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    suspension setup. Floating over vs Smashing into

    This is probably my most sought after holy grail of bike setup. I've been biking for 10 years or so. I can probably count on my fingers the number of times I remember having a ride where all suspension was working perfectly. You know, every bump feels like your floating over it and you hear that thup-thup sound of the bike soaking up the terrian. Most of the time I fiddle with my setup over and over and over trying to get his feeling but I honestly don't know how I got there in the first place or got away from it. All my bikes have been primarily 5.5-6.5 travel machines of similar builds and have at some point managed to get this feeling at one time or another so I know that it's not a lack of travel per se.

    Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? You would think that after this long I would know what I like and how to get there but really I have no idea how to get there. Too fast, too slow, too firm, too soft, too obsessive?

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    Based on your comment "Most of the time I fiddle with my setup over and over and over trying to get his feeling but I honestly don't know how I got there in the first place or got away from it."

    That makes me think you are making adjustments without understanding what they do.
    Have you noticed that suspension setup guides almost always work in this order:
    - sag (get the right spring or air pressure)
    - rebound
    - LSC (or platform)
    - HSC

    Rather than thinking about the fork and shock as "suspension with a bunch of adjusters", if you keep the spring/rebound/compression separate in your mind, it can be a lot easier to set up correctly, change and get back to a setting (that's easy anyway if you record every setting before changing it).

    So when you talk about the bike "floating over the bumps", you need the springs just soft enough that it absorbs a bump, then rebound fast enough for the tire to drop off the bump and stay in contact with the ground. Without dealing with compression settings, just getting the spring/pressure and rebound into the right range get most bikes working pretty close to what you are searching for. It's not always easy to get everything dialled in perfectly, but when you are not adjusting blindly, it's not as hard as you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolatt
    This is probably my most sought after holy grail of bike setup. I've been biking for 10 years or so. I can probably count on my fingers the number of times I remember having a ride where all suspension was working perfectly. You know, every bump feels like your floating over it and you hear that thup-thup sound of the bike soaking up the terrian. Most of the time I fiddle with my setup over and over and over trying to get his feeling but I honestly don't know how I got there in the first place or got away from it. All my bikes have been primarily 5.5-6.5 travel machines of similar builds and have at some point managed to get this feeling at one time or another so I know that it's not a lack of travel per se.

    Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? You would think that after this long I would know what I like and how to get there but really I have no idea how to get there. Too fast, too slow, too firm, too soft, too obsessive?
    I found that tire pressure had a lot to do with those times that everything just felt perfect.

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    Yes I agree, that seems to be a big factor. I was hoping someone would confirm that for me.

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    Sounds like you like the suspension to track the ground, that only needs the slightly (softer) spring rate and fast rebound with little to no compression damping..... Just like what FSRXC said....

    So what's the post about? What kind of question are u asking about? Or are you just making a statement? heehee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta
    I found that tire pressure had a lot to do with those times that everything just felt perfect.
    Yes, tire pressures are key, not too low or high pressures for the conditions. And there are days I feel stronger and work the suspension more, to manual and hop and pump obstacles with faster and smoother rhythm.

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