. Look at the top tube on the 303R-DH, it's quite long and it comes out to a 16" reach for the large in the middle setting. (perfect for me )

    I have decided not to buy an SB-66 until I ride one, anyone know if that test ride they got posted in another thread is going to make it's way to things like Crankworks?

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    Why is this big boring ad posted all over the place? Where is the SB-66 that I am missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    I'll try to tackle all of these questions later, but in the meantime, there is a ton more information here:
    http://yeticycles.com/#/bikes/SB66/1/

    Thanks for all your interest,

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW
    the FAQ mentions the SB-66 accepting a rear coil... Will it also be capable of a Fox 36 fork?
    The geometry chart lists both 150 and 160mm forks, so I'm gonna guess yes...unless you mean the 180mm version of the 36.

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    Was at the Yeti Beti race last weekend and test rode the 2011 575, the ASR5-C, and the SB-66 back-to-back. Not the most technical trails, but by choosing the worst lines instead of the cleanest, they were enough to get a bit of the flavor.

    All of them have a bit of their own personality, but the SB-66 is going to replace my 2006 575 this Summer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheez1ts View Post
    I like video over pics:
    Who is the rider in this vid? He's puttin in work on that SB-66!

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    What shoes is that guy wearing? I haven't seen those before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    What shoes is that guy wearing? I haven't seen those before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfb View Post
    Was at the Yeti Beti race last weekend and test rode the 2011 575, the ASR5-C, and the SB-66 back-to-back. Not the most technical trails, but by choosing the worst lines instead of the cleanest, they were enough to get a bit of the flavor.

    All of them have a bit of their own personality, but the SB-66 is going to replace my 2006 575 this Summer!

    I know alot of people are comparing the 575 to the SB-66, but what did you think of the ASR 5 compared to the SB-66. I ride a ton of tight twisty tech singletrack and my ASR 5 is simply the best bike I have ever ridden for that.
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    I have no doubt this SB-66 will be a real winner. The question I have is because it's the first time they have mass produced this new suspension system, I'm wondering how many problems (ie defects, breakages etc etc) we will see, if any. Seems like the "next" version would be the more reliable production model, after they work out a few of the kinks.

    At least that's what I'm telling myself right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy R View Post
    I know alot of people are comparing the 575 to the SB-66, but what did you think of the ASR 5 compared to the SB-66. I ride a ton of tight twisty tech singletrack and my ASR 5 is simply the best bike I have ever ridden for that.
    do you think your HA on the 5 has anything to do w/ that? you think the 66 HA would match up w/ tight & twisty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    do you think your HA on the 5 has anything to do w/ that? you think the 66 HA would match up w/ tight & twisty?
    The head angle is irrelevant between the two. I run a 140 fork on my asr 5 for a 67 HTA, and the sb-66 has a 67 HTA with a 150 fork which is what I would run.
    I am a DH racer used to slack head angles anyway. What I like about the asr 5 is how snappy the rear suspension is, and how it rockets foward with each pedal stroke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridetheridge View Post
    I'm wondering how many problems (ie defects, breakages etc etc) we will see, if any. Seems like the "next" version would be the more reliable production model, after they work out a few of the kinks
    I don't know, this bike has been getting the "kinks" worked out of it for two years now. I would think that if Yeti was going to release a bike of this magnitude, 99% of the kinks have been removed. I just don't think there's any waiting this new line out for a better one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy R View Post
    The head angle is irrelevant between the two. I run a 140 fork on my asr 5 for a 67 HTA, and the sb-66 has a 67 HTA with a 150 fork which is what I would run.
    I am a DH racer used to slack head angles anyway. What I like about the asr 5 is how snappy the rear suspension is, and how it rockets foward with each pedal stroke.
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    Any idea on the rear tyre tyre clearance, all the pictures I've seen the bike have either Nobby Nics or Racing Ralfs fitted, they look like 2.25" as well and they are not very big. That's always been a problem on my 575.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark G View Post
    Any idea on the rear tyre tyre clearance, all the pictures I've seen the bike have either Nobby Nics or Racing Ralfs fitted, they look like 2.25" as well and they are not very big. That's always been a problem on my 575.
    From the Yeti Website FAQ;

    The 575:
    "The 575 can accept up to a 2.35" tire."

