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    2012 Scott Scale RC

    Build list stock, I'll let the sheet do the talking


    Bottle Cage(s): none yet 0
    Front Brake: Avid XX World Cup, w/bolts & 185 mm adaptor 198
    Rear Brake: Avid XX World Cup, w/bolts 192
    Front Rotor: Avid XX Centrelock 180 mm + centrelock ring 151
    Rear Rotor: Avid XX Centrelock 160 mm + centrelock ring 127
    Shifter Cables: Teflon Coated 22
    Shifter Housing: Jagwire L3 40
    Cassette: SRAM XG-1099, 12-36t 210
    Chain: SRAM PC-1071 244
    Crankset: SRAM X.X 746
    - Crank Arms: 175 mm 544
    - Big Chainring: 39t 68
    - Middle Chainring: 26t 24
    - Small Chainring none -
    - Bottom Bracket: SRAM PFBB92 94
    - Bolts: Aluminum 16
    Front Derailleur: SRAM X.X, 34.9mm clamp 118
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.X, long cage 188
    Fork: DT Swiss XMM 29er 100 mm 1638
    Frame: Scott Scale 29 Carbon, XL 1,026
    Grips: Scott Lock-On 120
    Handlebar: Ritchey WCS Carbon, 680mm 180
    Headset: Scott Top Cap (10), Spacers (10), Bearings (68) 88
    Pedals: Time ATAC 324
    Skewers: DT Swiss RWS 120
    Rear Shock: none 0
    Saddle: Ritchey WCS Streem 206
    Seat Post Clamp: Scott Bolt 16
    Seat Post: Ritchey WCS Carbon 218
    Shifters: SRAM X.X 164
    Stem: Ritchey WCS 4-Axis 108
    Front Tire: Schwalbe Rocket Ron EVO 2.25 562
    Rear Tire: Schwalbe Rocket Ron EVO 2.25 514
    Tubes: Standard 306
    Rim Strips: Standard 66
    Wheelset: DT Swiss 1850
    Wheel (front): DT Swiss 864
    - Rim: DT Swiss
    - Hub: DT Swiss
    - Spokes: DT Swiss Supercomp, straight pull, black
    - Nipples: Aluminum
    Wheel (rear): DT Swiss 986
    - Rim: DT Swiss
    - Hub: DT Swiss
    - Spokes: DT Swiss Supercomp, straight pull, black
    - Nipples: Aluminum
    Misc: Matchmaker Clamps + Bolts (48). Chainstay guard (28) 76
    Total (g): 9818
    Total (lb): 21.65

    Sorry for the crappy formatting, but I think you can figure it out.
    The fork it came with is not the one that they show on the DT Swiss website, it has an aluminum steerer tube. Also, the spoke were black on mine, not white like on Scott's website. This is something I'm happy about as my last bike had white spokes and they looked terrible after half a season.

    Without pedals mine came in at exactly 20.93 lbs, as claimed on Scott's website, and mine's an XL. It came with valve stems and tubeless tape, so can be converted quite easily.

    Planned changes/additions:
    - Stan's Crest rims or wheelset, not sure yet. These DT Swiss hubs are much nicer than the Stan's hubs.
    - ESI Chunky grips
    - 160 mm front rotor
    - Tubeless
    - Maxxis Ikon Tires
    - King Ti cage

    Pics to come when completely finished being built. It is mostly functional right now, but not 100%. The front brake came with close to no oil in it - doesn't work at all

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    'Official' weigh in.



    20.67 lbs

    This was done after converting to tubeless. The weights from my first post were taken on a kitchen scale, that is probably off by a little, hence the discrepancy, and those tubes were quite heavy.

    Tubeless conversion went well. No problem airing tires up, though I did go right for the compressor. Front tire seems to have lots of little pin holes, but after some riding/shaking around it seems to have sealed up.

    Also, when making sure the wheels were true I noticed the spokes were bladed, they look to be the DT Swiss Aero Comp model. Also, there are 28 spokes in the front wheel and 32 in the rear.

    Shouldn't be too hard to get sub 20lbs. Not bad for a XL 29er.
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    looks great! Nice job on weighting all the parts before putting the bike together!

