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    Awesome stuff. Thanks rick. Did you find the later shimstack to be less damping?

    How did you like the negative air spring mod? Im probably going to have a few machined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92SE-R View Post
    Awesome stuff. Thanks rick. Did you find the later shimstack to be less damping?

    How did you like the negative air spring mod? Im probably going to have a few machined.
    The newer tune is notiably less harsh.

    No need to machine anything to increase the negative air volume. What length is your fork?

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    Mines a 150mm

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    Hmmm can i just not use the bottom flared piece altogether? Is the lower seal seat the same diameter as the flared piece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92SE-R View Post
    Mines a 150mm
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    So that flared piece the 10mm spacer is attached to is the bottom out bumper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92SE-R View Post
    So that flared piece the 10mm spacer is attached to is the bottom out bumper?
    No.

    The mods if not done correctly do have the potential to damage the fork.

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    I guess im not understanding what leaving transfer rod position does if you take out 10mm spacer. You are still allowing 160mm of travel and now have the possibility of rod coming out at full top out. Also, if you are talking about the aluminum piece in between the two seals being removed, then i can see how that increases negative air volume. But i havent really looked at how the top sealhead attaches to it. Got any pictures?

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    Thinking about this more, the only way to get more negative air volume is to machine a new topout bumper that seats the upper sealhead higher in the stanchion

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92SE-R View Post
    Thinking about this more, the only way to get more negative air volume is to machine a new topout bumper that seats the upper sealhead higher in the stanchion
    The topout bumper is not alloy and removing the 10mm travel limiter still has the fork set at 150mm travel unless the transfer shaft is moved.

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    You mean the black rubber topout bumper, got it. Umm i dont see how the transfer shaft affects travel at all. All that shaft is for equalizing positive and negative at the correct spot. You have to adjust it because it can crash if you put too many travel reducers in or remove too many and come out of the transfer port. From what i can see, the 10mm spacers are the only thing physically limiting travel.

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    Hey all, my 2015 36 Float RC2 fork is leaking air at the schrader assembly, when I use soapy water, it seems to be coming from where it threads in, figured its an easy fix and put a new assembly in (seal and all) and it still does the same thing?? Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator Z View Post
    Can “off the shelf” or “stock” 160mm 36’s be extended to 170mm using the 170/180mm air shaft (and maybe the 170 transfer shaft)?

    I know Fox’s site says “160 forks cannot be extended past 160mm of travel” And I understand that there are different air shafts but I’m wondering if there is any compatibility between the two. Does the 160 36 share the same uppers and lowers as the 170/180mm 36, meaning the only difference is the air shaft and transfer shaft assemblies?
    Any news on this topic?
    A friend of mine is selling his 26" 2015 TALAS 160 and i would like to drop in an 180mm Float Airspring.
    As far as i can tell, all lower castings are the same 2015 onward...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zangg View Post
    Any news on this topic?
    A friend of mine is selling his 26" 2015 TALAS 160 and i would like to drop in an 180mm Float Airspring.
    As far as i can tell, all lower castings are the same 2015 onward...
    You need the damper rebuilding with a new part.

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    You can't extend a 160mm because the stanchions aren't long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snozz View Post
    You can't extend a 160mm because the stanchions aren't long enough.
    Wrong. The chassis is exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Wrong. The chassis is exactly the same.
    There are nicer ways to say that

    Something like
    Actually the chassis are the same, what you have to change is........ Or although the chassis are the same you can't because........

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    There are nicer ways to say that

    Something like
    Actually the chassis are the same, what you have to change is........ Or although the chassis are the same you can't because........

    A little bit of pleasantries goes a long ways to improving dialogue in forums.
    He was stating something that was totally wrong so I corrected him.

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    I have a 160mm fox 36 and know for a fact it can't be extended past 160. The 170-180mm forks have longer lowers... And most likely uppers as well. This page from fox sure says it can't be done. But if you have some other info I'd love to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    He was stating something that was totally wrong so I corrected him.
    Do you have a source for your information? If you are going to be that bold you should link in some proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    Do you have a source for your information? If you are going to be that bold you should link in some proof.
    The Fox product documents and the fact I have seen a considerable amount of 36's through the workshop and a 160mm fork uses the same chassis as a 170mm one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murrdogg11 View Post
    Ya thanks for the info dick raper. very informative.
    I have a 160mm fox 36 and know for a fact it can't be extended past 160. The 170-180mm forks have longer lowers... And most likely uppers as well. This page from fox sure says it can't be done. But if you have some other info I'd love to hear it.
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    Wow way to go with the insults, just because you are totally wrong no need to go around shouting your mouth off.