    The SB-66:
    "There is great tire clearance on the SB-66 but tire sizes vary widely by manufacturers, so it's hard to give a number that works for all tires. The short answer is the SB66 can accept up to a 2.4" tire. "

    My guess is they are conservative on the 2.4... that is they most likely selected the largest 2.4 tire they could find on the market today, to make sure it would fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    What is CURIOUSLY MISSING from the charts is FSR . DW and FSR would really help me compare.... I have a Nomad with VPP2 but it's such a weird suspension that it doesn't really help me compare.
    yes, makes you wonder how the FSR would compare... i'm thinking of maybe adding a FS 26 AM, and the SB66 is a contender, but so is a Stumpjumper EVO (150mm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridetheridge View Post
    I have no doubt this SB-66 will be a real winner. The question I have is because it's the first time they have mass produced this new suspension system, I'm wondering how many problems (ie defects, breakages etc etc) we will see, if any. Seems like the "next" version would be the more reliable production model, after they work out a few of the kinks.

    At least that's what I'm telling myself right now
    I'm telling myself the same thing, but I know darn well I will want one once more ride reports come out or I see it in person. Its all over if I get a chance to demo it.

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    New SB 66 video from Competitive Cyclist lets you see the rear suspension in action.
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    I hear from competitive cyclist that the white frame wont be available until next year. The rest of the colors available in July/August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eonicks View Post
    I hear from competitive cyclist that the white frame wont be available until next year. The rest of the colors available in July/August.
    Yep, white won't be in the first batch that comes in. More than likely late fall early next year the latest. That basically made my mind up as I was choosing between White and Lime. My shop has mine scheduled to pick up July 4th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    I like the raw.
    I have to admit that 66 would look so sick in brushed raw with a clearcoat.
    Kind of like the old Yeti Dj and my Jackal:

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    First of all: a moar fuller review is in the works, but I since I was lucky enough to get a solid ride in on an SB-66 last night I wanted to answer/address some comments in this thread.

    As I said, I demo'd an SB-66 last night for a pretty substantial local ride, including ~1900' of climbing in the first 4 miles, with a RIPPING descent filled with rocks, turns, flow, and general goodness. Climb is a little steeper in spots, with plenty of small tech rock sections and some tight, difficult switchbacks. For those local to Golden, CO I rode up Chimney Gulch, descended Apex (Enchanted Forest to the gut). Great ride, right from my house. This is not last night's GPS track, but it gives you non-locals an idea of what I did (although I don't think I rode Enchanted Forest in this track): http://connect.garmin.com/activity/32328981

    Initial first ride impressions, in a nutshell: this bike is a lot of fun, and rides REALLY nice. I'm into it, a lot. Like I said, I'm going to write a full-on review of everything, so I won't get into it anymore than I liked the bike, a lot. Aaaannnnnnd I'll likely be getting one as soon as they're available.

