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    Manitou Axel problems, brand new!!!

    Good Morning, this e-mail is looking for solve a problem with my
    manitou fork, model axel comp 80mm, serial number DK8714798.

    This fork was purchased at Cambria Bike Outfitter by credit card at
    August 1, 2005.

    Cambria Bike send it to a friend in florida and he give it to me in
    Barcelona, Venezuela last week.

    First time (sunday nov-13, 2005) got out with my GT bike and new Axel
    fork (previous was a RST Cappa fork) and this, without warning, starts
    to no blocking the damping system at just 10-12 miles from departure ,
    well we was far from city and a friend has Motul 5wt fork especific
    oil in his car, so i checked my fork and was bellow the 11.5-12.5 cm
    mark (double checked), i added to level and OK.

    OK until yerterday, sunday aug-20, 2005 only a week before first fail,
    no rides in monday to friday, yesterday the problem was that, on a
    very ligth climb, fork blocked, the oil seal pops his place, and the
    fork starts to loose oil from there, putting oil on my brake system!.
    I don´t understand why so many fails in just two rides. I bougth motul
    specific fork oil (5WT) dissasembled by your internet instructions,
    nothing found broke or loose inside, and added oil to it, checked by
    hand pressure with blocked fork and seal pops again, no ridding, only
    by compressing fork by my weigth.

    The problem is that i´m in venezuela , writed to answer in order to know if i can send the fork to answer n venezuela, waiting for e-mail

    thanks for any advice

    Alvaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtvenezuela
    Good Morning, this e-mail is looking for solve a problem with my
    manitou fork, model axel comp 80mm, serial number DK8714798.

    This fork was purchased at Cambria Bike Outfitter by credit card at
    August 1, 2005.

    Cambria Bike send it to a friend in florida and he give it to me in
    Barcelona, Venezuela last week.

    First time (sunday nov-13, 2005) got out with my GT bike and new Axel
    fork (previous was a RST Cappa fork) and this, without warning, starts
    to no blocking the damping system at just 10-12 miles from departure ,
    well we was far from city and a friend has Motul 5wt fork especific
    oil in his car, so i checked my fork and was bellow the 11.5-12.5 cm
    mark (double checked), i added to level and OK.

    OK until yerterday, sunday aug-20, 2005 only a week before first fail,
    no rides in monday to friday, yesterday the problem was that, on a
    very ligth climb, fork blocked, the oil seal pops his place, and the
    fork starts to loose oil from there, putting oil on my brake system!.
    I don´t understand why so many fails in just two rides. I bougth motul
    specific fork oil (5WT) dissasembled by your internet instructions,
    nothing found broke or loose inside, and added oil to it, checked by
    hand pressure with blocked fork and seal pops again, no ridding, only
    by compressing fork by my weigth.

    The problem is that i´m in venezuela , writed to answer in order to know if i can send the fork to answer n venezuela, waiting for e-mail

    thanks for any advice

    Alvaro
    Motul 5wt is the semi bath oil - the damper requires 5 wt fork oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtvenezuela
    Good Morning, this e-mail is looking for solve a problem with my
    manitou fork, model axel comp 80mm, serial number DK8714798.
    The problem is that i´m in venezuela , writed to answer in order to know if i can send the fork to answer n venezuela, waiting for e-mail

    thanks for any advice

    Alvaro
    As commented on the other thread you opened about it, you probably have a damaged o-ring or a damaged shaft. This is why you have oil in the lower casting.

    Adding more oil just sent more oil to the lower casting where it probably helped to pop the seals out as these fork's seals are not made to contain oil... so maybe the seal didn't popped out but just splashed oil out of the the fork and onto anything in its way.

    Does your Axel has some Microlube ports??? (On the lower castings, close to the seals, on the part facing the rear of the bike). If so, you must use manitou's M-Prep grease, not semibath oil. Semibath oil is not 5wt either, is somewhere close to Automatic Transmission Fluid which is far heavier.

    It should be an easy fix is nothing but the o-ring is broken.

    Maybe you can contact the Venezuelean Manitou representative. I doubt that Cambria would give you warranty and ifthey do, you'll have to bear the shipping costs which isn't cheap at all.

    Life learned lesson: Next you want to upgrade, make a research. You can get some Marzocchi forks for the price of the Axel and Manitou has a very bad quality nowadays. From Manitou, you can get a perfect beatiful fork (as it happened to me with an Axel and a SX) or a piece of junk just like it happened to you. It's not Cambria's fault but Manitou's. Marzocchis on the other hand, are totally reliable.

    Good luck!

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    Gracias amigo...

    tried contact manitou in venezuela and they no longer oin bussiness

    contacted manitou USA and they toll me send ther parts by mail to me. hope parts are all i need

    thanks for your reply

    Alvaro

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    Btw, The Black Part With O Ring ...

    Is Supposed That Is Inserted/screewed On Bottom Of Rigth Leg After Changing Oring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtvenezuela
    Is Supposed That Is Inserted/screewed On Bottom Of Rigth Leg After Changing Oring?
    First you insert that part (looks like a plastic hex nut with a round hole in the middle??) on the damper shaft and then you slide the damper piston into the leg. Then you screw the nut into place.

    You don't have to thank anything....

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    ok, thats good news...

    Thanks for sure, now feel fine to check order of parts, sure insetder the plastic hex nut with a round hole in the middle bellow level you indicate to me, i inserted it at the bottom of fork !!! bad mechanic here!!

    thanks again

    Alvaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtvenezuela
    Thanks for sure, now feel fine to check order of parts, sure insetder the plastic hex nut with a round hole in the middle bellow level you indicate to me, i inserted it at the bottom of fork !!! bad mechanic here!!

    thanks again

    Alvaro
    Nah,,, you're not bad at all... I know some people wouldn't touch their forks even if their lives depend on it.

    Just look at the picture I posted and read Manitou's instructions on the Service Instructions manual. You'll do fine.
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    OK tonigth is my fork nigth!!

    Warp friend, i´m just leaving work place in an hour aprox, check www.trime.com it´s my work place, please don´t miss to check my workplace web page so you can know wath our do!!!

    tomorrow morning gonna write again in order to tell you how fine was my mechanical session today

    my mail is

    [email protected]

    keep fine

    Alvaro

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    Manitou fork, problem solved...

    just assembled the fork by your instructions and now i´m happy with it!!!

    sure this works pretty good, thanks for your tips

    keep in touch

    Alvaro

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