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    DO NOT USE THE DT KIT INCLUDED FOR TUBELESS!!! My lbs installed it on my 2012 pro and the tires were flat the next day. Since then, they put the Stan's kit on and it is PERFECT!

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    Agreed, we never use the DT Swiss kit at the shop.

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    That's too bad, my only little problem is with the Schwalbe 'tubeless ready' tires - they have a ton of pin holes all over them and didn't seem to hold air too well for the first while, but after a ride they are holding air just fine.

    With the DT kit in, the bead actually fits very tight for me, quite confident in it, and it has held up to riding quite well so far.

    Though, I will be getting a wheelset from Stan's over the winter.

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    Rubber is very pourous, it happens to a lot of tires on the market. Riding is what seals them for good.

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    Yeah, what I was trying to say was these had more (and slightly larger - Stan's was quite literally squirting out) than normal. I have blown up hundreds of tubeless tires working at a shop past 4 years, including many Schwalbe's, just hadn't had any be as bad as this particular pair.

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    You should see the Continental Supersonic sidewall tires, took 2 weeks of riding to seal them. 1st day I aired them up, the sidewall turned white from all the stans.

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    Yeah been there, done that. I was talking relative to tubeless or 'tubeless ready' tires.

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    Supposedly the continental had UST stamped on the tire, I was like WTF.

    We had a customer come in at the shop yesterday complainging about the leaking of the sidewall, we told him that it's common but he insisted we were wrong :/

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    I don't have an image off hand, but I have a medium with Stan's Race golds and kcnc foam grips being the main change. Pedals are xpedo ti/ti. Total weight is 19.5lbs.

    Sub 20 is pretty easy.

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    Here's a photo.
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    Do you have more photo's ?

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    Maybe these are better. I was kind of misleading on the previous post. The build kit is actually from the 2011 model. So it has a fox fork instead of the dt-swiss.
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    Which is the weight of such ZTR Race Gold 29 wheelset?
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    very nice

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    Very Nice indeed ! Well done

    I just bought the Frame in Medium and building from the ground up...

    With a few tricks, I'm hoping to get sub 19"

    A few Ideas:

    - Lighning Cranks at 470g with BB included
    - Extralite Octaramp Gara's 42/28 Chanrings at 78g bringing it to 548g total !
    - 2012 SID XX 29 Worldcup fork at sub 1500g
    - KMC 10sp gold chain
    - Stan's wheels and tubless
    - XX shifters, Cassette
    - Formula R1 brakes at 190g + 170g = 360g for all but the rotors
    - KCNC razor 160mm rotors at 73g each

    tried a Becker Pop carbon saddle and I popped it on another bike, so saddle will be sub 150g (San Marco Aspide probably)

    Anywho, can't wait to finish her, rider her and race her !
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    Ended up at 19.16 lbs...



    Could get into the 17.9 lb range with lighter tires (Ignightor 2.1's on now), lighter seat/seatpost, lighter wheels (like the nice Stans Gold above or Carbon) but would need to throw way toooo much money at it....

    I think I'll just ride for a while !
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    You already wasted too much on a Scott. There's a reason why all the local bike shops stopped carrying them for 2012.
    I only use my brakes going Up hill.

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    Nice spec TBlazen. She rides like a dream, I've raced and ridden it hard all summer with great results.

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    Thanks North !! You have a really beauty there BTW

    I did my homework and the reviews from the industry and the riders were stellar so I had to pull the trigger.

    Rode her around last night a little bit and it feels great so far !

    I need to shorten the brake cables, clean up the tire fluid (I think theres a blob floating around in there), fix some minor drive train issues, do a training ride tomorrow and should be good to go for her first race Saturday.

    Thanks for your input and everyone else's too !
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    Nice build! I just got my Scale29 RC frame (L) last week and I'm still waiting on my wheels and fork to come in...hopefully today! I went with the Easton EC90 XC wheels and I'm fired up to try them out since I haven't ridden carbon wheel yet. Sucks that I'll probably have it built tomorrow and the rain just rolled in to town.

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    Nice build

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    Great looking build!