    On to the comments I think I am qualified to address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy R View Post
    I know alot of people are comparing the 575 to the SB-66, but what did you think of the ASR 5 compared to the SB-66. I ride a ton of tight twisty tech singletrack and my ASR 5 is simply the best bike I have ever ridden for that.
    My current bike is a Yeti AS-R 5 as well, set up with a 140 Fox Float 32 with 15mm TA. I'm also a DH guy, so I think we potentially have similar tastes and expectations in our trail bikes. Or at least, similar experiences? Anyways, the SB-66 is noticeably longer, which might be a detriment in really tight twisty stuff. That said, there's a series of 6 steep tight switchbacks at the beginning of the Chimney Gulch climb, and on any given day I make an average of 4 of them on my AS-R 5. Last night was no different on the SB-66, I missed the first, made the next 4, missed the last. I DO NOT feel the bike was the issue, I feel it was more my fitness level right now, since I haven't been pedaling as much as I have been riding my DH bike. What I'm saying is, although the bike is markedly longer, I didn't feel that hindered me in these tight switchers compared to my 5... it's the best I can give you for the "tight" stuff cuz Colorado tends to be a bit more wide open flow.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    ...minus maybe a little rocket forward power
    My 5 definitely has a "rocket" sort of feel to the pedals, you push 'em and the bike wants to Gee-Oh. The SB-66 doesn't quite have that feel, but it also doesn't feel as plush and squishy as my '08 575 did, either, which could get a bit sluggish on smooth climbs. The best way I can describe the feel of the rear when climbing is as you put torque on the chain (i.e. pedal) it wants to "pull the rear axle up and in" to a sweet spot, where I don't discern any pedaling feedback, but still kept plenty of traction on rockier/techy stuff. I haven't ridden many "mini-link" or virtual pivot style bikes, and the ones I have ridden have been DH bikes, but the feeling is similar. To qualify, virtual pivot style to me is VPP, Maestro, DW Link, and stuff like that. You know, stuff that has a "virtual pivot" although I guess people are calling these bikes "mini-link" bikes now?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark G View Post
    Any idea on the rear tyre tyre clearance, all the pictures I've seen the bike have either Nobby Nics or Racing Ralfs fitted, they look like 2.25" as well and they are not very big. That's always been a problem on my 575.
    The bike I rode had 2.4 Nobby Nics, and it looked like there was room for a bit more. In my experience, all Schwalbe tires are pretty darn BIG for their listed size: like a 2.25 Nobby Nic is nearly as wide as a larger sized Maxxis. At any rate, I didn't like that I could not put a 2.4 Schwalbe on my '08 575, and the SB-66 had one on there with room to spare. Tire clearance = not an issue.
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    Full Trucker, how did the SB-66 handle square edges? My
    575 can hang on a square edge if I don't keep my momentum
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    Great looking bike.
    I like the geo specs/angles on paper...

    Seriously considering switching from a large 09 Giant Reign X to a XL SB 66. Would that be a wise move? I love going down more than anything and hitting jumps( nothing to huge, im not good enough ). where i live i have to ride up to go down though. I am 6'6" and my reign x is just not big enough I have it setup all weird so that my knees don't hit the bars..etc..

    I would be putting a fox 36 160mm, and a 2x10 with bashguard setup and dhx coil rear
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kuhl View Post
    Full Trucker, how did the SB-66 handle square edges? My
    575 can hang on a square edge if I don't keep my momentum
    up.

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    Really, really well I felt. Apex is full of repetitive, stuttery, pointy, nasty square edged hits (which you can hit going mach loony speed if you want, and I try to) and the rear suspension didn't feel like it was getting hung up on any of it.

    Also, on my '08 575 and my '10 AS-R 5 I've felt like I found the bottom of the travel a few times. Nothing harsh and not often at all, just felt like I was riding each of those bikes deep enough in the travel to find the end. Didn't really get that sensation with the SB-66, despite what the relatively flat LR might suggest to all the armchair engineers out there. And trust me, I did my best to squeeze every mm of squish out of that bike possible.

    Also also, if and/or when I grabbed a handful of "panic brake" in the middle of the rough stuff, the brake feedback to the suspension was pretty minimal compared to my previous two bikes. Thumbs up on that, since I am a chronic panic braker...
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    Can you ballpark the weight compared to your ASR5? 575?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicBith View Post
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    Can you ballpark the weight compared to your ASR5? 575?
    About the same as a 575, little heavier than a 5.




    EDIT:In full disclosure, the above statement was just based on frame weights from Yeti's website. I don't truly know (nor can I even guess) the comparative weights to my personal bikes... it's just not something I care too much about. FWIW: My 575 was built with DH bars, old-school Shimano DX downhill/bmx pedals (the all-metal red ones), a 36 TALAS 20mm fork, stouter wheels than what comes standard, and was a chunky gal at 30#. My 5, while not built as burly as my 575 was, still sports the heavier wheels, big ol' 745mm wide DH bars, and the same old-school DX pedals. Both my 5 and the SB-66 I rode have some sort of dropper seat post. SB-66 has 2.4 tires, my 5 has 2.25s, all 3 bikes had a mostly XT parts spec. Really tough to make the call, but I'd say my 575 was definitely the heaviest, where I think my current 5 and the SB-66 are fairly close to each other and a few lbs svelter-er than the 575.
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    Quote Originally Posted by playbike View Post
    anybody knows when it will be available?
    Competitive Cyclist claims sometime mid/late july.

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    Well this sucks. Yeti is selling chip sets to convert bikes, but it doesn't come with the axle and its difficult to get through Shimano dealers. Guess I'll just order it and play the waiting game.