    The air spring is shorter and the damper is shorter but they are only £30 parts max to replace. The lowers and CSU's are all identical. I'd post a link to the part numbers but I cannot be bothered dealing with someone who clearly knows far more....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Wow way to go with the insults, just because you are totally wrong no need to go around shouting your mouth off.

    The air spring is shorter and the damper is shorter but they are only £30 parts max to replace. The lowers and CSU's are all identical. I'd post a link to the part numbers but I cannot be bothered dealing with someone who clearly knows far more....
    Wow, now I'm confused guys. Is the only difference I need to worry about is the air spring and damper if I want to convert my 160mm Fox 36 29'er fork to , say 170mm or 180mm? That would be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    The Fox product documents and the fact I have seen a considerable amount of 36's through the workshop and a 160mm fork uses the same chassis as a 170mm one.
    Why didn't you say that in the first place then?

    It is the internet, knowbody knows if you are an expert or a Joey. If you are going to say something like "Wrong" then back your statement up with some proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blcman View Post
    Wow, now I'm confused guys. Is the only difference I need to worry about is the air spring and damper if I want to convert my 160mm Fox 36 29'er fork to , say 170mm or 180mm? That would be cool.
    Not with a 29er but with a 650b fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    Why didn't you say that in the first place then?

    It is the internet, knowbody knows if you are an expert or a Joey. If you are going to say something like "Wrong" then back your statement up with some proof.
    Why would he need to? Rick's posted TONS of quality informative posts in this thread and on mtbr, more than enough for anyone to realize he's not "Joey." If you haven't seen those that's unfortunate, but calling him out is quite a bit out of line IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    Why didn't you say that in the first place then?

    It is the internet, knowbody knows if you are an expert or a Joey. If you are going to say something like "Wrong" then back your statement up with some proof.
    All I can say is if you follow these forums for a while, then you would know who to believe or trust, and who you should call out! Just say'in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Not with a 29er but with a 650b fork.
    Thanks Rick! Thanks kind of what I thought. I could only wish thou!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Why would he need to? Rick's posted TONS of quality informative posts in this thread and on mtbr, more than enough for anyone to realize he's not "Joey." If you haven't seen those that's unfortunate, but calling him out is quite a bit out of line IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Why would he need to? Rick's posted TONS of quality informative posts in this thread and on mtbr, more than enough for anyone to realize he's not "Joey." If you haven't seen those that's unfortunate, but calling him out is quite a bit out of line IMHO.
    As you can see have been posting in the forums for years. I haven't run into to Rick before and don't know his back ground. However, from with just a little bit of research I can clearly see that he is an expert in this field. But just because you are expert shouldn't mean that you don't have to be civil in your responses.

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    160 needs to be beefed up...170 would be too much imo
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    My new bike came with a 2017 Fox 36 Performance and even without changing the recommended settings it feels really great. Also it is black!

    At last a black Fox 36!

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    Caused quite a stirr over here...
    Rick can you post the part numbers needed or any link to a technical drawing i can source these from nevertheless?
    I am dealing with Fox germany, which is just a bunch of s%ckers not answering any emails, being a dick on the phone when someone is looking for tech info and so on.... when i already have the part numbers i hope they are willing to sell these to me

    Edit:
    Found the drawings on the us website, but still find no alternative rebound shafts or wherever the difference is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zangg View Post
    Caused quite a stirr over here...
    Rick can you post the part numbers needed or any link to a technical drawing i can source these from nevertheless?
    I am dealing with Fox germany, which is just a bunch of s%ckers not answering any emails, being a dick on the phone when someone is looking for tech info and so on.... when i already have the part numbers i hope they are willing to sell these to me

    Edit:
    Found the drawings on the us website, but still find no alternative rebound shafts or wherever the difference is..
    You need this part for the damper:

    207-80-002 Cart, Mach, 015 36 170-180 NBO RC2 LW

    And then the new air spring.

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    Air spring is obvious and an new damper body then, thanks a lot!