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    Quote Originally Posted by james_95 View Post
    Nice build! I just got my Scale29 RC frame (L) last week and I'm still waiting on my wheels and fork to come in...hopefully today! I went with the Easton EC90 XC wheels and I'm fired up to try them out since I haven't ridden carbon wheel yet. Sucks that I'll probably have it built tomorrow and the rain just rolled in to town.
    I'm looking forward to seeing your Scale 29 RC with those wheels. How much for those carbon wheels?
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    Scale 29RC 2012 frame weight

    Quote Originally Posted by rgkicksbutt View Post
    Build list stock, I'll let the sheet do the talking

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    Frame: Scott Scale 29 Carbon, XL 1,026
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    Mine arrived this evening. I opened the box and had only time to weigh.

    My frame is size M: 965

    The weight includes only the four bottle cage screws, as you can see from the picture below.
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    First ride today! 21 lbs for my XL without pedals, but with tubes...so it's probably about 21 lbs with pedals and tubeless. Fun bike.
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    is that a 2010 scale 35 or scale 29 in the back? the green one

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    2010 Scale 29.
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    RifeFaster, how does the Scott 29er compare to the Cannondale Flash 29er? I am looking for something w/ a little quicker steering than my Scott? Is the BB on the Flash way too low? thx.

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    Which Scott are you talking about? The 2010 Scott is slower than the Cannondale, and the Cannondale is slower than the 2012 Scott. But, that may have something to do with the 2012 Scott having a 100mm stem, and the others have a 120. I haven't ridden the new Scott enough yet.
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    Which is the right bottom bracket to mount on the Scale 29RC 2012? I'm going to install a SRAM XX crankset and I would like to know if I do need the standard SRAM GXP crankset.

    I think I need the GXP crankset with the SRAM bottom bracket integrated for shells 41x89,5 mm.
    SRAM says in its website that two models are available:

    Truvativ Pressfit GXP BB | SRAM

    83 grams for the ceramic variant, 94 grams for the standard one
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    Quote Originally Posted by getjohn View Post
    You already wasted too much on a Scott. There's a reason why all the local bike shops stopped carrying them for 2012.
    I wont agree with this, Im no MBTR connoisseur but my LBS is picking up the Scott line this year in full fashion. Now Im in for a new 29er this year, so far I've test ridden Trek's GF, Cobia & X-Caliber, Specialized, RH & Carve, and the Scott Scale 29, the Scott felt much tighter and crisper then the other bikes, I felt as though I had more control over the Scott then the others, and shortly after a few loops through the trails I felt 100% more confident on the Scott then I did on my own RH. Im not saying Scott is the best 29er built, but it certainly felt the best to me out of the bikes I rode. But Im still looking at Salsa's El Mariachi, but the Scott is a very nice bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideFaster View Post
    The 2010 Scott is slower than the Cannondale, and the Cannondale is slower than the 2012 Scott. But, that may have something to do with the 2012 Scott having a 100mm stem, and the others have a 120. I haven't ridden the new Scott enough yet.
    Can you please elaborate. On paper the Cannondale should have much faster steering that the 2012 scott (71 vs 69 % HA). I know paper doesn't always represent the real world well though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppower View Post
    Which is the right bottom bracket to mount on the Scale 29RC 2012? I'm going to install a SRAM XX crankset and I would like to know if I do need the standard SRAM GXP crankset.

    I think I need the GXP crankset with the SRAM bottom bracket integrated for shells 41x89,5 mm.
    SRAM says in its website that two models are available:

    Truvativ Pressfit GXP BB | SRAM

    83 grams for the ceramic variant, 94 grams for the standard one
    I'm not sure if you've already got it figured out but you need the GXP XX cranks, 156 Q factor, and the SRAM GXP MTB Press-Fit BB (do not us the supplied spacer)

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    Honestly I can't really say. I've only gotten to ride the Scott once, and I had the Cannondale for one ride and one race (I've sold it). The stems are different, the Scott is not set up tubeless yet, and the fork on the Scott rides very differently than the Lefty. I won't be able to ride it again for a few weeks.
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    RideFaster,

    Why did you get rid of the Cannondale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by james_95 View Post
    I'm not sure if you've already got it figured out but you need the GXP XX cranks, 156 Q factor, and the SRAM GXP MTB Press-Fit BB (do not us the supplied spacer)

    Tnx. You're right. Tomorrow I hope getting my bike ready to go.
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    At last my Scalona was ready to go! Here is it the final assembly:



    Some minor changes still need to be done. At now I installed an used SRAM XX rear derailleur (from Damiano Cunego father's bike), a SRAM X0 front derailleur, and standard Ritchey WCS 4-Axis stem. The final stem will be a Ritchey WCS C260 with -25 lowering, the only way to drop the front part in my case. At now current drop (stem-seatpost) is only 30 mm, but I should move at least to 55 mm. My current Scale 10 is set to -70 mm.