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    I ordered one, XL in black. Going all out. 160mm fork, coil rear. lots of bling.

    Selling my current I guess I wont be riding until august at the earliest. may have to bring my 16 year old killer v cannondale out of retirement for a month lol while I wait.

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    Anyone know if you could special order a raw aluminum with clear coat? If not, I may have my lime sandblasted(depending on how well I like the lime) and have it clearcoated over the raw. I absolutely love that look on this frame with that black switch link would be sick!!

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    Anyone already get the bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by emeterio View Post
    Anyone already get the bike?
    Not yet. If all goes well with shipping, we'll have them in house at the end of this week.

    I'll do my best to keep you all updated, but as you can imagine, we're crazy busy over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Not yet. If all goes well with shipping, we'll have them in house at the end of this week.

    I'll do my best to keep you all updated, but as you can imagine, we're crazy busy over here.

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    Can you also clarify what they come with? Chainguide mounting tabs? 142 chips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joltz View Post
    Who is the rider in this vid? He's puttin in work on that SB-66!
    Shaun O'Connor I think.

    And John P. I'm also interested in what ISCG tabs the frame comes with. No one seems to know. I need the 05

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Not yet. If all goes well with shipping, we'll have them in house at the end of this week.

    I'll do my best to keep you all updated, but as you can imagine, we're crazy busy over here.

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    I'm definitely dissapointed to see my Jenson order of a Black XL frame get pushed again from July 13 to July 29. Hopefully we'll see these before the riding season is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bog View Post
    I'm definitely dissapointed to see my Jenson order of a Black XL frame get pushed again from July 13 to July 29. Hopefully we'll see these before the riding season is over.
    *Edit*

    I stand corrected on the delivery dates.

    carry on.....
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    Looks like Jenson pushed their ship dates back again.

    Oh yeti just posted on twitter frames are in. http://twitter.com/#!/YetiCycles/

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    It gives me hope to see the frames at Yeti! Hopefully they have the shocks ready to go.

    @KTMDiertFace, my ship date still says July 29 for my XL black frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bog View Post
    It gives me hope to see the frames at Yeti! Hopefully they have the shocks ready to go.

    @KTMDiertFace, my ship date still says July 29 for my XL black frame.
    Cool I did not order from there. I just noticed that the XL Black says Ships in 4-5 weeks now.

    I also ordered a XL Black but I had a local shop order for me. I wasn't expecting it till first week of august anyway.

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    Guys-

    We're running ragged over here, but here's some quick info:
    We've got a little over 160 of these in stock, and we've got orders for over 850. We're doing our best to be fair about allocation, basically shipping on a first come/first served basis, based on when shops and distributors put these on order.

    Please keep in mind that these 160 frames are for all of our global sales, not just the US. It's your classic incredibly high demand and relatively low supply scenario.

    And we're working our asses off to get more built and shipped quickly.

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    Thanks for the update.

    Sounds like your going to be quite busy for awhile haha

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    Appreciate the heads up and the pics on twitter. A couple of quick questions:

    1. Looks like the rocker link is not blue but black (which I like), is this case for all frames?
    2. Can you tell us that the rear axle is included with the frame? Please say yes! It looks to be the case in the one pic.

    Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere. Can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Guys-

    We've got a little over 160 of these in stock, and we've got orders for over 850.

    It's your classic incredibly high demand and relatively low supply scenario.


    FYI,
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    Any idea when supply will catch up? Weeks, months, a year?

    I may explore other avenues if my ship to date keeps moving back.

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    Just to be selfish, as long as there's a black XL in there for me all will be well! I'll provide a full build and ride report for all of the other riders waiting impatiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    Any idea when supply will catch up? Weeks, months, a year?

    I may explore other avenues if my ship to date keeps moving back.

    Thanks John.
    That depends on how many more orders we get in and whether we have any production or shipping delays. Right now, we're scheduled to be caught up in September, but if your shop got your order in towards the first half of June, most of those should ship by the end of August.