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    Do you follow the Fox recommended rebound settings or are you running it a bit faster?

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    Could anyone with a 650b Fox 36 close by PM me, I need a few rough measurements from one.

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    Sent you a PM Rick.

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    Hi again. How many rebound clicks does the Fox 36 have? In the tuning guide the range goes from 0 to 9+ but in reality my Fox 37 2017 has 24 clicks!

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    Hi guys. Is there a specific order in which we should position the volume spacers? For example should the blue be on top of the oranges or the other way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpgalanis View Post
    Hi guys. Is there a specific order in which we should position the volume spacers? For example should the blue be on top of the oranges or the other way around?
    No just put them in however is easiest.

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    Rebound adjust on my fit 4 is completely locked up. Tried working some tri-flow in there after removing the rebound knob and got one more clockwise click, then locked up again. Anyone else experience this? Pulled the cartridge but there was no visible way to fix this without a full teardown.

    The fork didn't come with the nice rebound knob cap as ut was an OEM 36. Need to invest in one after this is fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epicxcrider123 View Post
    Rebound adjust on my fit 4 is completely locked up. Tried working some tri-flow in there after removing the rebound knob and got one more clockwise click, then locked up again. Anyone else experience this? Pulled the cartridge but there was no visible way to fix this without a full teardown.

    The fork didn't come with the nice rebound knob cap as ut was an OEM 36. Need to invest in one after this is fixed.
    Common problem on Fit 4 dampers. Send the fork back for warranty.

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    I want to rebuild or atleast change the fluid & o-rings on both the damper & air-spring. The fork is a 2015 Fox 36 RC2. Are all 3 of these clamps necessary or does a model exist that can do it all?

    803-00-830 Service Set: Tooling: 2014 RC2, Shaft Clamps- Damper
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    Following pages are for ref.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Common problem on Fit 4 dampers. Send the fork back for warranty.
    Thanks Rick!

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    Looking forward to seeing what changes have been made to the 36 for 2018, we should find out at or just before Sea Otter. I am sure we will see the dropping of the transfer shaft at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Looking forward to seeing what changes have been made to the 36 for 2018, we should find out at or just before Sea Otter. I am sure we will see the dropping of the transfer shaft at the very least.
    Drop the transfer shaft AND the air piston, and drop a titanium spring into it. Gain a few ounces and tons of consistent performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    Drop the transfer shaft AND the air piston, and drop a titanium spring into it. Gain a few ounces and tons of consistent performance.
    Na, I'll keep the light weight air and progressiveness.
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    Hey, I hope someone could help me with my problem.
    I was wondering if anybody has tried to convert a 2015 36 RC2 Float 170 27.5" to 29" 160 by switching the casting. I know that the csu of the 2018 models are the same but I couldn`t find any information, neither about the 2015 csu nor the cartridge and air assy.
    Of cause, the german distributor told me that it isn`t possible but that is their common answer to nearly everthing...
    Thanks in advance!

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    Hmmm... for what it's worth, I have a 160mm 27.5 CSU matched up with a 160mm 29er casting. I'm not sure if your 170mm tubes would be too long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless View Post
    Hey, I hope someone could help me with my problem.
    I was wondering if anybody has tried to convert a 2015 36 RC2 Float 170 27.5" to 29" 160 by switching the casting. I know that the csu of the 2018 models are the same but I couldn`t find any information, neither about the 2015 csu nor the cartridge and air assy.
    Of cause, the german distributor told me that it isn`t possible but that is their common answer to nearly everthing...
    Thanks in advance!
    It will be fine. You just need to add a 10mm spacer to the air spring for 160mm travel and rake will be reduced from 29er standard 51 to 650b standard 44.

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    I’m looking for an airshaft for my 36 to increase the travel to 170mm, part number 820-02-324, tried the UK disti who has no idea on when they’ll get some. Anyone else know where I can find one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    It will be fine. You just need to add a 10mm spacer to the air spring for 160mm travel and rake will be reduced from 29er standard 51 to 650b standard 44.
    Thank you very much!!!


    Will every casting work from 2015 up to now (100x15/20mm of cause) or are there significant differences between the years?

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    I've had my 160mm , 2017 36'ers ,converted to 180mm.Was done by Mojo, at around £90,if anyone is still interested...

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