    Final weight is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppower View Post
    Tnx. You're right. Tomorrow I hope getting my bike ready to go.
    Correction, you DO use the PF BB spacer.

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    My build

    I finally finished my build. I am loving these Easton EC90 XC wheels!

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    Good job!

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    I finally finished my build. I am loving these Easton EC90 XC wheels!
    I'm drooling on those wheels. Great bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_95 View Post
    Correction, you DO use the PF BB spacer.
    I've installed a bottom bracket BB-PF92 from First Components. This BB seems to be low quality, but I got on the net another reseller where I bought the ceramic bearings PressFit BB-PF92 for SRAM GXP. It's expensive, but it should make the difference.
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    HOT! I'll bet that Fox feels awesome.

    AND you have the new XTR brakes. That is the perfect build!
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    Final weight is amazing.
    Don't just tease us PPower, spill the beans! What did it come in at with the niner fork (and gripshift?)??!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swan lee View Post
    Don't just tease us PPower, spill the beans! What did it come in at with the niner fork (and gripshift?)??!
    I got the bike on Thursday and I rode about 130 km (80 miles) on the weekend with about 2500 meters hill climbing (8000 ft) with temperature in the 2-10C range (35-50F). The tracks done were a wide range of difficulties: from bad tarmac and concrete with steep climbing to fast straight gravel tracks. Even some very rocky jumps and some twisty single tracks with solid mud. A lot of hill climbing in the woods, with rocks covered with tons of leaves. I tried almost everything I could test my new 29er.

    The Niner tapered fork is rigid, but I can tolerate enough: it's not so very different from an old SID 2006. Reduced motion of the front wheel when braking and when stepping on the rocks is somewhat good, because it reduces the risk of "stick-slip".

    I didn't lose so many meters on the fastest downhills, compared to my usual team mates. On rocky uphills the front wheel bounces a bit, with respect of an unlocked SID fork, but still acceptable. Augmented grip of 29er over standard is really a plus and that's what I appreciate most with the Scale 29er. I'm currently using new Schwalbe Racing Ralph 29x2.25 tubeless ready, with a front tyre pressure a bit higher than rear, which is a bit paradoxic, but I need to understand what's better for my racing purposes.

    Current gears ratio is ideal for me: I have never used the last ratio (26-36 and even 26-32), but I fear it's the "placebo" effect that makes me push so hard. The longest one (39-11) has been used wisely on some tarmac segments where we pushed hard packed at 45 kmh.

    Twisty shifters are from Sven's, the German guy. The rear shifter is the SRAM X0 modified from 9 to 10 speeds. Just perfect. I really hope it's reliable too, altough an upgrade could arrive as soon as SRAM releases the twisty shifters for XX.
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    Interesting write-up ppower. That's a lot of climbing in the cold this last weekend!
    I've an RC frame coming in January, and was thinking of a Niner fork - especially for the rest of the winter. Your bike must be coming in around 18lb (8.2kg) with that build?
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    Quote Originally Posted by swan lee View Post
    Interesting write-up ppower. That's a lot of climbing in the cold this last weekend!
    I've an RC frame coming in January, and was thinking of a Niner fork - especially for the rest of the winter. Your bike must be coming in around 18lb (8.2kg) with that build?
    Exact weight: 8.24 kg.

    Racing Ralph TR tyres were filled with 100 ml of green slime per wheel.

    Just fabulous and solid: all the power goes to the ground; none is wasted in the fork, as it were with a suspension fork, although locked. It seems to ride my Scott Addict!
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    Scott Scale RC- Good Deal?

    There's a 2012 Scott Scale RC on ebay for $4000 right now (as a new member, I can't link, but if you search for "Scott Scale RC" it's one of the few hits).

    Any input on the bike would be appreciated - I'm thinking of getting it.

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