    I don't expect to have actual surplus stock available for "at once" orders until late this year or early 2012. You guys are just ordering these things faster than we can make them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddleRags View Post
    Appreciate the heads up and the pics on twitter. A couple of quick questions:

    1. Looks like the rocker link is not blue but black (which I like), is this case for all frames?
    2. Can you tell us that the rear axle is included with the frame? Please say yes! It looks to be the case in the one pic.

    Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere. Can't wait!
    1. Yes, the rocker link is black on all production frames; the eccentric is turquoise.
    2. As with all of our bikes, the 12mm axle and dropouts come with all complete builds that have a Race XT, Race X9/X0, or Pro XTR kits. For frame orders and Enduro builds, they include QR dropouts.

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    Thanks for all the updates and quick responses John P.

    OOPS! I should have put my old bike up for sale way more have nothing to ride for awhile my old bike sold in 2 days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penny View Post
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    I sent a note to John got this info on the ISCG mount.

    Said it was for cost reasons, the other mounts should be avail soon he said.

    The frame comes initially with a blank that fits up with a normal BB or
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMDirtFace View Post
    I ordered one, XL in black. Going all out. 160mm fork, coil rear. lots of bling.

    Selling my current I guess I wont be riding until august at the earliest. may have to bring my 16 year old killer v cannondale out of retirement for a month lol while I wait.
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    Yea Nick ordered the frame from Sunnyside.

    Still no idea when I get it. Its been 8 weeks now since I ordered

    Wheels just showed up today. Only thing missing is the frame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NastyNick View Post
    I havn't ordered one yet.... but i'm thinking about it.....
    I should be able to let you check mine out and give a review *very* soon.

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    I dont like the fork options- or lack of- a 32 doesn't belong on a 5.5 or 6 inch bike- I ran one on my 2011 blur and hated it- not stiff at all. The bb is a bit low for co- but it is manageable. The frame does not look as beefy as I would like- however it's a cool bike- maybe in a few years

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxen View Post
    I dont like the fork options- or lack of- a 32 doesn't belong on a 5.5 or 6 inch bike- I ran one on my 2011 blur and hated it- not stiff at all. The bb is a bit low for co- but it is manageable. The frame does not look as beefy as I would like- however it's a cool bike- maybe in a few years
    I disagree...you know, you can buy just the frame and put a 36 on it.

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    I do not know anything about bikes. I just like the way it looks HAHAHA. JK. Not really... Better than my 2007 HARO hardtail and that is all I know.

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    I'm with you saxen. Sure you can go the frame route and pick your fork (what I'm doing) but the price is the stinger. The enduro build is a good deal at $3500 but you'd be hard pressed to build out a frame near that price piecing it out with a 160mm fork. If you go with the enduro build and try to swap out the fork, then remeber it affects the wheelset too. Not fun trying to sell those parts or trying to get a shop to make it a worthwhile trade for both sides. Whatever Yeti's reasons (not be too similar to the upcoming replacement of the 7?), it just would have been nicer to have more options. Also, why not give each new owner the option to chose the rear axle type and bb shell piece too? My blank bb shell and qr dropouts (standard on a frame only) will be collecting dust.

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    Saxen - I think the frame is plenty stout, especially in it's class. Both triangles are solid. There are plenty of demo opportunities here in CO so go try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxen View Post
    I dont like the fork options- or lack of- a 32 doesn't belong on a 5.5 or 6 inch bike- I ran one on my 2011 blur and hated it- not stiff at all. The bb is a bit low for co- but it is manageable. The frame does not look as beefy as I would like- however it's a cool bike- maybe in a few years
    Why complain svikt fork options? If you are going for a bike from Yeti, you should build you own, not go for a build kit pre defined by other people in my opinion. I will go for a 160mm BOS Deville on my build with hand picked components from my old, broken 575.

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    There are many reasons to not be happy about the fork optios- price being the first- my latest build is a mojo hd that I built piece by piece- love the parts wasn't as happy with the price at the end- was it worth it? Sure- but paying an extra few grand the benefits were minor- my next bike I will Prob just buy complete- but if we are talking a new fork and new wheels because of thhe axles - we Are talking about 1500-2000 easy- that's a lot to toss on a née bike for a better fork- I just wish yeti made it factory-
    In regards to not needing a 36 or sim- I use to agree- dint see the point on my 5 inch bike- after using a 160mm 32 and changing it out for a lyrik there was no going back- being 200lbs and in rocky Colorado the benefits are just awesome.

    The bike in person to me did not look like like a am bike- maybe it was the fork and tires on the one I saw- it looked more xc to me-

    I'm not bashing the bike- I really do like it a lot and hope to soon demo it- there are just a few things I don't like-

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    Yea I wish yeti had coil shock and 36 build options. Maybe its just a production thing? they would spread their selves even thinner right now if they had to build more options?

    I went custom route and it was spensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMDirtFace View Post
    Cool I did not order from there. I just noticed that the XL Black says Ships in 4-5 weeks now.

    I also ordered a XL Black but I had a local shop order for me. I wasn't expecting it till first week of august anyway.
    so you were told first week in August huh? Me too, still have no bike! Cant get an answer from Yeti either as to when they'll be in. This is getting old!

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    im going nuts. I ordered mine back in July and was told that it would be in no later than first week in August...Still no bike, my lbs has called Yeti several times as when to bike is to show up and he cant get a definite answer either from them. I dont mind waiting a little bit but geez dont have much time left in the season. Anyone heard anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiek118 View Post
    im going nuts. I ordered mine back in July and was told that it would be in no later than first week in August...Still no bike, my lbs has called Yeti several times as when to bike is to show up and he cant get a definite answer either from them. I dont mind waiting a little bit but geez dont have much time left in the season. Anyone heard anything?
    Yep, same issue here. That's the legendary Yeti customer service... The rumor is they've had production problems and fallen further behind. Yeti recently took 48 hours to tell my LBS if they have a 575 frame in stock, so not much surprise they are struggling with the SB-66.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madisonian View Post
    Yep, same issue here. That's the legendary Yeti customer service... The rumor is they've had production problems and fallen further behind. Yeti recently took 48 hours to tell my LBS if they have a 575 frame in stock, so not much surprise they are struggling with the SB-66.
    Guys,

    I am in agreement with ya on the frustration. I ordered mine June 5th and it will finally be here Wednesday. The shop I ordered from finally got through to Yeti and they filled my order. From what I have been told the reception of the SB66 has been so positive that orders have exceeded their initial projections and yes they are behind because their precomittment to some of their elite online retaliers and trying to fill frame only or kit orders that came in through LBS's in the order they came in. So, here is what I have to tell you.

    I got a chance to ride my friends that came in a week ahead of me and it just confirmed my decision to wait it out and not cancel. My time was short, but from that time on the bike may be the best bike I've ever ridden. It's got the low center feeling that makes cornering intuitive, the slacker angle for confidence on downhill, the wheelbase for stability, stiffness for days, and looks like a million bucks too. This coming Wednesday is gonna be like Christmas. I'll post pics as the bike gets here and the build progresses! Wait it out!!

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    Guys-

    Sorry to see so much negativity on here regarding the delays. We are working our tails off to get these delivered (which explains why I spent both days this weekend here at the office), and the only rumor that's true about production is that demand has FAR exceeded our wildest dreams on this bike. I can't get into exact numbers, but we've booked roughly 10x as many as we thought we would through this point in the year. Also, let's not forget that we're not just selling to the US. We've got thousands of customers worldwide that want an SB RIGHT NOW as well. For a company of 20 people, that's a tall order.

    The main reason it's so difficult to give exact delivery dates is because our quality control standards are very high. So, let's say our factory plans to produce 500 frames in a month. There are litteraly hundreds of steps to machining, welding, aligning, painting, stickering, and assembling these frames. If one step goes wrong out of those hundreds, often times it will result in a Q/C failure at the end of the line, meaning one less frame gets delivered. You can imagine how this ultimately affects meeting our monthly projections.

    Again, we're working night and day (and weekends) to get these frames out to you. We appreciate your business immensely, and please trust us when we say that no one is more stressed than us that people are waiting for these bikes to arrive.

    Thanks for your understanding . . . I'm off to Eurobike and Interbike for the next couple of weeks. Keep your eyes open for 3 brand new bikes we'll be showing off.

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    Thank you John, I appreciate you taking a moment out of your busy day to get a status update out. Something other makers for some reason fail to do. Have fun at the shows! Lookin forward to perving on the new bikes as well. Keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    P.S. As a rule of thumb, never, ever . . . ever sell your current bike before your new one arrives. Never ever. Ever. Like I said, despite tons of hard work and the best intentions in the world, there are almost always unforeseen delays.
    I know that feeling. Unfortunately I broke mine before I had to order a new one. Bummer. but if it is good, it is worth the waiting!

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    I finally got my Enduro build today!



    I took it for a quick 12 mile loop around my local trail. This trail doesn't push the suspension too hard, but it really demonstrates the excellent small bump sensitivity of the rear, while exhibiting almost no power robbing pedal bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Guys-

    Sorry to see so much negativity on here regarding the delays. We are working our tails off to get these delivered (which explains why I spent both days this weekend here at the office), and the only rumor that's true about production is that demand has FAR exceeded our wildest dreams on this bike. I can't get into exact numbers, but we've booked roughly 10x as many as we thought we would through this point in the year. Also, let's not forget that we're not just selling to the US. We've got thousands of customers worldwide that want an SB RIGHT NOW as well. For a company of 20 people, that's a tall order.

    The main reason it's so difficult to give exact delivery dates is because our quality control standards are very high. So, let's say our factory plans to produce 500 frames in a month. There are litteraly hundreds of steps to machining, welding, aligning, painting, stickering, and assembling these frames. If one step goes wrong out of those hundreds, often times it will result in a Q/C failure at the end of the line, meaning one less frame gets delivered. You can imagine how this ultimately affects meeting our monthly projections.

    Again, we're working night and day (and weekends) to get these frames out to you. We appreciate your business immensely, and please trust us when we say that no one is more stressed than us that people are waiting for these bikes to arrive.

    Thanks for your understanding . . . I'm off to Eurobike and Interbike for the next couple of weeks. Keep your eyes open for 3 brand new bikes we'll be showing off.

    --JP
    P.S. As a rule of thumb, never, ever . . . ever sell your current bike before your new one arrives. Never ever. Ever. Like I said, despite tons of hard work and the best intentions in the world, there are almost always unforeseen delays.
    I have to say I meant no ill intentions towards Yeti. You have been more than helpful answerig emails about SB questions. I think my frustration was probably more being so anxious to get this thing since everyone's reviews come back so amazing and the not knowing when it would arrive. Thanks a ton for popping in here with all that's going on and acknowledging what actually is going on so we can all extend a little more grace to you guys.

    It's a good problem to have to be in this position of such demand. I'm just glad to be getting one this week!! So pumped. Again, thanks John for chiming in and giving us the scoop. Sheds light for sure!!

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    Yea the wait sucked... and the dates were weird. I got mine a few days ago. Its worth the wait!

    Unless your name is NercracXxx. ( how did that go for you did you find a moron to buy it when they could buy one from hucknroll fully decked in xtr for less? )

    Anyway I cant stop riding it the wait sucked and yea I shouldn't have sold my other bike first but I didnt think my bike would sell in 2 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Guys-
    Thanks for your understanding . . . I'm off to Eurobike and Interbike for the next couple of weeks. Keep your eyes open for 3 brand new bikes we'll be showing off.
    Great News ... I couldn't wait ... I wish sell my uzzi for new YETI ...!!!!

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    I couldn't see Yeti on EuroBike Index of Exhibitors ... could you confirm it ?

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    Thanks John -

    Rather have em right than fast. You guys gonna bring some SB's to Outerbike in Moab?

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    So what's the consensus on the 3 new ones here?

    1) Carbon SB-66
    2) Alloy SB-95
    3) New DH bike? SB-65? SB-67?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemeat View Post
    So what's the consensus on the 3 new ones here?
    SB-67?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Guys-

    Sorry to see so much negativity on here regarding the delays. We are working our tails off to get these delivered (which explains why I spent both days this weekend here at the office), and the only rumor that's true about production is that demand has FAR exceeded our wildest dreams on this bike. I can't get into exact numbers, but we've booked roughly 10x as many as we thought we would through this point in the year. Also, let's not forget that we're not just selling to the US. We've got thousands of customers worldwide that want an SB RIGHT NOW as well. For a company of 20 people, that's a tall order.

    The main reason it's so difficult to give exact delivery dates is because our quality control standards are very high. So, let's say our factory plans to produce 500 frames in a month. There are litteraly hundreds of steps to machining, welding, aligning, painting, stickering, and assembling these frames. If one step goes wrong out of those hundreds, often times it will result in a Q/C failure at the end of the line, meaning one less frame gets delivered. You can imagine how this ultimately affects meeting our monthly projections.

    Again, we're working night and day (and weekends) to get these frames out to you. We appreciate your business immensely, and please trust us when we say that no one is more stressed than us that people are waiting for these bikes to arrive.

    Thanks for your understanding . . . I'm off to Eurobike and Interbike for the next couple of weeks. Keep your eyes open for 3 brand new bikes we'll be showing off.

    --JP
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    I don't see Yeti on the Interbike exhibitor list. No-show this year?
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    For Eurobike, we'll be in our German Distributor's booth (IXS/Intercycle). The booth number is B8/3, which is in the courtyard near the outdoor track.

    For Interbike, we're taking a MASSIVE fleet of demo bikes to the Dirt Demo. We're not doing the indoor show, but we'll have a suite upstairs from it in the Venetian. If you're coming to the show and you want an invitation to the suite, Email me and I'll get you on the list.

    RE: 2012 bikes, I made a quick post in another thread about it, but we'll be showing an SB95, an SB66-Carbon, and a new DH bike at Eurobike and Interbike. Keep your eyes peeled for photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    RE: 2012 bikes, I made a quick post in another thread about it, but we'll be showing an SB95, an SB66-Carbon, and a new DH bike at Eurobike and Interbike. Keep your eyes peeled for photos.
    Hi John,

    Please tell me that you also show a new version of 7" ... or 8" ... suitable for 180mm fork

    PS.
    I want to change my uzzi for yeti ....

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    :-). Good question

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    Just had a call saying my SB-66, ordered back in August and promised for 'End of September' (and still confirmed as such last week) is now not happening til at least November. Argh guys, this really sucks!

    Apparently even in November, the new UK distributor doesn't actually know what frames they'll get in their first delivery so I can't even be sure I'll get on that first drop. Not impressed, and now I have to decide to cut my losses and get something else, or wait what could be into 2012. I have to admit, faced with that kind of poor service, "something else" is scoring some points right now - hoping it calms down when this sinks in.

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    I will say, I had to wait for mine. It was like 2 months late. But im glad I did. Friggn awesome bike! Some things are worth the wait. I dont think you will be dissapointed.

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    I dunno man, it's already two months late by my reckoning and now I gotta wait at least another one and a half, but probably more (and let me guess, xmas vacation = next delivery in 2012)? It's a nice frame, not a one-of-a-kind prototype welded from thrice-woven unobtainium on the inner thigh of a dusky maiden. Deeply unhappy with this still at the moment. I hope in a few weeks/months/years I'm posting in here about how glad I was to wait on all the broken promises. I feel like I might be just as happy posting on 'Brand X's forum about the bike I said I wanted that I was able to get within a week or two though. It's impossible to even get a test ride of the thing here so I wouldn't even know if I was missing anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milko9000 View Post
    I dunno man, it's already two months late by my reckoning and now I gotta wait at least another one and a half, but probably more (and let me guess, xmas vacation = next delivery in 2012)? It's a nice frame, not a one-of-a-kind prototype welded from thrice-woven unobtainium on the inner thigh of a dusky maiden. Deeply unhappy with this still at the moment. I hope in a few weeks/months/years I'm posting in here about how glad I was to wait on all the broken promises. I feel like I might be just as happy posting on 'Brand X's forum about the bike I said I wanted that I was able to get within a week or two though. It's impossible to even get a test ride of the thing here so I wouldn't even know if I was missing anything.
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    WTF? Kid, get banned there was nothing wrong w/ his post u fanboy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KidRawkz View Post
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    Bit of context on milko9000's post.

    He's in the UK and, as I understand it, Yeti have just canned their previous UK distributor, allegedly related to the previous importer was not coming up with a fair system to distribute to retailers around the country. Certainly the demand for the SB-66 has caught everybody out.

    With the change in distributor, retailers are getting info on delivery dates from a new source and the hope is that the new delivery dates will be realistic and fair, even if they are longer. If anything, it is a matter of uncovering that previously promised delivery dates were unrealistic.

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